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userpelmetman
Posted: 2 August 2020 10:07 AM
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Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........

userBrian Kirby
Posted: 2 August 2020 12:05 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-08-01 6:35 PM
Brian Kirby - 2020-08-01 12:47 PM
pelmetman - 2020-08-01 9:52 AM.......................
1 Correct its not all down to him ..........
2 Coz Wales, NI and Scottish governments are responsible for their handling of COVID19 ..........
3 Have they managed any better than Boris?.........NO .........
4 So why aren't you LOSERS bitching about them???? .........
5 Oh silly me......they wanted to Remain in the EU didn't they ..........
6 You Boris Bashers are so ruddy transparent your double glazed ...........

1 Arguably true.
2 Largely true.
3 NI and Scotland definitely have. Only Wales is worse.
4 At a guess, because most of us live in England, and Wales is the only UK country where the figures are worse than England's - so it seems inappropriate to crow.
5 No, Wales voted majority leave.
6 Two sheets of glass are less transparent than one. Physics, innit? But both are in any case irrelevant to Covid.
So, 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 are irrelevant to the string, leaving only 3, which is wrong but, as the string seeks to compare the UK as a whole to the EU as a whole, 3 is also irrelevant.
However, since Dave has raised it, there is an uncomfortable (though interesting, even if strictly OT) truth here. Both Scotland and Northern Ireland voted in favour of remain, and both have better Covid infection, and death, rates than England or Wales. Make of that what you will! Is someone trying to tell someone something unwelcome? Makes you think, doesn't it?

So you agree with 1 & 2 .......
3..........Considering their populations are tiny compared to England......It's hardly surprising .........
4..........It hasn't stopped you LLLLB folk crowing .......
5..........Yep against the wishes of their government ........
6.........Pyhsics didn't stop you Losing in 2016........It's your Loser problem that is stopping you from moving on with your Loser Life .........Move on Losers ........

1 & 2. No, I said exactly what I said above. 1 is arguably, 2 is largely, true. Both irrelevant.
3 The rate of death or infection is what it relevant to any comparison, because it takes account of population size. I was quoting ONS data based on rates.
4 Only you were crowing. But it's still irrelevant.
5 Relevance to Covid?
6 Physics didn't come into the 2016 referendum. That was politics. But the referendum is still irrelevant to Covid. Ever heard of a Phyrric victory? It's what I think you "won" in 2016.
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Posted: 2 August 2020 1:01 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-08-01 8:18 PM

John52 - 2020-08-01 8:10 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-01 6:35 PM



Move on Losers ........



Brian has just demolished every point you made, and that is your reply
Can I just ask again what we have lost that you haven't ?


Only a briandead "Loser" would think that .........

....

Loser?
So what have we lost that you haven't
userJohn52
Posted: 2 August 2020 1:04 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2020-08-02 12:05 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-01 6:35 PM
Brian Kirby - 2020-08-01 12:47 PM
pelmetman - 2020-08-01 9:52 AM.......................
1 Correct its not all down to him ..........
2 Coz Wales, NI and Scottish governments are responsible for their handling of COVID19 ..........
3 Have they managed any better than Boris?.........NO .........
4 So why aren't you LOSERS bitching about them???? .........
5 Oh silly me......they wanted to Remain in the EU didn't they ..........
6 You Boris Bashers are so ruddy transparent your double glazed ...........

1 Arguably true.
2 Largely true.
3 NI and Scotland definitely have. Only Wales is worse.
4 At a guess, because most of us live in England, and Wales is the only UK country where the figures are worse than England's - so it seems inappropriate to crow.
5 No, Wales voted majority leave.
6 Two sheets of glass are less transparent than one. Physics, innit? But both are in any case irrelevant to Covid.
So, 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 are irrelevant to the string, leaving only 3, which is wrong but, as the string seeks to compare the UK as a whole to the EU as a whole, 3 is also irrelevant.
However, since Dave has raised it, there is an uncomfortable (though interesting, even if strictly OT) truth here. Both Scotland and Northern Ireland voted in favour of remain, and both have better Covid infection, and death, rates than England or Wales. Make of that what you will! Is someone trying to tell someone something unwelcome? Makes you think, doesn't it?

So you agree with 1 & 2 .......
3..........Considering their populations are tiny compared to England......It's hardly surprising .........
4..........It hasn't stopped you LLLLB folk crowing .......
5..........Yep against the wishes of their government ........
6.........Pyhsics didn't stop you Losing in 2016........It's your Loser problem that is stopping you from moving on with your Loser Life .........Move on Losers ........

1 & 2. No, I said exactly what I said above. 1 is arguably, 2 is largely, true. Both irrelevant.
3 The rate of death or infection is what it relevant to any comparison, because it takes account of population size. I was quoting ONS data based on rates.
4 Only you were crowing. But it's still irrelevant.
5 Relevance to Covid?
6 Physics didn't come into the 2016 referendum. That was politics. But the referendum is still irrelevant to Covid. Ever heard of a Phyrric victory? It's what I think you "won" in 2016.


Its not sinking in because he only hears what he wants to hear.
I guess thats why BoJo has been successful.
Because he tells people what they want to hear, irrespective of the truth.
Only a minority fall for it, but with a divided opposition BoJo can win with a minority vote.
userBarryd999
Posted: 2 August 2020 1:38 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-08-02 10:07 AM

Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!
userBulletguy
Posted: 2 August 2020 3:46 PM
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Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:45 PM

suggest you check facts. Number of infections and deaths in Wales , Northern Ireland and Scotland in the last week alone.
Number of deaths and infections in England. There is a big problem with the pandemic in England and your leader and the media are not telling you the full story and too many people are just accepting the false guidance and instruction you are getting. People are sill being infected and dying and in big numbers in England.

Since Johnson began spouting his Brexit mantras, "oven ready", "get it done", "check, change, go" etc etc, Pelmet has been a fanatical adherent to the cult so i'm afraid nothing you say will get through.
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Posted: 2 August 2020 3:50 PM
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Barryd999 - 2020-08-02 1:38 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-02 10:07 AM

Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!

Yet he mocks Abbott over figures! He'll just shift the goal posts around to try and excuse his figures!
userBarryd999
Posted: 2 August 2020 5:33 PM
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Bulletguy - 2020-08-02 3:50 PM

Barryd999 - 2020-08-02 1:38 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-02 10:07 AM

Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!

Yet he mocks Abbott over figures! He'll just shift the goal posts around to try and excuse his figures!


Wales not done so well though. Full of English Brexiteers!! Maybe they will all kill themselves off and we can just forget all about Brexit!
userJohn52
Posted: 5 August 2020 6:59 AM
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New report confirms the obvious. Infected people were flooding into the UK whilst BoJo was avoiding Cobra meetings to go round shaking hands.

'The UK was almost unique in having no border checks or quarantine arrangements at that time.'
'The report says the Home Office and other government departments have failed to provide the committee with the scientific advice behind its decisions despite repeated requests.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/05/lack-of-special-border-measures-before-uk-coronavirus-lockdown-was-serious-mistake
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Posted: 5 August 2020 9:42 AM
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John52 - 2020-08-05 6:59 AM

New report confirms the obvious. Infected people were flooding into the UK whilst BoJo was avoiding Cobra meetings to go round shaking hands.

'The UK was almost unique in having no border checks or quarantine arrangements at that time.'
'The report says the Home Office and other government departments have failed to provide the committee with the scientific advice behind its decisions despite repeated requests.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/05/lack-of-special-border-measures-before-uk-coronavirus-lockdown-was-serious-mistake


Its what some of us have been saying from the start. Barmy decisions and they refuse to share the science and data with anyone. The science and data will be the new Russia report I guess down the line.

Edited by Barryd999 2020-08-05 9:42 AM
userpelmetman
Posted: 5 August 2020 9:58 AM
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John52 - 2020-08-05 6:59 AM

New report confirms the obvious. Infected people were flooding into the UK whilst BoJo was avoiding Cobra meetings to go round shaking hands.

'The UK was almost unique in having no border checks or quarantine arrangements at that time.'
'The report says the Home Office and other government departments have failed to provide the committee with the scientific advice behind its decisions despite repeated requests.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/05/lack-of-special-border-measures-before-uk-coronavirus-lockdown-was-serious-mistake


More Loser Hogwash .........

The only checks at the border between France & Spain was to ensure we had a piece of paper in French saying where we were going ..........

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Posted: 5 August 2020 10:04 AM
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pelmetman - 2020-08-05 9:58 AM

John52 - 2020-08-05 6:59 AM

New report confirms the obvious. Infected people were flooding into the UK whilst BoJo was avoiding Cobra meetings to go round shaking hands.

'The UK was almost unique in having no border checks or quarantine arrangements at that time.'
'The report says the Home Office and other government departments have failed to provide the committee with the scientific advice behind its decisions despite repeated requests.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/05/lack-of-special-border-measures-before-uk-coronavirus-lockdown-was-serious-mistake


More Loser Hogwash .........

The only checks at the border between France & Spain was to ensure we had a piece of paper in French saying where we were going ..........



Yes and I gather the French were quite strict with that. The whole point being that if you did not have a valid reason for travel you were fined and sent back. Do you have any idea of the amount of people that come into or transit the uk?
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Posted: 5 August 2020 10:05 AM
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Barryd999 - 2020-08-02 1:38 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-02 10:07 AM

Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!


"2,491 people have died who have tested positive, and 4,201 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Hmmm selective counting from our resident LLLLB ...........
userpelmetman
Posted: 5 August 2020 10:07 AM
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Barryd999 - 2020-08-05 10:04 AM

pelmetman - 2020-08-05 9:58 AM

John52 - 2020-08-05 6:59 AM

New report confirms the obvious. Infected people were flooding into the UK whilst BoJo was avoiding Cobra meetings to go round shaking hands.

'The UK was almost unique in having no border checks or quarantine arrangements at that time.'
'The report says the Home Office and other government departments have failed to provide the committee with the scientific advice behind its decisions despite repeated requests.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/05/lack-of-special-border-measures-before-uk-coronavirus-lockdown-was-serious-mistake


More Loser Hogwash .........

The only checks at the border between France & Spain was to ensure we had a piece of paper in French saying where we were going ..........



Yes and I gather the French were quite strict with that. The whole point being that if you did not have a valid reason for travel you were fined and sent back. Do you have any idea of the amount of people that come into or transit the uk?


A piece of paper is not a health check .............

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Posted: 5 August 2020 12:05 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-08-05 9:58 AM
Loser


Name calling may be still a substitute for reasoned argument in the Daily Mail,
but I think the readership here can see through it.
userJohn52
Posted: 5 August 2020 12:16 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-08-05 10:07 AM

Barryd999 - 2020-08-05 10:04 AM
Do you have any idea of the amount of people that come into or transit the uk?


A piece of paper is not a health check .............



Thats not an answer either is it?
The fact is nothing was done in early March whilst other countries were sourcing PPE and controlling their borders.
So despite starting out in the strongest position surrounded by water, we now have the highest excess deaths in the EU. No amount of name calling will distract us from that.
Our Government was paralysed because the Prime Minister avoided 5 Cobra meetings to go round ignoring social distancing till he caught the virus himself. Then he clung on to power whilst totally incapacitated. So by the time Government was restored it was too late.
He tried to over compensate by enforcing 2 metre distancing on our factories, putting them at another huge disadvantage to their EU competitors.
Now has swung to the other extreme by reducing it to 1 metre with no face masks in pubs! and a taxpayer funded subsidy to encourage it which is another recipe for fraud.
So, surprise surprise, infections are rising again.
userBulletguy
Posted: 5 August 2020 1:51 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-08-05 9:58 AM

John52 - 2020-08-05 6:59 AM

New report confirms the obvious. Infected people were flooding into the UK whilst BoJo was avoiding Cobra meetings to go round shaking hands.

'The UK was almost unique in having no border checks or quarantine arrangements at that time.'
'The report says the Home Office and other government departments have failed to provide the committee with the scientific advice behind its decisions despite repeated requests.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/05/lack-of-special-border-measures-before-uk-coronavirus-lockdown-was-serious-mistake


More Loser Hogwash .........

Try saying that to someone whose needlessly lost a loved one.


The only checks at the border between France & Spain was to ensure we had a piece of paper in French saying where we were going ..........

That's the point the article raises if you'd bothered to read it. Unlike Europe, UK never bothered with checks and allowed folk to wander in. It's common knowledge after NZ lifted it's strict lockdown, it had to quarantine two tourists who checked positive for Covid....both Brits.
userpelmetman
Posted: 5 August 2020 2:18 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-08-05 10:07 AM

Barryd999 - 2020-08-05 10:04 AM
Do you have any idea of the amount of people that come into or transit the uk?


A piece of paper is not a health check .............



Thats not an answer either is it?
The fact is nothing was done in early March whilst other countries were sourcing PPE and controlling their borders.


You mean like Scotland and Wales? ..........

But you prefer to ignore that Ol Fishface had just the same issues as Boris dontcha? ........

userBarryd999
Posted: 5 August 2020 3:54 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-08-05 10:05 AM

Barryd999 - 2020-08-02 1:38 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-02 10:07 AM

Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!


"2,491 people have died who have tested positive, and 4,201 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Hmmm selective counting from our resident LLLLB ...........


There was similar selective accounting going on in England also but no matter how you dress it up the death rate in both Scotland and NI is massively less than England.
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Posted: 5 August 2020 4:03 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-08-05 2:18 PM

John52 - 2020-08-05 12:16 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-05 10:07 AM

Barryd999 - 2020-08-05 10:04 AM
Do you have any idea of the amount of people that come into or transit the uk?


A piece of paper is not a health check .............



Thats not an answer either is it?
The fact is nothing was done in early March whilst other countries were sourcing PPE and controlling their borders.


You mean like Scotland and Wales? ..........

But you prefer to ignore that Ol Fishface had just the same issues as Boris dontcha? ........



Can you have a sensible discussion without just more name calling and changing the subject?
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Barryd999 - 2020-08-02 1:38 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-02 10:07 AM

Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!


"2,491 people have died who have tested positive, and 4,201 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Hmmm selective counting from our resident LLLLB ...........


There was similar selective accounting going on in England also but no matter how you dress it up the death rate in both Scotland and NI is massively less than England.


Both Scotland and NI have far less percentage wise BAME population than England ... The BAME community has as you know accounted for a lot of the deaths here in England as Covid 19 is racist
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Birdbrain - 2020-08-05 4:05 PM

Barryd999 - 2020-08-05 3:54 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-05 10:05 AM

Barryd999 - 2020-08-02 1:38 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-02 10:07 AM

Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!


"2,491 people have died who have tested positive, and 4,201 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Hmmm selective counting from our resident LLLLB ...........


There was similar selective accounting going on in England also but no matter how you dress it up the death rate in both Scotland and NI is massively less than England.


Both Scotland and NI have far less percentage wise BAME population than England ... The BAME community has as you know accounted for a lot of the deaths here in England as Covid 19 is racist


Is it far less? Quick google says 81% white England, 84% white Scotland.

There are many factors of course I think as to why England has a much higher rate of infection than Scotland and the entire world and these will include.

1. England is led by a moron and and evil Bond Villain
2. English exceptionalism
3. Way too many idiots (of all colours)
4. Way too many people coming in without checks or quarantine. Probably much less in Scotland and NI.
5. Our government sat on their arses for too long (take it on the chin, shake hands)
6. Government refused to share data or science
7. Failed to maintain adequate stockpile of PPE and other essential Pandemic stocks
8. Failed to learn lessons from 2016 Operation Cygnus exercise and 2019 warnings of Pandemic and depleted supplies
9. Busy campaigning for Brexit Gongs
10. Brexit and Brexit again more important to the ToryKippers and those that voted for them and it.

How am I doing so far?



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Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!


"2,491 people have died who have tested positive, and 4,201 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Hmmm selective counting from our resident LLLLB ...........


There was similar selective accounting going on in England also but no matter how you dress it up the death rate in both Scotland and NI is massively less than England.


Both Scotland and NI have far less percentage wise BAME population than England ... The BAME community has as you know accounted for a lot of the deaths here in England as Covid 19 is racist


Is it far less? Quick google says 81% white England, 84% white Scotland.

There are many factors of course I think as to why England has a much higher rate of infection than Scotland and the entire world and these will include.

1. England is led by a moron and and evil Bond Villain
2. English exceptionalism
3. Way too many idiots (of all colours)
4. Way too many people coming in without checks or quarantine. Probably much less in Scotland and NI.
5. Our government sat on their arses for too long (take it on the chin, shake hands)
6. Government refused to share data or science
7. Failed to maintain adequate stockpile of PPE and other essential Pandemic stocks
8. Failed to learn lessons from 2016 Operation Cygnus exercise and 2019 warnings of Pandemic and depleted supplies
9. Busy campaigning for Brexit Gongs
10. Brexit and Brexit again more important to the ToryKippers and those that voted for them and it.

How am I doing so far?





Feck knows who's doing your Scottish percentages ... Your Labour love Miss Diane maybe ??? ... Your 1-10 is as pointless as you
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Barryd999 - 2020-08-02 1:38 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-02 10:07 AM

Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!


"2,491 people have died who have tested positive, and 4,201 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Hmmm selective counting from our resident LLLLB ...........


There was similar selective accounting going on in England also but no matter how you dress it up the death rate in both Scotland and NI is massively less than England.


Both Scotland and NI have far less percentage wise BAME population than England ... The BAME community has as you know accounted for a lot of the deaths here in England as Covid 19 is racist


Is it far less? Quick google says 81% white England, 84% white Scotland.



Your google is different to my google? ...........

"This statistic shows the distribution of non-white ethnic backgrounds in Scotland in 2018. 96 percent of the population identified as white. The next highest ethnic group was Asians with 2.6 percent."

https://www.statista.com/statistics/367842/scotland-ethnicity-of-population/

Perhaps you can back up your claim with a link?...........Coz 96% is a lot different to 84% ..........

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Barryd999 - 2020-08-05 3:54 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-05 10:05 AM

Barryd999 - 2020-08-02 1:38 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-02 10:07 AM

Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!


"2,491 people have died who have tested positive, and 4,201 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Hmmm selective counting from our resident LLLLB ...........


There was similar selective accounting going on in England also but no matter how you dress it up the death rate in both Scotland and NI is massively less than England.


Both Scotland and NI have far less percentage wise BAME population than England ... The BAME community has as you know accounted for a lot of the deaths here in England as Covid 19 is racist


Is it far less? Quick google says 81% white England, 84% white Scotland.



Your google is different to my google? ...........

"This statistic shows the distribution of non-white ethnic backgrounds in Scotland in 2018. 96 percent of the population identified as white. The next highest ethnic group was Asians with 2.6 percent."

https://www.statista.com/statistics/367842/scotland-ethnicity-of-population/

Perhaps you can back up your claim with a link?...........Coz 96% is a lot different to 84% ..........



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British#:~:text=In%20the%202011%20census%2C%20the,is%20used%20in%20ethnic%20classification.

https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/ethnicity-identity-language-and-religion#:~:text=In%202011%2C%2084%25%20of%20Scotland's,'White%3A%20Other%20British'.

Both those from census data. If you add in the "White other" which is Gypsies and funny foreigners its 91.9% white in Scotland. Higher than England but not massively so. There are more white people in many regions in England than there are on average in Scotland including the north East.
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Barryd999 - 2020-08-02 1:38 PM

pelmetman - 2020-08-02 10:07 AM

Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!


"2,491 people have died who have tested positive, and 4,201 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Hmmm selective counting from our resident LLLLB ...........


There was similar selective accounting going on in England also but no matter how you dress it up the death rate in both Scotland and NI is massively less than England.


Both Scotland and NI have far less percentage wise BAME population than England ... The BAME community has as you know accounted for a lot of the deaths here in England as Covid 19 is racist


Is it far less? Quick google says 81% white England, 84% white Scotland.



Your google is different to my google? ...........

"This statistic shows the distribution of non-white ethnic backgrounds in Scotland in 2018. 96 percent of the population identified as white. The next highest ethnic group was Asians with 2.6 percent."

https://www.statista.com/statistics/367842/scotland-ethnicity-of-population/

Perhaps you can back up your claim with a link?...........Coz 96% is a lot different to 84% ..........



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British#:~:text=In%20the%202011%20census%2C%20the,is%20used%20in%20ethnic%20classification.

https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/ethnicity-identity-language-and-religion#:~:text=In%202011%2C%2084%25%20of%20Scotland's,'White%3A%20Other%20British'.

Both those from census data. If you add in the "White other" which is Gypsies and funny foreigners its 91.9% white in Scotland. Higher than England but not massively so. There are more white people in many regions in England than there are on average in Scotland including the north East.


So you admit your 84% claim is complete b*llocks? ..........

BTW 12% is a massive difference ..........

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pelmetman - 2020-08-02 10:07 AM

Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!


"2,491 people have died who have tested positive, and 4,201 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Hmmm selective counting from our resident LLLLB ...........


There was similar selective accounting going on in England also but no matter how you dress it up the death rate in both Scotland and NI is massively less than England.


Both Scotland and NI have far less percentage wise BAME population than England ... The BAME community has as you know accounted for a lot of the deaths here in England as Covid 19 is racist


Is it far less? Quick google says 81% white England, 84% white Scotland.



Your google is different to my google? ...........

"This statistic shows the distribution of non-white ethnic backgrounds in Scotland in 2018. 96 percent of the population identified as white. The next highest ethnic group was Asians with 2.6 percent."

https://www.statista.com/statistics/367842/scotland-ethnicity-of-population/

Perhaps you can back up your claim with a link?...........Coz 96% is a lot different to 84% ..........



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British#:~:text=In%20the%202011%20census%2C%20the,is%20used%20in%20ethnic%20classification.

https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/ethnicity-identity-language-and-religion#:~:text=In%202011%2C%2084%25%20of%20Scotland's,'White%3A%20Other%20British'.

Both those from census data. If you add in the "White other" which is Gypsies and funny foreigners its 91.9% white in Scotland. Higher than England but not massively so. There are more white people in many regions in England than there are on average in Scotland including the north East.


So you admit your 84% claim is complete b*llocks? ..........

BTW 12% is a massive difference ..........



No it isnt (a massive difference). What is a massive difference is the lower death rate percentage in Scotland compared to England.

The 84% is who claimed to be White Scottish I believe. As I said, it was a quick google but the difference is not as massive as you thought it was.
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pelmetman - 2020-08-02 10:07 AM

Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!


"2,491 people have died who have tested positive, and 4,201 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Hmmm selective counting from our resident LLLLB ...........


There was similar selective accounting going on in England also but no matter how you dress it up the death rate in both Scotland and NI is massively less than England.


Both Scotland and NI have far less percentage wise BAME population than England ... The BAME community has as you know accounted for a lot of the deaths here in England as Covid 19 is racist


Is it far less? Quick google says 81% white England, 84% white Scotland.



Your google is different to my google? ...........

"This statistic shows the distribution of non-white ethnic backgrounds in Scotland in 2018. 96 percent of the population identified as white. The next highest ethnic group was Asians with 2.6 percent."

https://www.statista.com/statistics/367842/scotland-ethnicity-of-population/

Perhaps you can back up your claim with a link?...........Coz 96% is a lot different to 84% ..........



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British#:~:text=In%20the%202011%20census%2C%20the,is%20used%20in%20ethnic%20classification.

https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/ethnicity-identity-language-and-religion#:~:text=In%202011%2C%2084%25%20of%20Scotland's,'White%3A%20Other%20British'.

Both those from census data. If you add in the "White other" which is Gypsies and funny foreigners its 91.9% white in Scotland. Higher than England but not massively so. There are more white people in many regions in England than there are on average in Scotland including the north East.


So you admit your 84% claim is complete b*llocks? ..........

BTW 12% is a massive difference ..........



No it isnt (a massive difference). What is a massive difference is the lower death rate percentage in Scotland compared to England.

The 84% is who claimed to be White Scottish I believe. As I said, it was a quick google but the difference is not as massive as you thought it was.


Oh yes it is .........

Especially when you consider the BAME population of England is bigger than Scotlands total population ..........

Edited by pelmetman 2020-08-06 1:53 PM
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Mikey - 2020-08-01 11:48 PM

forgot to say
coronavirus death figures for July
NI 5
Sc 6
Wa 46
En 2,230

You can understand why the media & UK Gov dress up the results as the UK figures. Doing everything to hide their incompetence. UK & England are interchangeable as far as media us concerned.


You also forgot to say.......

Population .........

NI .........1,881,600

Sc.........5.4 million

Wal ......3.1 million

En.........54 million

Which kinda puts things into perspective does it not? ........



Not if you get your calculator out it doesnt. Population of Scotland is a tenth of England so times their death figure by 10. Do you get 2230 deaths? Do you fcuk!


"2,491 people have died who have tested positive, and 4,201 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Hmmm selective counting from our resident LLLLB ...........


There was similar selective accounting going on in England also but no matter how you dress it up the death rate in both Scotland and NI is massively less than England.


Both Scotland and NI have far less percentage wise BAME population than England ... The BAME community has as you know accounted for a lot of the deaths here in England as Covid 19 is racist


Is it far less? Quick google says 81% white England, 84% white Scotland.



Your google is different to my google? ...........

"This statistic shows the distribution of non-white ethnic backgrounds in Scotland in 2018. 96 percent of the population identified as white. The next highest ethnic group was Asians with 2.6 percent."

https://www.statista.com/statistics/367842/scotland-ethnicity-of-population/

Perhaps you can back up your claim with a link?...........Coz 96% is a lot different to 84% ..........



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British#:~:text=In%20the%202011%20census%2C%20the,is%20used%20in%20ethnic%20classification.

https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/ethnicity-identity-language-and-religion#:~:text=In%202011%2C%2084%25%20of%20Scotland's,'White%3A%20Other%20British'.

Both those from census data. If you add in the "White other" which is Gypsies and funny foreigners its 91.9% white in Scotland. Higher than England but not massively so. There are more white people in many regions in England than there are on average in Scotland including the north East.


So you admit your 84% claim is complete b*llocks? ..........

BTW 12% is a massive difference ..........



No it isnt (a massive difference). What is a massive difference is the lower death rate percentage in Scotland compared to England.

The 84% is who claimed to be White Scottish I believe. As I said, it was a quick google but the difference is not as massive as you thought it was.


Oh yes it is .........

Especially when you consider the BAME population of England is bigger than Scotlands total population ..........


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