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userBulletguy
Posted: 6 February 2019 5:45 PM
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Labour has officially called for an extension of Article 50. About time too though better still, revoke it which would be a damn sight better than creating any further damage.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-labour-delay-article-50-extension-theresa-may-emily-thornberry-pmqs-a8765656.html
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Posted: 6 February 2019 5:52 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-02-06 5:45 PM


Labour has officially called for an extension of Article 50. About time too though better still, revoke it which would be a damn sight better than creating any further damage.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-labour-delay-article-50-extension-theresa-may-emily-thornberry-pmqs-a8765656.html


If thats an official call then wow ... Old white van lover Thornberry merely asked if TM agreed or not ... At least it seems Thonberry has more ball$ than absent anti-Semite Corbyn
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Posted: 16 March 2019 10:56 AM
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Well this aged well....
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Posted: 16 March 2019 1:17 PM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-16 10:56 AM

Well this aged well....

The number of Leave voters like this lady are growing; https://tinyurl.com/y5uowuh7
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Posted: 16 March 2019 2:27 PM
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I think actually even if we now don’t get round to leaving ,so much damage has been done to the Eu by us and other countries and the Eu themselves that things are going to change. Which is what I wanted in the first place, but at the time the Eu refused to do.
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Posted: 16 March 2019 2:57 PM
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jumpstart - 2019-03-16 2:27 PM

I think actually even if we now don’t get round to leaving ,so much damage has been done to the Eu by us and other countries and the Eu themselves that things are going to change. Which is what I wanted in the first place, but at the time the Eu refused to do.

We've damaged our own country much more but yes, changes will certainly come about within the EU. Much better to have been at that table of negotiation with a voice than cast adrift as the pariah state without a voice.
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Posted: 16 March 2019 3:42 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-03-16 2:57 PM

jumpstart - 2019-03-16 2:27 PM

I think actually even if we now don’t get round to leaving ,so much damage has been done to the Eu by us and other countries and the Eu themselves that things are going to change. Which is what I wanted in the first place, but at the time the Eu refused to do.

We've damaged our own country much more but yes, changes will certainly come about within the EU. Much better to have been at that table of negotiation with a voice than cast adrift as the pariah state without a voice.


Cant say I'd wanna be at the table where my opinion is totally ignored, yet I'm still expected to pick up the tab ........

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Posted: 16 March 2019 4:33 PM
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Perhaps if they had votes proportional to your countries contribution with the lowest number for net receivers, we wouldn’t have been ignored so much.
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Posted: 16 March 2019 5:59 PM
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jumpstart - 2019-03-16 4:33 PM

Perhaps if they had votes proportional to your countries contribution with the lowest number for net receivers, we wouldn’t have been ignored so much.


Sadly the EU has become a Socialist biased institution .........

Much like the UK's establishment .......

Brexit is only the start of a very long haul ........



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Posted: 16 March 2019 6:42 PM
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jumpstart - 2019-03-16 4:33 PM
Perhaps if they had votes proportional to your countries contribution with the lowest number for net receivers, we wouldn’t have been ignored so much.

Really? Look here: http://tinyurl.com/zndsndd

Even if you want to quibble here and there, it can't all be wrong, can it?

Do you have similar evidence to back your claim?
userpelmetman
Posted: 16 March 2019 6:50 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2019-03-16 6:42 PM

jumpstart - 2019-03-16 4:33 PM
Perhaps if they had votes proportional to your countries contribution with the lowest number for net receivers, we wouldn’t have been ignored so much.

Really? Look here: http://tinyurl.com/zndsndd

Even if you want to quibble here and there, it can't all be wrong, can it?

Do you have similar evidence to back your claim?


C'mon Brian.......surely you're still not trying to peddle that myth that "OUR" EU lackey's are NOT EU biased .......

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Posted: 16 March 2019 7:32 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2019-03-16 6:42 PM

jumpstart - 2019-03-16 4:33 PM
Perhaps if they had votes proportional to your countries contribution with the lowest number for net receivers, we wouldn’t have been ignored so much.

Really? Look here: http://tinyurl.com/zndsndd

Even if you want to quibble here and there, it can't all be wrong, can it?

Do you have similar evidence to back your claim?



Well actually I wasn’t referring to Acts in the Eu parliament, and most of what are described as” wins” for Britain are actually part of the reason I voted leave. Our government has been drifting away from what 52% of the population seems to want ,which is why they were so surprised they didn’t win.ie stay. I was talking about veto power to nations .
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Posted: 16 March 2019 11:37 PM
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jumpstart - 2019-03-16 2:27 PM

I think actually even if we now don’t get round to leaving ,so much damage has been done to the Eu by us and other countries and the Eu themselves that things are going to change. Which is what I wanted in the first place, but at the time the Eu refused to do.


I agree. Certainly the Franco/German influence on how to run the EU is in tatters. Ms Merkel is in a weaker position and Macron is as popular as dog poo on a carpet.
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Posted: 18 March 2019 4:10 PM
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Speaker bans May from bringing back the same deal

"The House of Commons Speaker, John Bercow, has said the government cannot bring back the meaningful vote again to parliament unless there has been substantial change to the Brexit deal.

In a shock move likely to infuriate the prime minister, the Speaker said the House of Commons was “being repeatedly asked to pronounce” on the same question.

Quoting from the guide to parliamentary procedure, Erskine May, Bercow said that by convention, the question “may not be brought forward again during the same session” and that it was a “strong and longstanding convention” dating back to 1604.

“Decisions of the house matter. They have weight,” he said. “It is a necessary rule to ensure the sensible use of the house’s time and the proper respect for the decisions which it takes.”

Bercow said the second meaningful vote motion held last week did not fall foul of the convention, because it “could credibly argued it was a different proposition” to that rejected on 15 January 15 because of changes the government considered to be legally binding.

“If the government was to bring forward a new proposition that is neither the same, nor substantially the same as disposed of by 10 March, this would be entirely in order,” he said, but said it could not be “the same proposition or substantially the same proposition”
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Posted: 18 March 2019 4:16 PM
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Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........

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Posted: 18 March 2019 4:18 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:16 PM

Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........



Looks like we'll be revoking A50.

By the way the convention that Bercow is referring to dates back to 1604. Jacob Rees-Mogg says he opposed it then and he will oppose it again now.
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Posted: 18 March 2019 4:22 PM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:18 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:16 PM

Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........



Looks like we'll be revoking A50.

By the way the convention that Bercow is referring to dates back to 1604. Jacob Rees-Mogg says he opposed it then and he will oppose it again now.


Do you really think politicians in Brexit voting constituencies will press the Nuclear Button? .........

Cant say I'm bothered .........

I'm prepared for a war of attrition ........

As it'll suite my current life style ........

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Posted: 18 March 2019 4:25 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:22 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:18 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:16 PM

Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........



Looks like we'll be revoking A50.

By the way the convention that Bercow is referring to dates back to 1604. Jacob Rees-Mogg says he opposed it then and he will oppose it again now.


Do you really think politicians in Brexit voting constituencies will press the Nuclear Button? .........

Cant say I'm bothered .........

I'm prepared for a war of attrition ........

As it'll suite my current life style ........



No, on reflection what will come back is May's deal with a Peoples Vote amendment attached, her deal versus remain as the HoC has already ruled out no deal.

I'm happy with that.
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Posted: 18 March 2019 4:33 PM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:25 PM

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Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:18 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:16 PM

Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........



Looks like we'll be revoking A50.

By the way the convention that Bercow is referring to dates back to 1604. Jacob Rees-Mogg says he opposed it then and he will oppose it again now.


Do you really think politicians in Brexit voting constituencies will press the Nuclear Button? .........

Cant say I'm bothered .........

I'm prepared for a war of attrition ........

As it'll suite my current life style ........



No, on reflection what will come back is May's deal with a Peoples Vote amendment attached, her deal versus remain as the HoC has already ruled out no deal.

I'm happy with that.


So you're happy with trying to change the minds of folk like me? ...........

Good luck with that ......

BTW .......You'll need more than 37% to win the war .......

userFast Pat
Posted: 18 March 2019 4:39 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:33 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:25 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:22 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:18 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:16 PM

Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........



Looks like we'll be revoking A50.

By the way the convention that Bercow is referring to dates back to 1604. Jacob Rees-Mogg says he opposed it then and he will oppose it again now.


Do you really think politicians in Brexit voting constituencies will press the Nuclear Button? .........

Cant say I'm bothered .........

I'm prepared for a war of attrition ........

As it'll suite my current life style ........



No, on reflection what will come back is May's deal with a Peoples Vote amendment attached, her deal versus remain as the HoC has already ruled out no deal.

I'm happy with that.


So you're happy with trying to change the minds of folk like me? ...........

Good luck with that ......

BTW .......You'll need more than 37% to win the war .......



More than happy to let people vote on what is now available. So given the choice will you vote for May's deal turning us into a vassal state or remain?
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Posted: 18 March 2019 4:53 PM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:18 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:16 PM

Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........



Looks like we'll be revoking A50.

By the way the convention that Bercow is referring to dates back to 1604. Jacob Rees-Mogg says he opposed it then and he will oppose it again now.

Steady on now.....that would be the sensible thing to do and common sense is still in short supply at the moment! After all, Brexits economist said leaving the EU would “mostly eliminate UK manufacturing” yet 60 folk have been trudging through windswept rain sodden Middlesborough today to support that.

Edited by Bulletguy 2019-03-18 4:53 PM
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Posted: 18 March 2019 4:58 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:33 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:25 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:22 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:18 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:16 PM

Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........



Looks like we'll be revoking A50.

By the way the convention that Bercow is referring to dates back to 1604. Jacob Rees-Mogg says he opposed it then and he will oppose it again now.


Do you really think politicians in Brexit voting constituencies will press the Nuclear Button? .........

Cant say I'm bothered .........

I'm prepared for a war of attrition ........

As it'll suite my current life style ........



No, on reflection what will come back is May's deal with a Peoples Vote amendment attached, her deal versus remain as the HoC has already ruled out no deal.

I'm happy with that.


So you're happy with trying to change the minds of folk like me? ...........

A tree surgeon with chainsaw prepared to do your lobotomy would easily be sourced.
userpelmetman
Posted: 18 March 2019 7:15 PM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:39 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:33 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:25 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:22 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:18 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:16 PM

Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........



Looks like we'll be revoking A50.

By the way the convention that Bercow is referring to dates back to 1604. Jacob Rees-Mogg says he opposed it then and he will oppose it again now.


Do you really think politicians in Brexit voting constituencies will press the Nuclear Button? .........

Cant say I'm bothered .........

I'm prepared for a war of attrition ........

As it'll suite my current life style ........



No, on reflection what will come back is May's deal with a Peoples Vote amendment attached, her deal versus remain as the HoC has already ruled out no deal.

I'm happy with that.


So you're happy with trying to change the minds of folk like me? ...........

Good luck with that ......

BTW .......You'll need more than 37% to win the war .......



More than happy to let people vote on what is now available. So given the choice will you vote for May's deal turning us into a vassal state or remain?


Knowing that the Catholics out number the Protestants in NI ...........

That vassal state is unlikely to survive very long ............

userpelmetman
Posted: 18 March 2019 7:18 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-03-18 4:58 PM

A tree surgeon with chainsaw prepared to do your lobotomy would easily be sourced.


Where as a tube of Preparation H would sort yours ..........

Other hemorrhoid preparations are available ..........

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Posted: 18 March 2019 7:32 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-18 7:15 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:39 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:33 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:25 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:22 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:18 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:16 PM

Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........



Looks like we'll be revoking A50.

By the way the convention that Bercow is referring to dates back to 1604. Jacob Rees-Mogg says he opposed it then and he will oppose it again now.


Do you really think politicians in Brexit voting constituencies will press the Nuclear Button? .........

Cant say I'm bothered .........

I'm prepared for a war of attrition ........

As it'll suite my current life style ........



No, on reflection what will come back is May's deal with a Peoples Vote amendment attached, her deal versus remain as the HoC has already ruled out no deal.

I'm happy with that.


So you're happy with trying to change the minds of folk like me? ...........

Good luck with that ......

BTW .......You'll need more than 37% to win the war .......



More than happy to let people vote on what is now available. So given the choice will you vote for May's deal turning us into a vassal state or remain?


Knowing that the Catholics out number the Protestants in NI ...........

That vassal state is unlikely to survive very long ............



Now I've explained to you before, try to keep up. Yes the Catholic population will outnumber the Protestants by 2021/22. But it will be a further 18 years before that population will be able to vote.

So is it remain or for a vassal state for the next twenty years that you're going to vote for?
userpelmetman
Posted: 18 March 2019 7:36 PM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 7:32 PM

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Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:39 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:33 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:25 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:22 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:18 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:16 PM

Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........



Looks like we'll be revoking A50.

By the way the convention that Bercow is referring to dates back to 1604. Jacob Rees-Mogg says he opposed it then and he will oppose it again now.


Do you really think politicians in Brexit voting constituencies will press the Nuclear Button? .........

Cant say I'm bothered .........

I'm prepared for a war of attrition ........

As it'll suite my current life style ........



No, on reflection what will come back is May's deal with a Peoples Vote amendment attached, her deal versus remain as the HoC has already ruled out no deal.

I'm happy with that.


So you're happy with trying to change the minds of folk like me? ...........

Good luck with that ......

BTW .......You'll need more than 37% to win the war .......



More than happy to let people vote on what is now available. So given the choice will you vote for May's deal turning us into a vassal state or remain?


Knowing that the Catholics out number the Protestants in NI ...........

That vassal state is unlikely to survive very long ............



Now I've explained to you before, try to keep up. Yes the Catholic population will outnumber the Protestants by 2021/22. But it will be a further 18 years before that population will be able to vote.

So is it remain or for a vassal state for the next twenty years that you're going to vote for?


You've obviously done the same maths course as Mzzz Abbot .......

Because you forgot about all those Remoaner losers like yourself ........



Edited by pelmetman 2019-03-18 7:39 PM
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Posted: 18 March 2019 8:49 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-18 7:36 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 7:32 PM

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Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:39 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:33 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:25 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:22 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:18 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:16 PM

Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........



Looks like we'll be revoking A50.

By the way the convention that Bercow is referring to dates back to 1604. Jacob Rees-Mogg says he opposed it then and he will oppose it again now.


Do you really think politicians in Brexit voting constituencies will press the Nuclear Button? .........

Cant say I'm bothered .........

I'm prepared for a war of attrition ........

As it'll suite my current life style ........



No, on reflection what will come back is May's deal with a Peoples Vote amendment attached, her deal versus remain as the HoC has already ruled out no deal.

I'm happy with that.


So you're happy with trying to change the minds of folk like me? ...........

Good luck with that ......

BTW .......You'll need more than 37% to win the war .......



More than happy to let people vote on what is now available. So given the choice will you vote for May's deal turning us into a vassal state or remain?


Knowing that the Catholics out number the Protestants in NI ...........

That vassal state is unlikely to survive very long ............



Now I've explained to you before, try to keep up. Yes the Catholic population will outnumber the Protestants by 2021/22. But it will be a further 18 years before that population will be able to vote.

So is it remain or for a vassal state for the next twenty years that you're going to vote for?


You've obviously done the same maths course as Mzzz Abbot .......

Because you forgot about all those Remoaner losers like yourself ........



So now you're suggesting that Protestants that voted remain in NI will vote for reunification? And your source for this political segmentation insight?
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Posted: 18 March 2019 8:54 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-03-18 4:58 PM

A tree surgeon with chainsaw prepared to do your lobotomy would easily be sourced.


Where as a tube of Preparation H would sort yours ..........

Other hemorrhoid preparations are available ..........

Put your Beano away and progress to some Look and Learn.
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Posted: 18 March 2019 9:09 PM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 8:49 PM

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Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:39 PM

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Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:25 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:22 PM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-18 4:18 PM

pelmetman - 2019-03-18 4:16 PM

Looks like a No Deal then ........Seeing as that's the only "legal" other option .........



Looks like we'll be revoking A50.

By the way the convention that Bercow is referring to dates back to 1604. Jacob Rees-Mogg says he opposed it then and he will oppose it again now.


Do you really think politicians in Brexit voting constituencies will press the Nuclear Button? .........

Cant say I'm bothered .........

I'm prepared for a war of attrition ........

As it'll suite my current life style ........



No, on reflection what will come back is May's deal with a Peoples Vote amendment attached, her deal versus remain as the HoC has already ruled out no deal.

I'm happy with that.


So you're happy with trying to change the minds of folk like me? ...........

Good luck with that ......

BTW .......You'll need more than 37% to win the war .......



More than happy to let people vote on what is now available. So given the choice will you vote for May's deal turning us into a vassal state or remain?


Knowing that the Catholics out number the Protestants in NI ...........

That vassal state is unlikely to survive very long ............



Now I've explained to you before, try to keep up. Yes the Catholic population will outnumber the Protestants by 2021/22. But it will be a further 18 years before that population will be able to vote.

So is it remain or for a vassal state for the next twenty years that you're going to vote for?


You've obviously done the same maths course as Mzzz Abbot .......

Because you forgot about all those Remoaner losers like yourself ........



So now you're suggesting that Protestants that voted remain in NI will vote for reunification? And your source for this political segmentation insight?


Nope I'm suggesting the non religious EU sycophants will vote for reunification .......

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