Guest pelmetman Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Boris will allow the Labour's Surrender bill to have Royal assent ;-) ......... BUT........Labour are already going CLUCK CLUCK Chicken *-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Jacob Rees Mogg confirms that the Commons will not be prorogued until the Benn bill has completed its passage. Government has fully retreated. Corbyn and Co have played a blinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Agreed, the way is clearing for a GE. Jeremy had better get his vegetables picked this Autumn Oh yes ... and he needs to get to his Allotment as well. :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-05 12:49 PM Jacob Rees Mogg confirms that the Commons will not be prorogued until the Benn bill has completed its passage. Government has fully retreated. Corbyn and Co have played a blinder. Its too easy. Remember Cummings is involved and he is a clever sneaky little sh1t. I bet they are "up to something". 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-09-05 1:27 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-05 12:49 PM Jacob Rees Mogg confirms that the Commons will not be prorogued until the Benn bill has completed its passage. Government has fully retreated. Corbyn and Co have played a blinder. Its too easy. Remember Cummings is involved and he is a clever sneaky little sh1t. I bet they are "up to something". 8-) Cluck Cluck Corbyn's lost his excuse >:-) ............ Come on!...... let the people decide :D ....... What are you afraid of? ;-) .......... The result? (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. Napoleon Bonaparte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-06 10:15 AM Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. Napoleon Bonaparte Haha! And look what happened to him! Major fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-06 8:49 AM Barryd999 - 2019-09-05 1:27 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-05 12:49 PM Jacob Rees Mogg confirms that the Commons will not be prorogued until the Benn bill has completed its passage. Government has fully retreated. Corbyn and Co have played a blinder. Its too easy. Remember Cummings is involved and he is a clever sneaky little sh1t. I bet they are "up to something". 8-) Cluck Cluck Corbyn's lost his excuse >:-) ............ Come on!...... let the people decide :D ....... What are you afraid of? ;-) .......... The result? (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/ Didn't the people decide in 2017? Did they not know what they were voting for? (lol) How come its ok to have another election but not another referendum? Why not give Boris a chance to go and get a deal (he needs to get a wiggle on as he has done nothing so far) and either bring that back and let the people decide or if he cant get one and No deal is the only option then let the people decide on no deal vs remain? Another election wont solve anything as it will just be another hung parliament. People are saying that the GE will in effect be a referendum but it wont be as people vote for a party on more than just Brexit. I know Tory remainers and Labour leavers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Pelmethead should think of a second referendum not as a way of "stealing his win", but as a way of forcing all us remoaners to get behind the project and stop whinging. Think about it, Pelmet... Risk: the country might change its mind. Reward: silence - no more whinging! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-06 10:58 AM Pelmethead should think of a second referendum not as a way of "stealing his win", but as a way of forcing all us remoaners to get behind the project and stop whinging. Think about it, Pelmet... Risk: the country might change its mind. Reward: silence - no more whinging! Should Cluck Cluck Corbyn grow some gonads and agree to that election he's been demanding ever since the last one >:-) ........ The electorate will have a simple choice ;-) ......... If they want the chaos to continue......vote Labour, Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid Cymru or Greens >:-) ........ If they want it to end......vote Tory or Brexit Party B-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-09-06 9:57 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-06 8:49 AM Barryd999 - 2019-09-05 1:27 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-05 12:49 PM Jacob Rees Mogg confirms that the Commons will not be prorogued until the Benn bill has completed its passage. Government has fully retreated. Corbyn and Co have played a blinder. Its too easy. Remember Cummings is involved and he is a clever sneaky little sh1t. I bet they are "up to something". 8-) Cluck Cluck Corbyn's lost his excuse >:-) ............ Come on!...... let the people decide :D ....... What are you afraid of? ;-) .......... The result? (lol) (lol) (lol) ......... https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/ Didn't the people decide in 2017? Did they not know what they were voting for? (lol) How come its ok to have another election but not another referendum? Why not give Boris a chance to go and get a deal (he needs to get a wiggle on as he has done nothing so far) and either bring that back and let the people decide or if he cant get one and No deal is the only option then let the people decide on no deal vs remain? Another election wont solve anything as it will just be another hung parliament. People are saying that the GE will in effect be a referendum but it wont be as people vote for a party on more than just Brexit. I know Tory remainers and Labour leavers. You mean that election where Labour and certain Tory MP's campaigned to respect the result of the referendum??? *-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-06 11:32 AM You mean that election where Labour and certain Tory MP's campaigned to respect the result of the referendum??? *-) ........... Labour Party 2017 Manifesto We will scrap the Conservatives’ Brexit White Paper and replace it with fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single Market and the Customs Union – which are essential for maintaining industries, jobs and businesses in Britain. Labour will always put jobs and the economy first. A Labour government will immediately guarantee existing rights for all EU nationals living in Britain and secure reciprocal rights for UK citizens who have chosen to make their lives in EU countries. EU nationals do not just contribute to our society: they are part of our society. And they should not be used as bargaining chips. It is shameful that the Prime Minister rejected repeated attempts by Labour to resolve this issue before Article 50 was triggered. As a result three million EU nationals have suffered unnecessary uncertainty, as have the 1.2 million UK citizens living in the EU. A Conservative Brexit will weaken workers’ rights, deregulate the economy, slash corporate taxes, sideline Parliament and democratic accountability, and cut Britain off from our closest allies and most important trading partners. Labour recognises that leaving the EU with ‘no deal’ is the worst possible deal for Britain and that it would do damage to our economy and trade. We will reject ‘no deal’ as a viable option and, if needs be, negotiate transitional arrangements to avoid a ‘cliff-edge’ for the UK economy. The issues that affect our continent now will continue to do so in the future – and Labour will continue to work constructively with the EU and other European nations on issues such as climate change, refugee crises and counter-terrorism. Conservative 2017 Manifesto regarding Brexit "Exit the European single market and customs union but seek a "deep and special partnership" including comprehensive free trade and customs agreement Vote in both Houses of Parliament on "final agreement" for Brexit Assess whether to continue with specific European programmes and it "will be reasonable that we make a contribution" to the ones which continue Agree terms of future partnership with EU alongside withdrawal, both within the two years allowed under Article 50 Convert EU law into UK law and later allow parliament to pass legislation to "amend, repeal or improve" any piece of this Remain signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights for the next parliament" Sorry but which party is not delivering on its manifesto commitments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-06 11:12 AM Fast Pat - 2019-09-06 10:58 AM Pelmethead should think of a second referendum not as a way of "stealing his win", but as a way of forcing all us remoaners to get behind the project and stop whinging. Think about it, Pelmet... Risk: the country might change its mind. Reward: silence - no more whinging! Should Cluck Cluck Corbyn grow some gonads and agree to that election he's been demanding ever since the last one >:-) ........ The electorate will have a simple choice ;-) ......... If they want the chaos to continue......vote Labour, Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid Cymru or Greens >:-) ........ If they want it to end......vote Tory or Brexit Party B-) ......... Your taking the pish now right? Thats a good one Dave, Ill give you that. Ill send you the bill for cleaning my laptop screen of orange juice. Good job it wasnt the single malt but luckily I quaffed all that last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-06 11:40 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-06 11:32 AM You mean that election where Labour and certain Tory MP's campaigned to respect the result of the referendum??? *-) ........... Labour Party 2017 Manifesto We will scrap the Conservatives’ Brexit White Paper and replace it with fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single Market and the Customs Union – which are essential for maintaining industries, jobs and businesses in Britain. Labour will always put jobs and the economy first. A Labour government will immediately guarantee existing rights for all EU nationals living in Britain and secure reciprocal rights for UK citizens who have chosen to make their lives in EU countries. EU nationals do not just contribute to our society: they are part of our society. And they should not be used as bargaining chips. It is shameful that the Prime Minister rejected repeated attempts by Labour to resolve this issue before Article 50 was triggered. As a result three million EU nationals have suffered unnecessary uncertainty, as have the 1.2 million UK citizens living in the EU. A Conservative Brexit will weaken workers’ rights, deregulate the economy, slash corporate taxes, sideline Parliament and democratic accountability, and cut Britain off from our closest allies and most important trading partners. Labour recognises that leaving the EU with ‘no deal’ is the worst possible deal for Britain and that it would do damage to our economy and trade. We will reject ‘no deal’ as a viable option and, if needs be, negotiate transitional arrangements to avoid a ‘cliff-edge’ for the UK economy. The issues that affect our continent now will continue to do so in the future – and Labour will continue to work constructively with the EU and other European nations on issues such as climate change, refugee crises and counter-terrorism. Conservative 2017 Manifesto regarding Brexit "Exit the European single market and customs union but seek a "deep and special partnership" including comprehensive free trade and customs agreement Vote in both Houses of Parliament on "final agreement" for Brexit Assess whether to continue with specific European programmes and it "will be reasonable that we make a contribution" to the ones which continue Agree terms of future partnership with EU alongside withdrawal, both within the two years allowed under Article 50 Convert EU law into UK law and later allow parliament to pass legislation to "amend, repeal or improve" any piece of this Remain signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights for the next parliament" Sorry but which party is not delivering on its manifesto commitments? I only got as far as the first 3 paragraphs of the Labour manifesto before my stomach started churning. Paragraph1: Labour will always put jobs and the economy first. Hilarious. Paragraph 3: As a result three million EU nationals have suffered unnecessary uncertainty 3 Million! 8-) Why were we continually given false information on the number of EU Nationals. Listen everyone, there are THREE MILLION EU Nationals, no wonder services are stretched to breaking point and the NHS needs more money, Hospitals and Staff. That is roughly a 5% increase in the UK Population. *-) Add to that when Labour get in to Government, we will be back to the Labour Policy of Open Door Migration in order to achieve our 'Multi-cultural Society'. We will be utterly and totally f****d. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 747 - 2019-09-06 1:27 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-06 11:40 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-06 11:32 AM You mean that election where Labour and certain Tory MP's campaigned to respect the result of the referendum??? *-) ........... Labour Party 2017 Manifesto We will scrap the Conservatives’ Brexit White Paper and replace it with fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single Market and the Customs Union – which are essential for maintaining industries, jobs and businesses in Britain. Labour will always put jobs and the economy first. A Labour government will immediately guarantee existing rights for all EU nationals living in Britain and secure reciprocal rights for UK citizens who have chosen to make their lives in EU countries. EU nationals do not just contribute to our society: they are part of our society. And they should not be used as bargaining chips. It is shameful that the Prime Minister rejected repeated attempts by Labour to resolve this issue before Article 50 was triggered. As a result three million EU nationals have suffered unnecessary uncertainty, as have the 1.2 million UK citizens living in the EU. A Conservative Brexit will weaken workers’ rights, deregulate the economy, slash corporate taxes, sideline Parliament and democratic accountability, and cut Britain off from our closest allies and most important trading partners. Labour recognises that leaving the EU with ‘no deal’ is the worst possible deal for Britain and that it would do damage to our economy and trade. We will reject ‘no deal’ as a viable option and, if needs be, negotiate transitional arrangements to avoid a ‘cliff-edge’ for the UK economy. The issues that affect our continent now will continue to do so in the future – and Labour will continue to work constructively with the EU and other European nations on issues such as climate change, refugee crises and counter-terrorism. Conservative 2017 Manifesto regarding Brexit "Exit the European single market and customs union but seek a "deep and special partnership" including comprehensive free trade and customs agreement Vote in both Houses of Parliament on "final agreement" for Brexit Assess whether to continue with specific European programmes and it "will be reasonable that we make a contribution" to the ones which continue Agree terms of future partnership with EU alongside withdrawal, both within the two years allowed under Article 50 Convert EU law into UK law and later allow parliament to pass legislation to "amend, repeal or improve" any piece of this Remain signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights for the next parliament" Sorry but which party is not delivering on its manifesto commitments? I only got as far as the first 3 paragraphs of the Labour manifesto before my stomach started churning. Paragraph1: Labour will always put jobs and the economy first. Hilarious. Paragraph 3: As a result three million EU nationals have suffered unnecessary uncertainty 3 Million! 8-) Why were we continually given false information on the number of EU Nationals. Listen everyone, there are THREE MILLION EU Nationals, no wonder services are stretched to breaking point and the NHS needs more money, Hospitals and Staff. That is roughly a 5% increase in the UK Population. *-) Add to that when Labour get in to Government, we will be back to the Labour Policy of Open Door Migration in order to achieve our 'Multi-cultural Society'. We will be utterly and totally f****d. :-( Ah but one Brexit Fact we have learned since 2016 is the net contribution those EU nationals make to our economy. Its more than none EU migrants and even more than British nationals. That myth of EU nationals stretching our services was busted some time ago. If services are stretched then its down to this government not EU nationals. Without them we would see a net loss to the economy and they would only have to be replaced from somewhere further afield anyway, its already happening. In no way am I defending Labours spending policies but is nobody else alarmed at what the Tories post Brexit plan is? Its pretty clear that in order to disguise their no deal carnage they are going to throw money at it from the magic money tree like its gone out of fashion. It will be them this time leaving a note saying we have spaffed it all up the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-09-06 12:35 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-06 11:12 AM Fast Pat - 2019-09-06 10:58 AM Pelmethead should think of a second referendum not as a way of "stealing his win", but as a way of forcing all us remoaners to get behind the project and stop whinging. Think about it, Pelmet... Risk: the country might change its mind. Reward: silence - no more whinging! Should Cluck Cluck Corbyn grow some gonads and agree to that election he's been demanding ever since the last one >:-) ........ The electorate will have a simple choice ;-) ......... If they want the chaos to continue......vote Labour, Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid Cymru or Greens >:-) ........ If they want it to end......vote Tory or Brexit Party B-) ......... Your taking the pish now right? Thats a good one Dave, Ill give you that. Ill send you the bill for cleaning my laptop screen of orange juice. Good job it wasnt the single malt but luckily I quaffed all that last night Who's continuing the chaos? ;-) .............Cluck Cluck Corbyn >:-) ......... He gets offered on a plate the election he's been demanding since 2017 and suddenly he's changed his mind 8-) .......... Nothing to do with the polls of course >:-) .......... I guess Boris will have to run down the clock until the end of this fixed term Parliament :-| ....... Suits me :D ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Do you genuinely not know what's going on Dave and why? Have you just burried your head in the sand or are you just taking the piss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-09-06 9:51 PM Do you genuinely not know what's going on Dave and why? You should know by now Barry that Dave seldom has any grasp of what's going on, and only posts on here for entertainment value. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 malc d - 2019-09-06 10:00 PM Barryd999 - 2019-09-06 9:51 PM Do you genuinely not know what's going on Dave and why? You should know by now Barry that Dave seldom has any grasp of what's going on, and only posts on here for entertainment value. ;-) Perhaps you could update me on what's going on Malc ;-) ........ We have been back since the 1st of July and Blighty seems to be ticking over nicely based on my experience of selling and renting property :-| ......... Even the reports I've had from the self employed coalface indicates an economy in very rude health B-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 malc d - 2019-09-06 10:00 PM Barryd999 - 2019-09-06 9:51 PM Do you genuinely not know what's going on Dave and why? You should know by now Barry that Dave seldom has any grasp of what's going on, and only posts on here for entertainment value. ;-) Well yeah of course. It is good entertainment value on here though. I wonder where Mr Birdseed and FunnyJohn have got to. Maybe eloped together. That will upset Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-09-06 10:40 PM malc d - 2019-09-06 10:00 PM Barryd999 - 2019-09-06 9:51 PM Do you genuinely not know what's going on Dave and why? You should know by now Barry that Dave seldom has any grasp of what's going on, and only posts on here for entertainment value. ;-) Well yeah of course. It is good entertainment value on here though. I wonder where Mr Birdseed and FunnyJohn have got to. Maybe eloped together. That will upset Dave. They've left me holding the Brexit fort ;-) ........... It's not exactly hard work putting Losers in their place :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 malc d - 2019-09-06 10:00 PM Barryd999 - 2019-09-06 9:51 PM Do you genuinely not know what's going on Dave and why? You should know by now Barry that Dave seldom has any grasp of what's going on, and only posts on here for entertainment value. ;-) And that's when he's sober.....given his inane ramblings in threads this evening i suspect he's drunk. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Boris: "Never in history has an opposition party been given the chance to have an election and turned it down." Yes, but never before has such a self-serving entitled prick played 4D chess with our future while the opposition parties work out how to hand him his arse on a plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-06 11:23 PM Boris: "Never in history has an opposition party been given the chance to have an election and turned it down." . …….. I would also suggest that : " Never in history has a government with a majority of 1 seat, sacked 21 of its' most experienced MPs, to put itself in a far worse position " :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 malc d - 2019-09-07 9:34 AM Fast Pat - 2019-09-06 11:23 PM Boris: "Never in history has an opposition party been given the chance to have an election and turned it down." . …….. I would also suggest that : " Never in history has a government with a majority of 1 seat, sacked 21 of its' most experienced MPs, to put itself in a far worse position " :-| Would you employ people who are actively working to prevent you from doing your job??? 8-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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