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pottypam - 2019-03-06 9:28 AM

 

No problem for us. When at home, we only buy UK meat. Our local butcher knows where his meat comes from and is probably related to the farmer.

 

Thats nice. What about those that cant afford to do that? if our supermarkets are flooded with cheap rubbish from the USA it is going to force out of business a lot of our local producers and farmers. As a result it could force out of business your local butcher. Many will just buy the cheapest produce because they have no choice.

 

 

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Violet1956 - 2019-03-06 9:08 AM

 

I think the issue is whether it will be labelled as chlorinated thereby giving the consumer the choice to avoid it. The labelling of food is covered by EU regulations at present.

 

So why do we have a Food Standards Agency? ;-) ...........

 

 

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Barryd999 - 2019-03-06 9:37 AM

 

pottypam - 2019-03-06 9:28 AM

 

No problem for us. When at home, we only buy UK meat. Our local butcher knows where his meat comes from and is probably related to the farmer.

 

Thats nice. What about those that cant afford to do that? if our supermarkets are flooded with cheap rubbish from the USA it is going to force out of business a lot of our local producers and farmers. As a result it could force out of business your local butcher. Many will just buy the cheapest produce because they have no choice.

 

 

Here you go Barry ;-) ........

 

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2018/09/fsa-seeks-views-on-transition-of-eu-law-ahead-of-brexit/

 

You can let em know you don't want US chicken, but you happy to eat Halal Kebab sh*te :D ........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2019-03-06 9:54 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2019-03-06 9:08 AM

 

I think the issue is whether it will be labelled as chlorinated thereby giving the consumer the choice to avoid it. The labelling of food is covered by EU regulations at present.

 

So why do we have a Food Standards Agency? ;-) ...........

 

 

Can't be answered in a few sentences. Here's the website

 

https://www.food.gov.uk/

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Violet1956 - 2019-03-06 10:04 AM

 

pelmetman - 2019-03-06 9:54 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2019-03-06 9:08 AM

 

I think the issue is whether it will be labelled as chlorinated thereby giving the consumer the choice to avoid it. The labelling of food is covered by EU regulations at present.

 

So why do we have a Food Standards Agency? ;-) ...........

 

 

Can't be answered in a few sentences. Here's the website

 

https://www.food.gov.uk/

 

I can answer in one sentence ;-) ..............

 

They'll be regulating our food, ie safety, labeling etc etc etc :D .......

 

 

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Barryd999 - 2019-03-06 9:37 AM

 

pottypam - 2019-03-06 9:28 AM

 

No problem for us. When at home, we only buy UK meat. Our local butcher knows where his meat comes from and is probably related to the farmer.

 

Thats nice. What about those that cant afford to do that? if our supermarkets are flooded with cheap rubbish from the USA it is going to force out of business a lot of our local producers and farmers. As a result it could force out of business your local butcher. Many will just buy the cheapest produce because they have no choice.

 

 

Dont be silly ... Butchers shops are running along quite nicely as are farm shops ... Where is your new found convern for butchers when supermarkets like Aldi and Lidl undercut them with at times inferior quality meat ??? .... More Barry hysterics

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pelmetman - 2019-03-06 10:13 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2019-03-06 10:04 AM

 

pelmetman - 2019-03-06 9:54 AM

 

Violet1956 - 2019-03-06 9:08 AM

 

I think the issue is whether it will be labelled as chlorinated thereby giving the consumer the choice to avoid it. The labelling of food is covered by EU regulations at present.

 

So why do we have a Food Standards Agency? ;-) ...........

 

 

Can't be answered in a few sentences. Here's the website

 

https://www.food.gov.uk/

 

I can answer in one sentence ;-) ..............

 

They'll be regulating our food, ie safety, labeling etc etc etc :D .......

 

 

I understand that but some of the standards they monitor and enforce at present come directly from EU regulations and there an EU system of tracking food sources etc. The article you posted raises a number of issue of concerns from or addressed to the FSA about the efficacy of monitoring systems once we leave and quotes a concern raised by British Poultry Council chief executive, Richard Griffiths, who has said food is a special case and

“Government must ensure that British food, and the quality it represents, stays affordable and available for all. If we cannot support our own production, then there will emerge a two-tier food system with the average citizen forced to rely on lower standard imports.”

 

Are UK manufacturers of things like chicken nuggets going to be forced to say if they contain chlorinated chicken, perhaps they will, but I am not aware that any such promise has been given by the government. Will big business hold sway over goverment policy more than the consumer choice? Who knows?

 

 

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pelmetman - 2019-03-06 9:56 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2019-03-06 9:37 AM

 

pottypam - 2019-03-06 9:28 AM

 

No problem for us. When at home, we only buy UK meat. Our local butcher knows where his meat comes from and is probably related to the farmer.

 

Thats nice. What about those that cant afford to do that? if our supermarkets are flooded with cheap rubbish from the USA it is going to force out of business a lot of our local producers and farmers. As a result it could force out of business your local butcher. Many will just buy the cheapest produce because they have no choice.

 

 

Here you go Barry ;-) ........

 

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2018/09/fsa-seeks-views-on-transition-of-eu-law-ahead-of-brexit/

 

You can let em know you don't want US chicken, but you happy to eat Halal Kebab sh*te :D ........

 

 

Do you not read your own links?

 

Food and Drink Federation chief executive, Ian Wright, said a no deal would be a “grisly” prospect for the sector.

 

“There is no sign of further progress on negotiating frameworks with the devolved administrations. There is no substantive information on mitigating the effect of ‘no deal’ on the island of Ireland, where the implications would be most significant,” Wright said.

 

“Moreover, the UK food industry will doubt that the government could replace TRACES (the EU Trade Control and Expert System that tracks the entire trade and certification process for animals, food, feed and plants) with a new, comprehensive, functional UK alternative IT system in time for the end of March.”

 

British Poultry Council chief executive, Richard Griffiths, said food is a special case.

 

“Government must ensure that British food, and the quality it represents, stays affordable and available for all. If we cannot support our own production, then there will emerge a two-tier food system with the average citizen forced to rely on lower standard imports,” Griffiths said.

 

The USA has already stated we have to lower our standards if we want a trade deal with them AND make sure there is no hard border in Northern Ireland as a result of Brexit.

 

What the Food standards agency wants and what the USA wants are two separate things. You cant have both as you cannot also be in alignment with EU regulations and satisfy what the USA wants.

 

So which is it going to be? USA or Europe and current UK standards?

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Barryd999 - 2019-03-06 9:37 AM

 

pottypam - 2019-03-06 9:28 AM

 

No problem for us. When at home, we only buy UK meat. Our local butcher knows where his meat comes from and is probably related to the farmer.

 

Thats nice. What about those that cant afford to do that? if our supermarkets are flooded with cheap rubbish from the USA it is going to force out of business a lot of our local producers and farmers. As a result it could force out of business your local butcher. Many will just buy the cheapest produce because they have no choice.

 

Aldi already sell cheaper meat than our butcher and their fresh meat comes from British farmers. Unfortunately a lot of their packs are too big for a couple. We have stopped buying chicken sandwiches from Tesco as the chicken in them comes from Thailand. Hopefully, food labelling with country of origin will continue.
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Barryd999 - 2019-03-06 10:54 AM

 

pelmetman - 2019-03-06 9:56 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2019-03-06 9:37 AM

 

pottypam - 2019-03-06 9:28 AM

 

No problem for us. When at home, we only buy UK meat. Our local butcher knows where his meat comes from and is probably related to the farmer.

 

Thats nice. What about those that cant afford to do that? if our supermarkets are flooded with cheap rubbish from the USA it is going to force out of business a lot of our local producers and farmers. As a result it could force out of business your local butcher. Many will just buy the cheapest produce because they have no choice.

 

 

Here you go Barry ;-) ........

 

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2018/09/fsa-seeks-views-on-transition-of-eu-law-ahead-of-brexit/

 

You can let em know you don't want US chicken, but you happy to eat Halal Kebab sh*te :D ........

 

 

Do you not read your own links?

 

Food and Drink Federation chief executive, Ian Wright, said a no deal would be a “grisly” prospect for the sector.

 

“There is no sign of further progress on negotiating frameworks with the devolved administrations. There is no substantive information on mitigating the effect of ‘no deal’ on the island of Ireland, where the implications would be most significant,” Wright said.

 

“Moreover, the UK food industry will doubt that the government could replace TRACES (the EU Trade Control and Expert System that tracks the entire trade and certification process for animals, food, feed and plants) with a new, comprehensive, functional UK alternative IT system in time for the end of March.”

 

British Poultry Council chief executive, Richard Griffiths, said food is a special case.

 

“Government must ensure that British food, and the quality it represents, stays affordable and available for all. If we cannot support our own production, then there will emerge a two-tier food system with the average citizen forced to rely on lower standard imports,” Griffiths said.

 

The USA has already stated we have to lower our standards if we want a trade deal with them AND make sure there is no hard border in Northern Ireland as a result of Brexit.

 

What the Food standards agency wants and what the USA wants are two separate things. You cant have both as you cannot also be in alignment with EU regulations and satisfy what the USA wants.

 

So which is it going to be? USA or Europe and current UK standards?

 

The EU import US beef now ... The US is the worlds second largest exporter of chicken ... Can you show some stats for those countries importing US chicken that shows those who eat it are dropping like flies after eating it ??? ... You know sumat that all those countries importing it dont ... Did you eat chicken when you went to the US and have you eaten chicken outside of the EU like in Morroco ???

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According to a 2016 report in The Independent antibiotics that have been banned in the US for over a decade are widely used here in team UK to keep our chickens alive in filthy conditions ... Maybe we ought to get our own house in order first before having a go at those crazy Yanks ... Well having a go at POTUS Trump really
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Violet1956 - 2019-03-06 1:48 PM

 

The article in the link below explores the concerns about chlorinated chicken

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47440562

 

When was the last time you spent serious time in Yellow Belly country Veronica? ;-) .........

 

Do your folks live near a chicken farm? 8-) .......

 

Coz when we moved there in 2004 we didn't have a problem.......then the problem increased over the years as the EU banned certain chemicals :-| ........

 

By the time we left we were unable to BBQ because of them >:-( ........

 

So is less chemicals better than eating fly sh*t? *-) .........

 

Just asking? >:-) ........

 

 

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Sounds like a “chicken and egg” situation. Seems nuts to ban an import in case youTHINK it might lead to poor standards in an aboitoir. Check the aboitoir. Uk still has 20% birds infected between even without washing them in chlorine. We don’t live on a bacteria free planet.
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