John52 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 interesting article in the FT about how we subsidise postage from China because its classed as a developing nation. So its cheaper to post small ekectrical items to London from Shenzen (China) than it is to post them from Sheffield. The Government helps them further by not charging them 20% VAT. No wonder Maplins have gone bust. But why have the Tories allowed this to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-07 1:05 PM interesting article in the FT about how we subsidise postage from China because its classed as a developing nation. So its cheaper to post small ekectrical items to London from Shenzen (China) than it is to post them from Sheffield. The Government helps them further by not charging them 20% VAT. No wonder Maplins have gone bust. But why have the Tories allowed this to happen? So it didn't happen under Labour? *-) ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-07 1:15 PM John52 - 2018-09-07 1:05 PM interesting article in the FT about how we subsidise postage from China because its classed as a developing nation. So its cheaper to post small ekectrical items to London from Shenzen (China) than it is to post them from Sheffield. The Government helps them further by not charging them 20% VAT. No wonder Maplins have gone bust. But why have the Tories allowed this to happen? So it didn't happen under Labour? *-) ............ No - Maplins did OK under Labour because the problem was far smaller then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-07 2:15 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-07 1:15 PM John52 - 2018-09-07 1:05 PM interesting article in the FT about how we subsidise postage from China because its classed as a developing nation. So its cheaper to post small ekectrical items to London from Shenzen (China) than it is to post them from Sheffield. The Government helps them further by not charging them 20% VAT. No wonder Maplins have gone bust. But why have the Tories allowed this to happen? So it didn't happen under Labour? *-) ............ No - Maplins did OK under Labour because the problem was far smaller then. Really? ;-) ........... https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/has-overseas-aid-doubled-under-labour "The Prime Minister is right to state that the UK’s overseas aid contribution has doubled since Labour came to power." Still trying to rewrite history Peter *-) ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-07 2:21 PM John52 - 2018-09-07 2:15 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-07 1:15 PM John52 - 2018-09-07 1:05 PM interesting article in the FT about how we subsidise postage from China because its classed as a developing nation. So its cheaper to post small ekectrical items to London from Shenzen (China) than it is to post them from Sheffield. The Government helps them further by not charging them 20% VAT. No wonder Maplins have gone bust. But why have the Tories allowed this to happen? So it didn't happen under Labour? *-) ............ No - Maplins did OK under Labour because the problem was far smaller then. Really? ;-) ........... https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/has-overseas-aid-doubled-under-labour "The Prime Minister is right to state that the UK’s overseas aid contribution has doubled since Labour came to power." Still trying to rewrite history Peter *-) ............. I really don't like defending Tory Bliar. Or 'Blatcher' as he is called because his policies were so similar to Thatcher. (of the two I would prefer Thatcher because she was more honest about it) But the fact is these really were developing nations at that time. As I said, the problem of unfair subsidised competition was far smaller - Maplins were still doing well. And foreign aid to them has increased much further under the Tories - whilst the Tories are cutting benefits to the homeless in England You rightly point out some of Bliar's failings - but instead of making tghem better the Tories have made them far worse. Why would they rather send aid abroad than to the homeless in their own back yard? Is it because they like going abroad being treated like Royalty because they are dishing out our money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-08 6:30 AM pelmetman - 2018-09-07 2:21 PM John52 - 2018-09-07 2:15 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-07 1:15 PM John52 - 2018-09-07 1:05 PM interesting article in the FT about how we subsidise postage from China because its classed as a developing nation. So its cheaper to post small ekectrical items to London from Shenzen (China) than it is to post them from Sheffield. The Government helps them further by not charging them 20% VAT. No wonder Maplins have gone bust. But why have the Tories allowed this to happen? So it didn't happen under Labour? *-) ............ No - Maplins did OK under Labour because the problem was far smaller then. Really? ;-) ........... https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/has-overseas-aid-doubled-under-labour "The Prime Minister is right to state that the UK’s overseas aid contribution has doubled since Labour came to power." Still trying to rewrite history Peter *-) ............. I really don't like defending Tory Bliar. Or 'Blatcher' as he is called because his policies were so similar to Thatcher. (of the two I would prefer Thatcher because she was more honest about it) But the fact is these really were developing nations at that time. As I said, the problem of unfair subsidised competition was far smaller - Maplins were still doing well. And foreign aid to them has increased much further under the Tories - whilst the Tories are cutting benefits to the homeless in England You rightly point out some of Bliar's failings - but instead of making tghem better the Tories have made them far worse. Why would they rather send aid abroad than to the homeless in their own back yard? Is it because they like going abroad being treated like Royalty because they are dishing out our money? Once we have achieved Brexit, we can turn our attention to the ridiculous oversee's aid budget that was increased to 0.7% of GDP by LABOUR >:-) ............... One things for damn sure it wont go down if Corbyn gets the UK cheque book 8-) ............ https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/889149/foreign-aid-labour-jeremy-corbyn-demands-theresa-may-taxpayer-money-international-abroad Perhaps Corbyn's got the taste for going abroad and being treated like Royalty.......By Terrorists >:-) ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-08 8:47 AM oversee's aid budget that was increased to 0.7% of GDP by LABOUR >:-) ............... Are you getting this from the Daily Mail or making it up yourself? The document you quoted does not say that because IT ISN'T TRUE In fact it was put into law to increase oversas aid to 0.7% of GDP in 2015 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/12/pdfs/ukpga_20150012_en.pdf - long after Labour left office. So why are you blaming Labour for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-10 9:05 AM pelmetman - 2018-09-08 8:47 AM oversee's aid budget that was increased to 0.7% of GDP by LABOUR >:-) ............... Are you getting this from the Daily Mail or making it up yourself? The document you quoted does not say that because IT ISN'T TRUE In fact it was put into law to increase oversas aid to 0.7% of GDP in 2015 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/12/pdfs/ukpga_20150012_en.pdf - long after Labour left office. So why are you blaming Labour for it? The Tories put it into law which stopped it growing year on year as it did under Labour ;-) ......... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39658907 BTW will Jeremy Corbyn reduce our overseas aid budget?????? >:-) ........... "Labour said it would “continue to honour” the commitment to spend 0.7 per cent of gross national income on aid" https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/labour-party-outlines-plan-to-redesign-uk-s-approach-international-aid.html So that's a NO then (lol) (lol) (lol) ........... Some more info on who set the 0.7% target ;-) .......... "The target grew out of an earlier suggestion to transfer 1% of donor countries’ income to developing countries. According to Indian economist Jagdish Bhagwati, this “was the idea of Sir Arthur Lewis, the economist who was adviser to Hugh Gaitskell, leader of the British **LABOUR** Party, who wanted a target for his political platform in the 1950s.” https://www.oecd.org/dac/stats/ODA-history-of-the-0-7-target.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-10 9:27 AM The Tories put it into law which stopped it growing year on year as it did under Labour ;-) ......... Why didn't they reduce it instead of closing homeless shelters here? pelmetman - 2018-09-10 9:27 AM BTW will Jeremy Corbyn reduce our overseas aid budget?????? >:-) ........... How can he now the Tories have put it into law to stop him >:-) Just like they put it ionto law to take away Parliaments right to cut benefits to the Royal Hangers On >:-) thanks to the Tories the ELECTED Parliament only has the right to increase the UNELECTED Royal Family's benefits - not to reduce them >:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-10 10:24 AM pelmetman - 2018-09-10 9:27 AM The Tories put it into law which stopped it growing year on year as it did under Labour ;-) ......... Why didn't they reduce it instead of closing homeless shelters here? pelmetman - 2018-09-10 9:27 AM BTW will Jeremy Corbyn reduce our overseas aid budget?????? >:-) ........... How can he now the Tories have put it into law to stop him >:-) Just like they put it ionto law to take away Parliaments right to cut benefits to the Royal Hangers On >:-) thanks to the Tories the ELECTED Parliament only has the right to increase the UNELECTED Royal Family's benefits - not to reduce them >:-) If Corbyn gets in he'll be able to change the law :-| ............ So will he reduce the oversea's aid bill...........Yes or No???? >:-) ...... It's a very simple question, even you should be able answer it ;-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 pelmetman - 2018-09-10 10:33 AM It's a very simple question, even you should be able answer it ;-) ........ Actually its an impossible question - at least for a politician who is honest enough not to make pre-election promises they can't keep. Who knows what state the country will be in when the Tories have spent all our money and credit paying bribes to buy votes from the likes of the DUP >:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 John52 - 2018-09-10 12:08 PM pelmetman - 2018-09-10 10:33 AM It's a very simple question, even you should be able answer it ;-) ........ Actually its an impossible question - at least for a politician who is honest enough not to make pre-election promises they can't keep. Who knows what state the country will be in when the Tories have spent all our money and credit paying bribes to buy votes from the likes of the DUP >:-) Spending money they haven't got has never been a problem for Labour before? >:-) ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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