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Barryd999 - 2019-02-06 3:05 PM

 

Hes right so can you all go off to hell on your own and leave us folk here who havent lost their marbles behind please? Off you F*ck! :D

 

I'm on my way B-) ...........

 

Dont wanna be in the UK when the "Lettuce Riots" kick off :D ..........

 

 

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Bulletguy - 2019-02-06 5:32 PM

 

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/06/theresa-may-seeks-brexit-breakthrough-dup-saying-will-not-scrap/

 

Anywhere gotta be better than the EU >:-) ..........

Coming from the poster who spends half the year every year in Spain!! *-)

 

So say's Comrade Bullet who spends his time in right wing Eastern European countries (lol) .........

 

When he's not reading about Soviet spy's :D ........

 

I bet you miss the olden days in the Gulag? ;-) ........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2019-02-06 5:35 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2019-02-06 5:32 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-02-06 1:43 PM

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/06/theresa-may-seeks-brexit-breakthrough-dup-saying-will-not-scrap/

 

Anywhere gotta be better than the EU >:-) ..........

Coming from the poster who spends half the year every year in Spain!! *-)

 

So say's Comrade Bullet who spends his time in right wing Eastern European countries (lol) ........

As a Remain voter i value and support my freedom of movement and the benefits the EU has given me over the years. You want to end that.........but not for yourself. That's hypocrisy as has been pointed out to you by other fm's on here. Even our Belgian poster was astounded at your hypocrisy.

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antony1969 - 2019-02-06 7:14 PM

 

Talking of special places in hell ... His Nazi grandfather once had similar visions of taking over Europe ... https://tigr.net/3161/2014/09/05/grandson-of-a-nazi-ss-member-to-head-eu-from-december-1/ ... Nice

 

You need to be a bit more subtle, that's a right wing Russian blogger that you've linked to. Your dear friend Trump will not thank you for exposing his masters and their attempt to undermine the EU so carelessly,

 

A more balanced view "A member of the Kashubian minority, Józef Tusk was born in Gdansk (Danzig, German Empire) to Józef Tusk (1870–1910)[1] and Augustyna Tusk (née Adamczyk; 1870–1962).[2] He became a citizen of the Free City of Danzig after World War I and worked for the Polish railway in the Free City.[3][4] He became a member of the Polish Secret Military Organization (Tajna Organizacja Wojskowa, TOW), which prepared behind-the-lines operatives in case of the war. On 1 September 1938 Tusk was placed in the position of the telegraphist in the Danzig (Gdansk) railway station. It is likely, but not confirmed, that he had been working with the Polish intelligence services.[5] On 1 September 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, the Free City of Danzig was incorporated into the German Reich and the citizens of the Free City became German nationals. Tusk was assaulted in his house in the morning, and later witnessed German arrests of Poles at the railway station, and the Defence of the Polish Post in Danzig.[5]

 

Józef Tusk reported the assault to Danzig police, and was subsequently arrested as a Polish activist, described as a "Polish fanatic, dangerous to the security of the German State"; his family on the same day was evicted from their house.[5] Tusk was a forced laborer working in the construction of the Stutthof concentration camp[5][6] In 1941 he was interviewed by Gestapo and imprisoned in Neuengamme concentration camp.[7] On 26 August 1942 he was released from Neuengamme.[7]

 

On 2 August 1944 Tusk was conscripted into Wehrmacht, into the 328. Grenadier-Ersatz- und Ausbildungsbatallion (328th Grenadier Replacement and Training Battalion).[7][8][9] After about four months, around 24 November 1944 or soon afterward, he either deserted, defecting to the Polish Armed Forces in the West, or was imprisoned in an Allied prisoners-of-war camp.[10][11]

 

Józef Tusk returned to Sopot, where his family moved to, in the People's Republic of Poland, in mid-October 1945.[11] According to his family and friends, he never spoke much about his wartime history."

 

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What could go wrong ... The last time those words were used were by crackpot Madeleine Albright when showing support for Presidential cert Billary Quinton ... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/madeleine-albright-campaigns-for-hillary-clinton ... Maybe old son of a son of a Nazi old Tusky could do worse than taking note ... Mind I think hes done more for the case for leaving with his comments than a thousand Farage words could
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Fast Pat - 2019-02-06 7:42 PM

 

antony1969 - 2019-02-06 7:14 PM

 

Talking of special places in hell ... His Nazi grandfather once had similar visions of taking over Europe ... https://tigr.net/3161/2014/09/05/grandson-of-a-nazi-ss-member-to-head-eu-from-december-1/ ... Nice

 

You need to be a bit more subtle, that's a right wing Russian blogger that you've linked to. Your dear friend Trump will not thank you for exposing his masters and their attempt to undermine the EU so carelessly,

 

A more balanced view "A member of the Kashubian minority, Józef Tusk was born in Gdansk (Danzig, German Empire) to Józef Tusk (1870–1910)[1] and Augustyna Tusk (née Adamczyk; 1870–1962).[2] He became a citizen of the Free City of Danzig after World War I and worked for the Polish railway in the Free City.[3][4] He became a member of the Polish Secret Military Organization (Tajna Organizacja Wojskowa, TOW), which prepared behind-the-lines operatives in case of the war. On 1 September 1938 Tusk was placed in the position of the telegraphist in the Danzig (Gdansk) railway station. It is likely, but not confirmed, that he had been working with the Polish intelligence services.[5] On 1 September 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, the Free City of Danzig was incorporated into the German Reich and the citizens of the Free City became German nationals. Tusk was assaulted in his house in the morning, and later witnessed German arrests of Poles at the railway station, and the Defence of the Polish Post in Danzig.[5]

 

Józef Tusk reported the assault to Danzig police, and was subsequently arrested as a Polish activist, described as a "Polish fanatic, dangerous to the security of the German State"; his family on the same day was evicted from their house.[5] Tusk was a forced laborer working in the construction of the Stutthof concentration camp[5][6] In 1941 he was interviewed by Gestapo and imprisoned in Neuengamme concentration camp.[7] On 26 August 1942 he was released from Neuengamme.[7]

 

On 2 August 1944 Tusk was conscripted into Wehrmacht, into the 328. Grenadier-Ersatz- und Ausbildungsbatallion (328th Grenadier Replacement and Training Battalion).[7][8][9] After about four months, around 24 November 1944 or soon afterward, he either deserted, defecting to the Polish Armed Forces in the West, or was imprisoned in an Allied prisoners-of-war camp.[10][11]

 

Józef Tusk returned to Sopot, where his family moved to, in the People's Republic of Poland, in mid-October 1945.[11] According to his family and friends, he never spoke much about his wartime history."

 

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Like I said he served and fought for the Nazis ... From Wikipedia

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antony1969 - 2019-02-06 7:42 PM

 

What could go wrong ... The last time those words were used were by crackpot Madeleine Albright when showing support for Presidential cert Billary Quinton ... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/madeleine-albright-campaigns-for-hillary-clinton ... Maybe old son of a son of a Nazi old Tusky could do worse than taking note ... Mind I think hes done more for the case for leaving with his comments than a thousand Farage words could

 

What he actually said was there was a special place in hell for politicians who promoted Brexit without even a sketch of a plan. He did not say it was for those poor unfortunates who believed those politicians.

 

But for the record could you please tell me which politicians you believed and more importantly what their plan was?

 

 

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antony1969 - 2019-02-06 7:42 PM

 

What could go wrong ... The last time those words were used were by crackpot Madeleine Albright when showing support for Presidential cert Billary Quinton ... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/madeleine-albright-campaigns-for-hillary-clinton ... Maybe old son of a son of a Nazi old Tusky could do worse than taking note ... Mind I think hes done more for the case for leaving with his comments than a thousand Farage words could

 

He was a carpenters son from Gdansk, he grew up with tanks and gun battles on his street. He ran with anti communist gangs and was imprisoned by the Soviets. On his release he fought for autonomy for Poland where he went on to be prime minister.

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antony1969 - 2019-02-06 7:46 PM

 

Fast Pat - 2019-02-06 7:42 PM

 

antony1969 - 2019-02-06 7:14 PM

 

Talking of special places in hell ... His Nazi grandfather once had similar visions of taking over Europe ... https://tigr.net/3161/2014/09/05/grandson-of-a-nazi-ss-member-to-head-eu-from-december-1/ ... Nice

 

You need to be a bit more subtle, that's a right wing Russian blogger that you've linked to. Your dear friend Trump will not thank you for exposing his masters and their attempt to undermine the EU so carelessly,

 

A more balanced view "A member of the Kashubian minority, Józef Tusk was born in Gdansk (Danzig, German Empire) to Józef Tusk (1870–1910)[1] and Augustyna Tusk (née Adamczyk; 1870–1962).[2] He became a citizen of the Free City of Danzig after World War I and worked for the Polish railway in the Free City.[3][4] He became a member of the Polish Secret Military Organization (Tajna Organizacja Wojskowa, TOW), which prepared behind-the-lines operatives in case of the war. On 1 September 1938 Tusk was placed in the position of the telegraphist in the Danzig (Gdansk) railway station. It is likely, but not confirmed, that he had been working with the Polish intelligence services.[5] On 1 September 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, the Free City of Danzig was incorporated into the German Reich and the citizens of the Free City became German nationals. Tusk was assaulted in his house in the morning, and later witnessed German arrests of Poles at the railway station, and the Defence of the Polish Post in Danzig.[5]

 

Józef Tusk reported the assault to Danzig police, and was subsequently arrested as a Polish activist, described as a "Polish fanatic, dangerous to the security of the German State"; his family on the same day was evicted from their house.[5] Tusk was a forced laborer working in the construction of the Stutthof concentration camp[5][6] In 1941 he was interviewed by Gestapo and imprisoned in Neuengamme concentration camp.[7] On 26 August 1942 he was released from Neuengamme.[7]

 

On 2 August 1944 Tusk was conscripted into Wehrmacht, into the 328. Grenadier-Ersatz- und Ausbildungsbatallion (328th Grenadier Replacement and Training Battalion).[7][8][9] After about four months, around 24 November 1944 or soon afterward, he either deserted, defecting to the Polish Armed Forces in the West, or was imprisoned in an Allied prisoners-of-war camp.[10][11]

 

Józef Tusk returned to Sopot, where his family moved to, in the People's Republic of Poland, in mid-October 1945.[11] According to his family and friends, he never spoke much about his wartime history."

 

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Like I said he served and fought for the Nazis ... From Wikipedia

Forced conscription and given his background history it's pretty obvious his sympathies did not lie in Nazism, not to mention he only served in the Wehrmacht for four months. Even many Germans who fought in war were not Nazis either. There's a vast difference between the two.

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Fast Pat - 2019-02-06 7:59 PM

 

antony1969 - 2019-02-06 7:42 PM

 

What could go wrong ... The last time those words were used were by crackpot Madeleine Albright when showing support for Presidential cert Billary Quinton ... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/madeleine-albright-campaigns-for-hillary-clinton ... Maybe old son of a son of a Nazi old Tusky could do worse than taking note ... Mind I think hes done more for the case for leaving with his comments than a thousand Farage words could

 

What he actually said was there was a special place in hell for politicians who promoted Brexit without even a sketch of a plan. He did not say it was for those poor unfortunates who believed those politicians.

 

But for the record could you please tell me which politicians you believed and more importantly what their plan was?

Yes having just listened to what he said in it's entirety on Channel 4 news, it's quite different to what the Brexit bandwagon is pumping out!

 

Context is everything!

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Bulletguy - 2019-02-06 8:24 PM

 

antony1969 - 2019-02-06 7:46 PM

 

Fast Pat - 2019-02-06 7:42 PM

 

antony1969 - 2019-02-06 7:14 PM

 

Talking of special places in hell ... His Nazi grandfather once had similar visions of taking over Europe ... https://tigr.net/3161/2014/09/05/grandson-of-a-nazi-ss-member-to-head-eu-from-december-1/ ... Nice

 

You need to be a bit more subtle, that's a right wing Russian blogger that you've linked to. Your dear friend Trump will not thank you for exposing his masters and their attempt to undermine the EU so carelessly,

 

A more balanced view "A member of the Kashubian minority, Józef Tusk was born in Gdansk (Danzig, German Empire) to Józef Tusk (1870–1910)[1] and Augustyna Tusk (née Adamczyk; 1870–1962).[2] He became a citizen of the Free City of Danzig after World War I and worked for the Polish railway in the Free City.[3][4] He became a member of the Polish Secret Military Organization (Tajna Organizacja Wojskowa, TOW), which prepared behind-the-lines operatives in case of the war. On 1 September 1938 Tusk was placed in the position of the telegraphist in the Danzig (Gdansk) railway station. It is likely, but not confirmed, that he had been working with the Polish intelligence services.[5] On 1 September 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, the Free City of Danzig was incorporated into the German Reich and the citizens of the Free City became German nationals. Tusk was assaulted in his house in the morning, and later witnessed German arrests of Poles at the railway station, and the Defence of the Polish Post in Danzig.[5]

 

Józef Tusk reported the assault to Danzig police, and was subsequently arrested as a Polish activist, described as a "Polish fanatic, dangerous to the security of the German State"; his family on the same day was evicted from their house.[5] Tusk was a forced laborer working in the construction of the Stutthof concentration camp[5][6] In 1941 he was interviewed by Gestapo and imprisoned in Neuengamme concentration camp.[7] On 26 August 1942 he was released from Neuengamme.[7]

 

On 2 August 1944 Tusk was conscripted into Wehrmacht, into the 328. Grenadier-Ersatz- und Ausbildungsbatallion (328th Grenadier Replacement and Training Battalion).[7][8][9] After about four months, around 24 November 1944 or soon afterward, he either deserted, defecting to the Polish Armed Forces in the West, or was imprisoned in an Allied prisoners-of-war camp.[10][11]

 

Józef Tusk returned to Sopot, where his family moved to, in the People's Republic of Poland, in mid-October 1945.[11] According to his family and friends, he never spoke much about his wartime history."

 

From Wikipedia

 

Like I said he served and fought for the Nazis ... From Wikipedia

Forced conscription and given his background history it's pretty obvious his sympathies did not lie in Nazism, not to mention he only served in the Wehrmacht for four months. Even many Germans who fought in war were not Nazis either. There's a vast difference between the two.

 

He fought for the Nazis like I said ... I don't see whats so difficult

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antony1969 - 2019-02-07 6:35 AM

 

Sir Nigel as ever sums up Tusks disgraceful words perfectly ...

... xxx

 

Nope, he just exposes the genius of Donald Tusk. To be offended by his tweet, you have to admit to not having a plan for delivering Brexit, despite promoting it to the British people with lots of empty promises. You can't be offended without proving yourself ignorant at best, fraudulent at worst.

 

 

P.S. I'm still waiting for you to confirm who you believed and what their plan was?

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antony1969 - 2019-02-07 6:19 AM

 

Bulletguy - 2019-02-06 8:24 PM

 

antony1969 - 2019-02-06 7:46 PM

 

Fast Pat - 2019-02-06 7:42 PM

 

antony1969 - 2019-02-06 7:14 PM

 

Talking of special places in hell ... His Nazi grandfather once had similar visions of taking over Europe ... https://tigr.net/3161/2014/09/05/grandson-of-a-nazi-ss-member-to-head-eu-from-december-1/ ... Nice

 

You need to be a bit more subtle, that's a right wing Russian blogger that you've linked to. Your dear friend Trump will not thank you for exposing his masters and their attempt to undermine the EU so carelessly,

 

A more balanced view "A member of the Kashubian minority, Józef Tusk was born in Gdansk (Danzig, German Empire) to Józef Tusk (1870–1910)[1] and Augustyna Tusk (née Adamczyk; 1870–1962).[2] He became a citizen of the Free City of Danzig after World War I and worked for the Polish railway in the Free City.[3][4] He became a member of the Polish Secret Military Organization (Tajna Organizacja Wojskowa, TOW), which prepared behind-the-lines operatives in case of the war. On 1 September 1938 Tusk was placed in the position of the telegraphist in the Danzig (Gdansk) railway station. It is likely, but not confirmed, that he had been working with the Polish intelligence services.[5] On 1 September 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, the Free City of Danzig was incorporated into the German Reich and the citizens of the Free City became German nationals. Tusk was assaulted in his house in the morning, and later witnessed German arrests of Poles at the railway station, and the Defence of the Polish Post in Danzig.[5]

 

Józef Tusk reported the assault to Danzig police, and was subsequently arrested as a Polish activist, described as a "Polish fanatic, dangerous to the security of the German State"; his family on the same day was evicted from their house.[5] Tusk was a forced laborer working in the construction of the Stutthof concentration camp[5][6] In 1941 he was interviewed by Gestapo and imprisoned in Neuengamme concentration camp.[7] On 26 August 1942 he was released from Neuengamme.[7]

 

On 2 August 1944 Tusk was conscripted into Wehrmacht, into the 328. Grenadier-Ersatz- und Ausbildungsbatallion (328th Grenadier Replacement and Training Battalion).[7][8][9] After about four months, around 24 November 1944 or soon afterward, he either deserted, defecting to the Polish Armed Forces in the West, or was imprisoned in an Allied prisoners-of-war camp.[10][11]

 

Józef Tusk returned to Sopot, where his family moved to, in the People's Republic of Poland, in mid-October 1945.[11] According to his family and friends, he never spoke much about his wartime history."

 

From Wikipedia

 

Like I said he served and fought for the Nazis ... From Wikipedia

Forced conscription and given his background history it's pretty obvious his sympathies did not lie in Nazism, not to mention he only served in the Wehrmacht for four months. Even many Germans who fought in war were not Nazis either. There's a vast difference between the two.

 

He fought for the Nazis like I said ... I don't see whats so difficult

Not difficult......when his back history shows his allegiance lay with Poland, his country of birth, not Germany who had invaded his country. "Fought for the Nazis" appears a damning condemnation whilst totally ignoring factual reality of his back history. Using that vague expression means you'd be saying men like Eddie Chapman, 'fought for the Nazis'.....the only British to be awarded the Iron Cross.

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antony1969 - 2019-02-07 6:35 AM

 

Nigel as ever sums up Tusks disgraceful words perfectly ...

... xxx

Glad to see Farage has reacted as he's precisely one of those Tusks comments were aimed at, and rightly so too.

 

This was what Donald Tusk actually said and is quoted verbatim rather than the distortions being put out.

 

"By the way, i've been wondering what that special place in Hell looks like for those who promoted Brexit without even a sketch of a plan to carry it safely"

 

Funny that those who promoted Brexit didn't kick off when Johnson and Tory MEP Syed Kamall compared the EU to Hitler and Nazism, but throw their toys out the pram when Tusk states a harsh truth.....that they never had a plan to carry it through safely.

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Fast Pat - 2019-02-07 6:52 AM

 

antony1969 - 2019-02-07 6:35 AM

 

Sir Nigel as ever sums up Tusks disgraceful words perfectly ...

... xxx

 

Nope, he just exposes the genius of Donald Tusk. To be offended by his tweet, you have to admit to not having a plan for delivering Brexit, despite promoting it to the British people with lots of empty promises. You can't be offended without proving yourself ignorant at best, fraudulent at worst.

 

 

P.S. I'm still waiting for you to confirm who you believed and what their plan was?

 

The only thing Tusk has exposed is how bitter and twisted the EU is about losing a major meal ticket >:-) ........

 

 

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Brian Kirby - 2019-02-06 8:55 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-02-06 1:43 PM

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/06/theresa-may-seeks-brexit-breakthrough-dup-saying-will-not-scrap/

 

Anywhere gotta be better than the EU >:-) ..........

Problem is, Tusk was merely speaking the inconvenient truth. Telling like it is.

 

How do you know? ;-) ...........We haven't left yet :D ........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2019-02-07 3:28 PM

 

The only thing Tusk has exposed is how bitter and twisted the EU is about losing a major meal ticket >:-) ........

 

If you are worried about the cost, how do you feel about paying more to Northern Ireland than we paid to the EU?

 

Who do we export more to again?

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pelmetman - 2019-02-07 3:28 PM

 

The only thing Tusk has exposed is how bitter and twisted the EU is about losing a major meal ticket >:-) ........

 

If you are worried about the cost, how do you feel about paying more to Northern Ireland than we paid to the EU?

 

Who do we export more to again?

 

With a bit of luck a No Deal will solve that conundrum ;-) ..............

 

Just gotta get the Scots to vote for Independence then we'll be quids in :-> .......

 

As for the second question ........That'll be the rest of the world B-) ........

 

UK exports to non EU countries continue to outstrip EU

UK exports of goods and services to the rest of the world were higher than UK exports to the EU for ninth year running, ONS figures published today (Tuesday 31 July) confirm.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-exports-to-non-eu-countries-continue-to-outstrip-eu

 

That EU is Soooo yesterday :D .........

 

 

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