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This confirms Johnson has gone insane. To avoid tunneling through tons of unexploded war munition the clown now wants to build a further three tunnels with a roundabout UNDER the Isle of Man. *-)

 

The scheme is acknowledged as batsh1t among his aides and the roundabout "round the bend". Yes I agree.

 

Tunnel vision: now PM sets his sights on a roundabout under the Isle of Man

 

As flights of political fancy go, Boris Johnson’s desire to build a tunnel between Great Britain and Northern Ireland might seem to be one of the most audacious.

 

However, Whitehall officials have revealed that one version of the plan worked up in Downing Street went even further, envisaging not one but three tunnels under the Irish Sea connecting in an “underground roundabout” beneath the Isle of Man.

 

No 10 officials given the task of examining how Johnson’s blue-sky thinking might be feasible quickly concluded that the original plan of a link between Stranraer in Scotland and Larne in Northern Ireland was impractical.

 

Stranraer has poor transport links and it would cost billions to build a high-speed rail link to connect the tunnel terminus with the rest of Britain. “It would have cost just as much to put in 100 miles of high-speed rail to get even to Carlisle as it would to dig the tunnel,” claimed one source familiar with the deliberations.

 

Instead officials proposed three starting points: at Stranraer, Heysham, near Lancaster, and one near Liverpool. “The idea was that these three tunnels would meet in a giant roundabout underneath the Isle of Man and the tunnel to Ireland would start there,” the source said. “Everyone knows Boris wants to do this so people were asked to look at how.”

 

That route would mean the tunnel was built south of Beaufort’s Dyke — a 32-mile fissure that was used to dump an estimated 1.5 million tons of Second World War munitions — which gets in the way of a direct route between Stranraer and Larne.

 

A second source suggested that the plan for Douglas Junction was designed to “highlight how nuts this whole thing is”. The tunnel scheme is regarded as “batsh1t” by several of Johnson’s senior aides.

 

However, in private they acknowledge that it is a “Fuhrer bunker project”, so beloved of the prime minister that it “cannot die”.

 

“Just as Hitler moved around imaginary armies in the dying days of the Third Reich, so the No 10 policy unit is condemned to keep looking at this idea, which exists primarily in the mind of the PM,” one informed source said. “The roundabout is round the bend.”

 

Nonetheless a formal proposal for a single tunnel has been submitted by the High-Speed Rail Group, an umbrella organisation for rail companies, to a review by Sir Peter Hendy, the chairman of Network Rail, which is supposed to find ways of improving transport links between the different parts of the UK.

 

Hendy, who ran Transport for London when Johnson was mayor, could give the green light for a feasibility study into the plan in the next few weeks.

 

“People think this is all a joke but it’s much more likely to get the go-ahead than people think,” another Whitehall official said.

 

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Shortest route is obviously just north of the dyke.

But with BoJo its always political.

If you have to go via the Isle of Man he keeps control of it when Scotland and Ireland get independence and join the EU.

The Isle of Man is never going to join the EU because they would lose their status as one of Her Majesty's Tax Havens.

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CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-22 10:02 PM

 

Just think of the bungs to chums for feasibility studies that will be paid out here.

Jewellery designers, pub landlords, PR consultants etc will suddenly become civil engineers with £billions thrown at them for Johnsons folly.

 

More taxpayers money stolen and dished out to his chums to party with. :-|

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This is a joke! Heysham to Douglas 65 miles. Liverpool to Douglas 80 miles. Douglas to N/I coast 40 miles.

Heysham currently only served by single track line!

Liverpool has link from Runcorn to Lime St, but for high speed would require new link as existing unsuitable for upgrade. Mersey Rail has underground lines between Lime St and the waterfront, so tunnelling out to Irish sea additionally complex.

These would have to be rail tunnels, as ventilation of long undersea road tunnels not feasible.

Current longest tunnel is Gottard Base Tunnel (rail) under Alps @ 35 miles long.

Channel tunnel remains longest undersea tunnel @ 31 miles.

Miles of new rail required both ends of any feasible rail tunnel route.

Cheaper option, at a guess, would be to radically upgrade Heysham port, which has reasonable access from M6, and buy some new, larger, ferries! :-D

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Brian Kirby - 2021-02-23 12:44 PM

 

This is a joke!

These would have to be rail tunnels, as ventilation of long undersea road tunnels not feasible.

Current longest tunnel is Gottard Base Tunnel (rail) under Alps @ 35 miles long.

Channel tunnel remains longest undersea tunnel @ 31 miles.

Johnson has always been a joke.......just look at the types he attracts.

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Brian Kirby - 2021-02-23 12:44 PM

radically upgrade Heysham port, which has reasonable access from M6, and buy some new, larger, ferries! :-D

 

I think you are missing the point Brian

BoJo has got the wind up about Scottish Independence and wants something else to bribe us with

So he isn't going to hire you

He'll hire some chancer who tells him what he wants to hear :-S

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Barryd999 - 2021-02-23 3:53 PM

 

Time to call in the men in the white coats for Johnson I think.

Had The Times not covered it i'd have thought April Fools day had come early, but it's been in most of msm including the DM so when they publish, you know it must be true. ;-)

 

Some good comments on this;

 

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/batst-best-reactions-as-pm-wants-to-build-roundabout-under-the-isle-of-man/22/02/

 

The Welsh make a valid geographical point; https://nation.cymru/news/bats**t-boris-johnson-plan-for-a-roundabout-under-the-isle-of-man-has-no-welsh-entrance/

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