Birdbrain Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 That would be 34% of the vote going to a brand new party thats pro-Brexit and the Lib-Dems who are Bolox to Brexit would be on 12% https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/11/brexit-party-may-get-more-eu-election-votes-than-tories-and-labour-combined-poll Its in The Guardian so its gotta be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 They dont know what they are voting for! (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Project Smear is working as well as Project Fear (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... I see Change UK has changed direction..........They're going backwards! 8-) ......... So much for the UK voter changing their minds >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 You have nothing to worry about anymore regarding a Peoples Vote then. Why not support a legally binding vote and put it to bed for ever? Surely if the people are still behind Brexit you would prefer them to have the final say rather than a remainer PM and a Parliament stuffed full of remainers wouldnt you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soarer Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 That gay Jewish fellow in Huddersfield Knows the way forward we need more if his Elk ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 soarer - 2019-05-11 10:08 PM That gay Jewish fellow in Huddersfield Knows the way forward we need more if his Elk ;-) Dave Pelmet is from Huddersfield? Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 Well maybe in the long run all this silly Brexit nonsense by our treacherous MPs might have been worth it https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-farages-brexit-party-polling-higher-than-labour-and-tories-combined-before-eu-elections-11717553 Change UK or whatever they are called the remoaners big white hope are if your not able to find em right at the bottom of the list finished before they even got started . In a separate poll about a general election The Brexit Party are ahead of The Tories . In a couple of weeks nationalist/populist parties will run the EU , POTUS Trump is set for 4 more years , populist parties romp through Europe , all we need is Rangers to beat Celtic . Happy Sunday everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-05-11 9:29 PM You have nothing to worry about anymore regarding a Peoples Vote then. Why not support a legally binding vote and put it to bed for ever? Surely if the people are still behind Brexit you would prefer them to have the final say rather than a remainer PM and a Parliament stuffed full of remainers wouldnt you? Is that legally binding as in "Only if you win"? *-) ......... Besides there's no need as there is a proxy vote happening on the 23rd ;-) ..........and if what you Remoaners have been telling us for the last nearly 3 years..... that us voters have changed our minds is true :D ....... Then surely we'll all be voting for Remoaner MEP's because we want to stay in the EU wont we????? >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-12 7:38 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-11 9:29 PM You have nothing to worry about anymore regarding a Peoples Vote then. Why not support a legally binding vote and put it to bed for ever? Surely if the people are still behind Brexit you would prefer them to have the final say rather than a remainer PM and a Parliament stuffed full of remainers wouldnt you? Is that legally binding as in "Only if you win"? *-) ......... Besides there's no need as there is a proxy vote happening on the 23rd ;-) ..........and if what you Remoaners have been telling us for the last nearly 3 years..... that us voters have changed our minds is true :D ....... Then surely we'll all be voting for Remoaner MEP's because we want to stay in the EU wont we????? >:-) ......... No its legally binding whoever wins. How do you define a remoaner vote though. Many will vote for labour. Are they remain or leave? you could argue that one all day long, they dont even know themselves. Some might even be daft enough to vote Tory. They are certainly divided thats for sure. A few people might not even consider Brexit as a priority as despite what you might think the entire country is not obsessed with it and many will just vote for their party of preference on other issues. If Farage takes 34% of the votes all it will show us is that 34% of those that could be arsed to vote still want Brexit. Thats not a majority. You would hope that all those that vote for his party will realise that his version of Brexit means a no deal crash out Brexit but when over 20% of the public think No deal means we remain in the EU and over 20% of Brexiteers think we should stay in the single market it might be true that some at least still dont know what they are voting for. So the only way to truly know what the people want is a referendum on the "available" and "real" Brexit choices not Farages Fantasy Brexit. We had that in 2016. Mind you given how badly so far the remain camp campaign has been you might do alright. Why not support a second vote, your on a roll after all. B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-05-11 9:29 PM You have nothing to worry about anymore regarding a Peoples Vote then. Why not support a legally binding vote and put it to bed for ever? Surely if the people are still behind Brexit you would prefer them to have the final say rather than a remainer PM and a Parliament stuffed full of remainers wouldnt you? After a final say let’s have a final final say then if some don’t like it let’s have another say..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-05-12 8:26 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-12 7:38 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-11 9:29 PM You have nothing to worry about anymore regarding a Peoples Vote then. Why not support a legally binding vote and put it to bed for ever? Surely if the people are still behind Brexit you would prefer them to have the final say rather than a remainer PM and a Parliament stuffed full of remainers wouldnt you? Is that legally binding as in "Only if you win"? *-) ......... Besides there's no need as there is a proxy vote happening on the 23rd ;-) ..........and if what you Remoaners have been telling us for the last nearly 3 years..... that us voters have changed our minds is true :D ....... Then surely we'll all be voting for Remoaner MEP's because we want to stay in the EU wont we????? >:-) ......... No its legally binding whoever wins. How do you define a remoaner vote though. Many will vote for labour. Are they remain or leave? you could argue that one all day long, they dont even know themselves. Some might even be daft enough to vote Tory. They are certainly divided thats for sure. A few people might not even consider Brexit as a priority as despite what you might think the entire country is not obsessed with it and many will just vote for their party of preference on other issues. If Farage takes 34% of the votes all it will show us is that 34% of those that could be arsed to vote still want Brexit. Thats not a majority. You would hope that all those that vote for his party will realise that his version of Brexit means a no deal crash out Brexit but when over 20% of the public think No deal means we remain in the EU and over 20% of Brexiteers think we should stay in the single market it might be true that some at least still dont know what they are voting for. So the only way to truly know what the people want is a referendum on the "available" and "real" Brexit choices not Farages Fantasy Brexit. We had that in 2016. Mind you given how badly so far the remain camp campaign has been you might do alright. Why not support a second vote, your on a roll after all. B-) You lot keep telling us we've all changed our minds.........If that's the case we'll be wanting to send pro EU MEP's to the EU Parliament wont we? ;-) ........... Or do you have another excuse? >:-) ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-12 8:56 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-12 8:26 AM pelmetman - 2019-05-12 7:38 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-11 9:29 PM You have nothing to worry about anymore regarding a Peoples Vote then. Why not support a legally binding vote and put it to bed for ever? Surely if the people are still behind Brexit you would prefer them to have the final say rather than a remainer PM and a Parliament stuffed full of remainers wouldnt you? Is that legally binding as in "Only if you win"? *-) ......... Besides there's no need as there is a proxy vote happening on the 23rd ;-) ..........and if what you Remoaners have been telling us for the last nearly 3 years..... that us voters have changed our minds is true :D ....... Then surely we'll all be voting for Remoaner MEP's because we want to stay in the EU wont we????? >:-) ......... No its legally binding whoever wins. How do you define a remoaner vote though. Many will vote for labour. Are they remain or leave? you could argue that one all day long, they dont even know themselves. Some might even be daft enough to vote Tory. They are certainly divided thats for sure. A few people might not even consider Brexit as a priority as despite what you might think the entire country is not obsessed with it and many will just vote for their party of preference on other issues. If Farage takes 34% of the votes all it will show us is that 34% of those that could be arsed to vote still want Brexit. Thats not a majority. You would hope that all those that vote for his party will realise that his version of Brexit means a no deal crash out Brexit but when over 20% of the public think No deal means we remain in the EU and over 20% of Brexiteers think we should stay in the single market it might be true that some at least still dont know what they are voting for. So the only way to truly know what the people want is a referendum on the "available" and "real" Brexit choices not Farages Fantasy Brexit. We had that in 2016. Mind you given how badly so far the remain camp campaign has been you might do alright. Why not support a second vote, your on a roll after all. B-) You lot keep telling us we've all changed our minds.........If that's the case we'll be wanting to send pro EU MEP's to the EU Parliament wont we? ;-) ........... Or do you have another excuse? >:-) ............ Ive never said everyone has changed their minds. Some have and the evidence is that from those that have that they have mainly changed to remain but not by much. I find it funny though that throughout the past few years we have shown a gradual increase in the polls for remain and you dismiss it but now because Sewage is polling at 34% your wetting your pants with excitement posting polls left right and centre. The main change towards remain is probably down to older Brexiteers dying and new voters becoming eligible to vote. The important vote or poll would be the one on the actual options that ARE available. Polls say in a referendum with Mays Deal vs Remain, remain would win with a 61% majority and they have ignored that so far so why would they take notice of 34% in favour of a crash out Brexit that they have already ruled out and that absolutely nobody campaigned for in the 2016 referendum. No deal was never an option then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 At what point does everybody stop being surprised that in a country where 52% of a referendum voted for an ill-defined, unrealistic Brexit, lots of people are also prepared to vote for an ill-defined, unrealistic Brexit Party? By now the urge of a large chunk of Britain to drive heavy nails into their own knees to teach largely fictional political enemies a lesson should be fairly well established, I'd have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-05-12 2:19 PM At what point does everybody stop being surprised that in a country where 52% of a referendum voted for an ill-defined, unrealistic Brexit, lots of people are also prepared to vote for an ill-defined, unrealistic Brexit Party? By now the urge of a large chunk of Britain to drive heavy nails into their own knees to teach largely fictional political enemies a lesson should be fairly well established, I'd have thought. At what point do you LOSERS accept you LOST? *-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-05-12 4:03 PM Fast Pat - 2019-05-12 2:19 PM At what point does everybody stop being surprised that in a country where 52% of a referendum voted for an ill-defined, unrealistic Brexit, lots of people are also prepared to vote for an ill-defined, unrealistic Brexit Party? By now the urge of a large chunk of Britain to drive heavy nails into their own knees to teach largely fictional political enemies a lesson should be fairly well established, I'd have thought. At what point do you LOSERS accept you LOST? *-) ......... We didn't lose, we were cheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-05-12 4:18 PM pelmetman - 2019-05-12 4:03 PM Fast Pat - 2019-05-12 2:19 PM At what point does everybody stop being surprised that in a country where 52% of a referendum voted for an ill-defined, unrealistic Brexit, lots of people are also prepared to vote for an ill-defined, unrealistic Brexit Party? By now the urge of a large chunk of Britain to drive heavy nails into their own knees to teach largely fictional political enemies a lesson should be fairly well established, I'd have thought. At what point do you LOSERS accept you LOST? *-) ......... We didn't lose, we were cheated. By Democracy (lol) (lol) (lol) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflon2 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-05-12 8:31 AM Barryd999 - 2019-05-11 9:29 PM You have nothing to worry about anymore regarding a Peoples Vote then. Why not support a legally binding vote and put it to bed for ever? Surely if the people are still behind Brexit you would prefer them to have the final say rather than a remainer PM and a Parliament stuffed full of remainers wouldnt you? After a final say let’s have a final final say then if some don’t like it let’s have another say..... You can't put that it's the same as saying if the referendum result is not what you want have another and another until you get the result you want and that's already cornered by the EU luvvies . *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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