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McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

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McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Com'n Bullet *-) .......

 

Is that it? 8-) ......

 

Your hardly gonna earn your Remoaner "Project smear" badge at this rate are you? :D .......

 

 

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McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Com'n Bullet *-) .......

 

Is that it? 8-) ......

 

Your hardly gonna earn your Remoaner "Project smear" badge at this rate are you? :D .......

'Smear'??? You've spent your time perfecting that as you do nothing else all the time over Corbyn. *-)

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Good afternoon . Left leaning supporters have a history of attacking Esther . I seem to remember that John McDonnell type thing calling for her to be lynched . I cant see the OP defending those comments even if they were by one of his gods
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Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Com'n Bullet *-) .......

 

Is that it? 8-) ......

 

Your hardly gonna earn your Remoaner "Project smear" badge at this rate are you? :D .......

'Smear'??? You've spent your time perfecting that as you do nothing else all the time over Corbyn. *-)

 

I dont need to smear Corbyn *-) .......

 

That A hole is perfectly capable of doing that himself :-| .......

 

My only surprise is that formerly normal forum folk like yourself would support him???? :-S ......

 

 

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McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Com'n Bullet *-) .......

 

Is that it? 8-) ......

 

Your hardly gonna earn your Remoaner "Project smear" badge at this rate are you? :D .......

'Smear'??? You've spent your time perfecting that as you do nothing else all the time over Corbyn. *-)

 

I dont need to smear Corbyn *-) .......

If 'you don't need to', then why do you.....with regularity?

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Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Com'n Bullet *-) .......

 

Is that it? 8-) ......

 

Your hardly gonna earn your Remoaner "Project smear" badge at this rate are you? :D .......

'Smear'??? You've spent your time perfecting that as you do nothing else all the time over Corbyn. *-)

 

I dont need to smear Corbyn *-) .......

If 'you don't need to', then why do you.....with regularity?

 

Because he deserves it >:-) ........

 

The man is utter Scum >:-( .......

 

 

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Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Com'n Bullet *-) .......

 

Is that it? 8-) ......

 

Your hardly gonna earn your Remoaner "Project smear" badge at this rate are you? :D .......

'Smear'??? You've spent your time perfecting that as you do nothing else all the time over Corbyn. *-)

 

I dont need to smear Corbyn *-) .......

If 'you don't need to', then why do you.....with regularity?

 

Because he deserves it >:-) ........

 

The man is utter Scum >:-( .......

You're contradicting yourself......nothing new there then. *-)

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Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Com'n Bullet *-) .......

 

Is that it? 8-) ......

 

Your hardly gonna earn your Remoaner "Project smear" badge at this rate are you? :D .......

'Smear'??? You've spent your time perfecting that as you do nothing else all the time over Corbyn. *-)

 

I dont need to smear Corbyn *-) .......

If 'you don't need to', then why do you.....with regularity?

 

Because he deserves it >:-) ........

 

The man is utter Scum >:-( .......

You're contradicting yourself......nothing new there then. *-)

 

Blimey you UK Communists are hard work *-) ..........

 

At least in Odessa they had a sense of humor (lol) ......

 

 

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Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Com'n Bullet *-) .......

 

Is that it? 8-) ......

 

Your hardly gonna earn your Remoaner "Project smear" badge at this rate are you? :D .......

'Smear'??? You've spent your time perfecting that as you do nothing else all the time over Corbyn. *-)

 

I dont need to smear Corbyn *-) .......

If 'you don't need to', then why do you.....with regularity?

 

Because he deserves it >:-) ........

 

The man is utter Scum >:-( .......

You're contradicting yourself......nothing new there then. *-)

 

Blimey you UK Communists are hard work *-) ..........

 

At least in Odessa they had a sense of humor (lol) ......

I suppose that was where you landed after a solo circumnavigation of the globe in your dinghy? *-)

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Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Com'n Bullet *-) .......

 

Is that it? 8-) ......

 

Your hardly gonna earn your Remoaner "Project smear" badge at this rate are you? :D .......

'Smear'??? You've spent your time perfecting that as you do nothing else all the time over Corbyn. *-)

 

I dont need to smear Corbyn *-) .......

If 'you don't need to', then why do you.....with regularity?

 

Because he deserves it >:-) ........

 

The man is utter Scum >:-( .......

You're contradicting yourself......nothing new there then. *-)

 

Blimey you UK Communists are hard work *-) ..........

 

At least in Odessa they had a sense of humor (lol) ......

I suppose that was where you landed after a solo circumnavigation of the globe in your dinghy? *-)

 

Is that the best you can do Mr "I've had a Boring Life" :D .......

 

Just askin? (lol) ........

 

 

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Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Com'n Bullet *-) .......

 

Is that it? 8-) ......

 

Your hardly gonna earn your Remoaner "Project smear" badge at this rate are you? :D .......

'Smear'??? You've spent your time perfecting that as you do nothing else all the time over Corbyn. *-)

 

I dont need to smear Corbyn *-) .......

If 'you don't need to', then why do you.....with regularity?

 

Because he deserves it >:-) ........

 

The man is utter Scum >:-( .......

You're contradicting yourself......nothing new there then. *-)

 

Blimey you UK Communists are hard work *-) ..........

 

At least in Odessa they had a sense of humor (lol) ......

I suppose that was where you landed after a solo circumnavigation of the globe in your dinghy? *-)

 

Is that the best you can do Mr "I've had a Boring Life" :D .......

 

Just askin? (lol) ........

What else do you expect when you go veering so far off thread topic it ceases to make sense? *-)

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Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Isn’t it the “working class” (whoever they are?). Paying for and supporting the WAGS, football stars, tv soap stars etc?

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Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Isn’t it the “working class” (whoever they are?). Paying for and supporting the WAGS, football stars, tv soap stars etc?

Simple answer is if the Tories were as McVey claims, "the natural party of working classes" then they would have given bigger tax breaks to basic rate payers....not those on the higher rate.

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McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Isn’t it the “working class” (whoever they are?). Paying for and supporting the WAGS, football stars, tv soap stars etc?

Simple answer is if the Tories were as McVey claims, "the natural party of working classes" then they would have given bigger tax breaks to basic rate payers....not those on the higher rate.

 

 

Well basic tax rate was raised, duty on fuel and spirits frozen all good for the “working classes”(whoever they are).

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Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Isn’t it the “working class” (whoever they are?). Paying for and supporting the WAGS, football stars, tv soap stars etc?

Simple answer is if the Tories were as McVey claims, "the natural party of working classes" then they would have given bigger tax breaks to basic rate payers....not those on the higher rate.

 

 

Well basic tax rate was raised, duty on fuel and spirits frozen all good for the “working classes”(whoever they are).

The tax breaks were six times more to those on higher rate tax than basic payers who got a 'break' of just £130 pa so it doesn't take much to figure out who came better off from Hammonds budget further increasing the chasm between rich and poor.

 

As for fuel duty, how many higher rate tax payers know the pump price let alone pay for it from their own pocket? Many don't even own the car they drive so it simply doesn't affect them at all.

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Bulletguy - 2019-05-08 3:28 PM

 

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Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Isn’t it the “working class” (whoever they are?). Paying for and supporting the WAGS, football stars, tv soap stars etc?

Simple answer is if the Tories were as McVey claims, "the natural party of working classes" then they would have given bigger tax breaks to basic rate payers....not those on the higher rate.

 

 

Well basic tax rate was raised, duty on fuel and spirits frozen all good for the “working classes”(whoever they are).

The tax breaks were six times more to those on higher rate tax than basic payers who got a 'break' of just £130 pa so it doesn't take much to figure out who came better off from Hammonds budget further increasing the chasm between rich and poor.

 

As for fuel duty, how many higher rate tax payers know the pump price let alone pay for it from their own pocket? Many don't even own the car they drive so it simply doesn't affect them at all.

 

Not quite ,went up from £11850 to £12500 as for the rest they still benefit. If your so dead against “the higher paid” then the “working class “(whoever they are) perhaps need to stop supporting the football stars with their ridiculous salaries.

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jumpstart - 2019-05-08 7:46 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Isn’t it the “working class” (whoever they are?). Paying for and supporting the WAGS, football stars, tv soap stars etc?

Simple answer is if the Tories were as McVey claims, "the natural party of working classes" then they would have given bigger tax breaks to basic rate payers....not those on the higher rate.

 

 

Well basic tax rate was raised, duty on fuel and spirits frozen all good for the “working classes”(whoever they are).

The tax breaks were six times more to those on higher rate tax than basic payers who got a 'break' of just £130 pa so it doesn't take much to figure out who came better off from Hammonds budget further increasing the chasm between rich and poor.

 

As for fuel duty, how many higher rate tax payers know the pump price let alone pay for it from their own pocket? Many don't even own the car they drive so it simply doesn't affect them at all.

 

Not quite ,went up from £11850 to £12500 as for the rest they still benefit. If your so dead against “the higher paid” then the “working class “(whoever they are) perhaps need to stop supporting the football stars with their ridiculous salaries.

Hammonds budget gave £130 for basic-rate taxpayers, and £860 for higher-rate taxpayers so six and a half times the amount to be precise. Premier league footballer salaries aren't really a good example as it's like comparing The Rolling Stones with salaries of session musicians and saying folk should stop buying or listening to music on radio stations paying royalties each time any music is played!

 

I'm not 'against the higher paid' at all. I have family among them two of whom believe in exactly the same principles as i do which is they could easily afford to pay more (without even noticing it) and didn't need a tax break. Sorry but whichever way you look at it the undeniable fact is Tory policy has always been to look after the better off at the expense of the less well off creating a division which has become a chasm. For me the way forward is about narrowing that chasm rather than forever widening it. There are a few seriously wealthy people who've recognised this and American billionaire Nick Hanauer is one of them. There are many clips on YT of his public speaking as well as some articles he's written. Google him if interested and you'll see where i'm coming from.

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Bulletguy - 2019-05-08 3:28 PM

 

jumpstart - 2019-05-08 7:46 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2019-05-07 4:08 PM

 

 

McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Isn’t it the “working class” (whoever they are?). Paying for and supporting the WAGS, football stars, tv soap stars etc?

Simple answer is if the Tories were as McVey claims, "the natural party of working classes" then they would have given bigger tax breaks to basic rate payers....not those on the higher rate.

 

 

Well basic tax rate was raised, duty on fuel and spirits frozen all good for the “working classes”(whoever they are).

The tax breaks were six times more to those on higher rate tax than basic payers who got a 'break' of just £130 pa so it doesn't take much to figure out who came better off from Hammonds budget further increasing the chasm between rich and poor.

 

As for fuel duty, how many higher rate tax payers know the pump price let alone pay for it from their own pocket? Many don't even own the car they drive so it simply doesn't affect them at all.

 

Not quite ,went up from £11850 to £12500 as for the rest they still benefit. If your so dead against “the higher paid” then the “working class “(whoever they are) perhaps need to stop supporting the football stars with their ridiculous salaries.

Hammonds budget gave £130 for basic-rate taxpayers, and £860 for higher-rate taxpayers so six and a half times the amount to be precise. Premier league footballer salaries aren't really a good example as it's like comparing The Rolling Stones with salaries of session musicians and saying folk should stop buying or listening to music on radio stations paying royalties each time any music is played!

 

I'm not 'against the higher paid' at all. I have family among them two of whom believe in exactly the same principles as i do which is they could easily afford to pay more (without even noticing it) and didn't need a tax break. Sorry but whichever way you look at it the undeniable fact is Tory policy has always been to look after the better off at the expense of the less well off creating a division which has become a chasm. For me the way forward is about narrowing that chasm rather than forever widening it. There are a few seriously wealthy people who've recognised this and American billionaire Nick Hanauer is one of them. There are many clips on YT of his public speaking as well as some articles he's written. Google him if interested and you'll see where i'm coming from.

 

Taxing the rich doesn't make the poor better off *-) ...........

 

Nor does giving the poor an excuse to be idle by increasing their benefits :-| ........

 

As the recent experiment in Finland PROVED ;-) .........

 

"If the results from the Finnish study are anything to go by, basic income might make people feel less stressed but doesn't necessarily fix unemployment"

 

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/universal-basic-income-policy-universal-credit

 

 

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I dont need to smear Corbyn *-) .......

 

That A hole is perfectly capable of doing that himself :-| .......

 

My only surprise is that formerly normal forum folk like yourself would support him???? :-S ......

 

 

In 1987 the West London Synagogue approached Islington Council with a startling proposal: to sell its original cemetery to property developers, destroying the gravestones and digging-up and reburying the bodies lying under them. This cemetery (dating from 1843) was not merely of great historic and architectural interest – in the view of orthodox Jews, the deliberate destruction of a cemetery is sacrilegious. So when Islington Council granted the planning application, a Jewish-led and ultimately successful campaign was launched to have the decision reversed. I was part of that campaign. So was Jeremy Corbyn. Meanwhile, the then-leader of Islington Council (1982-92), whose decision to permit the destruction of the cemetery was eventually overturned, was none other than Margaret Hodge

 

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I dont need to smear Corbyn *-) .......

 

That A hole is perfectly capable of doing that himself :-| .......

 

My only surprise is that formerly normal forum folk like yourself would support him???? :-S ......

 

 

In 1987 the West London Synagogue approached Islington Council with a startling proposal: to sell its original cemetery to property developers, destroying the gravestones and digging-up and reburying the bodies lying under them. This cemetery (dating from 1843) was not merely of great historic and architectural interest – in the view of orthodox Jews, the deliberate destruction of a cemetery is sacrilegious. So when Islington Council granted the planning application, a Jewish-led and ultimately successful campaign was launched to have the decision reversed. I was part of that campaign. So was Jeremy Corbyn. Meanwhile, the then-leader of Islington Council (1982-92), whose decision to permit the destruction of the cemetery was eventually overturned, was none other than Margaret Hodge

 

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/05/is-jeremy-corbyn-really-anti-semitic/

 

Surely your not trying to pretend Labours antisemites didn't feel emboldened by Corbyn's anti Israel rhetoric? :-S ............

 

An enabler is no different to those who actually promote antisemitism in my book :-| .......

 

 

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I dont need to smear Corbyn *-) .......

 

That A hole is perfectly capable of doing that himself :-| .......

 

My only surprise is that formerly normal forum folk like yourself would support him???? :-S ......

 

 

In 1987 the West London Synagogue approached Islington Council with a startling proposal: to sell its original cemetery to property developers, destroying the gravestones and digging-up and reburying the bodies lying under them. This cemetery (dating from 1843) was not merely of great historic and architectural interest – in the view of orthodox Jews, the deliberate destruction of a cemetery is sacrilegious. So when Islington Council granted the planning application, a Jewish-led and ultimately successful campaign was launched to have the decision reversed. I was part of that campaign. So was Jeremy Corbyn. Meanwhile, the then-leader of Islington Council (1982-92), whose decision to permit the destruction of the cemetery was eventually overturned, was none other than Margaret Hodge

 

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/05/is-jeremy-corbyn-really-anti-semitic/

 

Surely your not trying to pretend Labours antisemites didn't feel emboldened by Corbyn's anti Israel rhetoric? :-S ............

 

An enabler is no different to those who actually promote antisemitism in my book :-| .......

 

 

You are confusing opposition to the expansion of Israel through the illegal occupation of another country with anti-semitism. Many Jews across the world, including in Israel, object to these actions of the Israeli government - are they anti-semitic?

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pelmetman - 2019-05-09 9:45 AM

 

Fast Pat - 2019-05-09 9:20 AM

 

pelmetman - 2019-05-07 6:00 PM

 

 

I dont need to smear Corbyn *-) .......

 

That A hole is perfectly capable of doing that himself :-| .......

 

My only surprise is that formerly normal forum folk like yourself would support him???? :-S ......

 

 

In 1987 the West London Synagogue approached Islington Council with a startling proposal: to sell its original cemetery to property developers, destroying the gravestones and digging-up and reburying the bodies lying under them. This cemetery (dating from 1843) was not merely of great historic and architectural interest – in the view of orthodox Jews, the deliberate destruction of a cemetery is sacrilegious. So when Islington Council granted the planning application, a Jewish-led and ultimately successful campaign was launched to have the decision reversed. I was part of that campaign. So was Jeremy Corbyn. Meanwhile, the then-leader of Islington Council (1982-92), whose decision to permit the destruction of the cemetery was eventually overturned, was none other than Margaret Hodge

 

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/05/is-jeremy-corbyn-really-anti-semitic/

 

Surely your not trying to pretend Labours antisemites didn't feel emboldened by Corbyn's anti Israel rhetoric? :-S ............

 

An enabler is no different to those who actually promote antisemitism in my book :-| .......

 

 

You are confusing opposition to the expansion of Israel through the illegal occupation of another country with anti-semitism. Many Jews across the world, including in Israel, object to these actions of the Israeli government - are they anti-semitic?

 

I doubt there's a country in the world that doesn't occupy land that was previously owned by someone else's ;-) ........

 

What reason do you object to Israel doing the same?........... because they're Jews? :-| ........

 

At least they can claim previous ownership :D ...........

 

 

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McVey does it again. This time after tweeting an article she wrote in the Brexpress, "We Tories are the natural party of working classes." So delusional and detached from reality it's ever likely she's unwelcome in Liverpool and her Tatton constituency inhabited by premier league footballers, WAGS, tv soap stars and tax avoidance folk which is obviously her idea of 'working class'. *-)

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-sparks-outrage-claiming-16233471

 

Isn’t it the “working class” (whoever they are?). Paying for and supporting the WAGS, football stars, tv soap stars etc?

Simple answer is if the Tories were as McVey claims, "the natural party of working classes" then they would have given bigger tax breaks to basic rate payers....not those on the higher rate.

 

 

Well basic tax rate was raised, duty on fuel and spirits frozen all good for the “working classes”(whoever they are).

The tax breaks were six times more to those on higher rate tax than basic payers who got a 'break' of just £130 pa so it doesn't take much to figure out who came better off from Hammonds budget further increasing the chasm between rich and poor.

 

As for fuel duty, how many higher rate tax payers know the pump price let alone pay for it from their own pocket? Many don't even own the car they drive so it simply doesn't affect them at all.

 

Not quite ,went up from £11850 to £12500 as for the rest they still benefit. If your so dead against “the higher paid” then the “working class “(whoever they are) perhaps need to stop supporting the football stars with their ridiculous salaries.

Hammonds budget gave £130 for basic-rate taxpayers, and £860 for higher-rate taxpayers so six and a half times the amount to be precise. Premier league footballer salaries aren't really a good example as it's like comparing The Rolling Stones with salaries of session musicians and saying folk should stop buying or listening to music on radio stations paying royalties each time any music is played!

 

I'm not 'against the higher paid' at all. I have family among them two of whom believe in exactly the same principles as i do which is they could easily afford to pay more (without even noticing it) and didn't need a tax break. Sorry but whichever way you look at it the undeniable fact is Tory policy has always been to look after the better off at the expense of the less well off creating a division which has become a chasm. For me the way forward is about narrowing that chasm rather than forever widening it. There are a few seriously wealthy people who've recognised this and American billionaire Nick Hanauer is one of them. There are many clips on YT of his public speaking as well as some articles he's written. Google him if interested and you'll see where i'm coming from.

 

Taxing the rich doesn't make the poor better off *-) ...........

Giving the wealthy smaller tax breaks would narrow the wealth gap instead of widening the division further still so eventually would make those less well off, better off. If as McVey claims, her party is "the natural party of the working classes", then that's exactly what they would be doing.....but instead they do the absolute opposite at the expense of the less well off. You're also keen to spout about UK's "booming economy", yet unable to explain why we have child poverty at an all time record high and 'employed' people forced to use food banks. You do realise that working one hour a week now counts as 'employed' don't you?

 

Nor does giving the poor an excuse to be idle by increasing their benefits :-| ........

Please explain to me how and why someone like 64 year old Stephen Smith (linked) was denied benefits and deemed fit for work. Your total absence of empathy and humanity is staggering.

 

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