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userBarryd999
Posted: 15 February 2019 12:04 PM
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As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002

userpelmetman
Posted: 15 February 2019 1:28 PM
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If WTO rules don't work ............

What's the point of the WTO? .........

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Posted: 15 February 2019 2:46 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-02-15 1:28 PM

If WTO rules don't work ............

What's the point of the WTO? .........



There isnt one if you just think you can trade on their rules only. Thats why nobody does. Trading countries are either in the single market or have formed their own. Have you actually read the post? Go on impress me and tell me you have, every word.
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Posted: 15 February 2019 3:27 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.

userpelmetman
Posted: 15 February 2019 4:02 PM
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malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



C) Exactly .........

We're done being propagandized/Scaremongered ...........



Edited by pelmetman 2019-02-15 4:03 PM
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Posted: 15 February 2019 4:26 PM
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malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.


Pelmet doesn't read beyond a screechy header and has even been known to post links which totally conflict his view point......which he doesn't know about until someone suggests he really ought read his own links before posting!
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Posted: 15 February 2019 4:35 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-02-15 4:26 PM

malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.


Pelmet doesn't read beyond a screechy header and has even been known to post links which totally conflict his view point......which he doesn't know about until someone suggests he really ought read his own links before posting!


I tell you what I find amusing nowadays Bullet ............

Is that a dyed in the wool Socialist/Communist like yourself will suck up every word without a thought...... from any Remoaner CAPITALIST ...........

How times have changed eh...... Comrade? .....



userantony1969
Posted: 15 February 2019 5:27 PM
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Barry you and those like ya scaremongering days are nearly over ... No one cares , well no one on the leave side gives a flying fig what lies and bullsh!t you peddle anyway ... Youve been whinging for well over two years and totally ignored the crap that goes on in EUs France , Germany , Italy , Spain etc ... Youve lost and POTUS Trump has stated again little old doomed UK is in for a sweet deal from our US cousins ... Chlorinated chicken for you fats
userBarryd999
Posted: 15 February 2019 5:34 PM
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malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.
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Posted: 15 February 2019 5:38 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 5:34 PM

malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Nowt to do with scary monsters , though Merkel , Druncker etc etc are very scary its just that after such a long ruddy time your whinging becomes stale ... Specially when EU world is in the sh!t which you conveniently ignore ... I would say what your doing relies way more on "ignorance being bliss"
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Posted: 15 February 2019 5:52 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 5:34 PM

malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Eh? ..........

It's you Remoaners who are scared to leave the over priced EU security blanket .........

userBarryd999
Posted: 15 February 2019 7:07 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-02-15 5:52 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 5:34 PM

malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Eh? ..........

It's you Remoaners who are scared to leave the over priced EU security blanket .........



Im not scared, Im just realistic and ive spend nearly three years studying the facts and as regards being in the EU, warts an all I can tell you, Brexit is a really really bad idea. You wouldnt know that though as you have learned nothing in those three years because you have had your head in the sand, literally it would seem. Its pointless discussing it on forums anymore and expecting what few Brexiteers are left to have any kind of sensible discussion except to educate fellow remainers in case there is a second referendum.

You best hope that a second ref doesnt happen because if the in out debate sparks up again it will be like shooting fish in a barrel.
userpelmetman
Posted: 15 February 2019 7:13 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 7:07 PM

pelmetman - 2019-02-15 5:52 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 5:34 PM

malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Eh? ..........

It's you Remoaners who are scared to leave the over priced EU security blanket .........



Im not scared, Im just realistic and ive spend nearly three years studying the facts and as regards being in the EU, warts an all I can tell you, Brexit is a really really bad idea. You wouldnt know that though as you have learned nothing in those three years because you have had your head in the sand, literally it would seem. Its pointless discussing it on forums anymore and expecting what few Brexiteers are left to have any kind of sensible discussion except to educate fellow remainers in case there is a second referendum.

You best hope that a second ref doesnt happen because if the in out debate sparks up again it will be like shooting fish in a barrel.


I've learn't nothing? ........

Well I'll admit I've never been on a EU funded gravy train like yourself ......

So perhaps that is what distorted the EU view of the 17 million plus voters......Not enough gravy? .........

userBarryd999
Posted: 15 February 2019 7:53 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-02-15 7:13 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 7:07 PM

pelmetman - 2019-02-15 5:52 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 5:34 PM

malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Eh? ..........

It's you Remoaners who are scared to leave the over priced EU security blanket .........



Im not scared, Im just realistic and ive spend nearly three years studying the facts and as regards being in the EU, warts an all I can tell you, Brexit is a really really bad idea. You wouldnt know that though as you have learned nothing in those three years because you have had your head in the sand, literally it would seem. Its pointless discussing it on forums anymore and expecting what few Brexiteers are left to have any kind of sensible discussion except to educate fellow remainers in case there is a second referendum.

You best hope that a second ref doesnt happen because if the in out debate sparks up again it will be like shooting fish in a barrel.


I've learn't nothing? ........

Well I'll admit I've never been on a EU funded gravy train like yourself ......

So perhaps that is what distorted the EU view of the 17 million plus voters......Not enough gravy? .........



I was never directly employed by the EU but I have worked on projects that were either funded or part funded by the EU. Everyone of those 17 million voters have had a taste of the gravy they just dont realise it. I could direct you to a site where you can see how you and those around you have benefited from EU funding but whats the point, you wont look at it. Your going to say its our money anyway and you would be partly correct except they fund stuff in areas our government have probably never heard of. Of course post Brexit there will be none of that, just more austerity and no funding for anyone.
userBarryd999
Posted: 15 February 2019 7:56 PM
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antony1969 - 2019-02-15 5:38 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 5:34 PM

malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Nowt to do with scary monsters , though Merkel , Druncker etc etc are very scary its just that after such a long ruddy time your whinging becomes stale ... Specially when EU world is in the sh!t which you conveniently ignore ... I would say what your doing relies way more on "ignorance being bliss"


Its not just the EU thats suffering, there is a downturn on its way right on top of when we leave. You seem gleeful about this but if anything it makes our attempts to carve our own way even harder. Hows all those roll over trade deals going Foxy promised? What is it so far, some wind swept island in the north Atlantic populated by sheep?
userpelmetman
Posted: 15 February 2019 8:07 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 7:56 PM

antony1969 - 2019-02-15 5:38 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 5:34 PM

malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Nowt to do with scary monsters , though Merkel , Druncker etc etc are very scary its just that after such a long ruddy time your whinging becomes stale ... Specially when EU world is in the sh!t which you conveniently ignore ... I would say what your doing relies way more on "ignorance being bliss"


Its not just the EU thats suffering, there is a downturn on its way right on top of when we leave. You seem gleeful about this but if anything it makes our attempts to carve our own way even harder. Hows all those roll over trade deals going Foxy promised? What is it so far, some wind swept island in the north Atlantic populated by sheep?


Get over yourself Barry ........

There's a world recession coming as it has done for every decade on average ever since I was a sprog .........

But you are a first generation self employed oike in your family so I'll make allowances for your histrionics ........

userantony1969
Posted: 15 February 2019 8:07 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 7:56 PM

antony1969 - 2019-02-15 5:38 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 5:34 PM

malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Nowt to do with scary monsters , though Merkel , Druncker etc etc are very scary its just that after such a long ruddy time your whinging becomes stale ... Specially when EU world is in the sh!t which you conveniently ignore ... I would say what your doing relies way more on "ignorance being bliss"


Its not just the EU thats suffering, there is a downturn on its way right on top of when we leave. You seem gleeful about this but if anything it makes our attempts to carve our own way even harder. Hows all those roll over trade deals going Foxy promised? What is it so far, some wind swept island in the north Atlantic populated by sheep?


Im gleeful that we are leaving a dying club that aint doing anything near as good as we are and thats with us having Brexit to deal with n'all ... Those deals by the way , we aint left yet so until we leave we officially cant strike up any new deals can we ... Bring on that US deal though
userBarryd999
Posted: 15 February 2019 11:07 PM
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antony1969 - 2019-02-15 8:07 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 7:56 PM

antony1969 - 2019-02-15 5:38 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 5:34 PM

malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Nowt to do with scary monsters , though Merkel , Druncker etc etc are very scary its just that after such a long ruddy time your whinging becomes stale ... Specially when EU world is in the sh!t which you conveniently ignore ... I would say what your doing relies way more on "ignorance being bliss"


Its not just the EU thats suffering, there is a downturn on its way right on top of when we leave. You seem gleeful about this but if anything it makes our attempts to carve our own way even harder. Hows all those roll over trade deals going Foxy promised? What is it so far, some wind swept island in the north Atlantic populated by sheep?


Im gleeful that we are leaving a dying club that aint doing anything near as good as we are and thats with us having Brexit to deal with n'all ... Those deals by the way , we aint left yet so until we leave we officially cant strike up any new deals can we ... Bring on that US deal though


Not doing as good? we are loosing £800m a week compared to where we should be thanks to brexit and the recent figures are not good at all.

The existing trade deal roll overs we can negotiate before we leave. Foxy if you remember promised that all 40 of them would be ready to go by midnight on the 29th of March. He's completely fooked that one up with one windswept island in the north Atlantic so far.

If you had kept up with Brexit and recent posts on here and elsewhere you would have seen the ever growing list of demands form the US for a trade deal. I thought you wanted to "take back control". Oh dear. You should go and do some research on what awaits.



Edited by Barryd999 2019-02-15 11:08 PM
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Posted: 15 February 2019 11:34 PM
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You better hope there is not a World recession on the way Barry. Things are bad enough in a number of EU Countries (of course not the favoured few, like Germany and France), a recession might just tip them over the edge and the EU will be toast.

The EU did nothing in 2008 when recession was obvious and countries like Greece, Spain and Portugal have suffered high unemployment and austerity ever since.

To keep your credibility you need a successful EU and a poor UK outcome ...... do ya feel lucky punk?
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Posted: 16 February 2019 6:31 AM
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I've heard on the grapevine that if there's a no deal exit from the EU one of the larger supermarkets will be offering EU fans a shopping deal as a comfort blanket.
For just £500 a year they will be able to buy their groceries at the same price as the less gullible.
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Posted: 16 February 2019 6:57 AM
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Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 11:07 PM

antony1969 - 2019-02-15 8:07 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 7:56 PM

antony1969 - 2019-02-15 5:38 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 5:34 PM

malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Nowt to do with scary monsters , though Merkel , Druncker etc etc are very scary its just that after such a long ruddy time your whinging becomes stale ... Specially when EU world is in the sh!t which you conveniently ignore ... I would say what your doing relies way more on "ignorance being bliss"


Its not just the EU thats suffering, there is a downturn on its way right on top of when we leave. You seem gleeful about this but if anything it makes our attempts to carve our own way even harder. Hows all those roll over trade deals going Foxy promised? What is it so far, some wind swept island in the north Atlantic populated by sheep?


Im gleeful that we are leaving a dying club that aint doing anything near as good as we are and thats with us having Brexit to deal with n'all ... Those deals by the way , we aint left yet so until we leave we officially cant strike up any new deals can we ... Bring on that US deal though


Not doing as good? we are loosing £800m a week compared to where we should be thanks to brexit and the recent figures are not good at all.

The existing trade deal roll overs we can negotiate before we leave. Foxy if you remember promised that all 40 of them would be ready to go by midnight on the 29th of March. He's completely fooked that one up with one windswept island in the north Atlantic so far.

If you had kept up with Brexit and recent posts on here and elsewhere you would have seen the ever growing list of demands form the US for a trade deal. I thought you wanted to "take back control". Oh dear. You should go and do some research on what awaits.



Und the folk on here are ruddy experts on the list of demands for a US trade deal ... Give up ... Like Foxy lots of folk have said lots of different things when it comes to what will and wont happen regarding Brexit and lots of the stuff said has changed over the whinging period since the vote ... So what ... Im sure deals will be signed fairly quickly ... I have faith and im a positive type , you have zip faith in anything and along with your boyfriend are the most negative wingers on the internetwork
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Posted: 16 February 2019 8:56 AM
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Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



These two idiots on here are unable to read the big words and their language that of the gutter...I wouldn't bother responding to anyything they say or trying to engage with them in any way shape for form.

My view is that May will not take us out without a deal and will at the last moment put the brakes on and ask for a postponement of Article 50. I believe this is almost inevitable as all the new legeslation related to leaving is unlikely to get through both Houses of Parliament before the end of March. I believe 29th March will come and go and life will continue much as before with Brexit continuing to keep all the other disasterous Tory legeslation causing death and destruction to the poor and the sick out of the limelight. However, the Tories will be called to account by the electorate before too long both in relation to Brexit and in how they have destroyed lives and taken the poor nd the sick back to Victorian times.
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I believe 29th March will come and go and life will continue much as before with Brexit continuing to keep all the other disasterous Tory legeslation causing death and destruction to the poor and the sick out of the limelight. However, the Tories will be called to account by the electorate before too long both in relation to Brexit and in how they have destroyed lives and taken the poor nd the sick back to Victorian times.



Typical left wing Remoaner hogwash .........

BTW how's your lot doing in polls? ............

It looks to me like they ain't about to call anyone to account anytime soon .........

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Posted: 16 February 2019 9:47 AM
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Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Nowt to do with scary monsters , though Merkel , Druncker etc etc are very scary its just that after such a long ruddy time your whinging becomes stale ... Specially when EU world is in the sh!t which you conveniently ignore ... I would say what your doing relies way more on "ignorance being bliss"


Its not just the EU thats suffering, there is a downturn on its way right on top of when we leave. You seem gleeful about this but if anything it makes our attempts to carve our own way even harder. Hows all those roll over trade deals going Foxy promised? What is it so far, some wind swept island in the north Atlantic populated by sheep?


Im gleeful that we are leaving a dying club that aint doing anything near as good as we are and thats with us having Brexit to deal with n'all ... Those deals by the way , we aint left yet so until we leave we officially cant strike up any new deals can we ... Bring on that US deal though


Not doing as good? we are loosing £800m a week compared to where we should be thanks to brexit and the recent figures are not good at all.

The existing trade deal roll overs we can negotiate before we leave. Foxy if you remember promised that all 40 of them would be ready to go by midnight on the 29th of March. He's completely fooked that one up with one windswept island in the north Atlantic so far.

If you had kept up with Brexit and recent posts on here and elsewhere you would have seen the ever growing list of demands form the US for a trade deal. I thought you wanted to "take back control". Oh dear. You should go and do some research on what awaits.



Und the folk on here are ruddy experts on the list of demands for a US trade deal ... Give up ... Like Foxy lots of folk have said lots of different things when it comes to what will and wont happen regarding Brexit and lots of the stuff said has changed over the whinging period since the vote ... So what ... Im sure deals will be signed fairly quickly ... I have faith and im a positive type , you have zip faith in anything and along with your boyfriend are the most negative wingers on the internetwork


Your sure deals will be signed quickly? Why would they be when the latest desperate brainwave from your ERG chums is to just not bother with border checks and set zero tariffs. What they have overlooked is that under WTO rules if you set Zero tariffs for one you have to do it for all under favoured nation rules so why would any country want to do any kind of deal with us if we do that as they dont need one, fill yer boots as far as they are concerned although our WTO application has been rejected anyway.

As for your pals over the pond we already have a pretty good arrangement with them via the EU. Trumps list of demands as we renegotiate that is basically deregulating everything we have worked to develop throughout our EU membership from Pharmaceuticals to food to agriculture all for their benefit, not ours.

You might be interested (or not) in this post I received from Jason J Hunter last night (its a closed group so no link).


"The UK already enjoys a raft of agreements over trade with the USA thanks to our EU membership, these agreements have been signed over the past few decades. They include detailed cooperation agreements to make trade easier with the USA for EU member states.
they cover:

Intellectual Property Rights
Supply Chain Security
Investment
Raw Materials
Innovation Action Partnership: Innovation Best Practices
Bio-economy and Biobased products
E-Health
ENERGY STAR Labelling
ICT services trade related principles
SME cooperation
Cloud Computing
Nanotechnology
A Work Plan for advancing transatlantic e-mobility
cooperation
Smart Grid Interoperability Centres
Joint Research Centre on Electric Vehicles
A framework for advancing transatlantic economic integration which includes:
Fostering Cooperation and Reducing Regulatory Burdens
Lighthouse Priority Projects
A Transatlantic Economic Council
A Work Program of Cooperation
Transatlantic Legislation
Agreement between EU-US on Drug Precursors
Agreement between the EU and the United States of America on customs cooperation and mutual assistance in customs
Agreement on Early Warning Mechanism
EU-US Veterinary Equivalence Agreement
EU/US Agreement on Mutual Regoginition of Certificates of Conformity for Marine Equipment
US-EU Co-operation in the field of Metrology in support of trade
Tax Treatment for Foreign Sales Corporations

We lose all these agreements and many more (these are just a few titles of agreements that I have selected from over 28 pages of lists of cooperation and other agreements between the EU and the USA....

Who on Earth thinks that by removing all these cooperation agreements that have been negotiated over decades and enable the UK to sell 20% of all our exports to the USA that somehow we will be able to sell MORE to the USA than we did when we had all these?"


Brexit is a busted flush. Nobody who still has their brain engaged really believes otherwise.


Edited by Barryd999 2019-02-16 9:50 AM
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antony1969 - 2019-02-15 8:07 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 7:56 PM

antony1969 - 2019-02-15 5:38 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 5:34 PM

malc d - 2019-02-15 3:27 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Nowt to do with scary monsters , though Merkel , Druncker etc etc are very scary its just that after such a long ruddy time your whinging becomes stale ... Specially when EU world is in the sh!t which you conveniently ignore ... I would say what your doing relies way more on "ignorance being bliss"


Its not just the EU thats suffering, there is a downturn on its way right on top of when we leave. You seem gleeful about this but if anything it makes our attempts to carve our own way even harder. Hows all those roll over trade deals going Foxy promised? What is it so far, some wind swept island in the north Atlantic populated by sheep?


Im gleeful that we are leaving a dying club that aint doing anything near as good as we are and thats with us having Brexit to deal with n'all ... Those deals by the way , we aint left yet so until we leave we officially cant strike up any new deals can we ... Bring on that US deal though


Not doing as good? we are loosing £800m a week compared to where we should be thanks to brexit and the recent figures are not good at all.

The existing trade deal roll overs we can negotiate before we leave. Foxy if you remember promised that all 40 of them would be ready to go by midnight on the 29th of March. He's completely fooked that one up with one windswept island in the north Atlantic so far.

If you had kept up with Brexit and recent posts on here and elsewhere you would have seen the ever growing list of demands form the US for a trade deal. I thought you wanted to "take back control". Oh dear. You should go and do some research on what awaits.



Und the folk on here are ruddy experts on the list of demands for a US trade deal ... Give up ... Like Foxy lots of folk have said lots of different things when it comes to what will and wont happen regarding Brexit and lots of the stuff said has changed over the whinging period since the vote ... So what ... Im sure deals will be signed fairly quickly ... I have faith and im a positive type , you have zip faith in anything and along with your boyfriend are the most negative wingers on the internetwork


Your sure deals will be signed quickly? Why would they be when the latest desperate brainwave from your ERG chums is to just not bother with border checks and set zero tariffs. What they have overlooked is that under WTO rules if you set Zero tariffs for one you have to do it for all under favoured nation rules so why would any country want to do any kind of deal with us if we do that as they dont need one, fill yer boots as far as they are concerned although our WTO application has been rejected anyway.

As for your pals over the pond we already have a pretty good arrangement with them via the EU. Trumps list of demands as we renegotiate that is basically deregulating everything we have worked to develop throughout our EU membership from Pharmaceuticals to food to agriculture all for their benefit, not ours.

You might be interested (or not) in this post I received from Jason J Hunter last night (its a closed group so no link).


"The UK already enjoys a raft of agreements over trade with the USA thanks to our EU membership, these agreements have been signed over the past few decades. They include detailed cooperation agreements to make trade easier with the USA for EU member states.
they cover:

Intellectual Property Rights
Supply Chain Security
Investment
Raw Materials
Innovation Action Partnership: Innovation Best Practices
Bio-economy and Biobased products
E-Health
ENERGY STAR Labelling
ICT services trade related principles
SME cooperation
Cloud Computing
Nanotechnology
A Work Plan for advancing transatlantic e-mobility
cooperation
Smart Grid Interoperability Centres
Joint Research Centre on Electric Vehicles
A framework for advancing transatlantic economic integration which includes:
Fostering Cooperation and Reducing Regulatory Burdens
Lighthouse Priority Projects
A Transatlantic Economic Council
A Work Program of Cooperation
Transatlantic Legislation
Agreement between EU-US on Drug Precursors
Agreement between the EU and the United States of America on customs cooperation and mutual assistance in customs
Agreement on Early Warning Mechanism
EU-US Veterinary Equivalence Agreement
EU/US Agreement on Mutual Regoginition of Certificates of Conformity for Marine Equipment
US-EU Co-operation in the field of Metrology in support of trade
Tax Treatment for Foreign Sales Corporations

We lose all these agreements and many more (these are just a few titles of agreements that I have selected from over 28 pages of lists of cooperation and other agreements between the EU and the USA....

Who on Earth thinks that by removing all these cooperation agreements that have been negotiated over decades and enable the UK to sell 20% of all our exports to the USA that somehow we will be able to sell MORE to the USA than we did when we had all these?"


Brexit is a busted flush. Nobody who still has their brain engaged really believes otherwise.


Who says we'll be removing any of it ??? Cant we keep any of it or agreements similar ??? They may well be EU/US agreements but if both the UK and US agree they can have agreements very similar or better and more cant they ??? ... Agreements to suit two countries not 28 or 29 ... As for Brexit being a "busted flush" you need to wake up to whats happening in Europe and you seriously need to get a life fella ... If you are part of a group that sends you 28 pages of crap like that and you think you can make a difference you are mistaken ... Get a grip
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Barryd999 - 2019-02-16 9:47 AM

You might be interested (or not) in this post I received from Jason J Hunter last night (its a closed group so no link).



A closed group of Remoaners all scaring the sh*t out of each other ..........

Sounds like one of those self harming groups that sensible folk are trying to get banned .........

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Barryd999 - 2019-02-15 12:04 PM

As if any of us remainers were in any doubt. If only we could persuade Brexiteers to read this.

https://www.facebook.com/davideuantrott/posts/10157600355741002



Most impressed ( and mystified ) by your optimism that ANY links you post on here will :

A) be read

or

B) make any difference to Brexiteers.



Of course, as I Said they wont read it. Its a bit like when you think there is a crazed killer or scary monster in your house if you hide under the duvet you will be safe. Out of sight out of mind huh?

They had better hope there is no second referendum then as all this stuff will be aired in public in another in and out debate and they will have to listen then or at least the less well entrenched will. No wonder they are so against having one. Get it over the line and rely on ignorance being bliss.


Nowt to do with scary monsters , though Merkel , Druncker etc etc are very scary its just that after such a long ruddy time your whinging becomes stale ... Specially when EU world is in the sh!t which you conveniently ignore ... I would say what your doing relies way more on "ignorance being bliss"


Its not just the EU thats suffering, there is a downturn on its way right on top of when we leave. You seem gleeful about this but if anything it makes our attempts to carve our own way even harder. Hows all those roll over trade deals going Foxy promised? What is it so far, some wind swept island in the north Atlantic populated by sheep?


Im gleeful that we are leaving a dying club that aint doing anything near as good as we are and thats with us having Brexit to deal with n'all ... Those deals by the way , we aint left yet so until we leave we officially cant strike up any new deals can we ... Bring on that US deal though


Not doing as good? we are loosing £800m a week compared to where we should be thanks to brexit and the recent figures are not good at all.

The existing trade deal roll overs we can negotiate before we leave. Foxy if you remember promised that all 40 of them would be ready to go by midnight on the 29th of March. He's completely fooked that one up with one windswept island in the north Atlantic so far.

If you had kept up with Brexit and recent posts on here and elsewhere you would have seen the ever growing list of demands form the US for a trade deal. I thought you wanted to "take back control". Oh dear. You should go and do some research on what awaits.



Und the folk on here are ruddy experts on the list of demands for a US trade deal ... Give up ... Like Foxy lots of folk have said lots of different things when it comes to what will and wont happen regarding Brexit and lots of the stuff said has changed over the whinging period since the vote ... So what ... Im sure deals will be signed fairly quickly ... I have faith and im a positive type , you have zip faith in anything and along with your boyfriend are the most negative wingers on the internetwork


Your sure deals will be signed quickly? Why would they be when the latest desperate brainwave from your ERG chums is to just not bother with border checks and set zero tariffs. What they have overlooked is that under WTO rules if you set Zero tariffs for one you have to do it for all under favoured nation rules so why would any country want to do any kind of deal with us if we do that as they dont need one, fill yer boots as far as they are concerned although our WTO application has been rejected anyway.

As for your pals over the pond we already have a pretty good arrangement with them via the EU. Trumps list of demands as we renegotiate that is basically deregulating everything we have worked to develop throughout our EU membership from Pharmaceuticals to food to agriculture all for their benefit, not ours.

You might be interested (or not) in this post I received from Jason J Hunter last night (its a closed group so no link).


"The UK already enjoys a raft of agreements over trade with the USA thanks to our EU membership, these agreements have been signed over the past few decades. They include detailed cooperation agreements to make trade easier with the USA for EU member states.
they cover:

Intellectual Property Rights
Supply Chain Security
Investment
Raw Materials
Innovation Action Partnership: Innovation Best Practices
Bio-economy and Biobased products
E-Health
ENERGY STAR Labelling
ICT services trade related principles
SME cooperation
Cloud Computing
Nanotechnology
A Work Plan for advancing transatlantic e-mobility
cooperation
Smart Grid Interoperability Centres
Joint Research Centre on Electric Vehicles
A framework for advancing transatlantic economic integration which includes:
Fostering Cooperation and Reducing Regulatory Burdens
Lighthouse Priority Projects
A Transatlantic Economic Council
A Work Program of Cooperation
Transatlantic Legislation
Agreement between EU-US on Drug Precursors
Agreement between the EU and the United States of America on customs cooperation and mutual assistance in customs
Agreement on Early Warning Mechanism
EU-US Veterinary Equivalence Agreement
EU/US Agreement on Mutual Regoginition of Certificates of Conformity for Marine Equipment
US-EU Co-operation in the field of Metrology in support of trade
Tax Treatment for Foreign Sales Corporations

We lose all these agreements and many more (these are just a few titles of agreements that I have selected from over 28 pages of lists of cooperation and other agreements between the EU and the USA....

Who on Earth thinks that by removing all these cooperation agreements that have been negotiated over decades and enable the UK to sell 20% of all our exports to the USA that somehow we will be able to sell MORE to the USA than we did when we had all these?"


Brexit is a busted flush. Nobody who still has their brain engaged really believes otherwise.


Who says we'll be removing any of it ??? Cant we keep any of it or agreements similar ??? They may well be EU/US agreements but if both the UK and US agree they can have agreements very similar or better and more cant they ??? ... Agreements to suit two countries not 28 or 29 ... As for Brexit being a "busted flush" you need to wake up to whats happening in Europe and you seriously need to get a life fella ... If you are part of a group that sends you 28 pages of crap like that and you think you can make a difference you are mistaken ... Get a grip


All of it will be removed if we leave without a deal. This is the same for every single world trade deal we have. Thats what Foxy is supposed to be doing, renegotiating all those external deals but he's finding its not "the easiest deal in history". Now they are talking about zero tariffs so what incentive is there for anyone to do a deal. Trump will be rubbing his little hands together because it will all have to start again for the UK with the US and have a guess whos favour that will go in when the rest of the world isnt interested in dealing with us as we just opened the floodgates?

Im not saying Brexit wont go ahead Antony just that its busted, broke and not fit for purpose. Im part of several groups now which even include a handful of MP's. Can we make a difference? I think we have already. If nothing else they highlight stuff like the above and hold MP's to account. If there is ever a second vote people will have to listen to stuff like this but sadly like many on here they are not listening now.
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antony1969 - 2019-02-15 8:07 PM..................….

1 Im gleeful that we are leaving a dying club that aint doing anything near as good as we are and thats with us having Brexit to deal with n'all ...

2 Those deals by the way, we aint left yet so until we leave we officially cant strike up any new deals can we ...

3 Bring on that US deal though


1 If that were true, why did so many vote leave? Was it because they were doing so well, or because they weren't? It just seems an odd thing to forego the means of success in favour of no means at all.

2 No we can't. But we can sign them, so that they are ready to implement the day after Brexit day. How many have been signed?

3 You have far more faith than I do in the US under trump doing a trade deal that favours us and not the US. BTW, what, exactly, and we going to sell to the US, that we don't already sell? Bowler hats?

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