jumpstart Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 So the speaker will only allow a fundermentally changed motion to vote on . So here comes no deal by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-03-18 5:58 PM So the speaker will only allow a fundermentally changed motion to vote on . So here comes no deal by accident. Great init B-) ........ All the political classes will actually achieve what us Brexiteers want because of their slope shoulders (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 You seem to have forgotten that we reserve the right to revoke article 50 if we want to or "have to". Parliament voted out no deal. Whilst this does not stop it being the default position if we do nothing the point is we wont "do nothing". An extension will almost certainly happen but if for some reason it does not there is nothing stopping us stopping Brexit in its tracks if that is the only option. As you are aware there is no majority for No deal in Parliament and unless they do decide to hand it back to the public it will be them making the final choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-03-18 11:34 PM You seem to have forgotten that we reserve the right to revoke article 50 if we want to or "have to". Parliament voted out no deal. Whilst this does not stop it being the default position if we do nothing the point is we wont "do nothing". An extension will almost certainly happen but if for some reason it does not there is nothing stopping us stopping Brexit in its tracks if that is the only option. As you are aware there is no majority for No deal in Parliament and unless they do decide to hand it back to the public it will be them making the final choice. Who ever presses that button will be collecting their P45 ;-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-19 9:11 AM Barryd999 - 2019-03-18 11:34 PM You seem to have forgotten that we reserve the right to revoke article 50 if we want to or "have to". Parliament voted out no deal. Whilst this does not stop it being the default position if we do nothing the point is we wont "do nothing". An extension will almost certainly happen but if for some reason it does not there is nothing stopping us stopping Brexit in its tracks if that is the only option. As you are aware there is no majority for No deal in Parliament and unless they do decide to hand it back to the public it will be them making the final choice. Who ever presses that button will be collecting their P45 ;-) ......... How do you work that one out? Chances are if it happens it will be parliament that will vote to revoke it as it was Parliament that invoked it. Are you going to sack them all? For a kick off over half the country will be delighted, a lot wont care, a lot of half hearted Brexiteers will probably be secretly relieved which just leaves the handful of rabid Jihadi Brexit at any cost die hards like yourself and if they are the ones on Nigels march there are only two minibuses full of them left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-03-19 10:06 AM pelmetman - 2019-03-19 9:11 AM Barryd999 - 2019-03-18 11:34 PM You seem to have forgotten that we reserve the right to revoke article 50 if we want to or "have to". Parliament voted out no deal. Whilst this does not stop it being the default position if we do nothing the point is we wont "do nothing". An extension will almost certainly happen but if for some reason it does not there is nothing stopping us stopping Brexit in its tracks if that is the only option. As you are aware there is no majority for No deal in Parliament and unless they do decide to hand it back to the public it will be them making the final choice. Who ever presses that button will be collecting their P45 ;-) ......... How do you work that one out? Chances are if it happens it will be parliament that will vote to revoke it as it was Parliament that invoked it. Are you going to sack them all? For a kick off over half the country will be delighted, a lot wont care, a lot of half hearted Brexiteers will probably be secretly relieved which just leaves the handful of rabid Jihadi Brexit at any cost die hards like yourself and if they are the ones on Nigels march there are only two minibuses full of them left. Only Mrs May can press the button ;-) ..............and 76% of us Tory members would prefer a No Deal to staying in the EU :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starvin marvin Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-19 9:11 AM Barryd999 - 2019-03-18 11:34 PM You seem to have forgotten that we reserve the right to revoke article 50 if we want to or "have to". Parliament voted out no deal. Whilst this does not stop it being the default position if we do nothing the point is we wont "do nothing". An extension will almost certainly happen but if for some reason it does not there is nothing stopping us stopping Brexit in its tracks if that is the only option. As you are aware there is no majority for No deal in Parliament and unless they do decide to hand it back to the public it will be them making the final choice. Who ever presses that button will be collecting their P45 ;-) ......... She’s already, politically speaking, a dead woman walking. Lino, Leader in name only. Geddit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-19 10:09 AM Barryd999 - 2019-03-19 10:06 AM pelmetman - 2019-03-19 9:11 AM Barryd999 - 2019-03-18 11:34 PM You seem to have forgotten that we reserve the right to revoke article 50 if we want to or "have to". Parliament voted out no deal. Whilst this does not stop it being the default position if we do nothing the point is we wont "do nothing". An extension will almost certainly happen but if for some reason it does not there is nothing stopping us stopping Brexit in its tracks if that is the only option. As you are aware there is no majority for No deal in Parliament and unless they do decide to hand it back to the public it will be them making the final choice. Who ever presses that button will be collecting their P45 ;-) ......... How do you work that one out? Chances are if it happens it will be parliament that will vote to revoke it as it was Parliament that invoked it. Are you going to sack them all? For a kick off over half the country will be delighted, a lot wont care, a lot of half hearted Brexiteers will probably be secretly relieved which just leaves the handful of rabid Jihadi Brexit at any cost die hards like yourself and if they are the ones on Nigels march there are only two minibuses full of them left. Only Mrs May can press the button ;-) ..............and 76% of us Tory members would prefer a No Deal to staying in the EU :D .......... No. Parliament could pass legislation that instructs the government to revoke article 50. Seems unlikely right now but as they have voted down no deal when there are no other options left what do you think they will do? It could be that the government collapses before then though and your mate Corbyn takes over. Then you will get Brexit lite and Diane Abbot looking after our security. You might choose to stay in Spain then, if they will have you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 She could end this sitting of parliament and then restart with the same motion. She could call a snap election, which would mean the Eu would automatically grant an extension. We could be hit by a meteorite. Anyway basically within the next 100 years everyone alive today will be dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-19 10:09 AM.........……….Only Mrs May can press the button ;-) ..............and 76% of us Tory members would prefer a No Deal to staying in the EU :D .......... Just for accuracy, the latest figure I could find, from the joint London and Sussex Universities analytical team, was that 57% of the roughly 125,000 Conservative party members would opt for a no-deal Brexit, if offered the choice between that, the withdrawal deal, and staying in. The same poll revealed that if offered the same choice, 88% of the roughly 550,000 Labour party members would support remain. Trick question :-D. What is larger, 57% of 125,000 or 88% of 550,000? Neither, of course, proves anything other than how members of our two largest parties might vote if offered that chance - except to Dave, that is, who thinks the declared voting intentions of about 71,000 Conservative party members means that a no deal Brexit is on the cards. For reference, the UK electorate is about 46.8 million. So a simple majority requires 23.4million +1 votes. You've quite a way to go yet, Dave! About 23.3 million votes to go, in fact! :-) Chickens, count, and hatched? :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-03-19 7:58 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-19 10:09 AM.........……….Only Mrs May can press the button ;-) ..............and 76% of us Tory members would prefer a No Deal to staying in the EU :D .......... Just for accuracy, the latest figure I could find, from the joint London and Sussex Universities analytical team, was that 57% of the roughly 125,000 Conservative party members would opt for a no-deal Brexit, if offered the choice between that, the withdrawal deal, and staying in. The same poll revealed that if offered the same choice, 88% of the roughly 550,000 Labour party members would support remain. Trick question :-D. What is larger, 57% of 125,000 or 88% of 550,000? Neither, of course, proves anything other than how members of our two largest parties might vote if offered that chance - except to Dave, that is, who thinks the declared voting intentions of about 71,000 Conservative party members means that a no deal Brexit is on the cards. For reference, the UK electorate is about 46.8 million. So a simple majority requires 23.4million +1 votes. You've quite a way to go yet, Dave! About 23.3 million votes to go, in fact! :-) Chickens, count, and hatched? :-D https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/04/most-tory-members-would-choose-no-deal-over-may-brexit-plan You forget its us Tory members who will chose the next Tory leader B-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-03-19 7:58 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-19 10:09 AM.........……….Only Mrs May can press the button ;-) ..............and 76% of us Tory members would prefer a No Deal to staying in the EU :D .......... Just for accuracy, the latest figure I could find, from the joint London and Sussex Universities analytical team, was that 57% of the roughly 125,000 Conservative party members would opt for a no-deal Brexit, if offered the choice between that, the withdrawal deal, and staying in. The same poll revealed that if offered the same choice, 88% of the roughly 550,000 Labour party members would support remain. Trick question :-D. What is larger, 57% of 125,000 or 88% of 550,000? Neither, of course, proves anything other than how members of our two largest parties might vote if offered that chance - except to Dave, that is, who thinks the declared voting intentions of about 71,000 Conservative party members means that a no deal Brexit is on the cards. For reference, the UK electorate is about 46.8 million. So a simple majority requires 23.4million +1 votes. You've quite a way to go yet, Dave! About 23.3 million votes to go, in fact! :-) Chickens, count, and hatched? :-D I think a more interesting figure is that nearly 30 % of eleglible voters didn’t vote in the referendum. So what would happen if they did in a second vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-03-20 7:15 AM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-19 7:58 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-19 10:09 AM.........……….Only Mrs May can press the button ;-) ..............and 76% of us Tory members would prefer a No Deal to staying in the EU :D .......... Just for accuracy, the latest figure I could find, from the joint London and Sussex Universities analytical team, was that 57% of the roughly 125,000 Conservative party members would opt for a no-deal Brexit, if offered the choice between that, the withdrawal deal, and staying in. The same poll revealed that if offered the same choice, 88% of the roughly 550,000 Labour party members would support remain. Trick question :-D. What is larger, 57% of 125,000 or 88% of 550,000? Neither, of course, proves anything other than how members of our two largest parties might vote if offered that chance - except to Dave, that is, who thinks the declared voting intentions of about 71,000 Conservative party members means that a no deal Brexit is on the cards. For reference, the UK electorate is about 46.8 million. So a simple majority requires 23.4million +1 votes. You've quite a way to go yet, Dave! About 23.3 million votes to go, in fact! :-) Chickens, count, and hatched? :-D I think a more interesting figure is that nearly 30 % of eleglible voters didn’t vote in the referendum. So what would happen if they did in a second vote? Research that targeted those that did not vote has shown a two to one leaning towards favouring remain. Peoples vote campaigners have targeted none voters and those that were marginally pro Brexit. In any second referendum campaign those would be the groups campaign efforts would be concentrated on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-03-20 11:40 AM jumpstart - 2019-03-20 7:15 AM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-19 7:58 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-19 10:09 AM.........……….Only Mrs May can press the button ;-) ..............and 76% of us Tory members would prefer a No Deal to staying in the EU :D .......... Just for accuracy, the latest figure I could find, from the joint London and Sussex Universities analytical team, was that 57% of the roughly 125,000 Conservative party members would opt for a no-deal Brexit, if offered the choice between that, the withdrawal deal, and staying in. The same poll revealed that if offered the same choice, 88% of the roughly 550,000 Labour party members would support remain. Trick question :-D. What is larger, 57% of 125,000 or 88% of 550,000? Neither, of course, proves anything other than how members of our two largest parties might vote if offered that chance - except to Dave, that is, who thinks the declared voting intentions of about 71,000 Conservative party members means that a no deal Brexit is on the cards. For reference, the UK electorate is about 46.8 million. So a simple majority requires 23.4million +1 votes. You've quite a way to go yet, Dave! About 23.3 million votes to go, in fact! :-) Chickens, count, and hatched? :-D I think a more interesting figure is that nearly 30 % of eleglible voters didn’t vote in the referendum. So what would happen if they did in a second vote? Research that targeted those that did not vote has shown a two to one leaning towards favouring remain. Peoples vote campaigners have targeted none voters and those that were marginally pro Brexit. In any second referendum campaign those would be the groups campaign efforts would be concentrated on. is that according to research that only asked Remain voters? :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-03-20 12:00 PM Barryd999 - 2019-03-20 11:40 AM jumpstart - 2019-03-20 7:15 AM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-19 7:58 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-19 10:09 AM.........……….Only Mrs May can press the button ;-) ..............and 76% of us Tory members would prefer a No Deal to staying in the EU :D .......... Just for accuracy, the latest figure I could find, from the joint London and Sussex Universities analytical team, was that 57% of the roughly 125,000 Conservative party members would opt for a no-deal Brexit, if offered the choice between that, the withdrawal deal, and staying in. The same poll revealed that if offered the same choice, 88% of the roughly 550,000 Labour party members would support remain. Trick question :-D. What is larger, 57% of 125,000 or 88% of 550,000? Neither, of course, proves anything other than how members of our two largest parties might vote if offered that chance - except to Dave, that is, who thinks the declared voting intentions of about 71,000 Conservative party members means that a no deal Brexit is on the cards. For reference, the UK electorate is about 46.8 million. So a simple majority requires 23.4million +1 votes. You've quite a way to go yet, Dave! About 23.3 million votes to go, in fact! :-) Chickens, count, and hatched? :-D I think a more interesting figure is that nearly 30 % of eleglible voters didn’t vote in the referendum. So what would happen if they did in a second vote? Research that targeted those that did not vote has shown a two to one leaning towards favouring remain. Peoples vote campaigners have targeted none voters and those that were marginally pro Brexit. In any second referendum campaign those would be the groups campaign efforts would be concentrated on. is that according to research that only asked Remain voters? :D ......... Are you pished already? How could research into none voters or those that were marginal Brexit voters target remain voters numbnuts? One lot did not vote and the others are Brexiteers. I dont think the research was carried out by any remain organisation either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-03-20 12:47 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-20 12:00 PM Barryd999 - 2019-03-20 11:40 AM jumpstart - 2019-03-20 7:15 AM Brian Kirby - 2019-03-19 7:58 PM pelmetman - 2019-03-19 10:09 AM.........……….Only Mrs May can press the button ;-) ..............and 76% of us Tory members would prefer a No Deal to staying in the EU :D .......... Just for accuracy, the latest figure I could find, from the joint London and Sussex Universities analytical team, was that 57% of the roughly 125,000 Conservative party members would opt for a no-deal Brexit, if offered the choice between that, the withdrawal deal, and staying in. The same poll revealed that if offered the same choice, 88% of the roughly 550,000 Labour party members would support remain. Trick question :-D. What is larger, 57% of 125,000 or 88% of 550,000? Neither, of course, proves anything other than how members of our two largest parties might vote if offered that chance - except to Dave, that is, who thinks the declared voting intentions of about 71,000 Conservative party members means that a no deal Brexit is on the cards. For reference, the UK electorate is about 46.8 million. So a simple majority requires 23.4million +1 votes. You've quite a way to go yet, Dave! About 23.3 million votes to go, in fact! :-) Chickens, count, and hatched? :-D I think a more interesting figure is that nearly 30 % of eleglible voters didn’t vote in the referendum. So what would happen if they did in a second vote? Research that targeted those that did not vote has shown a two to one leaning towards favouring remain. Peoples vote campaigners have targeted none voters and those that were marginally pro Brexit. In any second referendum campaign those would be the groups campaign efforts would be concentrated on. is that according to research that only asked Remain voters? :D ......... Are you pished already? How could research into none voters or those that were marginal Brexit voters target remain voters numbnuts? One lot did not vote and the others are Brexiteers. I dont think the research was carried out by any remain organisation either. You can get any answer you want from statistics ;-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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