Barryd999 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Vile racist fruitloop Katie Hopkins has had to apply for an IVA, after she openly sneered at people who found themselves in financial difficulty. The racist commentator, who made a living from writing reams of vile content about immigrants and Muslims, had to take out an Individual Voluntary Arrangement to manage her debts after racking up a six-figure bill when she lost a libel case to writer and campaigner Jack Monroe. (lol) Couldnt happen to a "not so nicer" person. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/katie-hopkins-spiteful-old-tweets-13255672 and https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/katie-hopkins-secretly-forced-file-13254535 The irony is the person she had a go at that brought about the libel case wasnt even the right woman. "She had written: "@MsJackMonroe scrawled on any memorials recently? Vandalised the memory of those who fought for your freedom. Grandma got any more medals?" Hopkins' tweet, Jack said, implied she had either vandalised a war memorial or "condoned or approved" of the criminal damage to the memorial - something that was clearly untrue as Katie had confused Jack with another campaigner." Poundland checkout for you now Katie if your lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Comes to something when Rentagob proved too much for the DM who'd had enough of her. She still has her little band of batsh*t crazy followers who share her warped views though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 So much for freedom of speech eh? *-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-09-16 7:20 PM Comes to something when Rentagob proved too much for the DM who'd had enough of her. She still has her little band of batsh*t crazy followers who share her warped views though. Comes to something when our system has become so perverted that only the views of the left wing are allowed to triumph *-) ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:22 PM So much for freedom of speech eh? *-) ........... Freedom of speech doesn't give someone the right to libel a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:26 PM Bulletguy - 2018-09-16 7:20 PM Comes to something when Rentagob proved too much for the DM who'd had enough of her. She still has her little band of batsh*t crazy followers who share her warped views though. Comes to something when our system has become so perverted that only the views of the left wing are allowed to triumph *-) ............ It had nothing to do with left or even right wing views. Obviously you have zero knowledge of the case. What 'triumphed' was justice....you know, that thing you Brexiteers crowed about wanting in British courts for British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-09-16 7:36 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:22 PM So much for freedom of speech eh? *-) ........... Freedom of speech doesn't give someone the right to libel a person. So I can sue you? ;-) ....... You did say I wasn't a ex member of the armed forces >:-) ......... But not being a money grabbing left winger :D ..........I'll accept a grovelling apology >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:56 PM Bulletguy - 2018-09-16 7:36 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:22 PM So much for freedom of speech eh? *-) ........... Freedom of speech doesn't give someone the right to libel a person. So I can sue you? ;-) ....... You did say I wasn't a ex member of the armed forces >:-) ......... Did i? Feel free to quote the post. Also learn the definition of libel....it seems you don't know what it actually means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-09-16 8:17 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:56 PM Bulletguy - 2018-09-16 7:36 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:22 PM So much for freedom of speech eh? *-) ........... Freedom of speech doesn't give someone the right to libel a person. So I can sue you? ;-) ....... You did say I wasn't a ex member of the armed forces >:-) ......... Did i? Feel free to quote the post. Also learn the definition of libel....it seems you don't know what it actually means. https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/I-expect-this-makes-Bullet-proud-to-be-British-/48553/#M552767 >:-) ........You're lucky I'm not a Snowflake :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-16 8:41 PM Bulletguy - 2018-09-16 8:17 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:56 PM Bulletguy - 2018-09-16 7:36 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:22 PM So much for freedom of speech eh? *-) ........... Freedom of speech doesn't give someone the right to libel a person. So I can sue you? ;-) ....... You did say I wasn't a ex member of the armed forces >:-) ......... Did i? Feel free to quote the post. Also learn the definition of libel....it seems you don't know what it actually means. https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/I-expect-this-makes-Bullet-proud-to-be-British-/48553/#M552767 >:-) ........You're lucky I'm not a Snowflake :D ........ Nothing remotely libelous about that. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:56 PM ........wasn't a ex member of the armed forces >:-) ......... Are you saying those who were not in HM forces are inferior to those who were? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Barryd999 - 2018-09-16 6:45 PM Poundland checkout for you now Katie. Oh I dunno - what about UKIP? They took on Neil Hamilton as leader in Wales when he got too sleazy for the Tory Party (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-09-16 9:20 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 8:41 PM Bulletguy - 2018-09-16 8:17 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:56 PM Bulletguy - 2018-09-16 7:36 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:22 PM So much for freedom of speech eh? *-) ........... Freedom of speech doesn't give someone the right to libel a person. So I can sue you? ;-) ....... You did say I wasn't a ex member of the armed forces >:-) ......... Did i? Feel free to quote the post. Also learn the definition of libel....it seems you don't know what it actually means. https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/I-expect-this-makes-Bullet-proud-to-be-British-/48553/#M552767 >:-) ........You're lucky I'm not a Snowflake :D ........ Nothing remotely libelous about that. *-) "Armed Forces my ass" So what did you mean by the above statement? >:-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-17 5:56 AM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:56 PM ........wasn't a ex member of the armed forces >:-) ......... Are you saying those who were not in HM forces are inferior to those who were? Deffo superior to communists >:-) ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-17 8:39 AM John52 - 2018-09-17 5:56 AM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:56 PM ........wasn't a ex member of the armed forces >:-) ......... Are you saying those who were not in HM forces are inferior to those who were? Deffo superior to communists >:-) ............. Did he call you a communist *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-17 9:01 AM pelmetman - 2018-09-17 8:39 AM John52 - 2018-09-17 5:56 AM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:56 PM ........wasn't a ex member of the armed forces >:-) ......... Are you saying those who were not in HM forces are inferior to those who were? Deffo superior to communists >:-) ............. Did he call you a communist *-) Well if calling someone a Communist is libellous you could owe Corbyn's favourite charities a lot of money https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bradley_(politician) But thats by the way Without your changing the subject again, Are you saying those who have not been in Her Majesty's forces are inferior to those who have.? If not, why do you think it would be libellous to say someone was not in the armed forces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-17 9:35 AM If not, why do you think it would be libellous to say someone was not in the armed forces? Because he's effectively calling me a liar ;-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-17 9:35 AM John52 - 2018-09-17 9:01 AM pelmetman - 2018-09-17 8:39 AM John52 - 2018-09-17 5:56 AM pelmetman - 2018-09-16 7:56 PM ........wasn't a ex member of the armed forces >:-) ......... Are you saying those who were not in HM forces are inferior to those who were? Deffo superior to communists >:-) ............. Did he call you a communist *-) Well if calling someone a Communist is libellous you could owe Corbyn's favourite charities a lot of money https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bradley_(politician) Mr Bradley accused Corbyn of taking money from Communist spies. Unfortunately for Bradley he couldn't provide any evidence of who paid for the tea :D ............ BTW I doubt Corbyn would be insulted by being called a Communist >:-) .......... He likes Communists......He likes to drink tea with Communists......He even employs ex Communists.......He never say's a bad word about Putin *-) .......... https://www.ft.com/content/ee215d4a-4ebf-11e8-a7a9-37318e776bab Clearly UK Communists are not offended by being associated with Corbyn >:-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-17 9:51 AM John52 - 2018-09-17 9:35 AM If not, why do you think it would be libellous to say someone was not in the armed forces? Because he's effectively calling me a liar ;-) ......... Which does not constitute libel. Libel is a written form likely to defame or cause serious harm to a persons reputation.....such as posting on a public forum implying a person to be a 'Muslim rape apologist' or 'Paedo sympathiser' both of which are libelous statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 In general, but not entiely, but it helps me remember defamation definition - Slander is Spoken - Libel is Literary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Well if you have an agenda against communists I suppose you would pick out the worst so called 'communist' you can think of and hold them up as an example of communism. Eg Pol Pot - although communists would point out Pol Pot wasn't a genuine commiunist. Just as if you had an agenda against Her Majesty's forces you would pick out the worst example of an army officer you can think of eg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Mercer and hold him up as an example of HM forces. In fact, statistically, ex-forces come top of the list of prisoners and wife-beaters so bad ex-soldiers are easier to find in Britain than bad communists. And its easier to prove they are ex-forces than it is to prove someone was a genuine communist. Not just pretending to be a communist. I'm sure there are some very good people as communists and I know some very good people who were/are in HM Forces. So its wrong to tar them all with the same brush, and claim that communists are inferior to you because you are ex-forces. And then go on to accuse someone of libelling you by calling you a liar *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-09-17 4:59 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-17 9:51 AM John52 - 2018-09-17 9:35 AM If not, why do you think it would be libellous to say someone was not in the armed forces? Because he's effectively calling me a liar ;-) ......... Which does not constitute libel. Libel is a written form likely to defame or cause serious harm to a persons reputation.....such as posting on a public forum implying a person to be a 'Muslim rape apologist' or 'Paedo sympathiser' both of which are libelous statements. defame verb damage the good reputation of (someone); slander or libel. "he claimed that the article defamed his family" synonyms: libel, slander, malign, cast aspersions on, smear, traduce, blacken the name/character of, give someone a bad name, defame someone's character, sully someone's reputation, run down, speak ill/evil of, back-bite, run a smear campaign against, calumniate, vilify, besmirch, tarnish, stigmatize, disparage, denigrate, discredit, decry, insult, lie about, tell lies about; I reckon you've ticked all of those boxes ;-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-18 7:33 AM Well if you have an agenda against communists I suppose you would pick out the worst so called 'communist' you can think of and hold them up as an example of communism. Eg Pol Pot - although communists would point out Pol Pot wasn't a genuine commiunist. Still trying to rewrite history eh *-) ......... I suppose Hitler, Mussolini and Blair weren't proper Socialists? ;-) .......... Maybe your not a Socialist 8-) ..........Perhaps your a closet Communist? >:-) ......... Much like Corbyn is in my view :D ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W3526602 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Hi, The defence against an accusation of slander or libel is to prove what was said is true. I have a suspicion that it is still a tort (?) to say something that IS true, but intended to defame. I often wondered if writing a Civil Service Annual Staff Report, while wearing my "Hatchet Man" hat could make me vunerable to an accusation of Libel. ??? 602 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-18 8:17 AM I suppose Hitler, Mussolini and Blair weren't proper Socialists. The Mad Hatter has got something right 8-) PS: Was that a mistake (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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