Guest starspirit Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Travelling from Dunkerque to Clermont Ferrand does anyone know if there is a stress free way around Paris that will be easy on the navigator and pilot please? I currently favour the A1 towards Paris and the A10 / A71 away towards Orleans, and that's not a problem - but the bit around Paris between the A1 and A10 is! With so many different roads, motorways, road numbers and junctions I can see it being a difficult traverse - especially as we look like being on the edge of Paris at about 9.00 am local time. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twooks Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Why not head further west - turn leftish about La Rochelle. :-> B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starspirit Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Thanks Jackie, but the extra distance and tolls would not appear to be justified as an overall time saver, but thanks for the suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Jones Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 We usually use Calais, and we've often headed to the EAST of Paris: either we skirt the city fairly close (Senlis/Meaux/Fontainebleau), or we go further out (St-Quentin/Laon/Chalons-en-Champagne/Troyes/Auxerre). From Dunkirk the wider route may make more sense than it does from Calais. There's another route between the two (via Chateau-Thierry), but that's slower and more challenging for the navigator. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 RichardHave a look at this:Dunkerque - Lille: A25.Lille - Senlis: A1.Senlis - Meaux: N330.Meaux - Melun: A140, A4, N36.Melun - Fontainbleau: N6.From Fontainbleau take N7 to the A6 junction, then A6, A77, N7 to Moulins.Moulins - Riom: N9.Riom - Clermont-F: A71.All fairly straightforward junctions, and all major destinations, so signposting should be reasonably clear. Reasonably close to straight line route, so close to shortest mileage. Autoroute says about 425 miles.The above are all "old" road numbers. A lot of French "N" road numbers have recently changed to "D" numbers (and not necessarily just by substituting "D" for "N", it's being done Departement by Departement, with each making its own rules!) so make sure you get the latest 2007 edition Michelin maps, since they're claiming they now show the up to date numbering! Any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starspirit Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Thanks Brian & Tony - that's pretty well the route that stands out on the map as a decent alternative to the Motorway. My only reservation is that my voice activated navigation system works well in a straight line but has problems with junctions, signposts, road numbers and changes of direction. Apart from that she copes well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 OK, here's another!Dunkerque to Rouen, then Evreux, Druex, Chartres and on to A10 just north of Orleans. The bit through Rouen is tricky, but the N154 South is mostly dual, and quite good and quick. However, we almost never use the Autoroutes or the N roads. We just take the D roads. Bit slower, and needs more map reading (but when you get to a junction there's generally not too much traffic pressure), but you go through France on nearly empty roads. Get the latest Michelin 1:1,000,000 scale map of France, and just follow the yellow roads. Or, if you can sniff out a Bison Fute map, or the 1:1,000,000 Michelin with a green cover, these have all the recommended secondary routes. These are signed with a green arrow on the roadside signposts, and the long distance destination is kept consistently in view. Mind, they all work better when going towards Paris! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starspirit Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Thanks Brian, we too prefer the D roads normally but for this trip the need to cover ground is greater, although not so great as to justify using every toll road. A few extra miles are fine as long as the navigation is straight forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Newell Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Why bother at all? its full of foreigners! D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peejay Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Hello Richard; but the bit around Paris between the A1 and A10 is! Possibly/arguably the best route around SE Paris... From the A1 past Charles de Gaule A/Port pick up the A3 south (Bobigny), then onto the A86 (Creteil, Orly A/Port) onto the A6 (Palaseau) then onto the A10 south. Otherwise, Brians Rouen, Evreux, Dreux route. Unless of course you fancy a stab at the peripherique, not half as bad as some may say and a pussy cat compared to London and the M25. BTW, Nice (free) aire at Beaugency, just off the A10 just West of Orleans for an overnighter. pete pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starspirit Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Dave Newell - 2007-03-31 9:54 PM Why bother at all? its full of foreigners! D. In case you hadn't noticed Dave, so is England! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Chapman Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Hello Richard, And Wales!! mostly the English. Regards, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starspirit Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Fortunately Mike yes - Pembrokeshire is known as 'little England beyond Wales' and was the only county with enough sense to vote against the Cardiff Old Pals Club - sorry I mean welsh Assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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