John52 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Didnt they also say we could feck off if we leave with no deal? Wonder what Nissan will do if that happens. I bet the bung they got never included us leaving with nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-09-20 5:49 PM Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Didnt they also say we could feck off if we leave with no deal? Wonder what Nissan will do if that happens. I bet the bung they got never included us leaving with nothing. Without backing of parliament Johnson can't push through 'no deal' after the Benn bill was given Royal Assent before he prorogued. So he'd be breaking the law if he did. Nissan were offered an £80m package deal to stay with promises it would not be “adversely affected” by Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 6:14 PM Nissan were offered an £80m package deal to stay with promises it would not be “adversely affected” by Brexit. So to keep that promise we have to give Japan whatever it wants. And Brexit was supposed to give us a better deal than we could get as a 28 strong EU trading bloc *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 John52 - 2019-09-20 6:42 PM Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 6:14 PM Nissan were offered an £80m package deal to stay with promises it would not be “adversely affected” by Brexit. So to keep that promise we have to give Japan whatever it wants. And Brexit was supposed to give us a better deal than we could get as a 28 strong EU trading bloc *-) More a matter of government making promises they couldn't keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Of that 27.....Only Germany buys as much from Japan as we do >:-) .......... So that's 2 minnows and 25 small fry ;-) ......... I know who I'd be keen to catch :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-21 9:22 AM Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Of that 27.....Only Germany buys as much from Japan as we do >:-) .......... So that's 2 minnows and 25 small fry ;-) ......... I know who I'd be keen to catch :D ........ You are missing the point. Japan sells us stuff like Japanese car parts that we can't get elsewhere and we really need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 John52 - 2019-09-21 5:16 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-21 9:22 AM Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Of that 27.....Only Germany buys as much from Japan as we do >:-) .......... So that's 2 minnows and 25 small fry ;-) ......... I know who I'd be keen to catch :D ........ You are missing the point. Japan sells us stuff like Japanese car parts that we can't get elsewhere and we really need. To put into their Honda's, Toyota's and Nissan's that are assembled here ;-) ........ So according to your bonkers lefty logic.......Japan will refuse to supply their car companies with parts? 8-) ....... Damn you lefties are taking being "thick as mince" to a new heights (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-21 9:22 AM Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Of that 27.....Only Germany buys as much from Japan as we do >:-) .......... Wrong. Germany imports far more than UK and Netherland and Belgium aren't that far behind either. But why are you making such a silly fuss? You threw the fta's we once had with EU down the pan. https://tinyurl.com/y29j3pkn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-21 5:37 PM John52 - 2019-09-21 5:16 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-21 9:22 AM Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Of that 27.....Only Germany buys as much from Japan as we do >:-) .......... So that's 2 minnows and 25 small fry ;-) ......... I know who I'd be keen to catch :D ........ You are missing the point. Japan sells us stuff like Japanese car parts that we can't get elsewhere and we really need. To put into their Honda's, Toyota's and Nissan's that are assembled here ;-) ........ So according to your bonkers lefty logic.......Japan will refuse to supply their car companies with parts? 8-) ....... Damn you lefties are taking being "thick as mince" to a new heights (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... There won't be any Honda cars assembled in UK after 2021 and only a matter of time before Toyota and Nissan follow. Parts prices will go through the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-09-21 8:52 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-21 9:22 AM Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Of that 27.....Only Germany buys as much from Japan as we do >:-) .......... Wrong. Germany imports far more than UK and Netherland and Belgium aren't that far behind either. But why are you making such a silly fuss? You threw the fta's we once had with EU down the pan. https://tinyurl.com/y29j3pkn Would you p*ss off your second best customer? ;-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-09-21 9:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-21 5:37 PM John52 - 2019-09-21 5:16 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-21 9:22 AM Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Of that 27.....Only Germany buys as much from Japan as we do >:-) .......... So that's 2 minnows and 25 small fry ;-) ......... I know who I'd be keen to catch :D ........ You are missing the point. Japan sells us stuff like Japanese car parts that we can't get elsewhere and we really need. To put into their Honda's, Toyota's and Nissan's that are assembled here ;-) ........ So according to your bonkers lefty logic.......Japan will refuse to supply their car companies with parts? 8-) ....... Damn you lefties are taking being "thick as mince" to a new heights (lol) (lol) (lol) ....... There won't be any Honda cars assembled in UK after 2021 and only a matter of time before Toyota and Nissan follow. Parts prices will go through the roof. You mean those parts made for Honda etc in South Korea etc? ;-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-21 9:43 PM Bulletguy - 2019-09-21 8:52 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-21 9:22 AM Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Of that 27.....Only Germany buys as much from Japan as we do >:-) .......... Wrong. Germany imports far more than UK and Netherland and Belgium aren't that far behind either. But why are you making such a silly fuss? You threw the fta's we once had with EU down the pan. https://tinyurl.com/y29j3pkn Would you p*ss off your second best customer? ;-) ........ If they become troublesome and economically unviable...yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-09-21 10:38 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-21 9:43 PM Bulletguy - 2019-09-21 8:52 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-21 9:22 AM Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Of that 27.....Only Germany buys as much from Japan as we do >:-) .......... Wrong. Germany imports far more than UK and Netherland and Belgium aren't that far behind either. But why are you making such a silly fuss? You threw the fta's we once had with EU down the pan. https://tinyurl.com/y29j3pkn Would you p*ss off your second best customer? ;-) ........ If they become troublesome and economically unviable...yes. Typical clueless loony lefty (lol) (lol) (lol) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-22 10:02 AM Bulletguy - 2019-09-21 10:38 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-21 9:43 PM Bulletguy - 2019-09-21 8:52 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-21 9:22 AM Bulletguy - 2019-09-20 3:02 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-20 1:45 PM John52 - 2019-09-20 11:12 AM Good story in the FT today about the trade deal negotiations with Japan. Readership and commentators include those who trade with Japan daily so can't be conned. Japan is refusing to copy and paste the deal we have now as an EU member They know BoJo is desperate for any deal he can present as a better one than we have now. To people who think he can get us a better deal than the EU gets as a 28 country bloc *-) Trade with Japan (2018): Exports to the UK: 1.53 trillion yen (cars, power engines, car parts) Imports from the UK: 0.91 trillion yen (medical and pharmaceutical products, cars, power engines) https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/uk/data.html Hmmm .......Who's got the most to lose? >:-) ......... You forgot Japan has 27 other EU countries to trade with. We are a mere minnow and not as important as you like to think. Of that 27.....Only Germany buys as much from Japan as we do >:-) .......... Wrong. Germany imports far more than UK and Netherland and Belgium aren't that far behind either. But why are you making such a silly fuss? You threw the fta's we once had with EU down the pan. https://tinyurl.com/y29j3pkn Would you p*ss off your second best customer? ;-) ........ If they become troublesome and economically unviable...yes. Typical clueless loony lefty (lol) (lol) (lol) ........... In other words you are stuck for a credible reply. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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