Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 So much winning, £100,000,000 of British Taxpayers money to a bunch of vulture capitalists "Boris Johnson’s £100m “prepare for Brexit” advertising campaign is being run by two US-owned companies, according to Campaign magazine. The advertising drive is designed to promote the ways that businesses can get ready for a no-deal Brexit, though it has been labelled as a blatant propaganda effort. The £100m campaign will be led by the communications and media agency Engine Group. While Engine is based in London, it’s owned by Lake Capital, a US private equity company, and ORC International, a research company based in New Jersey. Meanwhile, Campaign magazine reports that media buying (the process of buying TV, radio and online advertising placements), will be handled by Manning Gottlieb OMD. Again, although Manning Gottlieb is headquartered in London, it’s owned by Omnicom Media Group – a US firm with revenues of $15bn that trades on the New York Stock Exchange. It’s unknown how exactly these US links will influence the advertising campaign. After all, as Larry Summers pointed out last month, Boris Johnson’s no-deal Brexit pledge puts America in a much stronger negotiating position for a future trade deal. Clearly, though, Boris isn’t using Brexit as an opportunity to “buy British”." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 10:46 AM So much winning, £100,000,000 of British Taxpayers money to a bunch of vulture capitalists "Boris Johnson’s £100m “prepare for Brexit” advertising campaign is being run by two US-owned companies, according to Campaign magazine. The advertising drive is designed to promote the ways that businesses can get ready for a no-deal Brexit, though it has been labelled as a blatant propaganda effort. The £100m campaign will be led by the communications and media agency Engine Group. While Engine is based in London, it’s owned by Lake Capital, a US private equity company, and ORC International, a research company based in New Jersey. Meanwhile, Campaign magazine reports that media buying (the process of buying TV, radio and online advertising placements), will be handled by Manning Gottlieb OMD. Again, although Manning Gottlieb is headquartered in London, it’s owned by Omnicom Media Group – a US firm with revenues of $15bn that trades on the New York Stock Exchange. It’s unknown how exactly these US links will influence the advertising campaign. After all, as Larry Summers pointed out last month, Boris Johnson’s no-deal Brexit pledge puts America in a much stronger negotiating position for a future trade deal. Clearly, though, Boris isn’t using Brexit as an opportunity to “buy British”." Both firms based in London and presumably all the work will be done by UK-based staff? A bit like all those workers churning out cars for Nissan, Jaguar, Bentley and Toyota? Thank you though for highlighting other examples of international companies who have confidence in Britain and are willing to invest their money in our country. There's a lot of it about apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 10:02 AM Both firms based in London and presumably all the work will be done by UK-based staff? A bit like all those workers churning out cars for Nissan, Jaguar, Bentley and Toyota? Thank you though for highlighting other examples of international companies who have confidence in Britain and are willing to invest their money in our country. There's a lot of it about apparently. And isn't it amazing that they can do that whilst we are still members of the EU with all the barriers to international trade they put up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 12:54 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 10:02 AM Both firms based in London and presumably all the work will be done by UK-based staff? A bit like all those workers churning out cars for Nissan, Jaguar, Bentley and Toyota? Thank you though for highlighting other examples of international companies who have confidence in Britain and are willing to invest their money in our country. There's a lot of it about apparently. And isn't it amazing that they can do that whilst we are still members of the EU with all the barriers to international trade they put up? Probably the most pointless comment you've ever made. Why would the EU have ever wanted to restrict outside investors to invest money in EU countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 12:00 PM Probably the most pointless comment you've ever made. Why would the EU have ever wanted to restrict outside investors to invest money in EU countries? Oh, I dont know it might have been something John Redwood said..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 11:54 AM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 10:02 AM Both firms based in London and presumably all the work will be done by UK-based staff? A bit like all those workers churning out cars for Nissan, Jaguar, Bentley and Toyota? Thank you though for highlighting other examples of international companies who have confidence in Britain and are willing to invest their money in our country. There's a lot of it about apparently. And isn't it amazing that they can do that whilst we are still members of the EU with all the barriers to international trade they put up? Do we pay the USA 9 billion a year to trade with them? *-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 12:00 PM Probably the most pointless comment you've ever made. Why would the EU have ever wanted to restrict outside investors to invest money in EU countries? Oh, I dont know it might have been something John Redwood said..... I'd like to see that in full context. At the end of 2018 the UK was the top destination for foreign investment, above Germany and France. Investors know we're leaving the EU and whilst there's been a small downturn since 2016, it is small. In the last year a staggering amount of foreign investment has flowed into our tech companies. Do you think this will stop when we leave? Our imminent withdrawal doesn't seem to be deterring them and as an independent nation we'll have more scope for encouraging foreign companies to invest in the UK. Thanks again by the way for reminding us of the faith that foreigners obviously have in the UK. This of course is entirely down to the government, its policies and the strong economy it's created. If The Right Honorable Jeremy Corbyn - 2 A Levels (Grade E) and his Marxist fellow travellers ever get power, you won't be able to hear yourself think for the woosh of foreign investment flying out of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 12:00 PM Probably the most pointless comment you've ever made. Why would the EU have ever wanted to restrict outside investors to invest money in EU countries? Oh, I dont know it might have been something John Redwood said..... I'd like to see that in full context. At the end of 2018 the UK was the top destination for foreign investment, above Germany and France. Investors know we're leaving the EU and whilst there's been a small downturn since 2016, it is small. In the last year a staggering amount of foreign investment has flowed into our tech companies. Do you think this will stop when we leave? Our imminent withdrawal doesn't seem to be deterring them and as an independent nation we'll have more scope for encouraging foreign companies to invest in the UK. Thanks again by the way for reminding us of the faith that foreigners obviously have in the UK. This of course is entirely down to the government, its policies and the strong economy it's created. If The Right Honorable Jeremy Corbyn - 2 A Levels (Grade E) and his Marxist fellow travellers ever get power, you won't be able to hear yourself think for the woosh of foreign investment flying out of the country. By investment I presume you mean the influx of companies buying up UK companies because they were so cheap due to the strength of the pound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 3:55 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 12:00 PM Probably the most pointless comment you've ever made. Why would the EU have ever wanted to restrict outside investors to invest money in EU countries? Oh, I dont know it might have been something John Redwood said..... I'd like to see that in full context. At the end of 2018 the UK was the top destination for foreign investment, above Germany and France. Investors know we're leaving the EU and whilst there's been a small downturn since 2016, it is small. In the last year a staggering amount of foreign investment has flowed into our tech companies. Do you think this will stop when we leave? Our imminent withdrawal doesn't seem to be deterring them and as an independent nation we'll have more scope for encouraging foreign companies to invest in the UK. Thanks again by the way for reminding us of the faith that foreigners obviously have in the UK. This of course is entirely down to the government, its policies and the strong economy it's created. If The Right Honorable Jeremy Corbyn - 2 A Levels (Grade E) and his Marxist fellow travellers ever get power, you won't be able to hear yourself think for the woosh of foreign investment flying out of the country. By investment I presume you mean the influx of companies buying up UK companies because they were so cheap due to the strength of the pound? Oh dear, you're not doing very well today are you? Investment is when people put money into companies in the hope that the firm will grow and they'll then get a good return on their money. To make it easier for you to swallow I've dug out an article from a newspaper that isn't quite as left wing as your normal Socialist Worker, but I hope that it's still acceptable. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/21/uk-tech-firms-secure-record-amount-of-foreign-investment Once more, I'm very grateful that you raised this subject as it's given me the opportunity to show what a superb job the Tories have done in creating an economy that is so attractive to foreign investors. These people only back winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 3:17 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 3:55 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 12:00 PM Probably the most pointless comment you've ever made. Why would the EU have ever wanted to restrict outside investors to invest money in EU countries? Oh, I dont know it might have been something John Redwood said..... I'd like to see that in full context. At the end of 2018 the UK was the top destination for foreign investment, above Germany and France. Investors know we're leaving the EU and whilst there's been a small downturn since 2016, it is small. In the last year a staggering amount of foreign investment has flowed into our tech companies. Do you think this will stop when we leave? Our imminent withdrawal doesn't seem to be deterring them and as an independent nation we'll have more scope for encouraging foreign companies to invest in the UK. Thanks again by the way for reminding us of the faith that foreigners obviously have in the UK. This of course is entirely down to the government, its policies and the strong economy it's created. If The Right Honorable Jeremy Corbyn - 2 A Levels (Grade E) and his Marxist fellow travellers ever get power, you won't be able to hear yourself think for the woosh of foreign investment flying out of the country. By investment I presume you mean the influx of companies buying up UK companies because they were so cheap due to the strength of the pound? Oh dear, you're not doing very well today are you? Investment is when people put money into companies in the hope that the firm will grow and they'll then get a good return on their money. To make it easier for you to swallow I've dug out an article from a newspaper that isn't quite as left wing as your normal Socialist Worker, but I hope that it's still acceptable. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/21/uk-tech-firms-secure-record-amount-of-foreign-investment Once more, I'm very grateful that you raised this subject as it's given me the opportunity to show what a superb job the Tories have done in creating an economy that is so attractive to foreign investors. These people only back winners. Oh dear, you're not doing well today. There's a major difference between investment in a UK business, which is a good thing providing that investment isn't the initial purchase of a minority stake intent on a majority stake at a later point, and buying the company outright US companies take advantage of weak pound to buy UK firms https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/24/american-companies-buying-the-best-of-britain-on-the-cheap?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Which normally leads to something like this https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/cadbury-owners-zero-corporation-tax-15265392 Job losses, corporation tax losses etc etc Free market - isn't it great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 A free market would be good....I see Eu has Imposed tariffs on importing Chinese bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-09-03 5:25 PM A free market would be good....I see Eu has Imposed tariffs on importing Chinese bikes. Yes to stop them dumping and undermining EU (incl UK) companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-09-03 5:25 PM A free market would be good....I see Eu has Imposed tariffs on importing Chinese bikes. Yes to stop them dumping and undermining EU (incl UK) companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 6:14 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 3:17 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 3:55 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 12:00 PM Probably the most pointless comment you've ever made. Why would the EU have ever wanted to restrict outside investors to invest money in EU countries? Oh, I dont know it might have been something John Redwood said..... I'd like to see that in full context. At the end of 2018 the UK was the top destination for foreign investment, above Germany and France. Investors know we're leaving the EU and whilst there's been a small downturn since 2016, it is small. In the last year a staggering amount of foreign investment has flowed into our tech companies. Do you think this will stop when we leave? Our imminent withdrawal doesn't seem to be deterring them and as an independent nation we'll have more scope for encouraging foreign companies to invest in the UK. Thanks again by the way for reminding us of the faith that foreigners obviously have in the UK. This of course is entirely down to the government, its policies and the strong economy it's created. If The Right Honorable Jeremy Corbyn - 2 A Levels (Grade E) and his Marxist fellow travellers ever get power, you won't be able to hear yourself think for the woosh of foreign investment flying out of the country. By investment I presume you mean the influx of companies buying up UK companies because they were so cheap due to the strength of the pound? Oh dear, you're not doing very well today are you? Investment is when people put money into companies in the hope that the firm will grow and they'll then get a good return on their money. To make it easier for you to swallow I've dug out an article from a newspaper that isn't quite as left wing as your normal Socialist Worker, but I hope that it's still acceptable. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/21/uk-tech-firms-secure-record-amount-of-foreign-investment Once more, I'm very grateful that you raised this subject as it's given me the opportunity to show what a superb job the Tories have done in creating an economy that is so attractive to foreign investors. These people only back winners. Oh dear, you're not doing well today. There's a major difference between investment in a UK business, which is a good thing providing that investment isn't the initial purchase of a minority stake intent on a majority stake at a later point, and buying the company outright US companies take advantage of weak pound to buy UK firms https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/24/american-companies-buying-the-best-of-britain-on-the-cheap?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Which normally leads to something like this https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/cadbury-owners-zero-corporation-tax-15265392 Job losses, corporation tax losses etc etc Free market - isn't it great. Free markets are great and create wealth and jobs. You're banging on about the cheap pound but the example you give was eleven years ago. Did you read my link about the vast amounts invested in tech companies in the last few months? I always ask this and never get an answer. Give me the name of one country that embraced the Socialism espoused by Corbyn that is more free and whose citizens are better off. The USSR, DDR, the entire Eastern Bloc! Cuba, China, Cambodia, Venezuela? Socialism and restricted trade delivers poverty, starvation, loss off freedom, no travel opportunities and consumer goods that are basic and often dangerous. Several years to wait for a Trabant that's made of cardboard! Socialism is founded on envy and hatred. You'd rather we were all poor than allow a few to get rich. This is why most of the countries I've mentioned have adopted capitalism and free trade and seen their economy grow and ordinary people become richer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 5:45 PM Free markets are great and create wealth and jobs. You're banging on about the cheap pound but the example you give was eleven years ago. Did you read my link about the vast amounts invested in tech companies in the last few months? I always ask this and never get an answer. Give me the name of one country that embraced the Socialism espoused by Corbyn that is more free and whose citizens are better off. The USSR, DDR, the entire Eastern Bloc! Cuba, China, Cambodia, Venezuela? Socialism and restricted trade delivers poverty, starvation, loss off freedom, no travel opportunities and consumer goods that are basic and often dangerous. Several years to wait for a Trabant that's made of cardboard! Socialism is founded on envy and hatred. You'd rather we were all poor than allow a few to get rich. This is why most of the countries I've mentioned have adopted capitalism and free trade and seen their economy grow and ordinary people become richer. Oh dear, you're not doing well today. Yes Cadburys was eleven years ago, but the top link details UK companies being bought outright. And I'd be careful of welcoming the investment in our tech companies, as I said it is often the start of a takeover further down the line https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/aug/30/arm-shareholders-softbank-takeover-tech-lord-myners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 5:45 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 6:14 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 3:17 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 3:55 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 12:00 PM Probably the most pointless comment you've ever made. Why would the EU have ever wanted to restrict outside investors to invest money in EU countries? Oh, I dont know it might have been something John Redwood said..... I'd like to see that in full context. At the end of 2018 the UK was the top destination for foreign investment, above Germany and France. Investors know we're leaving the EU and whilst there's been a small downturn since 2016, it is small. In the last year a staggering amount of foreign investment has flowed into our tech companies. Do you think this will stop when we leave? Our imminent withdrawal doesn't seem to be deterring them and as an independent nation we'll have more scope for encouraging foreign companies to invest in the UK. Thanks again by the way for reminding us of the faith that foreigners obviously have in the UK. This of course is entirely down to the government, its policies and the strong economy it's created. If The Right Honorable Jeremy Corbyn - 2 A Levels (Grade E) and his Marxist fellow travellers ever get power, you won't be able to hear yourself think for the woosh of foreign investment flying out of the country. By investment I presume you mean the influx of companies buying up UK companies because they were so cheap due to the strength of the pound? Oh dear, you're not doing very well today are you? Investment is when people put money into companies in the hope that the firm will grow and they'll then get a good return on their money. To make it easier for you to swallow I've dug out an article from a newspaper that isn't quite as left wing as your normal Socialist Worker, but I hope that it's still acceptable. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/21/uk-tech-firms-secure-record-amount-of-foreign-investment Once more, I'm very grateful that you raised this subject as it's given me the opportunity to show what a superb job the Tories have done in creating an economy that is so attractive to foreign investors. These people only back winners. Oh dear, you're not doing well today. There's a major difference between investment in a UK business, which is a good thing providing that investment isn't the initial purchase of a minority stake intent on a majority stake at a later point, and buying the company outright US companies take advantage of weak pound to buy UK firms https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/24/american-companies-buying-the-best-of-britain-on-the-cheap?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Which normally leads to something like this https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/cadbury-owners-zero-corporation-tax-15265392 Job losses, corporation tax losses etc etc Free market - isn't it great. Free markets are great and create wealth and jobs. You're banging on about the cheap pound but the example you give was eleven years ago. Did you read my link about the vast amounts invested in tech companies in the last few months? I always ask this and never get an answer. Give me the name of one country that embraced the Socialism espoused by Corbyn that is more free and whose citizens are better off. The USSR, DDR, the entire Eastern Bloc! Cuba, China, Cambodia, Venezuela? Socialism and restricted trade delivers poverty, starvation, loss off freedom, no travel opportunities and consumer goods that are basic and often dangerous. Several years to wait for a Trabant that's made of cardboard! Socialism is founded on envy and hatred. You'd rather we were all poor than allow a few to get rich. This is why most of the countries I've mentioned have adopted capitalism and free trade and seen their economy grow and ordinary people become richer. I agree with some of what you say FunnyJohn. Im a bit of a capitalist you will be surprised to hear. Been a business man / Entrepenur for nearly two decades and before that climbed my way up the ladder in corporate Bastud land. Ok so I have a few liberal values, loose morals probably and a few old hippy tendencies but Im all for people making a few quid. Nearly everyone I know is what I would class as well off to loaded but not on the scale perhaps of those that orchestrated Brexit who stand to gain the most from avoiding the new EU tax regulations or making a few billion betting on the countries demise. I dont think anyone is talking about the country turning into a communist state are they or becoming the next Venezuela but your act of self harm IMO worries me more than the chances of a Corbyn led government but whichever way you look at it if Brexit results in economic disaster and / or a Corbyn led government it will be down to the Brexiteers who bestowed this sh1tfest upon us, nobody else. As far as I Can tell UK PLC was doing just nicely until all this guff happened. Austerity was bad for many though and I can see why a lot of people voted for change especially when they were promised their lives would be better and after years of the media and government blaming the EU for everything from bendy bananas to their wages being crap it was an easy choice for them. Those sunlit uplands dont look so sunny to me right now though and its looking to me like the end is nigh for the Tories. Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Assume your going to vote Labour then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 5:30 PM jumpstart - 2019-09-03 5:25 PM A free market would be good....I see Eu has Imposed tariffs on importing Chinese bikes. Yes to stop them dumping and undermining EU (incl UK) companies. So all those companies across europe who want to sell bikes from China now have to put up their prices so it costs us more. Helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 5:45 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 6:14 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 3:17 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 3:55 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 12:00 PM Probably the most pointless comment you've ever made. Why would the EU have ever wanted to restrict outside investors to invest money in EU countries? Oh, I dont know it might have been something John Redwood said..... I'd like to see that in full context. At the end of 2018 the UK was the top destination for foreign investment, above Germany and France. Investors know we're leaving the EU and whilst there's been a small downturn since 2016, it is small. In the last year a staggering amount of foreign investment has flowed into our tech companies. Do you think this will stop when we leave? Our imminent withdrawal doesn't seem to be deterring them and as an independent nation we'll have more scope for encouraging foreign companies to invest in the UK. Thanks again by the way for reminding us of the faith that foreigners obviously have in the UK. This of course is entirely down to the government, its policies and the strong economy it's created. If The Right Honorable Jeremy Corbyn - 2 A Levels (Grade E) and his Marxist fellow travellers ever get power, you won't be able to hear yourself think for the woosh of foreign investment flying out of the country. By investment I presume you mean the influx of companies buying up UK companies because they were so cheap due to the strength of the pound? Oh dear, you're not doing very well today are you? Investment is when people put money into companies in the hope that the firm will grow and they'll then get a good return on their money. To make it easier for you to swallow I've dug out an article from a newspaper that isn't quite as left wing as your normal Socialist Worker, but I hope that it's still acceptable. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/21/uk-tech-firms-secure-record-amount-of-foreign-investment Once more, I'm very grateful that you raised this subject as it's given me the opportunity to show what a superb job the Tories have done in creating an economy that is so attractive to foreign investors. These people only back winners. Oh dear, you're not doing well today. There's a major difference between investment in a UK business, which is a good thing providing that investment isn't the initial purchase of a minority stake intent on a majority stake at a later point, and buying the company outright US companies take advantage of weak pound to buy UK firms https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/24/american-companies-buying-the-best-of-britain-on-the-cheap?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Which normally leads to something like this https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/cadbury-owners-zero-corporation-tax-15265392 Job losses, corporation tax losses etc etc Free market - isn't it great. Free markets are great and create wealth and jobs. You're banging on about the cheap pound but the example you give was eleven years ago. Did you read my link about the vast amounts invested in tech companies in the last few months? I always ask this and never get an answer. Give me the name of one country that embraced the Socialism espoused by Corbyn that is more free and whose citizens are better off. The USSR, DDR, the entire Eastern Bloc! Cuba, China, Cambodia, Venezuela? Socialism and restricted trade delivers poverty, starvation, loss off freedom, no travel opportunities and consumer goods that are basic and often dangerous. Several years to wait for a Trabant that's made of cardboard! Socialism is founded on envy and hatred. You'd rather we were all poor than allow a few to get rich. This is why most of the countries I've mentioned have adopted capitalism and free trade and seen their economy grow and ordinary people become richer. Oh look who the bankers prefer https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/09/03/corbyn-better-no-deal-brexit-say-investment-banks-anti-capitalist/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 8:25 PM Oh look who the bankers prefer https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/09/03/corbyn-better-no-deal-brexit-say-investment-banks-anti-capitalist/amp/?__twitter_impression=true I'll write that truthfully for you. 'Oh, look who two foreign banks prefer.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-09-03 6:13 PM Assume your going to vote Labour then. Why would you assume that? Are you taking the Pish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 7:25 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 5:45 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 6:14 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 3:17 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 3:55 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 2:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-09-03 12:00 PM Probably the most pointless comment you've ever made. Why would the EU have ever wanted to restrict outside investors to invest money in EU countries? Oh, I dont know it might have been something John Redwood said..... I'd like to see that in full context. At the end of 2018 the UK was the top destination for foreign investment, above Germany and France. Investors know we're leaving the EU and whilst there's been a small downturn since 2016, it is small. In the last year a staggering amount of foreign investment has flowed into our tech companies. Do you think this will stop when we leave? Our imminent withdrawal doesn't seem to be deterring them and as an independent nation we'll have more scope for encouraging foreign companies to invest in the UK. Thanks again by the way for reminding us of the faith that foreigners obviously have in the UK. This of course is entirely down to the government, its policies and the strong economy it's created. If The Right Honorable Jeremy Corbyn - 2 A Levels (Grade E) and his Marxist fellow travellers ever get power, you won't be able to hear yourself think for the woosh of foreign investment flying out of the country. By investment I presume you mean the influx of companies buying up UK companies because they were so cheap due to the strength of the pound? Oh dear, you're not doing very well today are you? Investment is when people put money into companies in the hope that the firm will grow and they'll then get a good return on their money. To make it easier for you to swallow I've dug out an article from a newspaper that isn't quite as left wing as your normal Socialist Worker, but I hope that it's still acceptable. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/21/uk-tech-firms-secure-record-amount-of-foreign-investment Once more, I'm very grateful that you raised this subject as it's given me the opportunity to show what a superb job the Tories have done in creating an economy that is so attractive to foreign investors. These people only back winners. Oh dear, you're not doing well today. There's a major difference between investment in a UK business, which is a good thing providing that investment isn't the initial purchase of a minority stake intent on a majority stake at a later point, and buying the company outright US companies take advantage of weak pound to buy UK firms https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/24/american-companies-buying-the-best-of-britain-on-the-cheap?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Which normally leads to something like this https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/cadbury-owners-zero-corporation-tax-15265392 Job losses, corporation tax losses etc etc Free market - isn't it great. Free markets are great and create wealth and jobs. You're banging on about the cheap pound but the example you give was eleven years ago. Did you read my link about the vast amounts invested in tech companies in the last few months? I always ask this and never get an answer. Give me the name of one country that embraced the Socialism espoused by Corbyn that is more free and whose citizens are better off. The USSR, DDR, the entire Eastern Bloc! Cuba, China, Cambodia, Venezuela? Socialism and restricted trade delivers poverty, starvation, loss off freedom, no travel opportunities and consumer goods that are basic and often dangerous. Several years to wait for a Trabant that's made of cardboard! Socialism is founded on envy and hatred. You'd rather we were all poor than allow a few to get rich. This is why most of the countries I've mentioned have adopted capitalism and free trade and seen their economy grow and ordinary people become richer. Oh look who the bankers prefer https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/09/03/corbyn-better-no-deal-brexit-say-investment-banks-anti-capitalist/amp/?__twitter_impression=true Hahaha, The author states that Deutsche Bank is a giant. :D It may be big but has been in trouble for years. :D http://themillenniumreport.com/2019/07/deutsche-bank-is-the-lehman-brothers-of-2019-its-collapsed-and-no-one-is-talking-about-it/ And from RT (Russia Today) which I am sure you and Bullet trust implicitly. https://www.rt.com/business/463644-deutsche-bank-collapse-jim-rogers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-09-03 9:13 PM jumpstart - 2019-09-03 6:13 PM Assume your going to vote Labour then. Why would you assume that? Are you taking the Pish? C'mon Barry, answer the question. Who will you vote for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 747 - 2019-09-04 8:13 AM Barryd999 - 2019-09-03 9:13 PM jumpstart - 2019-09-03 6:13 PM Assume your going to vote Labour then. Why would you assume that? Are you taking the Pish? C'mon Barry, answer the question. Who will you vote for? He's going to vote for Oh No Joe ;-) ..............He's gonna help them come second :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Barry said earlier that he doesn't know who to vote for. If he is a ditherer, that'll be the Lib Dems then. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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