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userBulletguy
Posted: 2 February 2019 8:02 PM
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The government has drawn up plans to replace the CE safety symbol on products in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

Household items such as kettles, light bulbs and toys are stamped with the letters CE.

The mark belongs to the European Union, so if Britain leaves the EU without a deal, goods will have to be stamped with a new symbol - UKCA. Some manufacturers are concerned that such a change will be costly.

"In a very short period of time, thousands of companies are going to have to spend millions of pounds collectively on changing all their markings to comply with the new mark," Stephen Phipson, chief executive of the manufacturers' organisation EEF, told the BBC.

Ah well, the cost will simply be passed on to the customer.......like everything else.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47096621
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Posted: 2 February 2019 8:03 PM
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Oh dear Mr Negative has awoken from his coffin ........



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Posted: 2 February 2019 10:22 PM
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Posted: 3 February 2019 9:37 AM
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Bulletguy - 2019-02-02 10:22 PM


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Yep....... its more scaremongering as the cost will be changing a logo........which will involve a few clicks with a mouse ............

But hey?.......why let reality get in the way of a good scare story ..........

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Posted: 3 February 2019 1:22 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-02-03 9:37 AM

Bulletguy - 2019-02-02 10:22 PM


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Yep....... its more scaremongering as the cost will be changing a logo........which will involve a few clicks with a mouse ............

But hey?.......why let reality get in the way of a good scare story ..........



It would mean more than that in the steel company I worked for, it would mean someone had to get different stamp letters from out of the tin
anther wasted 2 mins.


userTracker
Posted: 3 February 2019 1:34 PM
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Long before the CE mark we had the BSI kite mark, so no big deal to use that again or whatever the government want to call it now.

One out of proportion molehill doth not a mountain make - again.
userBulletguy
Posted: 3 February 2019 4:54 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-02-03 9:37 AM

Bulletguy - 2019-02-02 10:22 PM


Do you have any comment to make about the thread topic?


Yep....... its more scaremongering as the cost will be changing a logo........which will involve a few clicks with a mouse ............

But hey?.......why let reality get in the way of a good scare story ..........

So CEO of the manufacturers organisation in UK doesn't know what he's talking about......but you do eh?

userteflon2
Posted: 3 February 2019 6:39 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-02-02 8:02 PM


The government has drawn up plans to replace the CE safety symbol on products in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

Household items such as kettles, light bulbs and toys are stamped with the letters CE.

The mark belongs to the European Union, so if Britain leaves the EU without a deal, goods will have to be stamped with a new symbol - UKCA. Some manufacturers are concerned that such a change will be costly.

"In a very short period of time, thousands of companies are going to have to spend millions of pounds collectively on changing all their markings to comply with the new mark," Stephen Phipson, chief executive of the manufacturers' organisation EEF, told the BBC.

Ah well, the cost will simply be passed on to the customer.......like everything else.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47096621




If the CE mark is as ineffective in other products as it was in motorcycle crash helmets then good riddance to it the BS kite mark was a recognised quality indicator, not so the EC which was so poor that the UK government had to introduce the SHARK testing protocol to ensure that the helmets were fit for effective protection. Helmets carrying the CE mark never even reached the minimum test level just plastic bowls with straps attached giving buyers a false sense of security,
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Posted: 3 February 2019 6:56 PM
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teflon2 - 2019-02-03 6:39 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-02-02 8:02 PM


The government has drawn up plans to replace the CE safety symbol on products in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

Household items such as kettles, light bulbs and toys are stamped with the letters CE.

The mark belongs to the European Union, so if Britain leaves the EU without a deal, goods will have to be stamped with a new symbol - UKCA. Some manufacturers are concerned that such a change will be costly.

"In a very short period of time, thousands of companies are going to have to spend millions of pounds collectively on changing all their markings to comply with the new mark," Stephen Phipson, chief executive of the manufacturers' organisation EEF, told the BBC.

Ah well, the cost will simply be passed on to the customer.......like everything else.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47096621




If the CE mark is as ineffective in other products as it was in motorcycle crash helmets then good riddance to it the BS kite mark was a recognised quality indicator, not so the EC which was so poor that the UK government had to introduce the SHARK testing protocol to ensure that the helmets were fit for effective protection. Helmets carrying the CE mark never even reached the minimum test level just plastic bowls with straps attached giving buyers a false sense of security,

According to UK Gov they're still used and must "offer at least the same safety and protection as BS 6658:1985, and carry a mark equivalent to the BSI Kitemark".

Plenty of quality helmets made. Much depends on 1) specific purpose (car/bike) and 2) how much the buyer is prepared to pay.

https://www.gov.uk/motorcycle-helmet-law
userteflon2
Posted: 6 February 2019 7:14 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-02-03 6:56 PM

teflon2 - 2019-02-03 6:39 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-02-02 8:02 PM


The government has drawn up plans to replace the CE safety symbol on products in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

Household items such as kettles, light bulbs and toys are stamped with the letters CE.

The mark belongs to the European Union, so if Britain leaves the EU without a deal, goods will have to be stamped with a new symbol - UKCA. Some manufacturers are concerned that such a change will be costly.

"In a very short period of time, thousands of companies are going to have to spend millions of pounds collectively on changing all their markings to comply with the new mark," Stephen Phipson, chief executive of the manufacturers' organisation EEF, told the BBC.

Ah well, the cost will simply be passed on to the customer.......like everything else.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47096621




If the CE mark is as ineffective in other products as it was in motorcycle crash helmets then good riddance to it the BS kite mark was a recognised quality indicator, not so the EC which was so poor that the UK government had to introduce the SHARK testing protocol to ensure that the helmets were fit for effective protection. Helmets carrying the CE mark never even reached the minimum test level just plastic bowls with straps attached giving buyers a false sense of security,

According to UK Gov they're still used and must "offer at least the same safety and protection as BS 6658:1985, and carry a mark equivalent to the BSI Kitemark".

Plenty of quality helmets made. Much depends on 1) specific purpose (car/bike) and 2) how much the buyer is prepared to pay.

https://www.gov.uk/motorcycle-helmet-law




The problem with the EC mark is that it is self certifying so is open to cheating and fraud thus crash helmets on shelves not fit for purpose and the recent VW exhaust emissions cheat from a normally trustworthy company.
The BSI certification is a protocol carried out by a third party thus removing the ability to falsify results. The BSI marking is used and trusted by over 180 countries worldwide showing a global awareness but the EC mark is is EU oriented showing a parochial attitude.
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