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userantony1969
Posted: 13 February 2019 7:18 PM
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That request is a year before the press published the Scotland Yard/GLA estimate ... How often is the site updated ???


When the request goes in, even before it is answered it is posted. Try it.


So are you suggesting The Telegraph didn't put in a Freedom of Information request to Scotland Yard
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Posted: 13 February 2019 7:30 PM
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That request is a year before the press published the Scotland Yard/GLA estimate ... How often is the site updated ???


When the request goes in, even before it is answered it is posted. Try it.


So are you suggesting The Telegraph didn't put in a Freedom of Information request to Scotland Yard


Yes, as Barry has already pointed out https://tabloidcorrections.wordpress.com/2019/02/12/did-the-telegraph-make-up-statistics-on-the-peoples-vote-march-attendance/
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Posted: 13 February 2019 7:43 PM
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That request is a year before the press published the Scotland Yard/GLA estimate ... How often is the site updated ???


When the request goes in, even before it is answered it is posted. Try it.


So are you suggesting The Telegraph didn't put in a Freedom of Information request to Scotland Yard


Yes, as Barry has already pointed out https://tabloidcorrections.wordpress.com/2019/02/12/did-the-telegraph-make-up-statistics-on-the-peoples-vote-march-attendance/


Means nothing ... Im asking if your saying The Telegraph are lying about putting in a Freedom of Information request to Scotland Yard and you have replied "Yes" ... Nothing in that link suggests The Telegraph have lied about the request , you say they have so prove it
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Posted: 13 February 2019 7:48 PM
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That request is a year before the press published the Scotland Yard/GLA estimate ... How often is the site updated ???


When the request goes in, even before it is answered it is posted. Try it.


So are you suggesting The Telegraph didn't put in a Freedom of Information request to Scotland Yard


Yes, as Barry has already pointed out https://tabloidcorrections.wordpress.com/2019/02/12/did-the-telegraph-make-up-statistics-on-the-peoples-vote-march-attendance/


Means nothing ... Im asking if your saying The Telegraph are lying about putting in a Freedom of Information request to Scotland Yard and you have replied "Yes" ... Nothing in that link suggests The Telegraph have lied about the request , you say they have so prove it


"Nothing about the Telegraph article seemed too obviously suspicious. It said that the figure had been obtained following a Freedom of Information request to the Metropolitan Police Service. Scotland Yard was quoted confirming the figure, adding that “this is not a Metropolitan Police Service estimate as we have not recorded an estimated attendance figure for the march.”

But this blog has since received confirmation from the Mayor of London office that no such debrief document exists. According to Ian Lister, Information Governance Manager at the GLA: “No debrief document was produced by the GLA and I can confirm that we do not hold any debrief document.”

Which begs the question – where did the Sunday Telegraph draw its statistic from? Has there been some confusion in the information relayed to the paper by Scotland Yard, or has the paper resorted to simply making up the figures?"

That and the fact that on the Metropolitan Police FOI website there is no such request logged.
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Posted: 13 February 2019 7:54 PM
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Sweetheart would you like to put a charitable bet of say £100 on that I can show GLA said the crowd was 250.000 ??? ... You now are claiming 200.000 I see and not once have I said it says anything on GLA website ... Put up or shut up


No I still maintain it was over 700,000 you stated "700.000 ??? ... GLA put the figure much nearer to 250.000 if I remember correctly ... " So yes I'll accept your bet, my chosen charity is Hope not Hate. Provide the link where the Greater London Authority says 250,000.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1067870/brexit-news-peoples-vote-march-leave-EU-october-protest ... "under the Freedom of Information Act the GLA has included an estimated figure of 250.000 in a debriefed document" ... If what had been reported was wrong GLA would have had The Telegraph and Express up before IPSO ... Make your cheque out please and show its been sent if your a man of honour

LMFAO!! The Brexitpress, the Brexiteers Bible!! Hardly reliable or credible.

https://fullfact.org/news/did-670000-march-peoples-vote-brexit/

Come on little boy, pay up time.


You calling Scotland Yard not a reliable source ??? Wow , I know your anti-British but ruddy hell

Your source was the Express, not Scotland Yard.
userantony1969
Posted: 13 February 2019 7:56 PM
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antony1969 - 2019-02-13 7:04 PM


That request is a year before the press published the Scotland Yard/GLA estimate ... How often is the site updated ???


When the request goes in, even before it is answered it is posted. Try it.


So are you suggesting The Telegraph didn't put in a Freedom of Information request to Scotland Yard


Yes, as Barry has already pointed out https://tabloidcorrections.wordpress.com/2019/02/12/did-the-telegraph-make-up-statistics-on-the-peoples-vote-march-attendance/


Means nothing ... Im asking if your saying The Telegraph are lying about putting in a Freedom of Information request to Scotland Yard and you have replied "Yes" ... Nothing in that link suggests The Telegraph have lied about the request , you say they have so prove it


"Nothing about the Telegraph article seemed too obviously suspicious. It said that the figure had been obtained following a Freedom of Information request to the Metropolitan Police Service. Scotland Yard was quoted confirming the figure, adding that “this is not a Metropolitan Police Service estimate as we have not recorded an estimated attendance figure for the march.”

But this blog has since received confirmation from the Mayor of London office that no such debrief document exists. According to Ian Lister, Information Governance Manager at the GLA: “No debrief document was produced by the GLA and I can confirm that we do not hold any debrief document.”

Which begs the question – where did the Sunday Telegraph draw its statistic from? Has there been some confusion in the information relayed to the paper by Scotland Yard, or has the paper resorted to simply making up the figures?"

That and the fact that on the Metropolitan Police FOI website there is no such request logged.


Yes and then below your Hollwood hype it says The Met were contacted for comment but yet conveniently doesnt say what The Mets comment was ??? Show a denial by The Met that The Telegraph didn't ask for the info Ive previously said they did ... Jeez this could be a long one
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Posted: 13 February 2019 7:56 PM
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That request is a year before the press published the Scotland Yard/GLA estimate ... How often is the site updated ???


When the request goes in, even before it is answered it is posted. Try it.


So are you suggesting The Telegraph didn't put in a Freedom of Information request to Scotland Yard


Yes, as Barry has already pointed out https://tabloidcorrections.wordpress.com/2019/02/12/did-the-telegraph-make-up-statistics-on-the-peoples-vote-march-attendance/


Means nothing ... Im asking if your saying The Telegraph are lying about putting in a Freedom of Information request to Scotland Yard and you have replied "Yes" ... Nothing in that link suggests The Telegraph have lied about the request , you say they have so prove it

Quit wriggling and pay up motormouth.
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Posted: 13 February 2019 7:57 PM
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Sweetheart would you like to put a charitable bet of say £100 on that I can show GLA said the crowd was 250.000 ??? ... You now are claiming 200.000 I see and not once have I said it says anything on GLA website ... Put up or shut up


No I still maintain it was over 700,000 you stated "700.000 ??? ... GLA put the figure much nearer to 250.000 if I remember correctly ... " So yes I'll accept your bet, my chosen charity is Hope not Hate. Provide the link where the Greater London Authority says 250,000.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1067870/brexit-news-peoples-vote-march-leave-EU-october-protest ... "under the Freedom of Information Act the GLA has included an estimated figure of 250.000 in a debriefed document" ... If what had been reported was wrong GLA would have had The Telegraph and Express up before IPSO ... Make your cheque out please and show its been sent if your a man of honour

LMFAO!! The Brexitpress, the Brexiteers Bible!! Hardly reliable or credible.

https://fullfact.org/news/did-670000-march-peoples-vote-brexit/

Come on little boy, pay up time.


You calling Scotland Yard not a reliable source ??? Wow , I know your anti-British but ruddy hell

Your source was the Express, not Scotland Yard.


Go back to sleep princess ... The source of the info was Scotland Yard
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Posted: 13 February 2019 7:59 PM
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antony1969 - 2019-02-13 7:04 PM


That request is a year before the press published the Scotland Yard/GLA estimate ... How often is the site updated ???


When the request goes in, even before it is answered it is posted. Try it.


So are you suggesting The Telegraph didn't put in a Freedom of Information request to Scotland Yard


Yes, as Barry has already pointed out https://tabloidcorrections.wordpress.com/2019/02/12/did-the-telegraph-make-up-statistics-on-the-peoples-vote-march-attendance/


Means nothing ... Im asking if your saying The Telegraph are lying about putting in a Freedom of Information request to Scotland Yard and you have replied "Yes" ... Nothing in that link suggests The Telegraph have lied about the request , you say they have so prove it

Quit wriggling and pay up motormouth.


Unlike you I'm a man of honour and if Fart Part can prove 700.000 were at that remoaner gig then £100 goes to those chancer types
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Posted: 13 February 2019 8:15 PM
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Unlike you I'm a man of honour and if Fart Part can prove 700.000 were at that remoaner gig then £100 goes to those chancer types


I know your not one for accuracy so to refresh your memory the actual challenge YOU set:
"Sweetheart would you like to put a charitable bet of say £100 on that I can show GLA said the crowd was 250.000 ??? ... ... Put up or shut up"

You can't so please make the cheque out to Hope Not Hate. https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/
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Posted: 13 February 2019 8:50 PM
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nothing can change the fact that the 2016 referendum was FRAUDULENT and found to be so by the Electoral Commission


Naturally you can back that statement up? ...........

Because I cant find anything on the EC website that says that? ..........

I did find this though .........

Report on the regulation of campaigners at the EU referendum

We have found that that rules put in place specifically for the EU referendum worked well. We set out a number of recommendations for changes to be incorporated into the legislation that underpins UK-wide referendums.

Seems to me like your peddling FAKE NEWS? .........





https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44856992

you can read the full article...here is an extract

...."Brexit campaign group Vote Leave has been fined £61,000 and referred to the police after an Electoral Commission probe said it broke electoral law.

The watchdog said it exceeded its £7m spending limit by funnelling £675,315 through pro-Brexit youth group BeLeave.

The founder of BeLeave, Darren Grimes, has been fined £20,000 and referred to the police, along with Vote Leave official David Halsall.

Vote Leave said the "wholly inaccurate" report was politically motivated.

The Vote Leave campaign, which was fronted by Boris Johnson and Michael Gove, won the contest to be the official Leave campaign in the 2016 referendum on whether Britain should stay in the European Union.

Parliament Live: MPs debate post-Brexit trade plans
Leave.EU fined £70,000 over Brexit spending
Call for 'clarity' on referendum cash rules
Brexit: All you need to know

The result of the referendum was 51.9% for Leave and 48.1% for Remain. The UK is due to officially leave the European Union at 23:00 GMT on 29 March, 2019.


The referendum was not legally binding, merely "advisory," according to a Supreme Court judgement in December 2016, so it can't be ordered to be re-run by a court - any decision to have a fresh referendum would have to be made by the government and Parliament would have to pass a referendum act.



The Electoral Commission has referred Mr Grimes and Mr Halsall to the Metropolitan Police in relation to false declarations of campaign spending, and handed over files "in relation to whether any persons have committed related offences" that fall outside the watchdog's remit...."




So where has the Electoral commission stated the "referendum was fraudulent"? ...........





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Posted: 13 February 2019 8:53 PM
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nothing can change the fact that the 2016 referendum was FRAUDULENT and found to be so by the Electoral Commission


Naturally you can back that statement up? ...........

Come on Pelmet.....don't run off now after HH and FP responded. Don't you have any answers?


Perhaps you can help him find the statement from the Electoral Commission where they stated the referendum was fraudulent ...........

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Posted: 13 February 2019 9:39 PM
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nothing can change the fact that the 2016 referendum was FRAUDULENT and found to be so by the Electoral Commission


Naturally you can back that statement up? ...........

Come on Pelmet.....don't run off now after HH and FP responded. Don't you have any answers?


Perhaps you can help him find the statement from the Electoral Commission where they stated the referendum was fraudulent ...........

You know damn well Vote Leave and BeLeave broke electoral law and were fined over false declarations of campaign spending. That's fraud. The matter was also referred to police.
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Posted: 14 February 2019 9:10 AM
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nothing can change the fact that the 2016 referendum was FRAUDULENT and found to be so by the Electoral Commission


Naturally you can back that statement up? ...........

Come on Pelmet.....don't run off now after HH and FP responded. Don't you have any answers?


Perhaps you can help him find the statement from the Electoral Commission where they stated the referendum was fraudulent ...........

You know damn well Vote Leave and BeLeave broke electoral law and were fined over false declarations of campaign spending. That's fraud. The matter was also referred to police.


So where's the statement from the Electoral Commission stating "the referendum was fraudulent"? ........

There isn't one is there? ...........

So you and your bessy new mates have been caught spreading FAKE NEWS .........



Edited by pelmetman 2019-02-14 9:11 AM
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Posted: 14 February 2019 1:20 PM
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nothing can change the fact that the 2016 referendum was FRAUDULENT and found to be so by the Electoral Commission


Naturally you can back that statement up? ...........

Come on Pelmet.....don't run off now after HH and FP responded. Don't you have any answers?


Perhaps you can help him find the statement from the Electoral Commission where they stated the referendum was fraudulent ...........

You know damn well Vote Leave and BeLeave broke electoral law and were fined over false declarations of campaign spending. That's fraud. The matter was also referred to police.


So where's the statement from the Electoral Commission stating "the referendum was fraudulent"? ........

Idiot......the false declarations of its campaign spending was the fraud and everyone knows that...including Brexiteers, apart from the terminally dumb in denial.

There isn't one is there? ...........

Yes.

https://tinyurl.com/y6vrrnfq

So now have the decency to apologise after falsely accusing me of "spreading fake news".
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Posted: 14 February 2019 1:29 PM
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HarveyHeaven - 2019-02-13 8:51 AM
nothing can change the fact that the 2016 referendum was FRAUDULENT and found to be so by the Electoral Commission


Naturally you can back that statement up? ...........

Come on Pelmet.....don't run off now after HH and FP responded. Don't you have any answers?


Perhaps you can help him find the statement from the Electoral Commission where they stated the referendum was fraudulent ...........

You know damn well Vote Leave and BeLeave broke electoral law and were fined over false declarations of campaign spending. That's fraud. The matter was also referred to police.


So where's the statement from the Electoral Commission stating "the referendum was fraudulent"? ........

Idiot......the false declarations of its campaign spending was the fraud and everyone knows that...including Brexiteers, apart from the terminally dumb in denial.

There isn't one is there? ...........

Yes.

https://tinyurl.com/y6vrrnfq

So now have the decency to apologise after falsely accusing me of "spreading fake news".



A investigation by a Remoaner biased government quango doesn't count ...........

You and your fellow FAKE NEWS spreaders said .........and I repeat........

"The Electoral Commission said the referendum was fraudulent"............

Where is that statement? ...........



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Posted: 14 February 2019 10:17 PM
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nothing can change the fact that the 2016 referendum was FRAUDULENT and found to be so by the Electoral Commission


Naturally you can back that statement up? ...........

Come on Pelmet.....don't run off now after HH and FP responded. Don't you have any answers?


Perhaps you can help him find the statement from the Electoral Commission where they stated the referendum was fraudulent ...........

You know damn well Vote Leave and BeLeave broke electoral law and were fined over false declarations of campaign spending. That's fraud. The matter was also referred to police.


So where's the statement from the Electoral Commission stating "the referendum was fraudulent"? ........

Idiot......the false declarations of its campaign spending was the fraud and everyone knows that...including Brexiteers, apart from the terminally dumb in denial.

There isn't one is there? ...........

Yes.

https://tinyurl.com/y6vrrnfq

So now have the decency to apologise after falsely accusing me of "spreading fake news".


A investigation by a Remoaner biased government quango doesn't count ...........

Jeeez God, you need psychiatric help......seriously

You do understand making false declarations equates to fraud? Many examples i could use but until you grasp that basic fact it's pointless debating this any further as everything not favourable to your precious Brexit, you see as "Remoaner bias". You are on another planet.

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Posted: 15 February 2019 8:04 AM
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HarveyHeaven - 2019-02-13 8:51 AM
nothing can change the fact that the 2016 referendum was FRAUDULENT and found to be so by the Electoral Commission


Naturally you can back that statement up? ...........

Come on Pelmet.....don't run off now after HH and FP responded. Don't you have any answers?


Perhaps you can help him find the statement from the Electoral Commission where they stated the referendum was fraudulent ...........

You know damn well Vote Leave and BeLeave broke electoral law and were fined over false declarations of campaign spending. That's fraud. The matter was also referred to police.


So where's the statement from the Electoral Commission stating "the referendum was fraudulent"? ........

Idiot......the false declarations of its campaign spending was the fraud and everyone knows that...including Brexiteers, apart from the terminally dumb in denial.

There isn't one is there? ...........

Yes.

https://tinyurl.com/y6vrrnfq

So now have the decency to apologise after falsely accusing me of "spreading fake news".


A investigation by a Remoaner biased government quango doesn't count ...........

Jeeez God, you need psychiatric help......seriously

You do understand making false declarations equates to fraud? Many examples i could use but until you grasp that basic fact it's pointless debating this any further as everything not favourable to your precious Brexit, you see as "Remoaner bias". You are on another planet.



Neither you or your bessy new Remoaner mates can find a statement from the electoral commission stating that the "Referendum was Fraudulent"? .........

So that proves you and they were spreading FAKE NEWS .........

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Posted: 15 February 2019 4:16 PM
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nothing can change the fact that the 2016 referendum was FRAUDULENT and found to be so by the Electoral Commission


Naturally you can back that statement up? ...........

Come on Pelmet.....don't run off now after HH and FP responded. Don't you have any answers?


Perhaps you can help him find the statement from the Electoral Commission where they stated the referendum was fraudulent ...........

You know damn well Vote Leave and BeLeave broke electoral law and were fined over false declarations of campaign spending. That's fraud. The matter was also referred to police.


So where's the statement from the Electoral Commission stating "the referendum was fraudulent"? ........

Idiot......the false declarations of its campaign spending was the fraud and everyone knows that...including Brexiteers, apart from the terminally dumb in denial.

There isn't one is there? ...........

Yes.

https://tinyurl.com/y6vrrnfq

So now have the decency to apologise after falsely accusing me of "spreading fake news".


A investigation by a Remoaner biased government quango doesn't count ...........

Jeeez God, you need psychiatric help......seriously

You do understand making false declarations equates to fraud? Many examples i could use but until you grasp that basic fact it's pointless debating this any further as everything not favourable to your precious Brexit, you see as "Remoaner bias". You are on another planet.



Neither you or your bessy new Remoaner mates can find a statement from the electoral commission stating that the "Referendum was Fraudulent"? .........

So that proves you and they were spreading FAKE NEWS .........

Labouring pedantry in the hope of attempting to skew what the report clearly states won't work. False declarations for purpose of gain, be it financial or otherwise, is fraud....period.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fraud
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Posted: 15 February 2019 4:26 PM
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nothing can change the fact that the 2016 referendum was FRAUDULENT and found to be so by the Electoral Commission


Naturally you can back that statement up? ...........

Come on Pelmet.....don't run off now after HH and FP responded. Don't you have any answers?


Perhaps you can help him find the statement from the Electoral Commission where they stated the referendum was fraudulent ...........

You know damn well Vote Leave and BeLeave broke electoral law and were fined over false declarations of campaign spending. That's fraud. The matter was also referred to police.


So where's the statement from the Electoral Commission stating "the referendum was fraudulent"? ........

Idiot......the false declarations of its campaign spending was the fraud and everyone knows that...including Brexiteers, apart from the terminally dumb in denial.

There isn't one is there? ...........

Yes.

https://tinyurl.com/y6vrrnfq

So now have the decency to apologise after falsely accusing me of "spreading fake news".


A investigation by a Remoaner biased government quango doesn't count ...........

Jeeez God, you need psychiatric help......seriously

You do understand making false declarations equates to fraud? Many examples i could use but until you grasp that basic fact it's pointless debating this any further as everything not favourable to your precious Brexit, you see as "Remoaner bias". You are on another planet.



Neither you or your bessy new Remoaner mates can find a statement from the electoral commission stating that the "Referendum was Fraudulent"? .........

So that proves you and they were spreading FAKE NEWS .........

Labouring pedantry in the hope of attempting to skew what the report clearly states won't work. False declarations for purpose of gain, be it financial or otherwise, is fraud....period.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fraud


Well you could always prove me wrong by finding that statement from the Electoral Commission saying that the referendum was fraudulent? ...........

But you and your bessy new mates cant.......can you? .........

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pelmetman - 2019-02-15 4:26 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-02-15 4:16 PM

Labouring pedantry in the hope of attempting to skew what the report clearly states won't work. False declarations for purpose of gain, be it financial or otherwise, is fraud....period.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fraud


Well you could always prove me wrong by finding that statement from the Electoral Commission saying that the referendum was fraudulent? ...........

What did i tell you in the previous post? You're persistently labouring a point of silly pedantry desperately trying to skew 'false declarations' into something you see as honest, lawful and good.

It's fraud no matter how hard you try defending it and you should be ashamed.
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pelmetman - 2019-02-15 4:26 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-02-15 4:16 PM

Labouring pedantry in the hope of attempting to skew what the report clearly states won't work. False declarations for purpose of gain, be it financial or otherwise, is fraud....period.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fraud


Well you could always prove me wrong by finding that statement from the Electoral Commission saying that the referendum was fraudulent? ...........

What did i tell you in the previous post? You're persistently labouring a point of silly pedantry desperately trying to skew 'false declarations' into something you see as honest, lawful and good.

It's fraud no matter how hard you try defending it and you should be ashamed.


Well if its fraud why haven't your numerous rabid Remoaner lawyers been able to prove it? ..........

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Unlike you I'm a man of honour and if Fart Part can prove 700.000 were at that remoaner gig then £100 goes to those chancer types


I know your not one for accuracy so to refresh your memory the actual challenge YOU set:
"Sweetheart would you like to put a charitable bet of say £100 on that I can show GLA said the crowd was 250.000 ??? ... ... Put up or shut up"

You can't so please make the cheque out to Hope Not Hate. https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/


Anthhhhhhony, you are allegedly a "man of honour" but you've gone remarkably quiet on this thread once you were called out on this lie.

So when are you going to pay up? Or are you just another keyboard warrior that's going keep posting the racist bile from Russian and far right wing sites, that folds when presented with facts.
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Posted: 16 February 2019 2:54 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-02-15 4:56 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-02-15 4:48 PM

pelmetman - 2019-02-15 4:26 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-02-15 4:16 PM

Labouring pedantry in the hope of attempting to skew what the report clearly states won't work. False declarations for purpose of gain, be it financial or otherwise, is fraud....period.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fraud


Well you could always prove me wrong by finding that statement from the Electoral Commission saying that the referendum was fraudulent? ...........

What did i tell you in the previous post? You're persistently labouring a point of silly pedantry desperately trying to skew 'false declarations' into something you see as honest, lawful and good.

It's fraud no matter how hard you try defending it and you should be ashamed.


Well if its fraud why haven't your numerous rabid Remoaner lawyers been able to prove it? .......

Idiot....that's why they were fined by the EC.
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Fast Pat - 2019-02-16 9:26 AM

Fast Pat - 2019-02-13 8:15 PM

antony1969 - 2019-02-13 7:59 PM

Unlike you I'm a man of honour and if Fart Part can prove 700.000 were at that remoaner gig then £100 goes to those chancer types


I know your not one for accuracy so to refresh your memory the actual challenge YOU set:
"Sweetheart would you like to put a charitable bet of say £100 on that I can show GLA said the crowd was 250.000 ??? ... ... Put up or shut up"

You can't so please make the cheque out to Hope Not Hate. https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/


Anthhhhhhony, you are allegedly a "man of honour" but you've gone remarkably quiet on this thread once you were called out on this lie.

So when are you going to pay up? Or are you just another keyboard warrior that's going keep posting the racist bile from Russian and far right wing sites, that folds when presented with facts.

Well Antony.....sent that cheque yet?
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Posted: 16 February 2019 3:26 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-02-16 2:58 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-02-16 9:26 AM

Fast Pat - 2019-02-13 8:15 PM

antony1969 - 2019-02-13 7:59 PM

Unlike you I'm a man of honour and if Fart Part can prove 700.000 were at that remoaner gig then £100 goes to those chancer types


I know your not one for accuracy so to refresh your memory the actual challenge YOU set:
"Sweetheart would you like to put a charitable bet of say £100 on that I can show GLA said the crowd was 250.000 ??? ... ... Put up or shut up"

You can't so please make the cheque out to Hope Not Hate. https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/


Anthhhhhhony, you are allegedly a "man of honour" but you've gone remarkably quiet on this thread once you were called out on this lie.

So when are you going to pay up? Or are you just another keyboard warrior that's going keep posting the racist bile from Russian and far right wing sites, that folds when presented with facts.

Well Antony.....sent that cheque yet?


Your boyfriends been back on since I asked for the evidence ... Not a peep though ... Strange
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Posted: 16 February 2019 9:12 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-02-16 2:54 PM

pelmetman - 2019-02-15 4:56 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-02-15 4:48 PM

pelmetman - 2019-02-15 4:26 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-02-15 4:16 PM

Labouring pedantry in the hope of attempting to skew what the report clearly states won't work. False declarations for purpose of gain, be it financial or otherwise, is fraud....period.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fraud


Well you could always prove me wrong by finding that statement from the Electoral Commission saying that the referendum was fraudulent? ...........

What did i tell you in the previous post? You're persistently labouring a point of silly pedantry desperately trying to skew 'false declarations' into something you see as honest, lawful and good.

It's fraud no matter how hard you try defending it and you should be ashamed.


Well if its fraud why haven't your numerous rabid Remoaner lawyers been able to prove it? .......

Idiot....that's why they were fined by the EC.


For overspending ...........

Where's that statement from the EC saying the "referendum was fraudulent"? .........

It must be somewhere?.........or else you and your bessy new mates are going to look like proper idiots .......

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Posted: 16 February 2019 11:05 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-02-16 9:12 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-02-16 2:54 PM

Idiot....that's why they were fined by the EC.


For overspending ...........

Where's that statement from the EC saying the "referendum was fraudulent"? .........

It must be somewhere?.........or else you and your bessy new mates are going to look like proper idiots .......

Ok i know you're being purposely obtuse but your childish pedantry has worn thin. If you really cannot understand the meaning of false declarations then frankly it's time you went back to kindergarten for potty training. I can't believe you're 60.....maybe you're just a late developer.
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Posted: 17 February 2019 7:39 AM
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Bulletguy - 2019-02-16 11:05 PM

pelmetman - 2019-02-16 9:12 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-02-16 2:54 PM

Idiot....that's why they were fined by the EC.


For overspending ...........

Where's that statement from the EC saying the "referendum was fraudulent"? .........

It must be somewhere?.........or else you and your bessy new mates are going to look like proper idiots .......

Ok i know you're being purposely obtuse but your childish pedantry has worn thin. If you really cannot understand the meaning of false declarations then frankly it's time you went back to kindergarten for potty training. I can't believe you're 60.....maybe you're just a late developer.


Why don't you and your mates admit the Electoral Commission have NEVER said the "Referendum was Fraudulent"..........You and they have been caught spreading FAKE NEWS .........

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