Barryd999 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 You couldnt make it up. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/boris-burrow-tunnel-to-northern-ireland-expected-to-get-green-light-40088593.html Lets dig a tunnel to Northern Ireland a thousand feet below the sea through a seabed littered with volatile WW2 munitions in order to sneak stuff into Northern Ireland! (lol) Can someone point out to me what difference this will make to the current situation? If there was any doubt about the madness of Johnson before then this surely confirms it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 The Scots will love the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-02-14 11:31 AM Can someone point out to me what difference this will make to the current situation? Help to maintain BoJo's empire at your expense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-02-14 11:36 AM The Scots will love the idea. BoJo will have to give us even more of your money, or lose both Scotland and Northern Ireland from his empire. And when your money runs out - it will be a handy link straight to the EU when Ireland unites :-D Won't affect BoJo if your money lasts till he retires As the Irish PM said 'Boris Johnson would set the country on fire if his hands were cold' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-02-14 11:31 AM You couldn't make it up. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/boris-burrow-tunnel-to-northern-ireland-expected-to-get-green-light-40088593.html Lets dig a tunnel to Northern Ireland a thousand feet below the sea through a seabed littered with volatile WW2 munitions in order to sneak stuff into Northern Ireland! (lol) Can someone point out to me what difference this will make to the current situation? If there was any doubt about the madness of Johnson before then this surely confirms it. Oh, it'll be ready by the end of the month! No problem!! :-D It will have to go from somewhere near Stranraer to somewhere near Larne, and between the two is granite (or similar) and not chalk, so boring with a shield won't work, and it would take a lot longer than the Channel tunnel. Who pays for it? With such small relative traffic volumes, it would never be economical. Then, the existing roads around Stranraer aren't suitable. The whole A75 from Carlisle to Stranraer would need upgrading, though the Belfast end doesn't look too bad. If it is to be a rail only tunnel, then the rail lines both ends will need upgrading as well. If that is his best offer, and I lived in Northern Ireland, I'd encourage it like stink, and once it was finished vote for Irish re-unification. Then, if I were Scots I'd vote for independence because I could then travel from Scotland direct to the rest of the EU. Mind, the English - Scottish border might be fun! Thank you Boris, great idea - if you don't live in England or Wales! :-| Where do they get them? 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Will it have trees planted in it? And cost the public £56,000,000 before a shovel is struck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted February 14, 2021 Author Share Posted February 14, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-02-14 12:36 PM Barryd999 - 2021-02-14 11:31 AM You couldn't make it up. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/boris-burrow-tunnel-to-northern-ireland-expected-to-get-green-light-40088593.html Lets dig a tunnel to Northern Ireland a thousand feet below the sea through a seabed littered with volatile WW2 munitions in order to sneak stuff into Northern Ireland! (lol) Can someone point out to me what difference this will make to the current situation? If there was any doubt about the madness of Johnson before then this surely confirms it. Oh, it'll be ready by the end of the month! No problem!! :-D It will have to go from somewhere near Stranraer to somewhere near Larne, and between the two is granite (or similar) and not chalk, so boring with a shield won't work, and it would take a lot longer than the Channel tunnel. Who pays for it? With such small relative traffic volumes, it would never be economical. Then, the existing roads around Stranraer aren't suitable. The whole A75 from Carlisle to Stranraer would need upgrading, though the Belfast end doesn't look too bad. If it is to be a rail only tunnel, then the rail lines both ends will need upgrading as well. If that is his best offer, and I lived in Northern Ireland, I'd encourage it like stink, and once it was finished vote for Irish re-unification. Then, if I were Scots I'd vote for independence because I could then travel from Scotland direct to the rest of the EU. Mind, the English - Scottish border might be fun! Thank you Boris, great idea - if you don't live in England or Wales! :-| Where do they get them? 8-) Yes I believe the trains on either side are a different gauge not that it matters as it wont happen. It just highlights what a Trumponian loon we have running the country but I still fail to see how he thinks this will improve the situation which is of his own making of course having promised the people of NI there would be no checks and also stated that no Prime Minister would ever allow a border down the Irish Sea before going ahead and creating exactly that. How can anyone sane not see what a moron he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 A road bridge would probably be cheaper, though I suspect still uneconomical, and would also have to be heavily state underwritten. But the uncertainties over Irish reunification and Scottish independence would surely rule out the provision of any state finance, especially post-Covid? The engineering studies alone will undoubtedly be expensive. Trees? Yes, loads, as greenwash! I think this is in the same category as the famous Thames estuary airport and the Garden Bridge. Sheer pie in the sky, to deflect attention from other, more important, issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-02-14 12:36 PM the Belfast end doesn't look too bad. So it should be with all the English taxpayers money spent on it to maintain BoJo's empire at your expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-02-14 1:01 PM But the uncertainties over Irish reunification and Scottish independence would surely rule out the provision of any state finance, especially post-Covid? . I was thinking the opposite Try and see it from BoJo's point of view. It won't be built till BoJo retires, keep his empire together at your expense till then, after which he won't be bothered if the union breaks up. Probably be Labour in charge so he can blame them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-02-14 12:36 PM Thank you Boris, great idea - if you don't live in England .... Par for the course English taxpayer Pelmet will be the real LOSER :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtravel Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 To satisfy all the engineers and politicians why not do like the Dartford Crossing ? Tunnel in one direction and bridge in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 The problem is of course that when that tunnel is finished (a couple of decades from now, IF it is feasible), it'll connect a united Ireland with an independent Scotland. Not to mention the fact that a tunnel solves nothing of the problem. It'll just replace already existing ferry links, but not do anything about the red tape that is preventing freight from getting on the ferries. Customs points will still be needed at the Border to the EU - the Irish Sea. A cynic would suggest that the announcement is merely put forward as a distraction and to move the Brexit disaster stories and the unnecessary deaths of 117,000 people off the front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-02-14 11:36 AM The Scots will love the idea. Yeah......we can take the loans out in their name >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 If it’s a Scottish Road they will have to engineer the potholes and make it single track . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Perhaps we can have an Irish 500 and ruin their countryside as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-02-14 12:36 PM Barryd999 - 2021-02-14 11:31 AM You couldn't make it up. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/boris-burrow-tunnel-to-northern-ireland-expected-to-get-green-light-40088593.html Lets dig a tunnel to Northern Ireland a thousand feet below the sea through a seabed littered with volatile WW2 munitions in order to sneak stuff into Northern Ireland! (lol) Can someone point out to me what difference this will make to the current situation? If there was any doubt about the madness of Johnson before then this surely confirms it. If that is his best offer, and I lived in Northern Ireland, I'd encourage it like stink, and once it was finished vote for Irish re-unification. Then, if I were Scots I'd vote for independence because I could then travel from Scotland direct to the rest of the EU. Mind, the English - Scottish border might be fun! Thank you Boris, great idea - if you don't live in England or Wales! :-| Where do they get them? 8-) Build a Brexit wall and issue passes to Scot/NI residents and English rejoiners only. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-02-14 3:33 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-14 11:36 AM The Scots will love the idea. Yeah......we can take the loans out in their name >:-) ......... How can you do that when we are still part ofthe UK Which we will be till the tunnel is built with your money Best idea BoJo has had He gets what he wants :-S - control of the empire till he retires and with the £billons of your money he is giving us we can put up with that till We get what we want :-D - road to united Ireland then ferry to the EU with your industries relocated here WIN/WIN for Scotland/Ireland :-D And you LOSERS get the bill :D again :D perhaps BoJo isn't so bad after all :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtravel Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-02-14 4:36 PM If it’s a Scottish Road they will have to engineer the potholes and make it single track . At least the Scots are smart enough to have put passing zones everywhere. In England (e.g. Cornwall) not even those. Could this be the reason why the best-selling motorhome accessory are mirror guards ? Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 mtravel - 2021-02-14 4:07 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-14 4:36 PM If it’s a Scottish Road they will have to engineer the potholes and make it single track . At least the Scots are smart enough to have put passing zones everywhere. In England (e.g. Cornwall) not even those. Could this be the reason why the best-selling motorhome accessory are mirror guards ? Max Built by the Romans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Bulletguy - 2021-02-14 3:42 PM Brian Kirby - 2021-02-14 12:36 PM Barryd999 - 2021-02-14 11:31 AM You couldn't make it up. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/boris-burrow-tunnel-to-northern-ireland-expected-to-get-green-light-40088593.html Lets dig a tunnel to Northern Ireland a thousand feet below the sea through a seabed littered with volatile WW2 munitions in order to sneak stuff into Northern Ireland! (lol) Can someone point out to me what difference this will make to the current situation? If there was any doubt about the madness of Johnson before then this surely confirms it. If that is his best offer, and I lived in Northern Ireland, I'd encourage it like stink, and once it was finished vote for Irish re-unification. Then, if I were Scots I'd vote for independence because I could then travel from Scotland direct to the rest of the EU. Mind, the English - Scottish border might be fun! Thank you Boris, great idea - if you don't live in England or Wales! :-| Where do they get them? 8-) Build a Brexit wall and issue passes to Scot/NI residents and English rejoiners only. ;-) ..... and charge Brexiteer LOSERS like Pelmet a toll to use the roads and tunnel they paid for :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-02-14 4:37 PM mtravel - 2021-02-14 4:07 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-14 4:36 PM If it’s a Scottish Road they will have to engineer the potholes and make it single track . At least the Scots are smart enough to have put passing zones everywhere. In England (e.g. Cornwall) not even those. Could this be the reason why the best-selling motorhome accessory are mirror guards ? Max Built by the Romans. Built with LOSER pelmet's money more like :D Romans never got into Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 John52 - 2021-02-14 7:57 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-14 4:37 PM mtravel - 2021-02-14 4:07 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-14 4:36 PM If it’s a Scottish Road they will have to engineer the potholes and make it single track . At least the Scots are smart enough to have put passing zones everywhere. In England (e.g. Cornwall) not even those. Could this be the reason why the best-selling motorhome accessory are mirror guards ? Max Built by the Romans. Built with LOSER pelmet's money more like :D Romans never got into Scotland Romans like English businesses aint daft >:-) ......... (lol) (lol) (lol) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 John52 - 2021-02-14 7:57 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-14 4:37 PM mtravel - 2021-02-14 4:07 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-14 4:36 PM If it’s a Scottish Road they will have to engineer the potholes and make it single track . At least the Scots are smart enough to have put passing zones everywhere. In England (e.g. Cornwall) not even those. Could this be the reason why the best-selling motorhome accessory are mirror guards ? Max Built by the Romans. Built with LOSER pelmet's money more like :D Romans never got into Scotland Yes ,it was a joke, as you know ,like the roads , worse than some of the dirt tracks in New Zealand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 jumpstart - 2021-02-14 8:21 PM John52 - 2021-02-14 7:57 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-14 4:37 PM mtravel - 2021-02-14 4:07 PM jumpstart - 2021-02-14 4:36 PM If it’s a Scottish Road they will have to engineer the potholes and make it single track . At least the Scots are smart enough to have put passing zones everywhere. In England (e.g. Cornwall) not even those. Could this be the reason why the best-selling motorhome accessory are mirror guards ? Max Built by the Romans. Built with LOSER pelmet's money more like :D Romans never got into Scotland Yes ,it was a joke, as you know ,like the roads , worse than some of the dirt tracks in New Zealand. I can't speak for NZ but i've driven some very remote roads in Scotland such as the B871 south of Invernaver and the B887 to Hushinish on the outer Hebrides, both excellently maintained with good surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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