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userJohn52
Posted: 19 February 2021 7:08 AM
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As BoJo's cronies, Tory Donors and Fraudsters, celebrate the £billions they have made out of the pandemic, Channel 4 Dispatches next Monday is to look at how we are going to pay it back.
The Dispatches I have seen so far have been pretty good.
AFAIK BoJo hasn't planted his cronies in Channel 4 yet like he has the BBC?
userJohn52
Posted: 22 February 2021 8:48 PM
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Just watched it
The size of BoJo's debt is astronomical and the programme highlighted the huge complications and difficulties of our paying it back.
Getting into Her Majesty's Tax havens and taxing the super wealthy rentiers and 'newspaper' owners supporting BoJo is off the agenda.
So increase taxes on the rest of us and choke off the recovery?
Or borrow more and use it to kickstart the economy?
Or borrow more and spaff it away to BoJo's cronies and fraudsters like what we have borrowed so far -
which will lead to hyperinflation and economic collapse
userjumpstart
Posted: 22 February 2021 9:02 PM
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Don't worry we're going to reduce Foreign Aid budget.
userJohn52
Posted: 23 February 2021 7:40 AM
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jumpstart - 2021-02-22 9:02 PM

Don't worry we're going to reduce Foreign Aid budget.


Thats not going to make much difference.

The big money is in Her Majesty's Tax havens - beyond the reach of an EU wide tax treaty now we have left the EU.
Whats left of the productive side of the economy is on its knees due to Brexit and Covid - tax rises could finish it off.
Borrowing even more to kickstart the economy is a massive gamble,
and can you trust BoJo to spend it wisely

How would you get the money to pay off BoJo's debts?
userjumpstart
Posted: 23 February 2021 7:45 AM
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Im sure Ricci will come up with something.
Whilst on this subject what do you think the EU is going to do with the black hole in their budget?
userJohn52
Posted: 23 February 2021 7:51 AM
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Market is getting jittery about BoJo paying it back
Official interest rate is still 0.1% UK but bond yields risen by 3-4 times that in the last month
https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/rates-bonds/government-bonds/uk
userJohn52
Posted: 23 February 2021 7:54 AM
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jumpstart - 2021-02-23 7:45 AM
Im sure Ricci will come up with something.


another eat out to help out the virus scam ?

jumpstart - 2021-02-23 7:45 AM
Whilst on this subject what do you think the EU is going to do with the black hole in their budget?


Pay it back from the money they are getting from English industries moving over there
.. and that divorce settlement we weren't going to pay and the Tory media has gone quiet about.

Edited by John52 2021-02-23 7:58 AM
userjumpstart
Posted: 23 February 2021 8:11 AM
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John52 - 2021-02-23 7:54 AM

jumpstart - 2021-02-23 7:45 AM
Im sure Ricci will come up with something.


another eat out to help out the virus scam ?

jumpstart - 2021-02-23 7:45 AM
Whilst on this subject what do you think the EU is going to do with the black hole in their budget?


Pay it back from the money they are getting from English industries moving over there
.. and that divorce settlement we weren't going to pay and the Tory media has gone quiet about.


Dont think you find that will even touch the sides.
userjumpstart
Posted: 23 February 2021 8:31 AM
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Have you seen the size of Italy's debt or Greece?
userpelmetman
Posted: 23 February 2021 8:37 AM
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Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........

Cant say it ever caused me any problems ...........

Plus there's a lot more of us earning a lot more money and paying a lot more tax nowadays ........

So the COVID bill just another excuse for our LOSER's to have another Bitchfest .........

userJohn52
Posted: 23 February 2021 9:10 AM
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pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM
Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........


Apparently
userJohn52
Posted: 23 February 2021 9:14 AM
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jumpstart - 2021-02-23 8:31 AM

Have you seen the size of Italy's debt or Greece?


Its not their debt we are responsible for












userpelmetman
Posted: 23 February 2021 9:16 AM
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John52 - 2021-02-23 9:14 AM

jumpstart - 2021-02-23 8:31 AM

Have you seen the size of Italy's debt or Greece?


Its not their debt we are responsible for





Not anymore .........

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userCurtainRaiser
Posted: 23 February 2021 9:27 AM
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pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM

Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........

Cant say it ever caused me any problems ...........

Plus there's a lot more of us earning a lot more money and paying a lot more tax nowadays ........



Care to direct me to where these falsehoods are available, actual statistics please.
userpepe63
Posted: 23 February 2021 10:08 AM
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John52 - 2021-02-23 9:10 AM

pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM
Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........


Apparently


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI
userCurtainRaiser
Posted: 23 February 2021 11:42 AM
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CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-23 9:27 AM

pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM

Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........

Cant say it ever caused me any problems ...........

Plus there's a lot more of us earning a lot more money and paying a lot more tax nowadays ........



Care to direct me to where these falsehoods are available, actual statistics please.


Come on Pelmet.....
userpelmetman
Posted: 23 February 2021 11:53 AM
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CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-23 11:42 AM

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-23 9:27 AM

pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM

Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........

Cant say it ever caused me any problems ...........

Plus there's a lot more of us earning a lot more money and paying a lot more tax nowadays ........



Care to direct me to where these falsehoods are available, actual statistics please.


Come on Pelmet.....


Here you go .........It's in the Daily Bumwipe so it must be true ........

https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2020/nov/20/uk-national-debt-october-borrowing-covid-19-retail-sales-ftse-business-live

BTW I was born in 58.........So as I said our debt is the same now as it was when I was born ........

A decent honest bloke would apologise when he's falsely accused someone of spreading falsehoods ........

So I wont expect any apologies .............
userCurtainRaiser
Posted: 23 February 2021 12:02 PM
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pelmetman - 2021-02-23 11:53 AM

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-23 11:42 AM

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-23 9:27 AM

pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM

Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........

Cant say it ever caused me any problems ...........

Plus there's a lot more of us earning a lot more money and paying a lot more tax nowadays ........



Care to direct me to where these falsehoods are available, actual statistics please.


Come on Pelmet.....


Here you go .........It's in the Daily Bumwipe so it must be true ........

https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2020/nov/20/uk-national-debt-october-borrowing-covid-19-retail-sales-ftse-business-live

BTW I was born in 58.........So as I said our debt is the same now as it was when I was born ........

A decent honest bloke would apologise when he's falsely accused someone of spreading falsehoods ........

So I wont expect any apologies .............


From your original post "Plus there's a lot more of us earning a lot more money and paying a lot more tax nowadays ...."

Nothing in the Gruniad about that? So where are those statistics?

usermalc d
Posted: 23 February 2021 12:05 PM
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pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM

Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........

Cant say it ever caused me any problems ...........




If we had a Labour government I assume you would describe the debt as a massive problem - fortunately this time it's a Tory debt, so all is well.


userpepe63
Posted: 23 February 2021 12:13 PM
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So,after years of "..we're the 5th largest economy...blah blah...they need us, more than we need them.." etc etc , we are now at the point where we are supposed to be lauding the fact that the UK has a similar level of debt now, as it did over 60+ years ago?!
( back when the country in general was still pretty much on it's knees, and rebuilding after 6 years of war? ,there was still rationing 'tl the mid 50s ffs!)

How on earth is this supposed to be seen as a good thing?

(..yeah..but look how skint Greece is....) really?
userpelmetman
Posted: 23 February 2021 12:15 PM
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CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-23 12:02 PM

pelmetman - 2021-02-23 11:53 AM

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-23 11:42 AM

CurtainRaiser - 2021-02-23 9:27 AM

pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM

Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........

Cant say it ever caused me any problems ...........

Plus there's a lot more of us earning a lot more money and paying a lot more tax nowadays ........



Care to direct me to where these falsehoods are available, actual statistics please.


Come on Pelmet.....


Here you go .........It's in the Daily Bumwipe so it must be true ........

https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2020/nov/20/uk-national-debt-october-borrowing-covid-19-retail-sales-ftse-business-live

BTW I was born in 58.........So as I said our debt is the same now as it was when I was born ........

A decent honest bloke would apologise when he's falsely accused someone of spreading falsehoods ........

So I wont expect any apologies .............


From your original post "Plus there's a lot more of us earning a lot more money and paying a lot more tax nowadays ...."

Nothing in the Gruniad about that? So where are those statistics?



As expected no apolgogy ......

UK population 1958.......51,754,667.........average wage £9.25 a week......

UK population 2020.......67,000,000.........average wage £586 a week.......

Do der maffs CowPat ..........

userpelmetman
Posted: 23 February 2021 12:18 PM
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malc d - 2021-02-23 12:05 PM

pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM

Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........

Cant say it ever caused me any problems ...........




If we had a Labour government I assume you would describe the debt as a massive problem - fortunately this time it's a Tory debt, so all is well.




The difference is this debt was caused by a Pandemic ...........

Labour manages to create massive debts all on their own .........



Edited by pelmetman 2021-02-23 12:18 PM
userBulletguy
Posted: 23 February 2021 12:26 PM
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pepe63 - 2021-02-23 10:08 AM

John52 - 2021-02-23 9:10 AM

pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM
Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........


Apparently


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI

Brilliant.....written for all DM nutjobs.
userCurtainRaiser
Posted: 23 February 2021 12:27 PM
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pelmetman - 2021-02-23 12:15 PM

As expected no apolgogy ......

UK population 1958.......51,754,667.........average wage £9.25 a week......

UK population 2020.......67,000,000.........average wage £586 a week.......

Do der maffs CowPat ..........



And the tax take - because that is what you said had increased "and paying a lot more tax nowadays"?

userBulletguy
Posted: 23 February 2021 12:30 PM
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pepe63 - 2021-02-23 12:13 PM

So,after years of "..we're the 5th largest economy...blah blah...they need us, more than we need them.." etc etc , we are now at the point where we are supposed to be lauding the fact that the UK has a similar level of debt now, as it did over 60+ years ago?!
( back when the country in general was still pretty much on it's knees, and rebuilding after 6 years of war? ,there was still rationing 'tl the mid 50s ffs!)

How on earth is this supposed to be seen as a good thing?

(..yeah..but look how skint Greece is....) really?

Well skewered.....he's squirming now.
userBulletguy
Posted: 23 February 2021 12:32 PM
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pelmetman - 2021-02-23 12:18 PM

malc d - 2021-02-23 12:05 PM

pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM

Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........

Cant say it ever caused me any problems ...........




If we had a Labour government I assume you would describe the debt as a massive problem - fortunately this time it's a Tory debt, so all is well.




The difference is this debt was caused by a Pandemic ...........

Labour manages to create massive debts all on their own .........




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usermalc d
Posted: 23 February 2021 12:35 PM
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pelmetman - 2021-02-23 12:18 PM

malc d - 2021-02-23 12:05 PM

pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM

Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........

Cant say it ever caused me any problems ...........




If we had a Labour government I assume you would describe the debt as a massive problem - fortunately this time it's a Tory debt, so all is well.




The difference is this debt was caused by a Pandemic ...........

Labour manages to create massive debts all on their own .........




A massive debt is a massive debt.

It doesn't matter what it's for - you still have the same problem paying it back.

userpelmetman
Posted: 23 February 2021 12:51 PM
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malc d - 2021-02-23 12:35 PM

pelmetman - 2021-02-23 12:18 PM

malc d - 2021-02-23 12:05 PM

pelmetman - 2021-02-23 8:37 AM

Apparently our debt mountain is back to where it was when I was born .........

Cant say it ever caused me any problems ...........




If we had a Labour government I assume you would describe the debt as a massive problem - fortunately this time it's a Tory debt, so all is well.




The difference is this debt was caused by a Pandemic ...........

Labour manages to create massive debts all on their own .........




A massive debt is a massive debt.

It doesn't matter what it's for - you still have the same problem paying it back.



Not when you have a dynamic economy just raring to go ...........

userpelmetman
Posted: 23 February 2021 12:56 PM
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pepe63 - 2021-02-23 12:13 PM

So,after years of "..we're the 5th largest economy...blah blah...they need us, more than we need them.." etc etc , we are now at the point where we are supposed to be lauding the fact that the UK has a similar level of debt now, as it did over 60+ years ago?!
( back when the country in general was still pretty much on it's knees, and rebuilding after 6 years of war? ,there was still rationing 'tl the mid 50s ffs!)

How on earth is this supposed to be seen as a good thing?

(..yeah..but look how skint Greece is....) really?


I've obviously got you LOSERS on a rolling boil if you've Popped up ..........

So who's said its a good thing? ........

I'm just putting it into perspective .......

Which is something you LOSERS lost in June 2016 ..........



userCurtainRaiser
Posted: 23 February 2021 1:00 PM
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pelmetman - 2021-02-23 12:15 PM

As expected no apolgogy ......

UK population 1958.......51,754,667.........average wage £9.25 a week......

UK population 2020.......67,000,000.........average wage £586 a week.......

Do der maffs CowPat ..........



And the tax take - because that is what you said had increased "and paying a lot more tax nowadays"?



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