RogerC Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 In the 'Hate on the streets' topic an interesting 'reversal' of a situation/labelling cause me to stop and think for a while.The comment shines an interesting light on how situations/issues are labelled. It is well known that various Jihad's, Koranic edicts, Mad Mullahs etc have, for centuries directed their hatred towards non Muslims/Kafirs. So why I ask is there 'Islamophobia', 'Muslimophobia' and other descriptive words that demonstrate hatred/dislike/discrimination etc towards those people when one never hears of 'Christianophobia' or 'Westernophobia' or 'Whiteophobia' when acts are perpetrated against that section of society.Why is there 'homophobia' and not 'heterophobia' when it is clear that hetero people have been harassed by some from the LGBT element of society? Christian providers of accommodation in Cornwall for example pursued through the courts.......Christianophobic actions by the homosexuals because their 'rights' were deemed to have been infringed?It seems to me that there is more than adequate protection for the so called 'persecuted' minorities, although I don't consider 1.6 billion Islam adherents across the globe (clearly not all are nut jobs)to be a minority but we still have words to label those who fear/act against them because of the actions of terrorist fanatics, and plain and simple nutters acting in the name of Islam, operating under the banner of their religion. Why is an attack on a Muslim (for example) considered racist yet blowing up kids at a concert is just an act of terrorism? It is an extreme form of hatred/racially motivated act so why do the press and authorities not name it as such? Could it be they are afraid to add such numbers of victims to their records as victims of race or hate/religious crime because it will distort the picture they want to portray?Lots of if's and buts' however I ask the question .....why are acts against 'main stream' (please excuse the non PC term)persons not given appropriate labels? Surely they deserve the same protection of their rights/beliefs/sexual orientation as everyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Similarly we hear of lots of protests by non white people that the police and society are discriminating against them and yet when we see on TV or read of criminal acts where the perpetrators are caught they are, if not entirely, more often than not do at least include these minorities. Perhaps the natural tolerance of us indigenous white skins has been pushed too far for too long and a natural backlash is the resentment of the perceptions of benefits and rights conferred on immigrants, especially those who continue to contribute nothing but are happy to take? Or maybe I have got it all wrong and the protests by non whites are fully justified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Yes its biased massively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 At least if Red Jez gets into power we will all be more equal - the haves will all have a lot less and the have nots will all have a lot more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starvin marvin Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Tracker - 2017-10-14 3:10 PM At least if Red Jez gets into power we will all be more equal - the haves will all have a lot less and the have nots will all have a lot more! What's wrong with that? Sounds ok to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 starvin marvin - 2017-10-14 10:21 PM Tracker - 2017-10-14 3:10 PM At least if Red Jez gets into power we will all be more equal - the haves will all have a lot less and the have nots will all have a lot more! What's wrong with that? Sounds ok to me.[/quote Your choice Tony but not mine. Are you happy to buy your neighbours weekly shop for him, or pay his electricity bill just because he is less well off than you? Very laudable if you say yes, but I feel far less generous to my fellow man! We, like so many, started with nothing and had to work hard for a lot of years to get what we have now and whilst we acknowledge there was some good fortune there was also some bad fortune along the way. But I still do not feel inclined to share what we worked so long and so hard for with those less fortunate or simply too idle to get off their collective backsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Tracker - 2017-10-15 1:03 PM starvin marvin - 2017-10-14 10:21 PM Tracker - 2017-10-14 3:10 PM But I still do not feel inclined to share what we worked so long and so hard for with those less fortunate or simply too idle to get off their collective backsides. I don't think there are very many people in that category. What I resent more is having to subsidise hard working people on low pay which makes them welfare dependent through no fault of their own and lines the pockets of their employers. Veronica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Violet1956 - 2017-10-15 1:32 PM Tracker - 2017-10-15 1:03 PM starvin marvin - 2017-10-14 10:21 PM Tracker - 2017-10-14 3:10 PM But I still do not feel inclined to share what we worked so long and so hard for with those less fortunate or simply too idle to get off their collective backsides. I don't think there are very many people in that category. What I resent more is having to subsidise hard working people on low pay which makes them welfare dependent through no fault of their own and lines the pockets of their employers. Veronica I resent having to subsidise idle scroats who live off hard working people and unbelievably aswel as our own idle scroats we ship others in from all over too ... Doesn't just stop with that though either , we also send billions in foreign aid to help other idle scroats in other countries ... Couldn't make it up could ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Violet1956 - 2017-10-15 1:32 PM Tracker - 2017-10-15 1:03 PM starvin marvin - 2017-10-14 10:21 PM Tracker - 2017-10-14 3:10 PM But I still do not feel inclined to share what we worked so long and so hard for with those less fortunate or simply too idle to get off their collective backsides. I don't think there are very many people in that category. What I resent more is having to subsidise hard working people on low pay which makes them welfare dependent through no fault of their own and lines the pockets of their employers. Veronica You can blame Blair & Brown for inventing tax credits.......another win win for big business and idle scroats *-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archiesgrandad Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Can I make a point about Corbyns world. If he ever became PM, the poor would get poorer, and the rich would try to escape, taking with them their wealth and entrepreneurial skills. Those remaining would be the losers at every level, except for the political leaders and their henchmen who would ensure that they did very well out of it. There will, I'm sure be those who will not agree with me, but before we get involved in those tireless denials, make a list of all the countries that have taken the communist/Socialist route that have managed to give their citizens a level of freedom and prosperity that gets anywhere near those enjoyed by the major Western countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerC Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Archiesgrandad - 2017-10-16 11:12 PMCan I make a point about Corbyns world. If he ever became PM, the poor would get poorer, and the rich would try to escape, taking with them their wealth and entrepreneurial skills. Those remaining would be the losers at every level, except for the political leaders and their henchmen who would ensure that they did very well out of it.There will, I'm sure be those who will not agree with me, but before we get involved in those tireless denials, make a list of all the countries that have taken the communist/Socialist route that have managed to give their citizens a level of freedom and prosperity that gets anywhere near those enjoyed by the major Western countries. A very good point..........with which I fully agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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