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userFast Pat
Posted: 16 March 2019 10:58 AM
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Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 9:37 AM

It saddens me that in the wake of what just happened in Christchurch and other recent extremist attacks and following the raft of radical Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe over recent years that we cannot just be united in the condemnation of both instead of using them to point score. WTF is wrong with us today? Its just more division and its getting more extreme and we have seen where that leads. Its depressing.


Your right its depressing ... I've never blamed all Muslims for anything and let's be honest over the last 20 years those who do things in the name of that religion have done a lot ... We then have the Christchurch massacre and what does the loop that is Farty Pants do he blames me for the massacre ... I'm hardly going to sit back and agree Barry ... If by his daft logic he blames me and those like me for Christchurch then he has to accept by that same daft logic all Muslims are to blame for Manchester , London etc etc ... Hes a complete loop



"Another Muslim sex gang ... Sheffield this time ... https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/men-accused-of-sexually-abusing-and-threatening-sheffield-girl-appear-at-court-1-9645750 ... We still dont have a Muslim sex gang problem though"

"Maybe Veronica those who who carry out the acts have had to get smarter ... They no longer thank God have the police , social services and even government turning a blind eye ... We still have the same amount of vulnerable white girls and still have the same amount of Muslim males who have the same attitude towards white girls ... Unfortunately I dont think for a minute the abuse will have stopped"

"Respected reporter Mr Tommy Robinson back in court today ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ajdRUe6Yvw ... The harassment him and his family suffer for informing the public of ills MSM , the police and even Government dont want the public to know is a disgrace ... Hes a national treasure and I know when I say Chatterbox sends out its best wishes I talk for all of us ... xxx"

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Posted: 16 March 2019 11:10 AM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-16 9:52 AM

Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 9:37 AM

It saddens me that in the wake of what just happened in Christchurch and other recent extremist attacks and following the raft of radical Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe over recent years that we cannot just be united in the condemnation of both instead of using them to point score. WTF is wrong with us today? Its just more division and its getting more extreme and we have seen where that leads. Its depressing.


We are going to have to agree to differ on this one. Unless we tackle the dogwhistle politics and mainstream media that has led to this fear of the "other" then this will just be the first of many. Sadly.

Anthhhonys already started with his preemptive excuse "Suppose it was inevitable that a far right rise would happen ... A lot of folk fed up of years of being victims"


No doubt you'll be the first to start a thread about the next Islamic terrorist outrage? ...........

Or will you and your ilk just turn a blind eye as per usual ........

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Posted: 16 March 2019 11:22 AM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-16 11:10 AM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-16 9:52 AM

Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 9:37 AM

It saddens me that in the wake of what just happened in Christchurch and other recent extremist attacks and following the raft of radical Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe over recent years that we cannot just be united in the condemnation of both instead of using them to point score. WTF is wrong with us today? Its just more division and its getting more extreme and we have seen where that leads. Its depressing.


We are going to have to agree to differ on this one. Unless we tackle the dogwhistle politics and mainstream media that has led to this fear of the "other" then this will just be the first of many. Sadly.

Anthhhonys already started with his preemptive excuse "Suppose it was inevitable that a far right rise would happen ... A lot of folk fed up of years of being victims"


No doubt you'll be the first to start a thread about the next Islamic terrorist outrage? ...........

Or will you and your ilk just turn a blind eye as per usual ........



Nope, I'm alway happy to condemn such atrocities, I just don't seek to blame the peaceful majority for the actions of a few murderous bastards. Nor do I try to demonise people just because they're different.
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Posted: 16 March 2019 11:32 AM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-16 11:22 AM

pelmetman - 2019-03-16 11:10 AM

Fast Pat - 2019-03-16 9:52 AM

Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 9:37 AM

It saddens me that in the wake of what just happened in Christchurch and other recent extremist attacks and following the raft of radical Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe over recent years that we cannot just be united in the condemnation of both instead of using them to point score. WTF is wrong with us today? Its just more division and its getting more extreme and we have seen where that leads. Its depressing.


We are going to have to agree to differ on this one. Unless we tackle the dogwhistle politics and mainstream media that has led to this fear of the "other" then this will just be the first of many. Sadly.

Anthhhonys already started with his preemptive excuse "Suppose it was inevitable that a far right rise would happen ... A lot of folk fed up of years of being victims"


No doubt you'll be the first to start a thread about the next Islamic terrorist outrage? ...........

Or will you and your ilk just turn a blind eye as per usual ........



Nope, I'm alway happy to condemn such atrocities, I just don't seek to blame the peaceful majority for the actions of a few murderous bastards. Nor do I try to demonise people just because they're different.


No doubt come the next Islamic terrorist atrocity we can look forward to your condemnation ........

BTW have you any links of Corbyn condemning Islamic terrorists?........Because all I can find is pictures of him laying wreaths at their graves? .........

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Posted: 16 March 2019 11:39 AM
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Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 9:37 AM


WTF is wrong with us today?






Everyone is shouting - no-one is listening.



Correct. Joint condemnation is what we should be spouting but those that support radical views be it Radical Islamic views or Radical for right views both of which promote hate should be equally condemned. People like Tommy Robinson are not helping no more than radical and vocal Muslim Clerics are although the later seem to have gone underground these days. All they do is create further division, hatred and ultimately trigger violence from the thankfully small minority of nut jobs that are prepared to go out and kill in the name of their particular cause. They are escalating the problem.

Its just going to get worse until people start taking a more moderate view and reach out to those that they hold fear and contempt for on both sides.
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Posted: 16 March 2019 1:31 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 11:39 AM

malc d - 2019-03-16 9:55 AM

Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 9:37 AM


WTF is wrong with us today?






Everyone is shouting - no-one is listening.



Correct.


Its just going to get worse until people start taking a more moderate view and reach out to those that they hold fear and contempt for on both sides.



It's going to get a lot worse until social media is regulated in some way -

Increasing numbers of people are turning from main stream media, and are relying on social media for their " news " -

Main stream media is regulated - and can be held accountable for false information.

Social media is not, and is not required to tell the truth - and people will choose to believe whatever they see on there that fits their own agenda.

I can't imagine politicians, internationally, taking any action to sort the problem, in the near future.



Edited by malc d 2019-03-16 1:39 PM
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Posted: 16 March 2019 2:49 PM
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malc d - 2019-03-16 1:31 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 11:39 AM

malc d - 2019-03-16 9:55 AM

Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 9:37 AM


WTF is wrong with us today?






Everyone is shouting - no-one is listening.



Correct.


Its just going to get worse until people start taking a more moderate view and reach out to those that they hold fear and contempt for on both sides.



It's going to get a lot worse until social media is regulated in some way -

Increasing numbers of people are turning from main stream media, and are relying on social media for their " news " -

Main stream media is regulated - and can be held accountable for false information.

Social media is not, and is not required to tell the truth - and people will choose to believe whatever they see on there that fits their own agenda.

I can't imagine politicians, internationally, taking any action to sort the problem, in the near future.


Apparently Facebook were alerted by authorities but slow to take down the terrorists live stream during which time it got shared out to many other social media platforms (which would be outside the control of FB), and that's a big problem with social media. There is no excusing acts of terrorism mass murdering innocent people and those flippantly dismissive of Fridays atrocity need take a serious look at themselves.

"People will choose to believe whatever they see on there that fits their own agenda." This is the double edged sword of sm as it can, and has, been used to spread good. At the same time it can, and often is, used to promote or incite hate which is very easy to feed into the minds of people it's targeted at.

The advent of smartphone technology enabled social media use to rapidly increase. You only need be in any public place to see that. Without the smartphone social media would just be another app people might use occasionally.
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Posted: 16 March 2019 3:45 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 11:39 AM

malc d - 2019-03-16 9:55 AM

Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 9:37 AM


WTF is wrong with us today?






Everyone is shouting - no-one is listening.



Correct. Joint condemnation is what we should be spouting but those that support radical views be it Radical Islamic views or Radical for right views both of which promote hate should be equally condemned. People like Tommy Robinson are not helping no more than radical and vocal Muslim Clerics are although the later seem to have gone underground these days. All they do is create further division, hatred and ultimately trigger violence from the thankfully small minority of nut jobs that are prepared to go out and kill in the name of their particular cause. They are escalating the problem.

Its just going to get worse until people start taking a more moderate view and reach out to those that they hold fear and contempt for on both sides.


If it wasn't for the Tommy Robinson's of this world you fluffy wuffy liberals would still be turning a blind eye to the rape of children .......

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Posted: 16 March 2019 4:35 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-03-16 3:45 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 11:39 AM

malc d - 2019-03-16 9:55 AM

Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 9:37 AM


WTF is wrong with us today?






Everyone is shouting - no-one is listening.



Correct. Joint condemnation is what we should be spouting but those that support radical views be it Radical Islamic views or Radical for right views both of which promote hate should be equally condemned. People like Tommy Robinson are not helping no more than radical and vocal Muslim Clerics are although the later seem to have gone underground these days. All they do is create further division, hatred and ultimately trigger violence from the thankfully small minority of nut jobs that are prepared to go out and kill in the name of their particular cause. They are escalating the problem.

Its just going to get worse until people start taking a more moderate view and reach out to those that they hold fear and contempt for on both sides.


If it wasn't for the Tommy Robinson's of this world you fluffy wuffy liberals would still be turning a blind eye to the rape of children .......



What a load of bollox you talk. Tommy Robinsons agenda is to stir up hatred towards Islam. He isnt going around catching rapists and abusers. If that was his agenda why is he not targeting none Muslim sickos and there are plenty of those? Didnt one of his own members get charged with such an offence? To infer that "you fluffy wuffy liberals" turn a blind eye to such things is insulting on two fronts. First of all Im not a fluffy wuffy liberal and secondly who the feck is turning a blind eye to any of this stuff?

Its more sensational to report when it turns out to be a group or a ring if you like of groomers and sickos that have committed such crimes and not as dramatic to report a single sad white and christian sicko who acts alone but unfortunately there are way too many occurrences of both but we dont need Tommy Robinson whipping up hatred as if its purely a Muslim thing. How exactly does that help heal the ever decreasing divide and hatred between two cultures and prevent stuff like Christchurch happening? Unless of course thats what some people want to happen.

Edited by Barryd999 2019-03-16 4:35 PM
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Posted: 16 March 2019 5:02 PM
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Fast Pat - 2019-03-16 10:58 AM

antony1969 - 2019-03-16 9:55 AM

Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 9:37 AM

It saddens me that in the wake of what just happened in Christchurch and other recent extremist attacks and following the raft of radical Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe over recent years that we cannot just be united in the condemnation of both instead of using them to point score. WTF is wrong with us today? Its just more division and its getting more extreme and we have seen where that leads. Its depressing.


Your right its depressing ... I've never blamed all Muslims for anything and let's be honest over the last 20 years those who do things in the name of that religion have done a lot ... We then have the Christchurch massacre and what does the loop that is Farty Pants do he blames me for the massacre ... I'm hardly going to sit back and agree Barry ... If by his daft logic he blames me and those like me for Christchurch then he has to accept by that same daft logic all Muslims are to blame for Manchester , London etc etc ... Hes a complete loop



"Another Muslim sex gang ... Sheffield this time ... https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/men-accused-of-sexually-abusing-and-threatening-sheffield-girl-appear-at-court-1-9645750 ... We still dont have a Muslim sex gang problem though"

"Maybe Veronica those who who carry out the acts have had to get smarter ... They no longer thank God have the police , social services and even government turning a blind eye ... We still have the same amount of vulnerable white girls and still have the same amount of Muslim males who have the same attitude towards white girls ... Unfortunately I dont think for a minute the abuse will have stopped"

"Respected reporter Mr Tommy Robinson back in court today ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ajdRUe6Yvw ... The harassment him and his family suffer for informing the public of ills MSM , the police and even Government dont want the public to know is a disgrace ... Hes a national treasure and I know when I say Chatterbox sends out its best wishes I talk for all of us ... xxx"

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https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/Brooklyn-Muslim-Security-Patrols/51244/

https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/World-Hijab-Day/51229/

Yes, its on you and the other hate peddlers



They are Muslim sex gangs tootie loopy ... As for the Veronica reply and praise of national hero Mr Robinson , so what ??? ... If that's your proof of my hate and my part in the NZ massacre your one sad loop ... If I'm guilty of murder as your somehow implying then report me to the fuzz or the very least to Warners ... I'm sure they would remove me yesterday if what you say is true ... Man up , do it or shut up with your silliness
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Posted: 16 March 2019 5:08 PM
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malc d - 2019-03-16 9:55 AM

Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 9:37 AM


WTF is wrong with us today?






Everyone is shouting - no-one is listening.



Correct. Joint condemnation is what we should be spouting but those that support radical views be it Radical Islamic views or Radical for right views both of which promote hate should be equally condemned. People like Tommy Robinson are not helping no more than radical and vocal Muslim Clerics are although the later seem to have gone underground these days. All they do is create further division, hatred and ultimately trigger violence from the thankfully small minority of nut jobs that are prepared to go out and kill in the name of their particular cause. They are escalating the problem.

Its just going to get worse until people start taking a more moderate view and reach out to those that they hold fear and contempt for on both sides.


If it wasn't for the Tommy Robinson's of this world you fluffy wuffy liberals would still be turning a blind eye to the rape of children .......



What a load of bollox you talk. Tommy Robinsons agenda is to stir up hatred towards Islam. He isnt going around catching rapists and abusers. If that was his agenda why is he not targeting none Muslim sickos and there are plenty of those? Didnt one of his own members get charged with such an offence? To infer that "you fluffy wuffy liberals" turn a blind eye to such things is insulting on two fronts. First of all Im not a fluffy wuffy liberal and secondly who the feck is turning a blind eye to any of this stuff?

Its more sensational to report when it turns out to be a group or a ring if you like of groomers and sickos that have committed such crimes and not as dramatic to report a single sad white and christian sicko who acts alone but unfortunately there are way too many occurrences of both but we dont need Tommy Robinson whipping up hatred as if its purely a Muslim thing. How exactly does that help heal the ever decreasing divide and hatred between two cultures and prevent stuff like Christchurch happening? Unless of course thats what some people want to happen.


How would you.know about divide and hatred between cultures in this country ... You haven't got a clue ... You preach like the other wet hankies on here from the safety of places miles away from anything remotely non English ... Your fluffy world doesn't exist for
many of us in multicultural Britain ... If it's so sodding great and you love it so much stop being a wet hypocrite and move somewhere more ethnically diverse
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Posted: 16 March 2019 5:32 PM
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antony1969 - 2019-03-16 5:08 PM
If it's so sodding great and you love it so much stop being a wet hypocrite and move somewhere more ethnically diverse


He'd fill his nappy on a daily basis if he did ..........

I doubt Barry's ever lived within a few villages of a rough council estate in his life .......

Let alone a multi cultural sink hole .........

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Posted: 16 March 2019 5:48 PM
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If it's so sodding great and you love it so much stop being a wet hypocrite and move somewhere more ethnically diverse


He'd fill his nappy on a daily basis if he did ..........

I doubt Barry's ever lived within a few villages of a rough council estate in his life .......

Let alone a multi cultural sink hole .........



But but but he has got a Muslim friend who used to go out getting rat ar$ed with him ??? Go figure that one out if ya can and he has worked in every town and city in the country and that London though how sleeping in top hotels and eating and mostly drinking in top bars educates him on the shotholes these places have I dont know ... Like the rest of em on here they are hypocrites though Farty Pants Allahu Akbar tops the hypocrite list at minute
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Posted: 16 March 2019 6:08 PM
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Interview with a member of the public on radio now "I'm just so sad Muslims might feel scared" ... Yep they were guna join the club sooner or later ... Weve had to change much in society because of Muslim slaughter of innocents , a little extra security at Mosques dont come near it
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Posted: 16 March 2019 6:36 PM
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Ah I see. You have to be some kind of rufty tufty working class hero that lives in a bin surrounded by evil drug dealing Muslims to comment on the fact that spreading more hate does not solve the issues of division, mistrust and ultimately violence then. Ok. I know my place. Good luck.

Edited by Barryd999 2019-03-16 6:36 PM
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Posted: 16 March 2019 6:53 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 6:36 PM

Ah I see. You have to be some kind of rufty tufty working class hero that lives in a bin surrounded by evil drug dealing Muslims to comment on the fact that spreading more hate does not solve the issues of division, mistrust and ultimately violence then. Ok. I know my place. Good luck.


Does your concern about "spreading hate" extend to that book that's been spreading hate for a long long time ??? Prolly not princess
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Posted: 16 March 2019 6:54 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 6:36 PM

Ok. I know my place. Good luck.


Spouting pompous rubbish from above .........

You're a natural Liberal politician Barry .........



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Posted: 16 March 2019 7:26 PM
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I can't believe this 49 human being were murdered and all that's on here is he said you said is there no compassion for the victims and their relatives they are victims for goodness sake
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teflon2 - 2019-03-16 7:26 PM

I can't believe this 49 human being were murdered and all that's on here is he said you said is there no compassion for the victims and their relatives they are victims for goodness sake.

Well said.
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Posted: 16 March 2019 7:32 PM
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teflon2 - 2019-03-16 7:26 PM

I can't believe this 49 human being were murdered and all that's on here is he said you said is there no compassion for the victims and their relatives they are victims for goodness sake


You have a point........unfortunately human beings are the same folk who are committing these atrocities .......

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Posted: 16 March 2019 10:16 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 6:36 PM

Ah I see. You have to be some kind of rufty tufty working class hero that lives in a bin surrounded by evil drug dealing Muslims to comment on the fact that spreading more hate does not solve the issues of division, mistrust and ultimately violence then. Ok. I know my place. Good luck.


Does your concern about "spreading hate" extend to that book that's been spreading hate for a long long time ??? Prolly not princess


Absolutely it does! Ive told you before but you dont listen. Im against anyone spreading or preaching hate, Im just not bothered what religion or colour they are. An arsehole is an arsehole IMO. Same goes for criminals. You preach to me saying Ive not seen the real world but your own views are prejudiced by the world you live in. You have said yourself that the Muslim community around you do not integrate and are full of low life criminals and I never doubted you. Ive seen similar situations in parts of the country I frequent (or frequented) like parts of Manchester which I spent a lot of time in. Have you been to Cheetham Hill in Manchester? I spent about fifteen years working in and out of there on a regular basis. Sometimes I would be there all week. I was there when the security services raided an Al Qaeda house just up the road in Cheetham hill road and its not far from where the poor copper was stabbed in another Al Qaeda raid in 2003. The place was an Al Qaeda hot bed!

That area of Manchester makes Huddersfield look like Beverley Hills so dont tell me I have no idea what its like. Its not that long ago. If your surrounded by that every day then your bound to have a biased view and I dont want people like that in my country anymore than you do but its not like that everywhere just like parts of Teesside which surprise surprise I have frequented have equally as bad and dangerous White Ghetto hot beds of crime but its not the same everywhere. All white people are not criminals or terrorists and neither are all Muslims.

It doesnt mean your a fluffy wuffy liberal just because you think people should integrate and seek to reach out rather than whip up hate and distrust and violence, its just the sensible and the right thing to do.
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Interview with a member of the public on radio now "I'm just so sad Muslims might feel scared" ... Yep they were guna join the club sooner or later ... Weve had to change much in society because of Muslim slaughter of innocents , a little extra security at Mosques dont come near it


C*#t
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Sickening....50 dead now, the youngest a little 3 year old lad. A 4 year old girl is also critical.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/16/asia/christchurch-new-zealand-mosque-shooting-latest/index.html

On a more positive note, i'm glad to see Manchester police have arrested a man from Oldham after posting comments on social media supporting the attack. As C4 news reported, security services would be monitoring far right extremism a lot more closely from now. They aren't difficult to spot.

https://news.sky.com/story/oldham-man-arrested-over-social-media-comment-about-nz-attack-11667669
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Posted: 17 March 2019 7:49 AM
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Interview with a member of the public on radio now "I'm just so sad Muslims might feel scared" ... Yep they were guna join the club sooner or later ... Weve had to change much in society because of Muslim slaughter of innocents , a little extra security at Mosques dont come near it


C*#t


Cant ??? Clot ??? Chat ??? ... C'mon tough guy what is it ... Man up , say what you feel ... Ya normally more than handy with the names and insults
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Ah I see. You have to be some kind of rufty tufty working class hero that lives in a bin surrounded by evil drug dealing Muslims to comment on the fact that spreading more hate does not solve the issues of division, mistrust and ultimately violence then. Ok. I know my place. Good luck.


Does your concern about "spreading hate" extend to that book that's been spreading hate for a long long time ??? Prolly not princess


Absolutely it does! Ive told you before but you dont listen. Im against anyone spreading or preaching hate, Im just not bothered what religion or colour they are. An arsehole is an arsehole IMO. Same goes for criminals. You preach to me saying Ive not seen the real world but your own views are prejudiced by the world you live in. You have said yourself that the Muslim community around you do not integrate and are full of low life criminals and I never doubted you. Ive seen similar situations in parts of the country I frequent (or frequented) like parts of Manchester which I spent a lot of time in. Have you been to Cheetham Hill in Manchester? I spent about fifteen years working in and out of there on a regular basis. Sometimes I would be there all week. I was there when the security services raided an Al Qaeda house just up the road in Cheetham hill road and its not far from where the poor copper was stabbed in another Al Qaeda raid in 2003. The place was an Al Qaeda hot bed!

That area of Manchester makes Huddersfield look like Beverley Hills so dont tell me I have no idea what its like. Its not that long ago. If your surrounded by that every day then your bound to have a biased view and I dont want people like that in my country anymore than you do but its not like that everywhere just like parts of Teesside which surprise surprise I have frequented have equally as bad and dangerous White Ghetto hot beds of crime but its not the same everywhere. All white people are not criminals or terrorists and neither are all Muslims.

It doesnt mean your a fluffy wuffy liberal just because you think people should integrate and seek to reach out rather than whip up hate and distrust and violence, its just the sensible and the right thing to do.


I dont live anywhere near a Muslim ghetto ... Bullet will tell you I live in an area well away thank Christ ... I too have worked in Manchester Barry and I can tell ya parts of Huddersfield are as bad as any in Manx so your wrong ... You think people should integrate yet live miles away from anything to integrate with ???
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Posted: 17 March 2019 8:05 AM
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Sickening....50 dead now, the youngest a little 3 year old lad. A 4 year old girl is also critical.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/16/asia/christchurch-new-zealand-mosque-shooting-latest/index.html

On a more positive note, i'm glad to see Manchester police have arrested a man from Oldham after posting comments on social media supporting the attack. As C4 news reported, security services would be monitoring far right extremism a lot more closely from now. They aren't difficult to spot.

https://news.sky.com/story/oldham-man-arrested-over-social-media-comment-about-nz-attack-11667669


Nice to see the cops have got on top of stuff like this ... Cant understand how they manage to arrest faceless morons who spew rubbish on the net like Farty so quick yet find it so difficult to arrest those walking down streets with placards saying death to non-believers etc etc ... Maybe it's just much more difficult to arrest those doing that or sumat
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Posted: 17 March 2019 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: Christchurch
 


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Ah I see. You have to be some kind of rufty tufty working class hero that lives in a bin surrounded by evil drug dealing Muslims to comment on the fact that spreading more hate does not solve the issues of division, mistrust and ultimately violence then. Ok. I know my place. Good luck.


Does your concern about "spreading hate" extend to that book that's been spreading hate for a long long time ??? Prolly not princess


Absolutely it does! Ive told you before but you dont listen. Im against anyone spreading or preaching hate, Im just not bothered what religion or colour they are. An arsehole is an arsehole IMO. Same goes for criminals. You preach to me saying Ive not seen the real world but your own views are prejudiced by the world you live in. You have said yourself that the Muslim community around you do not integrate and are full of low life criminals and I never doubted you. Ive seen similar situations in parts of the country I frequent (or frequented) like parts of Manchester which I spent a lot of time in. Have you been to Cheetham Hill in Manchester? I spent about fifteen years working in and out of there on a regular basis. Sometimes I would be there all week. I was there when the security services raided an Al Qaeda house just up the road in Cheetham hill road and its not far from where the poor copper was stabbed in another Al Qaeda raid in 2003. The place was an Al Qaeda hot bed!

That area of Manchester makes Huddersfield look like Beverley Hills so dont tell me I have no idea what its like. Its not that long ago. If your surrounded by that every day then your bound to have a biased view and I dont want people like that in my country anymore than you do but its not like that everywhere just like parts of Teesside which surprise surprise I have frequented have equally as bad and dangerous White Ghetto hot beds of crime but its not the same everywhere. All white people are not criminals or terrorists and neither are all Muslims.

It doesnt mean your a fluffy wuffy liberal just because you think people should integrate and seek to reach out rather than whip up hate and distrust and violence, its just the sensible and the right thing to do.


I dont live anywhere near a Muslim ghetto ... Bullet will tell you I live in an area well away thank Christ ... I too have worked in Manchester Barry and I can tell ya parts of Huddersfield are as bad as any in Manx so your wrong ... You think people should integrate yet live miles away from anything to integrate with ???
]

I didnt mean you were sat right in the middle of it surrounded by your Muslim brothers on every side but maybe you should be. Go and see if you can get a job in a corner shop or summat (Oh! bit of racial stereotyping there) in the thick of it. I bet you will make friends straight away! Then you will find out that they are just like us. Some will be wamkers others will be ok. None hopefully will want to blow you up or shoot you. If you go around like Tommy accusing them of being Rapists or murderers or condemning their religion none of them will like you but they still probably wont kill you (well some might). Turn the other cheek Jesus said (or was it Dave when he was in the Navy? ). Tolerance innit.
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Posted: 17 March 2019 8:46 AM
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Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 6:36 PM

Ah I see. You have to be some kind of rufty tufty working class hero that lives in a bin surrounded by evil drug dealing Muslims to comment on the fact that spreading more hate does not solve the issues of division, mistrust and ultimately violence then. Ok. I know my place. Good luck.


Does your concern about "spreading hate" extend to that book that's been spreading hate for a long long time ??? Prolly not princess


Absolutely it does! Ive told you before but you dont listen. Im against anyone spreading or preaching hate, Im just not bothered what religion or colour they are. An arsehole is an arsehole IMO. Same goes for criminals. You preach to me saying Ive not seen the real world but your own views are prejudiced by the world you live in. You have said yourself that the Muslim community around you do not integrate and are full of low life criminals and I never doubted you. Ive seen similar situations in parts of the country I frequent (or frequented) like parts of Manchester which I spent a lot of time in. Have you been to Cheetham Hill in Manchester? I spent about fifteen years working in and out of there on a regular basis. Sometimes I would be there all week. I was there when the security services raided an Al Qaeda house just up the road in Cheetham hill road and its not far from where the poor copper was stabbed in another Al Qaeda raid in 2003. The place was an Al Qaeda hot bed!

That area of Manchester makes Huddersfield look like Beverley Hills so dont tell me I have no idea what its like. Its not that long ago. If your surrounded by that every day then your bound to have a biased view and I dont want people like that in my country anymore than you do but its not like that everywhere just like parts of Teesside which surprise surprise I have frequented have equally as bad and dangerous White Ghetto hot beds of crime but its not the same everywhere. All white people are not criminals or terrorists and neither are all Muslims.

It doesnt mean your a fluffy wuffy liberal just because you think people should integrate and seek to reach out rather than whip up hate and distrust and violence, its just the sensible and the right thing to do.


I dont live anywhere near a Muslim ghetto ... Bullet will tell you I live in an area well away thank Christ ... I too have worked in Manchester Barry and I can tell ya parts of Huddersfield are as bad as any in Manx so your wrong ... You think people should integrate yet live miles away from anything to integrate with ???
]

I didnt mean you were sat right in the middle of it surrounded by your Muslim brothers on every side but maybe you should be. Go and see if you can get a job in a corner shop or summat (Oh! bit of racial stereotyping there) in the thick of it. I bet you will make friends straight away! Then you will find out that they are just like us. Some will be wamkers others will be ok. None hopefully will want to blow you up or shoot you. If you go around like Tommy accusing them of being Rapists or murderers or condemning their religion none of them will like you but they still probably wont kill you (well some might). Turn the other cheek Jesus said (or was it Dave when he was in the Navy? ). Tolerance innit.


Tolerance your right ... Tolerance should first start with those who have come to this country and they should show tolerance to those who have welcomed them as neighbours ... That same tolerance you talk of would be the same as the tolerance that whole Muslim school walking out in Birmingham showed to homosexuals would it
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Posted: 17 March 2019 10:15 AM
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Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 10:16 PM

antony1969 - 2019-03-16 6:53 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-03-16 6:36 PM

Ah I see. You have to be some kind of rufty tufty working class hero that lives in a bin surrounded by evil drug dealing Muslims to comment on the fact that spreading more hate does not solve the issues of division, mistrust and ultimately violence then. Ok. I know my place. Good luck.


Does your concern about "spreading hate" extend to that book that's been spreading hate for a long long time ??? Prolly not princess


Absolutely it does! Ive told you before but you dont listen. Im against anyone spreading or preaching hate, Im just not bothered what religion or colour they are. An arsehole is an arsehole IMO. Same goes for criminals. You preach to me saying Ive not seen the real world but your own views are prejudiced by the world you live in. You have said yourself that the Muslim community around you do not integrate and are full of low life criminals and I never doubted you. Ive seen similar situations in parts of the country I frequent (or frequented) like parts of Manchester which I spent a lot of time in. Have you been to Cheetham Hill in Manchester? I spent about fifteen years working in and out of there on a regular basis. Sometimes I would be there all week. I was there when the security services raided an Al Qaeda house just up the road in Cheetham hill road and its not far from where the poor copper was stabbed in another Al Qaeda raid in 2003. The place was an Al Qaeda hot bed!

That area of Manchester makes Huddersfield look like Beverley Hills so dont tell me I have no idea what its like. Its not that long ago. If your surrounded by that every day then your bound to have a biased view and I dont want people like that in my country anymore than you do but its not like that everywhere just like parts of Teesside which surprise surprise I have frequented have equally as bad and dangerous White Ghetto hot beds of crime but its not the same everywhere. All white people are not criminals or terrorists and neither are all Muslims.

It doesnt mean your a fluffy wuffy liberal just because you think people should integrate and seek to reach out rather than whip up hate and distrust and violence, its just the sensible and the right thing to do.


I dont live anywhere near a Muslim ghetto ... Bullet will tell you I live in an area well away thank Christ ... I too have worked in Manchester Barry and I can tell ya parts of Huddersfield are as bad as any in Manx so your wrong ... You think people should integrate yet live miles away from anything to integrate with ???
]

I didnt mean you were sat right in the middle of it surrounded by your Muslim brothers on every side but maybe you should be. Go and see if you can get a job in a corner shop or summat (Oh! bit of racial stereotyping there) in the thick of it. I bet you will make friends straight away! Then you will find out that they are just like us. Some will be wamkers others will be ok. None hopefully will want to blow you up or shoot you. If you go around like Tommy accusing them of being Rapists or murderers or condemning their religion none of them will like you but they still probably wont kill you (well some might). Turn the other cheek Jesus said (or was it Dave when he was in the Navy? ). Tolerance innit.


Tolerance your right ... Tolerance should first start with those who have come to this country and they should show tolerance to those who have welcomed them as neighbours ... That same tolerance you talk of would be the same as the tolerance that whole Muslim school walking out in Birmingham showed to homosexuals would it


Agreed. Its a two way street.
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Posted: 17 March 2019 2:01 PM
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New Zealands Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.....a true stateswoman worthy of high office.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHqp9V1-8eY&t=4m48s


Also BBC Breakfast news this morning....listen to this guy at 3m 30sec in (big guy in red jacket).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0003f44/breakfast-17032019
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