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Posted: 11 March 2019 7:05 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-11 6:42 PM...……………….
1 So you are peddling FAKE NEWS by saying the referendum was illegal ...........

2 I note you're not bothered by Cameron using 9 million of taxpayers money to unfairly influence the result ..............

1 Nope, I'm repeating what the Electoral Commission (EC) has said. Based on that, what I have said is that there is suspicion of electoral fraud which, if proved, would be illegal.

They are currently investigating the funding of the leave campaign, as there is evidence that at least some of its sources were illegal. So, declaring anything illegal at present would be premature. You really don't get this legal stuff, do you?

There has first to be reasonable grounds for suspicion. Tick. Then the grounds have to be investigated. Tick Based on the outcome, there has to be a review of the evidence to see if there is a case to be brought. No tick yet. If there is a case, it has to be tried. No tick yet. If it is tried, and is proved, it can then be said that the acts were illegal. No tick yet. All the EC is saying at the moment is that they smell a rat.

2 If there is evidence that the government used excessive funding, or used foreign funds, I would expect the EC to investigate that in exactly the same way as they are investigating the leave campaign funding. But, it would make no difference to the end result because, whichever side was found to have acted fraudulently, the referendum result would be suspect and, with any luck, void.
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Posted: 11 March 2019 7:10 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-11 6:42 PM...……………….
1 So you are peddling FAKE NEWS by saying the referendum was illegal ...........

2 I note you're not bothered by Cameron using 9 million of taxpayers money to unfairly influence the result ..............

1 Nope, I'm repeating what the Electoral Commission (EC) has said. Based on that, what I have said is that there is suspicion of electoral fraud which, if proved, would be illegal.

They are currently investigating the funding of the leave campaign, as there is evidence that at least some of its sources were illegal. So, declaring anything illegal at present would be premature. You really don't get this legal stuff, do you?

There has first to be reasonable grounds for suspicion. Tick. Then the grounds have to be investigated. Tick Based on the outcome, there has to be a review of the evidence to see if there is a case to be brought. No tick yet. If there is a case, it has to be tried. No tick yet. If it is tried, and is proved, it can then be said that the acts were illegal. No tick yet. All the EC is saying at the moment is that they smell a rat.

2 If there is evidence that the government used excessive funding, or used foreign funds, I would expect the EC to investigate that in exactly the same way as they are investigating the leave campaign funding. But, it would make no difference to the end result because, whichever side was found to have acted fraudulently, the referendum result would be suspect and, with any luck, void.


1........So you cant show where the EC has said "the 2016 referendum is illegal" can you? .......

2........The Remoaner biased EC investigate our Remoaner biased government? ........

There's more chance of them finding Unicorn sh*te .........

userViolet1956
Posted: 11 March 2019 7:12 PM
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No Dave I say that there was nothing unlawful about the 9m spent on the government leaflet because it is fact.

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Posted: 11 March 2019 8:30 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-11 7:10 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-03-11 7:05 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-11 6:42 PM...……………….
1 So you are peddling FAKE NEWS by saying the referendum was illegal ...........

2 I note you're not bothered by Cameron using 9 million of taxpayers money to unfairly influence the result ..............

1 Nope, I'm repeating what the Electoral Commission (EC) has said. Based on that, what I have said is that there is suspicion of electoral fraud which, if proved, would be illegal.

They are currently investigating the funding of the leave campaign, as there is evidence that at least some of its sources were illegal. So, declaring anything illegal at present would be premature. You really don't get this legal stuff, do you?

There has first to be reasonable grounds for suspicion. Tick. Then the grounds have to be investigated. Tick Based on the outcome, there has to be a review of the evidence to see if there is a case to be brought. No tick yet. If there is a case, it has to be tried. No tick yet. If it is tried, and is proved, it can then be said that the acts were illegal. No tick yet. All the EC is saying at the moment is that they smell a rat.

2 If there is evidence that the government used excessive funding, or used foreign funds, I would expect the EC to investigate that in exactly the same way as they are investigating the leave campaign funding. But, it would make no difference to the end result because, whichever side was found to have acted fraudulently, the referendum result would be suspect and, with any luck, void.


1........So you cant show where the EC has said "the 2016 referendum is illegal" can you? .......

You're clutching out for a lifebelt with pathetic pedantry instead of comprehending Brians very clear explanation.
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Posted: 12 March 2019 12:41 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-11 6:42 PM...……………….
1 So you are peddling FAKE NEWS by saying the referendum was illegal ...........

2 I note you're not bothered by Cameron using 9 million of taxpayers money to unfairly influence the result ..............

1 Nope, I'm repeating what the Electoral Commission (EC) has said. Based on that, what I have said is that there is suspicion of electoral fraud which, if proved, would be illegal.

They are currently investigating the funding of the leave campaign, as there is evidence that at least some of its sources were illegal. So, declaring anything illegal at present would be premature. You really don't get this legal stuff, do you?

There has first to be reasonable grounds for suspicion. Tick. Then the grounds have to be investigated. Tick Based on the outcome, there has to be a review of the evidence to see if there is a case to be brought. No tick yet. If there is a case, it has to be tried. No tick yet. If it is tried, and is proved, it can then be said that the acts were illegal. No tick yet. All the EC is saying at the moment is that they smell a rat.

2 If there is evidence that the government used excessive funding, or used foreign funds, I would expect the EC to investigate that in exactly the same way as they are investigating the leave campaign funding. But, it would make no difference to the end result because, whichever side was found to have acted fraudulently, the referendum result would be suspect and, with any luck, void.


1........So you cant show where the EC has said "the 2016 referendum is illegal" can you? .......

You're clutching out for a lifebelt with pathetic pedantry instead of comprehending Brians very clear explanation.


I take it you cant show where the EC says the referendum was illegal either? ............

So you've been caught out peddling FAKE NEWS yet again .........

Only 17 scaremongering days to go ...........

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Posted: 12 March 2019 1:44 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-12 12:41 PM

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pelmetman - 2019-03-11 7:10 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-03-11 7:05 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-11 6:42 PM...……………….
1 So you are peddling FAKE NEWS by saying the referendum was illegal ...........

2 I note you're not bothered by Cameron using 9 million of taxpayers money to unfairly influence the result ..............

1 Nope, I'm repeating what the Electoral Commission (EC) has said. Based on that, what I have said is that there is suspicion of electoral fraud which, if proved, would be illegal.

They are currently investigating the funding of the leave campaign, as there is evidence that at least some of its sources were illegal. So, declaring anything illegal at present would be premature. You really don't get this legal stuff, do you?

There has first to be reasonable grounds for suspicion. Tick. Then the grounds have to be investigated. Tick Based on the outcome, there has to be a review of the evidence to see if there is a case to be brought. No tick yet. If there is a case, it has to be tried. No tick yet. If it is tried, and is proved, it can then be said that the acts were illegal. No tick yet. All the EC is saying at the moment is that they smell a rat.

2 If there is evidence that the government used excessive funding, or used foreign funds, I would expect the EC to investigate that in exactly the same way as they are investigating the leave campaign funding. But, it would make no difference to the end result because, whichever side was found to have acted fraudulently, the referendum result would be suspect and, with any luck, void.


1........So you cant show where the EC has said "the 2016 referendum is illegal" can you? .......

You're clutching out for a lifebelt with pathetic pedantry instead of comprehending Brians very clear explanation.


I take it you cant show where the EC says the referendum was illegal either? ............

Drop the silly pedantry and read Brians points 1 and 2 plus bear in mind Banks is still under criminal investigation by the NCA.
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Posted: 12 March 2019 2:51 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-11 7:10 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-03-11 7:05 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-11 6:42 PM...……………….
1 So you are peddling FAKE NEWS by saying the referendum was illegal ...........

2 I note you're not bothered by Cameron using 9 million of taxpayers money to unfairly influence the result ..............

1 Nope, I'm repeating what the Electoral Commission (EC) has said. Based on that, what I have said is that there is suspicion of electoral fraud which, if proved, would be illegal.

They are currently investigating the funding of the leave campaign, as there is evidence that at least some of its sources were illegal. So, declaring anything illegal at present would be premature. You really don't get this legal stuff, do you?

There has first to be reasonable grounds for suspicion. Tick. Then the grounds have to be investigated. Tick Based on the outcome, there has to be a review of the evidence to see if there is a case to be brought. No tick yet. If there is a case, it has to be tried. No tick yet. If it is tried, and is proved, it can then be said that the acts were illegal. No tick yet. All the EC is saying at the moment is that they smell a rat.

2 If there is evidence that the government used excessive funding, or used foreign funds, I would expect the EC to investigate that in exactly the same way as they are investigating the leave campaign funding. But, it would make no difference to the end result because, whichever side was found to have acted fraudulently, the referendum result would be suspect and, with any luck, void.


1........So you cant show where the EC has said "the 2016 referendum is illegal" can you? .......

You're clutching out for a lifebelt with pathetic pedantry instead of comprehending Brians very clear explanation.


I take it you cant show where the EC says the referendum was illegal either? ............

Drop the silly pedantry and read Brians points 1 and 2 plus bear in mind Banks is still under criminal investigation by the NCA.


PROVE ME WRONG DUMB DUMB ...........

By linking or copying from the EC website where they state that the EU referendum in 2016 was illegal? ........

You cant can you because you have been caught out spreading FAKE NEWS ........

BTW has Banks been charged yet? ........there's only 17 days to go ........



Edited by pelmetman 2019-03-12 2:54 PM
userBrian Kirby
Posted: 12 March 2019 6:29 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-11 7:10 PM
Brian Kirby - 2019-03-11 7:05 PM
pelmetman - 2019-03-11 6:42 PM...……………….
1 So you are peddling FAKE NEWS by saying the referendum was illegal ...........
2 I note you're not bothered by Cameron using 9 million of taxpayers money to unfairly influence the result ..............

1 Nope, I'm repeating what the Electoral Commission (EC) has said. Based on that, what I have said is that there is suspicion of electoral fraud which, if proved, would be illegal.
They are currently investigating the funding of the leave campaign, as there is evidence that at least some of its sources were illegal. So, declaring anything illegal at present would be premature. You really don't get this legal stuff, do you?
There has first to be reasonable grounds for suspicion. Tick. Then the grounds have to be investigated. Tick Based on the outcome, there has to be a review of the evidence to see if there is a case to be brought. No tick yet. If there is a case, it has to be tried. No tick yet. If it is tried, and is proved, it can then be said that the acts were illegal. No tick yet. All the EC is saying at the moment is that they smell a rat.
2 If there is evidence that the government used excessive funding, or used foreign funds, I would expect the EC to investigate that in exactly the same way as they are investigating the leave campaign funding. But, it would make no difference to the end result because, whichever side was found to have acted fraudulently, the referendum result would be suspect and, with any luck, void.

1........So you cant show where the EC has said "the 2016 referendum is illegal" can you? .......
2........The Remoaner biased EC investigate our Remoaner biased government? ........
There's more chance of them finding Unicorn sh*te .........

1 But as I pointed out, I have not made that claim, so how could I give evidence for something I haven't said? Can you think of some other things that I havent said, that I would be unable to prove? Is there a point?
2 How you choose to portray the EC and the government, or whatever names you call them, will not alter the outcomes of the investigations, will it?

I note you haven't been looking at the EC website to find the evidence you are asking others to provide for you. Why not? It isn't difficult, and it's very revealing! Just like the rest of us, you'll have to wait and see what happens. Its getting interesting, though!
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Posted: 12 March 2019 6:46 PM
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I note you haven't been looking at the EC website to find the evidence you are asking others to provide for you. Why not? It isn't difficult, and it's very revealing! Just like the rest of us, you'll have to wait and see what happens. Its getting interesting, though!


Oh yes I have .............and I cant find anywhere where it states ....."The EU Referendum was ILLEGAL" ..........

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Posted: 12 March 2019 6:46 PM
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I agree with the above .............



Edited by pelmetman 2019-03-12 6:49 PM
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Posted: 12 March 2019 6:59 PM
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I note you haven't been looking at the EC website to find the evidence you are asking others to provide for you. Why not? It isn't difficult, and it's very revealing! Just like the rest of us, you'll have to wait and see what happens. Its getting interesting, though!

Oh yes I have .............and I cant find anywhere where it states ....."The EU Referendum was ILLEGAL" ..........

But, as I keep telling you, it won't say that because the investigations are not yet complete. This is the UK, not the wild west!

We tend to gather evidence, evaluate it, bring charges, and try people - before finding them guilty. Can't imagine why, but think it may have something to with the rule of law. But then, you aren't in favour of that, are you? Odd!
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Posted: 12 March 2019 7:07 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2019-03-12 6:29 PM
I note you haven't been looking at the EC website to find the evidence you are asking others to provide for you. Why not? It isn't difficult, and it's very revealing! Just like the rest of us, you'll have to wait and see what happens. Its getting interesting, though!

Oh yes I have .............and I cant find anywhere where it states ....."The EU Referendum was ILLEGAL" ..........

But, as I keep telling you, it won't say that because the investigations are not yet complete. This is the UK, not the wild west!

We tend to gather evidence, evaluate it, bring charges, and try people - before finding them guilty. Can't imagine why, but think it may have something to with the rule of law. But then, you aren't in favour of that, are you? Odd!


Did you just write that Brian????? ............

You lot decided Banks was guilty years ago ..........

Still no sign of him being charged though .........

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Posted: 13 March 2019 12:01 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-12 7:07 PM....................Did you just write that Brian????? ............
You lot decided Banks was guilty years ago ..........
Still no sign of him being charged though .........

I think you are confusing opinion with legal process.
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Posted: 13 March 2019 2:22 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2019-03-12 6:59 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-12 6:46 PM
Brian Kirby - 2019-03-12 6:29 PM
I note you haven't been looking at the EC website to find the evidence you are asking others to provide for you. Why not? It isn't difficult, and it's very revealing! Just like the rest of us, you'll have to wait and see what happens. Its getting interesting, though!

Oh yes I have .............and I cant find anywhere where it states ....."The EU Referendum was ILLEGAL" ..........

But, as I keep telling you, it won't say that because the investigations are not yet complete. This is the UK, not the wild west!

We tend to gather evidence, evaluate it, bring charges, and try people - before finding them guilty. Can't imagine why, but think it may have something to with the rule of law. But then, you aren't in favour of that, are you? Odd!

Processing logic with a bloke who voted Brexit because he wants to "think he's British" is a futile task.
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Posted: 13 March 2019 2:53 PM
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Can we all agree that it's time to rename Remain & Leave?
I suggest Right & Wrong.
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Posted: 14 March 2019 11:14 AM
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I found the link to the full written judgement of Court of Appeal in the Wilson case dated 4.3.2019 for anyone who wants to read it and hasn't found it themselves.

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2019/304.html


In short it was not established that the referendum was illegal or that it had been shown that the illegalites identified by the Law Commision were material in relation to the outcome. Just as importantly perhaps the Court saw the challenge through the courts as "politics by other means" and that it was inappropriate for the Courts to interfere with the political process. Parliament had taken control of Brexit and it is parliament that has the inalienable right to make its own decision about whether the Law Commision's findings should be a consideration in its decisions on how and if Brexit should go ahead.

Can't see that leave to appeal to the Supreme Court was requested by those acting for Wilson et al.

Enemies of the people eh? I think not.
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Posted: 14 March 2019 11:23 AM
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The actual Act



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Posted: 14 March 2019 11:29 AM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-14 11:23 AM

The actual Act


Sorry FP does this refer to my post or another one? I can't work it out.

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Posted: 14 March 2019 12:52 PM
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I get it now that you have posted the terms of the Referendum Bill. No reply needed FP. Thanks.
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Posted: 15 March 2019 8:34 AM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-14 11:23 AM

The actual Act


So you have a problem with the government carrying out the will of the people? ..........

How very Stalinist ........

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Fast Pat - 2019-03-14 11:23 AM

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So you have a problem with the government carrying out the will of the people? ..........

How very Stalinist ........


No I have a problem with liars like yourself, who say it was a legally binding referendum when it wasn't.
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Posted: 15 March 2019 9:01 AM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-14 11:23 AM

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So you have a problem with the government carrying out the will of the people? ..........

How very Stalinist ........


No I have a problem with liars like yourself, who say it was a legally binding referendum when it wasn't.


So you don't have a problem with the government carrying out the will of the people? ........

Because all your bleating on here would indicate the opposite ......Comrade .......

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Posted: 15 March 2019 6:21 PM
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So you have a problem with the government carrying out the will of the people? ..........
How very Stalinist ........

No, but some of us find calling the opinion of 37% of the people "the will of the people" deliciously Stalinist! Joe would be really proud of you Comrade!
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-14 11:23 AM
The actual Act

So you have a problem with the government carrying out the will of the people? ..........
How very Stalinist ........

No, but some of us find calling the opinion of 37% of the people "the will of the people" deliciously Stalinist! Joe would be really proud of you Comrade!


A turn out of 72% - higher than in many General Election and most certainly higher than any European Election.

I wonder how many of those who voted Remain were Irish Citizens?

How many who voted Remain ever voted in a European Parliament Election? Given that the turnout in the 2014 election was only 32.6%, not many.

I have to admit to being responsible for one of the spoiled votes in 2016. I honestly could not decide so decided to spoil my vote and go along with the majority decision.

Whether the Referendum was advisory or not and whether it was illegal is now irrelevant. Parliament voted to instigate Article 50, so like it or not, it is now Law.
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So you have a problem with the government carrying out the will of the people? ..........
How very Stalinist ........

No, but some of us find calling the opinion of 37% of the people "the will of the people" deliciously Stalinist! Joe would be really proud of you Comrade!


A turn out of 72% - higher than in many General Election and most certainly higher than any European Election.

I wonder how many of those who voted Remain were Irish Citizens?

How many who voted Remain ever voted in a European Parliament Election? Given that the turnout in the 2014 election was only 32.6%, not many.

I have to admit to being responsible for one of the spoiled votes in 2016. I honestly could not decide so decided to spoil my vote and go along with the majority decision.

Whether the Referendum was advisory or not and whether it was illegal is now irrelevant. Parliament voted to instigate Article 50, so like it or not, it is now Law.

That still won't alter the 37% Leave figure i'm afraid Pam. Brexiters incessant parroting of "will of the people" would be more honest if they began saying they want to see "the will of 37% of the electorate honoured"......but that doesn't quite have the same 'appeal' does it?

That percent figure will also now have undoubtedly decreased due to the time gap which has brought more first time voters in who couldn't vote at the time of the referendum, not to mention the vast devastation we've seen post referendum with businesses relocating and the countries economy trashed. This was why a peoples vote was always feared by Brexiters as they saw their "win" (because that's all what was important to them....'we won, you losers lost, get over it' etc) was in serious peril.

I'm surprised to see you feel the legality which is still under scrutiny, as 'irrelevant'. If guilt of meddling and wrong doings is found proven i could never be comfortable in knowing democracy had been subverted by external 'interference' to achieve a political aim.

A50 can be revoked which is still a major worry for Brexiters. https://tinyurl.com/y5h8jguz
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Posted: 16 March 2019 7:40 AM
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So you have a problem with the government carrying out the will of the people? ..........
How very Stalinist ........

No, but some of us find calling the opinion of 37% of the people "the will of the people" deliciously Stalinist! Joe would be really proud of you Comrade!


So if 37% of the people win a "Losers Vote" you wont claim to have won? ...........

Of course you will .............

Because Remoaners are 100% full fat Hypocrites .........

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Posted: 16 March 2019 1:04 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-15 8:34 AM
Fast Pat - 2019-03-14 11:23 AM
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So you have a problem with the government carrying out the will of the people? ..........
How very Stalinist ........

No, but some of us find calling the opinion of 37% of the people "the will of the people" deliciously Stalinist! Joe would be really proud of you Comrade!

So if 37% of the people win a "Losers Vote" you wont claim to have won? ...........
Of course you will .............
Because Remoaners are 100% full fat Hypocrites .........

Not much point in asking a question, and then giving the answer, is there/? Especially when you get the answer wrong.

I'm not interested in "winning", and have no desire to gloat and parade my tiny "victory" as a way to annoy those who voted to leave. There are more important things in life.

If Brexit is reversed, it will be the whole United Kingdom (including Brexiters) that "wins", and probably our shattered political system as well.
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Posted: 16 March 2019 4:00 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-16 7:40 AM
Brian Kirby - 2019-03-15 6:21 PM
pelmetman - 2019-03-15 8:34 AM
Fast Pat - 2019-03-14 11:23 AM
The actual Act

So you have a problem with the government carrying out the will of the people? ..........
How very Stalinist ........

No, but some of us find calling the opinion of 37% of the people "the will of the people" deliciously Stalinist! Joe would be really proud of you Comrade!

So if 37% of the people win a "Losers Vote" you wont claim to have won? ...........
Of course you will .............
Because Remoaners are 100% full fat Hypocrites .........

Not much point in asking a question, and then giving the answer, is there/? Especially when you get the answer wrong.

I'm not interested in "winning", and have no desire to gloat and parade my tiny "victory" as a way to annoy those who voted to leave. There are more important things in life.

If Brexit is reversed, it will be the whole United Kingdom (including Brexiters) that "wins", and probably our shattered political system as well.


Oh how very hypocritical of you ........

So you'd claim the moral high ground using the same pathetic excuses with which you have used tp lambaste the Brexiteers victory .......

You really are quite shameless aintcha Brian? .........

userBrian Kirby
Posted: 16 March 2019 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: 2016 referendum was illegal
 


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pelmetman - 2019-03-16 4:00 PM
Brian Kirby - 2019-03-16 1:04 PM
pelmetman - 2019-03-16 7:40 AM
Brian Kirby - 2019-03-15 6:21 PM
pelmetman - 2019-03-15 8:34 AM
Fast Pat - 2019-03-14 11:23 AM
The actual Act

So you have a problem with the government carrying out the will of the people? ..........
How very Stalinist ........

No, but some of us find calling the opinion of 37% of the people "the will of the people" deliciously Stalinist! Joe would be really proud of you Comrade!

So if 37% of the people win a "Losers Vote" you wont claim to have won? ...........
Of course you will .............
Because Remoaners are 100% full fat Hypocrites .........

Not much point in asking a question, and then giving the answer, is there/? Especially when you get the answer wrong.
I'm not interested in "winning", and have no desire to gloat and parade my tiny "victory" as a way to annoy those who voted to leave. There are more important things in life.
If Brexit is reversed, it will be the whole United Kingdom (including Brexiters) that "wins", and probably our shattered political system as well.

Oh how very hypocritical of you ........
So you'd claim the moral high ground using the same pathetic excuses with which you have used tp lambaste the Brexiteers victory .......
You really are quite shameless aintcha Brian? .........

Hypocrisy? What "hypocrisy"? Lambaste the Brexiteer's "victory"? How? Where is the "shame" in wanting the whole UK to benefit from an economically sensible decision? What is good about inflicting economic loss on an entire country? In pursuit of what? Imaginary fears?
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Posted: 16 March 2019 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: 2016 referendum was illegal
 


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Brian Kirby - 2019-03-16 4:58 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-16 4:00 PM
Brian Kirby - 2019-03-16 1:04 PM
pelmetman - 2019-03-16 7:40 AM
Brian Kirby - 2019-03-15 6:21 PM
pelmetman - 2019-03-15 8:34 AM
Fast Pat - 2019-03-14 11:23 AM
The actual Act

So you have a problem with the government carrying out the will of the people? ..........
How very Stalinist ........

No, but some of us find calling the opinion of 37% of the people "the will of the people" deliciously Stalinist! Joe would be really proud of you Comrade!

So if 37% of the people win a "Losers Vote" you wont claim to have won? ...........
Of course you will .............
Because Remoaners are 100% full fat Hypocrites .........

Not much point in asking a question, and then giving the answer, is there/? Especially when you get the answer wrong.
I'm not interested in "winning", and have no desire to gloat and parade my tiny "victory" as a way to annoy those who voted to leave. There are more important things in life.
If Brexit is reversed, it will be the whole United Kingdom (including Brexiters) that "wins", and probably our shattered political system as well.

Oh how very hypocritical of you ........
So you'd claim the moral high ground using the same pathetic excuses with which you have used tp lambaste the Brexiteers victory .......
You really are quite shameless aintcha Brian? .........

Hypocrisy? What "hypocrisy"? Lambaste the Brexiteer's "victory"? How? Where is the "shame" in wanting the whole UK to benefit from an economically sensible decision? What is good about inflicting economic loss on an entire country? In pursuit of what? Imaginary fears?


Cobblers Brian ..........

If that's the case why is the UK doing better than Germany......IN SPITE OF BREXIT ? .......

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