Bulletguy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Spain's third largest bank CaixaBank is to move its headquarters from Catalonia.Catalans and Spaniards now fear the price of it's 'independence' is far too high a price to pay. Hhmmm.......sound familiar? ;-) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/catalonia-independence-referendum-latest-caxiabank-spains-third-largest-bank-to-leave-a7987281.html and there are many more on the move....... http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/09/investing/spain-catalonia-banks-companies-independence/index.html They are beginning to think much more seriously now...... https://www.channel4.com/news/catalonia-on-the-brink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Don’t do it, UK tells Catalonia The UK has told the Catalan people that ‘independence’ might not work out quite the way they want it to. Another small but extremely contentious territory is trying to break away from a larger whole, for reasons that will only make sense when in the voting booth. The Catalan region in northeast Spain, which every journalist has been desperately Googling for the last three weeks, has almost unanimously voted to break away from its parent country. Salomon Williams, a Catalan ‘Leave’ voter, explained, “We will get a snazzy new flag, loads more money for our health service I presume, and we’ll get to take back control of our borders. “The EU will immediately want to renegotiate any trade treaties heavily in our favour, because they can’t afford to be locked out of our package holiday and wacky cathedral industries. “I mean, the EU is desperate to stop Europe disintegrating like a pastry on a wet pavement. Surely they’ll give us everything we ask for?” Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has already declared the successful independence vote illegal, telling the UK, “I bet your Cameron wishes he had thought of that, eh?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Barryd999 - 2017-10-11 8:05 AM Don’t do it, UK tells Catalonia The UK has told the Catalan people that ‘independence’ might not work out quite the way they want it to. Oh the irony eh? Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has already declared the successful independence vote illegal, telling the UK, “I bet your Cameron wishes he had thought of that, eh?” He's now put Catalan on notice and asked their President to clarify whether they are declaring independence or not. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41582469 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-10-11 2:43 PM Barryd999 - 2017-10-11 8:05 AM Don’t do it, UK tells Catalonia The UK has told the Catalan people that ‘independence’ might not work out quite the way they want it to. Oh the irony eh? Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has already declared the successful independence vote illegal, telling the UK, “I bet your Cameron wishes he had thought of that, eh?” He's now put Catalan on notice and asked their President to clarify whether they are declaring independence or not. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41582469 No, but really, I mean hang on chaps, surely you're being a bit unfair, aren't you. But then, on the other hand, well ........................................:-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Dumb de dumb dumb *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 Quite funny really. From street interviews it seems Catalans themselves are split in half with some wanting independence, and others not........errr come to think of it a bit like another country. Some were too nervous to openly state their preference in front of fellow Catalans. Mercedes, who is 23 and lives in Barcelona, calls the actions of the Catalan leader "dictatorial". "I do not think Mr Rajoy is going to dialogue with Mr Puigdemont because he has done everything he can to declare independence. "Spain has always been there to dialogue, but we cannot support illegalities." She says Catalans were left confused about whether Mr Puigdemont had declared independence yesterday and says divisions have worsened. "Some families are broken, people hate each other," she explained. Hhmmm.......now where have i heard that before? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41581033 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muswell Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Bulletguy - 2017-10-12 1:37 AM Quite funny really. From street interviews it seems Catalans themselves are split in half with some wanting independence, and others not........errr come to think of it a bit like another country. Some were too nervous to openly state their preference in front of fellow Catalans. Mercedes, who is 23 and lives in Barcelona, calls the actions of the Catalan leader "dictatorial". "I do not think Mr Rajoy is going to dialogue with Mr Puigdemont because he has done everything he can to declare independence. "Spain has always been there to dialogue, but we cannot support illegalities." She says Catalans were left confused about whether Mr Puigdemont had declared independence yesterday and says divisions have worsened. "Some families are broken, people hate each other," she explained. Hhmmm.......now where have i heard that before? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41581033 It's not quite as simple as is being presented. Just because someone lives in Catalonia does not mean they are Catalan. Because of the economic success of the Barcelona area there has been a lot of immigration from poor areas of Spain such as Andalucia, Also, more recently, from South America and the EU. I suspect that the voting statistics reflect the reality that the Catalanistas turned out to vote, and everyone else thought they shouldn't support an illegal referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 Muswell - 2017-10-12 8:27 AM Bulletguy - 2017-10-12 1:37 AM Quite funny really. From street interviews it seems Catalans themselves are split in half with some wanting independence, and others not........errr come to think of it a bit like another country. Some were too nervous to openly state their preference in front of fellow Catalans. Mercedes, who is 23 and lives in Barcelona, calls the actions of the Catalan leader "dictatorial". "I do not think Mr Rajoy is going to dialogue with Mr Puigdemont because he has done everything he can to declare independence. "Spain has always been there to dialogue, but we cannot support illegalities." She says Catalans were left confused about whether Mr Puigdemont had declared independence yesterday and says divisions have worsened. "Some families are broken, people hate each other," she explained. Hhmmm.......now where have i heard that before? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41581033 It's not quite as simple as is being presented. Just because someone lives in Catalonia does not mean they are Catalan. Because of the economic success of the Barcelona area there has been a lot of immigration from poor areas of Spain such as Andalucia, Also, more recently, from South America and the EU. I suspect that the voting statistics reflect the reality that the Catalanistas turned out to vote, and everyone else thought they shouldn't support an illegal referendum. It never is simple Muswell. I just think there are certain 'parallels' i find ironic. There is certainly a division among them and i got the impression many were too afraid to speak openly on camera. Even the King has now stepped into the furore which, as in UK, would normally be unheard of. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-spain-politics-catalonia/spaniards-use-national-holiday-to-show-unity-amid-catalan-crisis-idUSKBN1CH1BH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Viva Independence B-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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