Guest pelmetman Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 More post Brexit good news :D ........ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7252033/Unemployment-falls-lowest-level-45-YEARS-despite-Brexit-chaos.html Its high time Remoaners surrendered ;-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-07-16 3:59 PM More post Brexit good news :D ........ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7252033/Unemployment-falls-lowest-level-45-YEARS-despite-Brexit-chaos.html Its high time Remoaners surrendered ;-) ........ It's high time Brexs**ters read beyond the screechy headers they salivate over. *-) But despite recent growth, average regular pay for British employees was lower than prior to the 2008 financial crisis. In real terms, workers took home an average of £468 per week in the three months to May, £5 lower than the pre-recession peak of £473 a week recorded for April 2008. And exactly how many of these "amazing jobs" exceed the one hour a week which enables government to deem a person as "employed"? *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 And more Brexit "good news". *-) Pound hits 27-month low as no-deal Brexit fears grow https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2019/jul/16/markets-uk-unemployment-wages-ryanair-boeing-737-max-mark-carney-business-live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 4:54 PM And more Brexit "good news". *-) Pound hits 27-month low as no-deal Brexit fears grow https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2019/jul/16/markets-uk-unemployment-wages-ryanair-boeing-737-max-mark-carney-business-live Those of us who spend extended time abroad tend to watch the markets when it comes to paying our monthly campsites bills ;-) ........ Sometimes I'm a couple of bottles of vino up.......and sometimes I'm a couple of bottles down :'( ...... But overall I'm quids in >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 5:50 PM pelmetman - 2019-07-16 3:59 PM More post Brexit good news :D ........ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7252033/Unemployment-falls-lowest-level-45-YEARS-despite-Brexit-chaos.html Its high time Remoaners surrendered ;-) ........ It's high time Brexs**ters read beyond the screechy headers they salivate over. *-) But despite recent growth, average regular pay for British employees was lower than prior to the 2008 financial crisis. In real terms, workers took home an average of £468 per week in the three months to May, £5 lower than the pre-recession peak of £473 a week recorded for April 2008. And exactly how many of these "amazing jobs" exceed the one hour a week which enables government to deem a person as "employed"? *-) It really must stick in your craw to see the results on employment of the Conservatives' policies. You should take a look at other European countries which haven't recovered from the recession that began in 2008. You should look at the far lower wages still being paid in those countries where the workers would be thrilled to be back to the same pay levels enjoyed then. From the BBC's 'Reality Check'. 'ONS data shows that the number of people usually working six hours or fewer a week is just 1.4% of the UK working population - or just over 400,000 people, which compares with a total of 32.4 million people in work. In fact, that's a drop from 1.8% at the start of the century. So, the share of people working very short hours has actually fallen, which suggests zero-hour contracts are not distorting the headline employment numbers. But why does the ONS use one hour as the definition? Choosing whether to define someone as being in employment or not can be a bit of a conundrum, says Tony Wilson, director at the Institute for Employment Studies. "Why pick one hour? Well, because if you put the bar higher, you might end up classifying people as unemployed even though they're working." "You have to draw the line somewhere," he says. The ONS definition is also an international one - drawn up by the International Labour Organization (ILO). By choosing to use the ILO's definition, the UK's employment data is consistent with other countries, making it easier to draw international comparisons.' The growth in jobs is a real growth. The rise in incomes is a real rise. This country's jobs market has never been as strong, confounding all the scare tactics spouted by the referendum losers. And within a year or so when we've adjusted to leaving the cesspit that is the EU, it will be stronger still. This is from your favourite left wing rag - oh how this must hurt! https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/16/uk-pay-growth-unemployment Typical of the Grauniad, it gloats that the employment growth has slowed. Well of course it has you socialist thickos, almost everyone who wants a job has got one! How can the jobs growth-rate continue at the same rate as we near full employment? Anyway, Mr 'I spent my life making things that kill people and can't stop reminding everyone about it', have you managed to find me one country yet where Corbyn's brand of socialism has worked? It's a question I always enjoy asking the proponents of the politics of envy. Idiotic lefties who would rather everyone was poor and wore a Chairman Mao suit than accept that capitalism has lifted millions out of poverty. Socialism for most isn't based on fairness and equity, it's based on envy and hatred as they just hate seeing some people getting rich on the rewards of their innovation and enterprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-07-16 5:32 PM Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 4:54 PM And more Brexit "good news". *-) Pound hits 27-month low as no-deal Brexit fears grow https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2019/jul/16/markets-uk-unemployment-wages-ryanair-boeing-737-max-mark-carney-business-live Those of us who spend extended time abroad tend to watch the markets when it comes to paying our monthly campsites bills ;-) ........ Sometimes I'm a couple of bottles of vino up.......and sometimes I'm a couple of bottles down :'( ...... But overall I'm quids in >:-) ....... No answer to my first post i see......your silence says it all! But as for your quoted post.....why would anyone "tend to watch the markets" when they claim.....(lol) pelmetman - 2019-05-24 7:17 PM .....we dont actually need to save money, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 7:02 PM No answer to my first post i see......your silence says it all! I refer you to FunsterJohns post ;-) ......... He's more eloquent than me :D ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 7:02 PM .....we dont actually need to save money, Which is why I quantified it in cheap wine ;-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-07-16 7:01 PM Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 5:50 PM pelmetman - 2019-07-16 3:59 PM More post Brexit good news :D ........ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7252033/Unemployment-falls-lowest-level-45-YEARS-despite-Brexit-chaos.html Its high time Remoaners surrendered ;-) ........ It's high time Brexs**ters read beyond the screechy headers they salivate over. *-) But despite recent growth, average regular pay for British employees was lower than prior to the 2008 financial crisis. In real terms, workers took home an average of £468 per week in the three months to May, £5 lower than the pre-recession peak of £473 a week recorded for April 2008. And exactly how many of these "amazing jobs" exceed the one hour a week which enables government to deem a person as "employed"? *-) It really must stick in your craw to see the results on employment of the Conservatives' policies. Why would it when it's common knowledge (to most) how UK government massage employment figures to make them appear low. You even quote as such in your own post But why does the ONS use one hour as the definition? Choosing whether to define someone as being in employment or not can be a bit of a conundrum, says Tony Wilson, director at the Institute for Employment Studies. "Why pick one hour? Well, because if you put the bar higher, you might end up classifying people as unemployed even though they're working." Though i'd already stated that........you confirmed it. Thanks for that. Typical of the Grauniad, it gloats that the employment growth has slowed. Well of course it has you socialist thickos, almost everyone who wants a job has got one! So lets ignore the Guardian as you hate it (other msm is available) and perhaps a capitalist clever dick with his "many well educated friends" *-) will explain why just one sector of the jobs market is in such dire need of staff, "shortages could reach 250?000 by 2030 without urgent action", when you believe 'almost everyone who wants a job has got one'? Obviously they haven't. Oh and that statement is taken from the BMJ. I think they do know what they're talking about. https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4831 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 10:26 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-16 7:01 PM Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 5:50 PM pelmetman - 2019-07-16 3:59 PM More post Brexit good news :D ........ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7252033/Unemployment-falls-lowest-level-45-YEARS-despite-Brexit-chaos.html Its high time Remoaners surrendered ;-) ........ It's high time Brexs**ters read beyond the screechy headers they salivate over. *-) But despite recent growth, average regular pay for British employees was lower than prior to the 2008 financial crisis. In real terms, workers took home an average of £468 per week in the three months to May, £5 lower than the pre-recession peak of £473 a week recorded for April 2008. And exactly how many of these "amazing jobs" exceed the one hour a week which enables government to deem a person as "employed"? *-) It really must stick in your craw to see the results on employment of the Conservatives' policies. Why would it when it's common knowledge (to most) how UK government massage employment figures to make them appear low. You even quote as such in your own post But why does the ONS use one hour as the definition? Choosing whether to define someone as being in employment or not can be a bit of a conundrum, says Tony Wilson, director at the Institute for Employment Studies. "Why pick one hour? Well, because if you put the bar higher, you might end up classifying people as unemployed even though they're working." Though i'd already stated that........you confirmed it. Thanks for that. Typical of the Grauniad, it gloats that the employment growth has slowed. Well of course it has you socialist thickos, almost everyone who wants a job has got one! So lets ignore the Guardian as you hate it (other msm is available) and perhaps a capitalist clever dick with his "many well educated friends" *-) will explain why just one sector of the jobs market is in such dire need of staff, "shortages could reach 250?000 by 2030 without urgent action", when you believe 'almost everyone who wants a job has got one'? Obviously they haven't. Oh and that statement is taken from the BMJ. I think they do know what they're talking about. https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4831 If you're not deliberately lying you're spouting the most pathetic nonsense. The government massages the figures? The figures are produced by the ONS which is independent of the government and you're so dim as to believe that if the figures are 'massaged' none of the staff at the ONS, who will be of all political persuasions, would spill the beans? Apart from which you're one of the first on here to be spouting figures but of course only if they suit your argument. When they don't they're massaged. That is so sad! The method of calculating employment has been used for years but now that the figures destroy your blinkered viewpoint, they're suddenly suspect. The ONS, and the Guardian in its report didn't deny this, has shown the massive growth in employment and the equally massive drop in unemployment. The ONS has also shown that the number of people on very limited hours is minuscule but of course that can't be true because the figures have been 'massaged'. Hilarious! And your final point is incredibly stupid. You claim that one sector is having problems recruiting enough staff and that this is somehow proof that not everyone has a job. Are you mad? It's because we have almost full employment that firms are having difficulty recruiting. If we'd millions of unemployed out there companies would have lots of people to choose from. Incredible logic! The fact is that on all evidence, correctly and diligently analysed by the ONS, employment is at a record high, unemployment is at a record low and wages are growing beyond inflation. As I said, because this is happening because of the Conservatives Government's policies you are foaming at the mouth in denial! You're so desperate that you're resorting to the most unintelligent and ludicrous obfuscation and lying yet again about fiddling. Instead of trying to deny what everyone with a brain knows about employment, why don't you spend some time searching for a socialist country that provides, or has provided, a standard of living and the freedom that we enjoy in the capitalist democracies? Surely you can give just one example? Why do you keep dodging this question? As you said yourself higher up - your silence says it all! The truth is that socialism has never worked and it never will. But the loony left are so jealous of success that they'd rather everyone was poor than a few get rich. Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-07-16 11:08 PM Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 10:26 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-16 7:01 PM Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 5:50 PM pelmetman - 2019-07-16 3:59 PM More post Brexit good news :D ........ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7252033/Unemployment-falls-lowest-level-45-YEARS-despite-Brexit-chaos.html Its high time Remoaners surrendered ;-) ........ It's high time Brexs**ters read beyond the screechy headers they salivate over. *-) But despite recent growth, average regular pay for British employees was lower than prior to the 2008 financial crisis. In real terms, workers took home an average of £468 per week in the three months to May, £5 lower than the pre-recession peak of £473 a week recorded for April 2008. And exactly how many of these "amazing jobs" exceed the one hour a week which enables government to deem a person as "employed"? *-) It really must stick in your craw to see the results on employment of the Conservatives' policies. Why would it when it's common knowledge (to most) how UK government massage employment figures to make them appear low. You even quote as such in your own post But why does the ONS use one hour as the definition? Choosing whether to define someone as being in employment or not can be a bit of a conundrum, says Tony Wilson, director at the Institute for Employment Studies. "Why pick one hour? Well, because if you put the bar higher, you might end up classifying people as unemployed even though they're working." Though i'd already stated that........you confirmed it. Thanks for that. Typical of the Grauniad, it gloats that the employment growth has slowed. Well of course it has you socialist thickos, almost everyone who wants a job has got one! So lets ignore the Guardian as you hate it (other msm is available) and perhaps a capitalist clever dick with his "many well educated friends" *-) will explain why just one sector of the jobs market is in such dire need of staff, "shortages could reach 250?000 by 2030 without urgent action", when you believe 'almost everyone who wants a job has got one'? Obviously they haven't. Oh and that statement is taken from the BMJ. I think they do know what they're talking about. https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4831 If you're not deliberately lying you're spouting the most pathetic nonsense. The government massages the figures? The figures are produced by the ONS which is independent of the government...... You know damn well the point i was making so quit being so bloody obtuse. You are free to disagree but for me, i cannot accept a person doing one hours work per week as "employed" in exactly the same way as i was, and still am, against zero hour contracts with folk spending more time and money traveling to workplaces, only to be told to go home as they aren't needed for that day. And your final point is incredibly stupid. You claim that one sector is having problems recruiting enough staff.... Except it wasn't me who claimed that was it? It was reported in the BMJ, a respected journal for healthcare professionals. But what do they know eh? They are just a bunch of "mad", "incredibly stupid", "unintelligent liars". Your bullish arrogance beggars belief and God help any surgeon who ever has to deal with you. *-) ....spend some time searching for a socialist country that provides, or has provided, a standard of living and the freedom that we enjoy in the capitalist democracies? Surely you can give just one example? Oh ffs...here, fill yer boots. *-) http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/socialist-countries/ Bulgaria and Poland enjoy a very good standard of living in general, Romania to a lesser extent apart from northern. It's not all dirt tracks and donkey carts people like you want it to be. Money goes a very long way in any of these countries, much further than it does here in your wonderful capitalist Nirvana. Freedom? Plenty. What freedoms do you believe you enjoy, that they don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-07-17 1:02 AM Oh ffs...here, fill yer boots. *-) http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/socialist-countries/ Bulgaria and Poland enjoy a very good standard of living in general, Romania to a lesser extent apart from northern. It's not all dirt tracks and donkey carts people like you want it to be. Money goes a very long way in any of these countries, much further than it does here in your wonderful capitalist Nirvana. That good standard of living has come from sponging off the UK directly and via the EU *-) ....... Typical Socialist parasites >:-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-07-17 2:02 AM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-16 11:08 PM Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 10:26 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-16 7:01 PM Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 5:50 PM pelmetman - 2019-07-16 3:59 PM More post Brexit good news :D ........ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7252033/Unemployment-falls-lowest-level-45-YEARS-despite-Brexit-chaos.html Its high time Remoaners surrendered ;-) ........ It's high time Brexs**ters read beyond the screechy headers they salivate over. *-) But despite recent growth, average regular pay for British employees was lower than prior to the 2008 financial crisis. In real terms, workers took home an average of £468 per week in the three months to May, £5 lower than the pre-recession peak of £473 a week recorded for April 2008. And exactly how many of these "amazing jobs" exceed the one hour a week which enables government to deem a person as "employed"? *-) It really must stick in your craw to see the results on employment of the Conservatives' policies. Why would it when it's common knowledge (to most) how UK government massage employment figures to make them appear low. You even quote as such in your own post But why does the ONS use one hour as the definition? Choosing whether to define someone as being in employment or not can be a bit of a conundrum, says Tony Wilson, director at the Institute for Employment Studies. "Why pick one hour? Well, because if you put the bar higher, you might end up classifying people as unemployed even though they're working." Though i'd already stated that........you confirmed it. Thanks for that. Typical of the Grauniad, it gloats that the employment growth has slowed. Well of course it has you socialist thickos, almost everyone who wants a job has got one! So lets ignore the Guardian as you hate it (other msm is available) and perhaps a capitalist clever dick with his "many well educated friends" *-) will explain why just one sector of the jobs market is in such dire need of staff, "shortages could reach 250?000 by 2030 without urgent action", when you believe 'almost everyone who wants a job has got one'? Obviously they haven't. Oh and that statement is taken from the BMJ. I think they do know what they're talking about. https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4831 If you're not deliberately lying you're spouting the most pathetic nonsense. The government massages the figures? The figures are produced by the ONS which is independent of the government...... You know damn well the point i was making so quit being so bloody obtuse. You are free to disagree but for me, i cannot accept a person doing one hours work per week as "employed" in exactly the same way as i was, and still am, against zero hour contracts with folk spending more time and money traveling to workplaces, only to be told to go home as they aren't needed for that day. And your final point is incredibly stupid. You claim that one sector is having problems recruiting enough staff.... Except it wasn't me who claimed that was it? It was reported in the BMJ, a respected journal for healthcare professionals. But what do they know eh? They are just a bunch of "mad", "incredibly stupid", "unintelligent liars". Your bullish arrogance beggars belief and God help any surgeon who ever has to deal with you. *-) ....spend some time searching for a socialist country that provides, or has provided, a standard of living and the freedom that we enjoy in the capitalist democracies? Surely you can give just one example? Oh ffs...here, fill yer boots. *-) http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/socialist-countries/ Bulgaria and Poland enjoy a very good standard of living in general, Romania to a lesser extent apart from northern. It's not all dirt tracks and donkey carts people like you want it to be. Money goes a very long way in any of these countries, much further than it does here in your wonderful capitalist Nirvana. Freedom? Plenty. What freedoms do you believe you enjoy, that they don't? You're being incredibly stupid again. You continually claim that the government's employment figures are all lies because there's a vast number of people only working one hour a week! You do everything that you can to denigrate the success of the economy and its job creation. As I've shown, the number of people working a very short time, usually through their own choice, is minuscule and the growth in real jobs is genuine. But of course in Bulletland the ONS is fiddling the figures because the maker of killing objects can't accept that the Conservatives' policies are actually working. And it was explained in simple terms why the one-hour definition is used but it doesn't mean that people who work up to six hours a week are all working just one hour! Even more stupid is your assertion that, because the NHS is having trouble recruiting, this is proof that lots of people don't have jobs. I never denied the fact that the NHS is having staffing problems but to claim that this somehow proves that there are lots of unemployed people out there is utter nonsense. Many companies are having problems getting staff but this is because we have almost full employment. God knows how anyone can claim that organisations can't get enough staff and at the same time use this as proof that the employment figures are all lies and there are loads of folk out there gagging for a job. But where you really prove that you don't have the capacity for rational thought is in your claim that Bulgaria, Poland and Romania are successful socialist countries. To recap - I asked you to give me the name of one country that has the kind of socialism that Corbyn and his fellow travellers espouse. Corbyn believes in Democratic Socialism. Look it up. This is where the means of production and distribution are delivered by the state. Bulgaria Poland and Romania abandoned this policy in the '90s when they embraced private enterprise! China, Vietnam and all of the former Soviet Bloc countries have seen a marked improvement in their standard of living and the reason for this is that they adopted capitalism! The system that you and your ilk loathe is the one that produces a higher standard of living for working people but of course it makes a few people rich and that's what you really hate. You cannot give me the name of one country that was communist/socialist where the standard of living came anywhere near that of the capitalist democracies. In the link that you provided it actually lists the countries that are no longer Marxist/Leninist and have abandoned that evil creed and adopted a market economy. And guess which three countries are in the long list. Yep, Poland, Bulgaria and Romania. Major fail Mr Maker of Arms that Murder and Kill Millions. Finally, what sort of man brags about making bullets? What sort of man uses a bullet as his avatar? Don't you care that some parent whose child may have been shot in Labour's London, or who lost a child in Dunblane will read your post and be reminded every time they do of their loss? You're a disgrace. Do the decent thing man and change your name and avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-07-17 8:53 AM Bulletguy - 2019-07-17 1:02 AM Oh ffs...here, fill yer boots. *-) http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/socialist-countries/ Bulgaria and Poland enjoy a very good standard of living in general, Romania to a lesser extent apart from northern. It's not all dirt tracks and donkey carts people like you want it to be. Money goes a very long way in any of these countries, much further than it does here in your wonderful capitalist Nirvana. That good standard of living has come from sponging off the UK directly and via the EU *-) ....... Typical Socialist parasites >:-) ........... The problem is Pelmetman that he's too dim to understand that these countries now have a higher standard of living because they abandoned real socialism. And this statement is a gem 'Money goes a very long way in any of these countries, much further than it does here in your wonderful capitalist Nirvana.' Yes, money goes a lot further in these countries because they're dirt poor! Your money will go a hell of a lot further in Bulgaria because the average wage for the poor bulgars who live there is peanuts. Next time I'm in Romania I'll tell the village locals how wealthy they really are because their money goes such a long way! Next time I'm visit my car wash I'll ask the lads there why they're over here when their money would go a lot further in Romania! I don't know whether to laugh at Bullet maker or just feel sad that anyone can be so dim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-07-17 8:02 AM Bulletguy - 2019-07-17 2:02 AM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-16 11:08 PM Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 10:26 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-16 7:01 PM Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 5:50 PM pelmetman - 2019-07-16 3:59 PM More post Brexit good news :D ........ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7252033/Unemployment-falls-lowest-level-45-YEARS-despite-Brexit-chaos.html Its high time Remoaners surrendered ;-) ........ It's high time Brexs**ters read beyond the screechy headers they salivate over. *-) But despite recent growth, average regular pay for British employees was lower than prior to the 2008 financial crisis. In real terms, workers took home an average of £468 per week in the three months to May, £5 lower than the pre-recession peak of £473 a week recorded for April 2008. And exactly how many of these "amazing jobs" exceed the one hour a week which enables government to deem a person as "employed"? *-) It really must stick in your craw to see the results on employment of the Conservatives' policies. Why would it when it's common knowledge (to most) how UK government massage employment figures to make them appear low. You even quote as such in your own post But why does the ONS use one hour as the definition? Choosing whether to define someone as being in employment or not can be a bit of a conundrum, says Tony Wilson, director at the Institute for Employment Studies. "Why pick one hour? Well, because if you put the bar higher, you might end up classifying people as unemployed even though they're working." Though i'd already stated that........you confirmed it. Thanks for that. Typical of the Grauniad, it gloats that the employment growth has slowed. Well of course it has you socialist thickos, almost everyone who wants a job has got one! So lets ignore the Guardian as you hate it (other msm is available) and perhaps a capitalist clever dick with his "many well educated friends" *-) will explain why just one sector of the jobs market is in such dire need of staff, "shortages could reach 250?000 by 2030 without urgent action", when you believe 'almost everyone who wants a job has got one'? Obviously they haven't. Oh and that statement is taken from the BMJ. I think they do know what they're talking about. https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4831 If you're not deliberately lying you're spouting the most pathetic nonsense. The government massages the figures? The figures are produced by the ONS which is independent of the government...... You know damn well the point i was making so quit being so bloody obtuse. You are free to disagree but for me, i cannot accept a person doing one hours work per week as "employed" in exactly the same way as i was, and still am, against zero hour contracts with folk spending more time and money traveling to workplaces, only to be told to go home as they aren't needed for that day. And your final point is incredibly stupid. You claim that one sector is having problems recruiting enough staff.... Except it wasn't me who claimed that was it? It was reported in the BMJ, a respected journal for healthcare professionals. But what do they know eh? They are just a bunch of "mad", "incredibly stupid", "unintelligent liars". Your bullish arrogance beggars belief and God help any surgeon who ever has to deal with you. *-) ....spend some time searching for a socialist country that provides, or has provided, a standard of living and the freedom that we enjoy in the capitalist democracies? Surely you can give just one example? Oh ffs...here, fill yer boots. *-) http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/socialist-countries/ Bulgaria and Poland enjoy a very good standard of living in general, Romania to a lesser extent apart from northern. It's not all dirt tracks and donkey carts people like you want it to be. Money goes a very long way in any of these countries, much further than it does here in your wonderful capitalist Nirvana. Freedom? Plenty. What freedoms do you believe you enjoy, that they don't? You're being incredibly stupid again. You continually claim that the government's employment figures are all lies because there's a vast number of people only working one hour a week!No i didn't, you're purposely misrepresenting what i actually said to spin it into your own narrative. What i said was government massage employment figures to make unemployment low through using the LFS 'one hour a week'. All government have used this, not only Tories. I don't personally agree with it for the reasons i've already stated. What the number is of people working this amount is never shown so neither you nor i know what the figure is. You do everything that you can to denigrate the success of the economy and its job creation. Successful for who exactly? The many....or the few? Please don't tell me 'those who go to work' because many do yet still have to turn to food banks for support to get them through the week. Why has the *allegedly* world fifth wealthiest nation drawn attention from the UN who sent it's special rapporteur, Prof Philip Alston to carry out a survey on extreme poverty who called this governments (yes thats your preferred govt), “punitive, mean-spirited, and often callous” approach, which has inflicted "great misery" on millions by carrying out "radical social re-engineering" with a "driving force that has not been economic". Naturally you will be flippantly dismissive of this just as you have in the past. As Alston said about govt ministers who "remain in a state of denial".....words which fit you perfectly...."i'm alright jack F the rest". As I've shown, the number of people working a very short time, usually through their own choice, is minuscule and the growth in real jobs is genuine. No you didn't.....you said "the ONS has also shown that the number of people on very limited hours is minuscule" but never linked to those figures. Perhaps you should now. You say it's "usually through their own choice" so i'd like to see evidence of that too please. But of course in Bulletland the ONS is fiddling the figures because the maker of killing objects.... Getting a bit sick of your constant childish harping of this subject which appears to grind you no end that i used to work in the Defence industry. It's something of a dilemma for people like you isn't it? How to uphold the necessity for defence, but denigrate those that provide it for you. Even more stupid is your assertion that, because the NHS is having trouble recruiting..... It was neither "stupid" or "an assertion". I'd quoted verbatim from the BMJ which you disparagingly ignored so the one left looking stupid is you. Next time i'll try and source from the Brexpress or Daily Wail. But where you really prove that you don't have the capacity for rational thought is in your claim that Bulgaria, Poland and Romania are successful socialist countries. To recap - I asked you to give me the name of one country that has the kind of socialism that Corbyn and his fellow travellers espouse. Corbyn believes in Democratic Socialism. Look it up. This is where the means of production and distribution are delivered by the state. Actually thats the first time you've brought Corbyn into this but hey ho....it's just proof of your pedantic trolling. Here's a list of Democratic Socialist countries but i'm certain you still won't be satisfied. http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/democratic-socialist-countries/ Bulgaria Poland and Romania abandoned this policy in the '90s when they embraced private enterprise! China, Vietnam and all of the former Soviet Bloc countries have seen a marked improvement in their standard of living and the reason for this is that they adopted capitalism! Much depends on your definition of 'private enterprise' and 'capitalism'. China and Vietnam are one party socialist states, Vietnam with Marxist-Lenist. For a communist country China seems to have done pretty well for itself....much to the annoyance of the worlds 'policeman'. The system that you and your ilk loathe is the one that produces a higher standard of living for working people but of course it makes a few people rich and that's what you really hate. For the many....not the few. I've already stated many times before including this post but you're just trolling and browbeating. I have actually shown there are a few (not many) extremely wealthy people that espouse exactly the same views and even linked you to one guy but i know you wouldn't have listened to one word he said. You should give it a try....after all he's a capitalist so what would you have to fear by listening? And guess which three countries are in the long list. Yep, Poland, Bulgaria and Romania. Major fail Mr Maker of Arms that Murder and Kill Millions. Oh brother here we go again. Tell you what Funnyguy.....if ever this country is invaded, your type are the first to wail about defence. *-) Finally, what sort of man brags about making bullets? What sort of man uses a bullet as his avatar? Don't you care that some parent whose child may have been shot in Labour's London, or who lost a child in Dunblane will read your post and be reminded every time they do of their loss? You're a disgrace. Do the decent thing man and change your name and avatar. You're deranged. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-07-17 1:33 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-17 8:02 AM Bulletguy - 2019-07-17 2:02 AM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-16 11:08 PM Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 10:26 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-16 7:01 PM Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 5:50 PM pelmetman - 2019-07-16 3:59 PM More post Brexit good news :D ........ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7252033/Unemployment-falls-lowest-level-45-YEARS-despite-Brexit-chaos.html Its high time Remoaners surrendered ;-) ........ It's high time Brexs**ters read beyond the screechy headers they salivate over. *-) But despite recent growth, average regular pay for British employees was lower than prior to the 2008 financial crisis. In real terms, workers took home an average of £468 per week in the three months to May, £5 lower than the pre-recession peak of £473 a week recorded for April 2008. And exactly how many of these "amazing jobs" exceed the one hour a week which enables government to deem a person as "employed"? *-) It really must stick in your craw to see the results on employment of the Conservatives' policies. Why would it when it's common knowledge (to most) how UK government massage employment figures to make them appear low. You even quote as such in your own post But why does the ONS use one hour as the definition? Choosing whether to define someone as being in employment or not can be a bit of a conundrum, says Tony Wilson, director at the Institute for Employment Studies. "Why pick one hour? Well, because if you put the bar higher, you might end up classifying people as unemployed even though they're working." Though i'd already stated that........you confirmed it. Thanks for that. Typical of the Grauniad, it gloats that the employment growth has slowed. Well of course it has you socialist thickos, almost everyone who wants a job has got one! So lets ignore the Guardian as you hate it (other msm is available) and perhaps a capitalist clever dick with his "many well educated friends" *-) will explain why just one sector of the jobs market is in such dire need of staff, "shortages could reach 250?000 by 2030 without urgent action", when you believe 'almost everyone who wants a job has got one'? Obviously they haven't. Oh and that statement is taken from the BMJ. I think they do know what they're talking about. https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4831 If you're not deliberately lying you're spouting the most pathetic nonsense. The government massages the figures? The figures are produced by the ONS which is independent of the government...... You know damn well the point i was making so quit being so bloody obtuse. You are free to disagree but for me, i cannot accept a person doing one hours work per week as "employed" in exactly the same way as i was, and still am, against zero hour contracts with folk spending more time and money traveling to workplaces, only to be told to go home as they aren't needed for that day. And your final point is incredibly stupid. You claim that one sector is having problems recruiting enough staff.... Except it wasn't me who claimed that was it? It was reported in the BMJ, a respected journal for healthcare professionals. But what do they know eh? They are just a bunch of "mad", "incredibly stupid", "unintelligent liars". Your bullish arrogance beggars belief and God help any surgeon who ever has to deal with you. *-) ....spend some time searching for a socialist country that provides, or has provided, a standard of living and the freedom that we enjoy in the capitalist democracies? Surely you can give just one example? Oh ffs...here, fill yer boots. *-) http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/socialist-countries/ Bulgaria and Poland enjoy a very good standard of living in general, Romania to a lesser extent apart from northern. It's not all dirt tracks and donkey carts people like you want it to be. Money goes a very long way in any of these countries, much further than it does here in your wonderful capitalist Nirvana. Freedom? Plenty. What freedoms do you believe you enjoy, that they don't? You're being incredibly stupid again. You continually claim that the government's employment figures are all lies because there's a vast number of people only working one hour a week!No i didn't, you're purposely misrepresenting what i actually said to spin it into your own narrative. What i said was government massage employment figures to make unemployment low through using the LFS 'one hour a week'. All government have used this, not only Tories. I don't personally agree with it for the reasons i've already stated. What the number is of people working this amount is never shown so neither you nor i know what the figure is. You do everything that you can to denigrate the success of the economy and its job creation. Successful for who exactly? The many....or the few? Please don't tell me 'those who go to work' because many do yet still have to turn to food banks for support to get them through the week. Why has the *allegedly* world fifth wealthiest nation drawn attention from the UN who sent it's special rapporteur, Prof Philip Alston to carry out a survey on extreme poverty who called this governments (yes thats your preferred govt), “punitive, mean-spirited, and often callous” approach, which has inflicted "great misery" on millions by carrying out "radical social re-engineering" with a "driving force that has not been economic". Naturally you will be flippantly dismissive of this just as you have in the past. As Alston said about govt ministers who "remain in a state of denial".....words which fit you perfectly...."i'm alright jack F the rest". As I've shown, the number of people working a very short time, usually through their own choice, is minuscule and the growth in real jobs is genuine. No you didn't.....you said "the ONS has also shown that the number of people on very limited hours is minuscule" but never linked to those figures. Perhaps you should now. You say it's "usually through their own choice" so i'd like to see evidence of that too please. But of course in Bulletland the ONS is fiddling the figures because the maker of killing objects.... Getting a bit sick of your constant childish harping of this subject which appears to grind you no end that i used to work in the Defence industry. It's something of a dilemma for people like you isn't it? How to uphold the necessity for defence, but denigrate those that provide it for you. Even more stupid is your assertion that, because the NHS is having trouble recruiting..... It was neither "stupid" or "an assertion". I'd quoted verbatim from the BMJ which you disparagingly ignored so the one left looking stupid is you. Next time i'll try and source from the Brexpress or Daily Wail. But where you really prove that you don't have the capacity for rational thought is in your claim that Bulgaria, Poland and Romania are successful socialist countries. To recap - I asked you to give me the name of one country that has the kind of socialism that Corbyn and his fellow travellers espouse. Corbyn believes in Democratic Socialism. Look it up. This is where the means of production and distribution are delivered by the state. Actually thats the first time you've brought Corbyn into this but hey ho....it's just proof of your pedantic trolling. Here's a list of Democratic Socialist countries but i'm certain you still won't be satisfied. http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/democratic-socialist-countries/ Bulgaria Poland and Romania abandoned this policy in the '90s when they embraced private enterprise! China, Vietnam and all of the former Soviet Bloc countries have seen a marked improvement in their standard of living and the reason for this is that they adopted capitalism! Much depends on your definition of 'private enterprise' and 'capitalism'. China and Vietnam are one party socialist states, Vietnam with Marxist-Lenist. For a communist country China seems to have done pretty well for itself....much to the annoyance of the worlds 'policeman'. The system that you and your ilk loathe is the one that produces a higher standard of living for working people but of course it makes a few people rich and that's what you really hate. For the many....not the few. I've already stated many times before including this post but you're just trolling and browbeating. I have actually shown there are a few (not many) extremely wealthy people that espouse exactly the same views and even linked you to one guy but i know you wouldn't have listened to one word he said. You should give it a try....after all he's a capitalist so what would you have to fear by listening? And guess which three countries are in the long list. Yep, Poland, Bulgaria and Romania. Major fail Mr Maker of Arms that Murder and Kill Millions. Oh brother here we go again. Tell you what Funnyguy.....if ever this country is invaded, your type are the first to wail about defence. *-) Finally, what sort of man brags about making bullets? What sort of man uses a bullet as his avatar? Don't you care that some parent whose child may have been shot in Labour's London, or who lost a child in Dunblane will read your post and be reminded every time they do of their loss? You're a disgrace. Do the decent thing man and change your name and avatar. You're deranged. *-) From a previous post of mine. Did you forget it? ''ONS data shows that the number of people usually working six hours or fewer a week is just 1.4% of the UK working population - or just over 400,000 people, which compares with a total of 32.4 million people in work. In fact, that's a drop from 1.8% at the start of the century.' 1.4% is minuscule. How is that going to 'massage' the employment figure, which is now at 76%? The figures are from a BBC enquiry to the ONS. As for the ludicrous claim that the NHS being short of staff proves that we have lots of unemployed people, are you serious? The NHS is only short of staff because there are very few people available, they're all employed! Show me the full link to the NHS claim. As for the capitalist/socialist debate, you've lost, again. You cannot show me one country that was communist/socialist which had a better standard of living than the western capitalist democracies. The ones that you laughingly claim are successful and 'where your money goes further' (tee hee) are now becoming richer because they abandoned that evil creed and embraced free enterprise. Finally, you must have a screw loose yourself if you really think that boasting about making bullets and having one as your avatar is acceptable. I suspect that when you first started haunting forums you thought that it would make you appear glamorous. 'Bulletguy, perhaps he's ex SAS, maybe he was a sniper?' No, he was actually a blue-collar worker in an ROF and then BAE establishment. Pathetic and sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-07-17 1:21 PM From a previous post of mine. Did you forget it? ''ONS data shows that the number of people usually working six hours or fewer a week is just 1.4% of the UK working population - or just over 400,000 people, which compares with a total of 32.4 million people in work. In fact, that's a drop from 1.8% at the start of the century.' Which from the article you linked explained, "Why pick one hour? Well, because if you put the bar higher, you might end up classifying people as unemployed even though they're working." I've explained my reasons for disagreeing over the LFS definition of "employed". You think it's fine to have someone spending more hours per week traveling around on buses/trains to "jobs" which either last one hour or as often the case, told to go back home than actually working.....i don't As for the ludicrous claim that the NHS being short of staff proves that we have lots of unemployed people, are you serious? The NHS is only short of staff because there are very few people available, they're all employed! Show me the full link to the NHS claim. From a previous post of mine. Did you forget it? *-) https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4831 Of course you know much better than healthcare professionals don't you? *-) As for the capitalist/socialist debate, you've lost, again. You cannot show me one country that was communist/socialist which had a better standard of living than the western capitalist democracies. The ones that you laughingly claim are successful and 'where your money goes further' (tee hee) are now becoming richer because they abandoned that evil creed and embraced free enterprise. First it was "one country where socialism has worked", then it's "a standard of living and the freedom that we enjoy in the capitalist democracies"....now it's one that "had a better standard of living". Moving goalposts around to get your own way isn't particularly clever, its just makes you look desperate. You never answered my question from the previous post. What freedoms do you believe you enjoy, that they don't? Finally, you must have a screw loose yourself if you really think that boasting about making bullets and having one as your avatar is acceptable. I suspect that when you first started haunting forums you thought that it would make you appear glamorous. 'Bulletguy, perhaps he's ex SAS, maybe he was a sniper?' No, he was actually a blue-collar worker in an ROF and then BAE establishment. Pathetic and sad. What a load of utter guff and nonsense. You need serious help fella. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-07-17 9:26 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-17 1:21 PM From a previous post of mine. Did you forget it? ''ONS data shows that the number of people usually working six hours or fewer a week is just 1.4% of the UK working population - or just over 400,000 people, which compares with a total of 32.4 million people in work. In fact, that's a drop from 1.8% at the start of the century.' Which from the article you linked explained, "Why pick one hour? Well, because if you put the bar higher, you might end up classifying people as unemployed even though they're working." I've explained my reasons for disagreeing over the LFS definition of "employed". You think it's fine to have someone spending more hours per week traveling around on buses/trains to "jobs" which either last one hour or as often the case, told to go back home than actually working.....i don't As for the ludicrous claim that the NHS being short of staff proves that we have lots of unemployed people, are you serious? The NHS is only short of staff because there are very few people available, they're all employed! Show me the full link to the NHS claim. From a previous post of mine. Did you forget it? *-) https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4831 Of course you know much better than healthcare professionals don't you? *-) As for the capitalist/socialist debate, you've lost, again. You cannot show me one country that was communist/socialist which had a better standard of living than the western capitalist democracies. The ones that you laughingly claim are successful and 'where your money goes further' (tee hee) are now becoming richer because they abandoned that evil creed and embraced free enterprise. First it was "one country where socialism has worked", then it's "a standard of living and the freedom that we enjoy in the capitalist democracies"....now it's one that "had a better standard of living". Moving goalposts around to get your own way isn't particularly clever, its just makes you look desperate. You never answered my question from the previous post. What freedoms do you believe you enjoy, that they don't? Finally, you must have a screw loose yourself if you really think that boasting about making bullets and having one as your avatar is acceptable. I suspect that when you first started haunting forums you thought that it would make you appear glamorous. 'Bulletguy, perhaps he's ex SAS, maybe he was a sniper?' No, he was actually a blue-collar worker in an ROF and then BAE establishment. Pathetic and sad. What a load of utter guff and nonsense. You need serious help fella. :-| Oh my God, you really are dim! Where have I ever commented on whether it's right or wrong to include people who only work an hour or two as employed? My entire point was about rubbishing the guff that you originally came out with in which you claimed that the employment figures are exaggerated because of this. As I've proved, the number of people working under six hours is minuscule and does not detract from the fact that employment has never been higher. Is that simple enough for you? As for your link to the NHS site, all I can read is that the NHS is going to be very short of staff. Nowhere can I see anything about this being related to the employment figures. Anyone with a brain cell can work out that organisations are finding it hard to recruit because we have almost full employment. What is it about you that means that you can't understand this simple fact? And I haven't moved any goal posts. I've posed this question in the same terms many times. And as for freedoms, are you serious? I asked about the living standards in any socialist country and quoted as examples the USSR and DDR. They are no longer fully socialist of course because like most other socialist countries they've adopted free markets. But when they were socialist do you think that they had the same freedoms as we have? Could they travel? Of course they couldn't, unless it meant risking their lives trying to travel from East to West Germany of from Cuba to Florida. Can the citizens of North Korea travel? What freedoms do they enjoy? You need to go back and read where I've asked you this question more than once. I haven't moved anything, it's you with your selective memory. The fact is that you cannot name one country that has practised, or still practises, the politics espoused by Corbyn and McDonnell and has a standard of living anywhere near that of the capitalist democracies. How many people were killed fleeing from West Germany to the workers' paradise of the east? Socialism has never worked, it never will, and its adherents are either naive and stupid with no knowledge of history or motivated by envy and hatred. And you're a perfect example of the latter. As for your disgraceful avatar and constant promotion of the job that you did, if you can't see the distress that it could easily cause to some others, you really are in need of help. I suppose we should be grateful that you didn't work for the Atomic Energy Authority. If you had you'd probably call yourself 'Bombguy' and have a picture of a mushroom cloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-07-17 9:02 PM As for your disgraceful avatar and constant promotion of the job that you did, if you can't see the distress that it could easily cause to some others, you really are in need of help. I suppose we should be grateful that you didn't work for the Atomic Energy Authority. If you had you'd probably call yourself 'Bombguy' and have a picture of a mushroom cloud. More guff, nonsense and total tosh.....the only "constant promotion of the job i did" has come from an unhinged nutjob who can't STFU about it. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeco Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-07-16 3:54 PMAnd more Brexit "good news". *-) Pound hits 27-month low as no-deal Brexit fears growhttps://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2019/jul/16/markets-uk-unemployment-wages-ryanair-boeing-737-max-mark-carney-business-live Paul, interestingly the AU$ to UKPnd is the same today as it was 17July 2018 IE AU1.77 to UK1.00 according to my search online. there have been variations over the year up & down. cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Geeco - 2019-07-18 2:21 AMBulletguy - 2019-07-16 3:54 PMAnd more Brexit "good news". *-) Pound hits 27-month low as no-deal Brexit fears growhttps://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2019/jul/16/markets-uk-unemployment-wages-ryanair-boeing-737-max-mark-carney-business-live Paul, interestingly the AU$ to UKPnd is the same today as it was 17July 2018 IE AU1.77 to UK1.00 according to my search online. there have been variations over the year up & down. cheers,Aaaw don't tell him that Gary ;-) ...........Bullet doesn't like reality :D ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-07-18 12:51 AM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-17 9:02 PM As for your disgraceful avatar and constant promotion of the job that you did, if you can't see the distress that it could easily cause to some others, you really are in need of help. I suppose we should be grateful that you didn't work for the Atomic Energy Authority. If you had you'd probably call yourself 'Bombguy' and have a picture of a mushroom cloud. More guff, nonsense and total tosh.....the only "constant promotion of the job i did" has come from an unhinged nutjob who can't STFU about it. *-) You're obviously upset because I've destroyed every outlandish and biased argument that you put up, but there really is no need to resort to obscene initialisms. Using four-letter words just proves that you have a limited vocabulary, which we know anyway from your dreadful grammar, and that you've run out of logical argument. Where is the link that connects the NHS staff shortages with high unemployment, as you claimed? All the link shows is that the NHS will have staff shortages but, unless I sign up to the BMJ, I can read no more, and I doubt that you've paid and signed up. But to believe that organisations are having trouble recruiting staff is proof that we have high unemployment is beyond moronic. Companies are having problems getting staff because most people already have a job. I find it incomprehensible that you can't work out this simple equation! You have no answer to this, you have no answer to my many requests to name a country where socialism as espoused by your Dear Leader has ever worked and you have no answer (apart from abuse) as to why you find it acceptable to remind anyone who may have lost a loved one to a shooting, by featuring a bullet in your name and even as your avatar. But I now know why you find it acceptable. It's because you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer. But of course you were only a blue-collar worker in an ordnance factory and not a glamorous soldier or army sniper as you hoped people might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Geeco - 2019-07-18 2:21 AMBulletguy - 2019-07-16 3:54 PMAnd more Brexit "good news". *-) Pound hits 27-month low as no-deal Brexit fears growhttps://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2019/jul/16/markets-uk-unemployment-wages-ryanair-boeing-737-max-mark-carney-business-live Paul, interestingly the AU$ to UKPnd is the same today as it was 17July 2018 IE AU1.77 to UK1.00 according to my search online. there have been variations over the year up & down. cheers,Hi Gary......i think the US$ affects ours. How did your recent tour go as i never saw any posts from you about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-07-18 10:25 AM Bulletguy - 2019-07-18 12:51 AM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-17 9:02 PM As for your disgraceful avatar and constant promotion of the job that you did, if you can't see the distress that it could easily cause to some others, you really are in need of help. I suppose we should be grateful that you didn't work for the Atomic Energy Authority. If you had you'd probably call yourself 'Bombguy' and have a picture of a mushroom cloud. More guff, nonsense and total tosh.....the only "constant promotion of the job i did" has come from an unhinged nutjob who can't STFU about it. *-) You're obviously upset because I've destroyed every outlandish and biased argument that you put up... Far from it infact i find your endless pedantry and trolling tiresome to say the least and imagine you to be the "fun" guy everyone avoids at social gatherings. I sympathise with any neighbours you have as you'd take top billing on Nightmare Neighbour from Hell. Where is the link that connects the NHS staff shortages with high unemployment, as you claimed?You claim that everyone who wants a job has got one so that's that sorted isn't it? ....why you find it acceptable to remind anyone who may have lost a loved one to a shooting, by featuring a bullet in your name and even as your avatar.. Seriously fella you need help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-07-18 12:55 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-18 10:25 AM Bulletguy - 2019-07-18 12:51 AM FunsterJohn - 2019-07-17 9:02 PM As for your disgraceful avatar and constant promotion of the job that you did, if you can't see the distress that it could easily cause to some others, you really are in need of help. I suppose we should be grateful that you didn't work for the Atomic Energy Authority. If you had you'd probably call yourself 'Bombguy' and have a picture of a mushroom cloud. More guff, nonsense and total tosh.....the only "constant promotion of the job i did" has come from an unhinged nutjob who can't STFU about it. *-) You're obviously upset because I've destroyed every outlandish and biased argument that you put up... Far from it infact i find your endless pedantry and trolling tiresome to say the least and imagine you to be the "fun" guy everyone avoids at social gatherings. I sympathise with any neighbours you have as you'd take top billing on Nightmare Neighbour from Hell. Where is the link that connects the NHS staff shortages with high unemployment, as you claimed?You claim that everyone who wants a job has got one so that's that sorted isn't it? ....why you find it acceptable to remind anyone who may have lost a loved one to a shooting, by featuring a bullet in your name and even as your avatar.. Seriously fella you need help. Ha ha! No answers so the usual waffle! Let's accept that you given up on finding any countries where socialism worked and just concentrate on another of your very dim-witted points. In an effort to denigrate the government's success in creating jobs you come out with your usual lies and myths and suggest that many of them are people working just one hour a week. I've trashed that argument by showing you official figures that those actually working under six hours is a minuscule number. But your crowning glory was this comment: 'So lets ignore the Guardian as you hate it (other msm is available) and perhaps a capitalist clever dick with his "many well educated friends" will explain why just one sector of the jobs market is in such dire need of staff, "shortages could reach 250?000 by 2030 without urgent action", when you believe 'almost everyone who wants a job has got one'? Obviously they haven't.' So because the NHS (and other organisations) are having problems recruiting staff, you somehow arrive at the conclusion that this proves that we have high unemployment! It's obvious to anyone of even just average intelligence that the opposite is true, as the figure prove by the way. When I query this you claim that I think I know better then NHS professionals and also claim that you have this in writing. However, the link to the BMJ only reports on the potential crisis of the NHS not being able to recruit staff. It says nothing about the employment figures being responsible for anything. That's probably because, the intelligent doctors felt it unnecessarily, as it's obvious to anyone with a brain that the NHS's staffing problem is a direct result of this country having the largest number of people in work ever! But it appears that you're incapable of understanding any of this. So come on, let me have the link that shows that the NHS has suggested that its problems are caused my lots of people being unemployed. Put up or shut up. Stop the silly abuse and for once in your life man up and just admit that you were talking nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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