BUGL-air Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I have made a last minute decision to go to France in June but realise that my wife's passport expires 10 March 2020 but was last renewed 10 September 2009. I know this is OK by current EU rules but should we have a sudden No Deal Brexit ( extremley unlikely I know) it could be deemed invalid. Does anyone know what the position would be if I was already out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billggski Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 It's going into the eu with a nearly expired passport that could be a problem, no mention of coming back. But the whole things such a mess that I doubt if even the border force know. Why oh why did people believe those shysters like Liam Fox and Boris who said it would "the easiest negotiations ever"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJB Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 No, but why not just change it then you have no worries at all. We have International Driving Permits and Insurance Green Cards so we know there will be no last minute concerns. I believe there is a fast track renew system within the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 BUGL-air - 2019-05-15 6:46 AM I have made a last minute decision to go to France in June but realise that my wife's passport expires 10 March 2020 but was last renewed 10 September 2009. I know this is OK by current EU rules but should we have a sudden No Deal Brexit ( extremley unlikely I know) it could be deemed invalid. Does anyone know what the position would be if I was already out there? What's the worse that can happen? ;-) ........... They'll deport you :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Current UK Government advice is here https://www.gov.uk/guidance/passport-rules-for-travel-to-europe-after-brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindiboy Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 BUGL-air - 2019-05-15 6:46 AM I have made a last minute decision to go to France in June but realise that my wife's passport expires 10 March 2020 but was last renewed 10 September 2009. I know this is OK by current EU rules but should we have a sudden No Deal Brexit ( extremley unlikely I know) it could be deemed invalid. Does anyone know what the position would be if I was already out there? Strangely we are in the same boat as you, our Passports also expire next March and we are planning to head for france next week , also our Passports have 6 months added from our previous ones that were expiring,I have looked at the posted GOV web page and got the answer that it all applies from next October so I am none the wiser, we are just going to go and hope for the best. We returned from 3 months in Spain on the 27th March this year the first no Brexit date expecting mayhem at the ports but it was business as usual at the ports , and we got a Ferry booking a few days prior to our return by phone via the CCC with no problem, we actually got on our Ferry home an hour earlier than the one we were booked on, so l hope all will work as well on our return back to UK in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirehaired Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 go to France on the 4th June,do you still think we need international driving permits? I already have my green card,still have time to get the permit if I have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUGL-air Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 Many thanks for all your advice everyone. I think that I have nothing to worry about but for peace of mind I shall get the passport renewed, get a green card and IDP then I will not have this nagging at me all the time I am away. Trouble is that I am a natural born worrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 On 11 April 2019 EU leaders agreed to offer the UK an extension on Article 50 until 31 October, 2019, This extension was accepted by Theresa May. Donald Tusk, the president of the European council, said that until that deadline what happens will be in the hands of the UK. It can ratify the withdrawal agreement, and leave. It can change strategy, or it can decide to revoke Article 50 and cancel Brexit. So the UK will remain in the EU until 31 October 2019 unless the UK government decides to leave the EU before the 31 October deadline. If the UK leaves the EU without a ‘deal’ prior to 31 October 2019, then the passport-related advice on the link I provided above will (presumably) apply from the revised leaving date. But it’s highly unlikely (about as much chance as me becoming Pope) that there will be an ‘instant’ no-deal exit with minimal warning beforehand. Government advice regarding international driving permits (IDPs) and Brexit is provided here https://www.gov.uk/guidance/prepare-to-drive-in-the-eu-after-brexit#driving-licences-and-international-driving-permits with the same 31 October, 2019 deadline-date being referred to. My experience of obtaining an IDP at a local Post Office was that it was quick and easy. So if it looks like you MIGHT need one (or two!) when you are abroad, getting an IDP shortly before leaving the UK should not present any great difficulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUGL-air Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Thanks Derek, your advice matches Comfort Insurance as I have just telephoned them and asked for a Green Card and Laura advised that I do not need one before 31st October as the Certificate of Insurance acts as a Green Card until then, I think I have been worrying too much and will just go with the usual documents, as had been said, they can only deport me :-D :-D Can I also say that after 11 years of motorhoming I have only recently joined this site. I have had unfortunate experiences on other sites and am delighted with the friendly and courteous help that I have received. Many thanks. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirehaired Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Thanks for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUGL-air Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 Just a final update, we sailed through passport control with my wife's old passport without a problem. Why was I worried? Many thanks for your help. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billggski Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 My mate arrived at Dover last week with the wrong passport for his wife, after a long conversation and showing her driving licence and quoting the passport number. (As they had completed the API) she was allowed to travel, and information prepared for her return, which was time consuming and nerve wracking. But things may change https://www.gov.uk/guidance/prepare-to-drive-in-the-eu-after-brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monique.hubrechtsgm Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 When that trump blond hair London mayor takes over going away whit my money i will not amused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Sankey Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 All the leisure magazines including MMM sat on the fence before the referendum. Meanwhile the electorate has been lied to constantly. Now all the negatives are emerging and we need to voice our opinions based on the evidence before us. One thing is certain is that no one voted for what it looks like we are going to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On the other hand I CAN blame you for the inability to accept the referendum outcome and the ensuing trouble it is causing. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billggski Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 .....err, a strange comment. It's the brexit vote that's causing the problems, not the other way around If we'd not been lied to and decided to remain, none of this would have happened, why are brexiteers so afraid of a people's vote on what has (or hasn't been decided? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive_Adams Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 In my extensive experience of travelling, anywhere, in general whatever the circumstances are if you have 6 months validity or more on any passport there's no questions asked on entry. Whatever happens on prior or after 31 Oct, there is very likely to be a "grace period" on a lot of things IMHO nothing will be revoked at midnight on the same day.So what's likely to happen?, you will be given sufficient notice, and as someone said what's the worst that could happen, you'll be deported? like they know where you'll be and they will send someone round. Stop worrying and enjoy your stay in France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 747 - 2019-08-09 8:47 PM On the other hand WE CAN blame you for the inability to accept the referendum outcome and the ensuing trouble it is causing. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 747 - 2019-08-09 8:47 PM On the other hand I CAN blame you for the inability to accept the referendum outcome and the ensuing trouble it is causing. *-) Nobody is compelled to accept the result of a non-legally binding advisory referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandy Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 "Nobody is compelled to accept the result of a non-legally binding advisory referendum" .… the result of which the government promised to accept, that promise being ratified by a large majority in a Commons vote. I really don't want to get into another pointless argument where neither side will accept the other's views, but felt compelled to finish your sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindiboy Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 747 - 2019-08-09 8:47 PM On the other hand I CAN blame you for the inability to accept the referendum outcome and the ensuing trouble it is causing. *-) WELL SAID agree with you 5000% bad losers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartO Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 This thread, originally about what passport requirements, is turning into a Chatterbox-style spat about something else. Could a Moderator please freeze it now? As far as we know at present, a British passport with at least 6 months before expiry will ordinarily be OK to get into Europe after Brexit, even if it has "European Union" on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 StuartO - 2019-08-10 12:27 PM This thread, originally about what passport requirements, is turning into a Chatterbox-style spat about something else. Could a Moderator please freeze it now? As far as we know at present, a British passport with at least 6 months before expiry will ordinarily be OK to get into Europe after Brexit, even if it has "European Union" on it. Done!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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