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userBulletguy
Posted: 22 March 2020 8:26 PM
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Doctors battling coronavirus in Italy are ‘at the end of their strength’

Romano Paolucci, who came out of retirement to help with the country’s response to the virus, described the heartbreak of having to see elderly patients dying alone, often after having to say goodbye to loved ones over a scratchy phone line.

He is one of 70 doctors working long and exhausting shifts at the small Oglio Po Hospital, which until only a month ago was a normal provincial institution treating everything from tonsils to tumours.

Now, it has been totally converted to treat coronavirus as Cremona became the fourth-worst impacted province in Italy. There have been so many fatalities in the region that medics are ‘not even counting the dead anymore’.

Italy saw yet another record spike in Covid-19-related deaths on Saturday as almost 800 more patients died of the virus in 24 hours.


https://tinyurl.com/tfvk22r

Italy, France, Spain and UK were all slow to react where China hit the lockdown button after 30 deaths and still had almost 3000 fatalities where Italy's has now almost doubled that at 5,476.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

South Korea has done exceptionally well with just 104 deaths......but they introduced large scale testing and tracing very early on. Lessons to be learned from there.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/
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Posted: 22 March 2020 11:08 PM
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A 36 year old NHS nurse is critically ill battling coronavirus using a ventilator in intensive care in the same hospital she has worked at for 16 years.

She has no underlying health issues.


https://tinyurl.com/sz5haqm
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Posted: 23 March 2020 6:52 AM
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Amazing, flights apparently still coming in from China ,Italy and else where.
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Posted: 23 March 2020 1:26 PM
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jumpstart - 2020-03-23 6:52 AM

Amazing, flights apparently still coming in from China ,Italy and else where.


Beano Boris an killer Cummings couldn't give a monkeys.
userBulletguy
Posted: 23 March 2020 2:01 PM
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jumpstart - 2020-03-23 6:52 AM

Amazing, flights apparently still coming in from China ,Italy and else where.

Probably returning non-resident Britons same as those that stubbornly refused to budge from Spain until the last minute. At least China has their country under control after imposing strict lockdown early on and their only new cases have been citizens returning from outside China........the same as our returning citizens are doing, the majority of which are non-resident Brits coming back from Spain but unlike China we allow ours to amble in unchecked and untested.

The death toll in Spain has now passed 2000 with 462 deaths in the past 24 hours.

Wake up UK.

https://tinyurl.com/vcu3gw2
userBulletguy
Posted: 23 March 2020 2:20 PM
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MPs demand Boris Johnson puts UK in lockdown as social distancing advice goes ignored

It's about time Johnson stopped dithering and pussy footing around.

https://tinyurl.com/wl3ljty

People are not bothering with 'advice'. "Social distancing" is treated as a joke. Over the weekend people flocked to coastal resorts...even Skegness FGS(!!), and Snowdonia national park recorded it's busiest day. Bikers rammed Matlock in the Peak District for their customary Sunday gathering. Campervans, motorhomes, caravans and second home owners took to the roads to plonk themselves in areas emergency services and hospitals are not equipped to deal with.

Italy has people dying in the streets now while *some* Brits carry on as though life is normal.

https://tinyurl.com/vt3lhur

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Posted: 23 March 2020 4:14 PM
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Our usual small supplier( flowers and veg) of seeds has emailed us that delivery will be a bit delayed as orders are 10 times their normal at present.
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Posted: 23 March 2020 6:19 PM
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Bulletguy - 2020-03-22 11:08 PM


A 36 year old NHS nurse is critically ill battling coronavirus using a ventilator in intensive care in the same hospital she has worked at for 16 years.

She has no underlying health issues.


https://tinyurl.com/sz5haqm


as was the Doctor in Wuhan
My understanding is thats because those working with so many infected people would have got a massive onslaught of the virus before they could build up any immunity - far more than the average person might have got.
userBulletguy
Posted: 23 March 2020 7:30 PM
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John52 - 2020-03-23 6:19 PM

Bulletguy - 2020-03-22 11:08 PM


A 36 year old NHS nurse is critically ill battling coronavirus using a ventilator in intensive care in the same hospital she has worked at for 16 years.

She has no underlying health issues.


https://tinyurl.com/sz5haqm


as was the Doctor in Wuhan
My understanding is thats because those working with so many infected people would have got a massive onslaught of the virus before they could build up any immunity - far more than the average person might have got.

The point being John is age. Yes a younger person who contracts the virus should have more chance of recovery than someone much older. I also think it far too early to assess immunity if any at all and i've not heard any virologists make clear statements on that yet. There have been another 45 deaths in England alone today ages from 47 to 105 and the total death toll 335.
userBulletguy
Posted: 23 March 2020 9:49 PM
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Strict rules banning social interaction.

Gatherings of more than two people banned. (It will be interesting to see how that is enforced given this weekends activities up and down the country).

All “non-essential” shops will be closed, with only food stores, hardware shops, chemists, petrol stations and newsagents allowed to remain open.

https://tinyurl.com/tol74w9
userBulletguy
Posted: 25 March 2020 5:18 PM
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Though the article is about Piers Morgan who has offered to pay NHS workers who pick up car park fines, there is an interesting list of countries around the world and the measures each government has introduced.

https://tinyurl.com/s6oeuny

Prince Charles has been diagnosed with Coronavirus.

https://tinyurl.com/qkst9a4

Edited by Bulletguy 2020-03-25 5:20 PM
userBirdbrain
Posted: 25 March 2020 6:11 PM
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HarveyHeaven - 2020-03-23 1:26 PM

jumpstart - 2020-03-23 6:52 AM

Amazing, flights apparently still coming in from China ,Italy and else where.


Beano Boris an killer Cummings couldn't give a monkeys.


Wheres moderator Derek ???
userBulletguy
Posted: 25 March 2020 8:57 PM
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A 21 year old with no underlying health conditions has died from coronavirus.

https://tinyurl.com/wdyyvtj


This is tragic. She didn't even have coronavirus though i can't help but wonder if this young lady had some mental health issues going on.

https://tinyurl.com/shcxkf2


Also a 34 year old Italian nurse who had contracted the virus, who took her own life after fearing she had spread the virus to others as she had previously been working in the intensive care unit at San Gerardo Hospital.

https://tinyurl.com/w7dgt2r
userBulletguy
Posted: 25 March 2020 10:39 PM
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Jeremy Hunt MP asked Johnson at PMQ when we can get routine testing in the community as happens in Korea, Germany and other countries, and should we not have weekly tests for NHS staff and others that need it" to which Johnson replied, "we're making huge progress err err as soon as we possibly can".

Johnson was asked this a number of times by ministers and Political editor Gary Gibbon put the point to him again and asks how we became "so woefully behind other countries..", but yet more bluster and huffing with no clear decisive answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBfY-i3GJ1s&t=3m23s

I fear we are facing a Tsunami with this pandemic and that is the most appropriate description i can think of as i remember watching that unfold in 2004. First it was feared 50 or so had died but that quickly rose into the hundreds, then thousands until the eventual toll reached almost 228,000.

Unlike the Tsunami Covid-19 didn't come rushing in without warning as this timeline shows. We should have been prepared but we were not, neither with manpower or equipment.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-pandemic-timeline-history-major-events-2020-3?r=US&IR=T
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Posted: 25 March 2020 11:09 PM
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An interesting read from The Atlantic;

How the Coronavirus Became an American Catastrophe

The death and economic damage sweeping the United States could have been avoided—if only we had started testing for the virus sooner.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/how-many-americans-are-sick-lost-february/608521/
userjumpstart
Posted: 26 March 2020 7:59 AM
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Where’s all the fresh fish going? Supermarkets have shut fish counters, there’s no markets now , no restaurants or pubs.
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Posted: 26 March 2020 1:06 PM
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Now must surely be the time to fix the potholes and do other road repairs with such little traffic on the roads.
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Posted: 26 March 2020 1:45 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-03-25 6:11 PM

HarveyHeaven - 2020-03-23 1:26 PM

jumpstart - 2020-03-23 6:52 AM

Amazing, flights apparently still coming in from China ,Italy and else where.


Beano Boris an killer Cummings couldn't give a monkeys.


Wheres moderator Derek ???


I’m sick of the lot of you.

I’m 76 and my wife is 77 - well into the ‘at real risk’ age group - so if you and the rest of the Chatterbox gang want to amuse yourself with Twittery claptrap and/or slag each other, go ahead. Just keep the Chatterbox stuff off the other forums...
userBulletguy
Posted: 26 March 2020 4:27 PM
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Hopefully each fm posting here will keep on thread topic to post specifically about matters concerning Covid-19. Stuart opened what imo is an excellent thread so lets keep it that way by posting current updates relating to Coronavirus.

Spains healthcare system is now on the verge of collapse as hospital staff struggle to cope with the pandemic. 8,578 new cases in 24 hours and a death toll of 4.089.

https://tinyurl.com/tcy43kp

Yorkshire police are setting up road checkpoints asking drivers if their journey is essential. I expect this will be rolled out by other forces...at least those with the manpower.

https://tinyurl.com/t8mvubr

and people breaking the lockdown rules could be arrested and subject to on the spot fines.

https://tinyurl.com/tuqnnj8

userBirdbrain
Posted: 26 March 2020 4:34 PM
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Derek Uzzell - 2020-03-26 1:45 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-03-25 6:11 PM

HarveyHeaven - 2020-03-23 1:26 PM

jumpstart - 2020-03-23 6:52 AM

Amazing, flights apparently still coming in from China ,Italy and else where.


Beano Boris an killer Cummings couldn't give a monkeys.


Wheres moderator Derek ???


I’m sick of the lot of you.

I’m 76 and my wife is 77 - well into the ‘at real risk’ age group - so if you and the rest of the Chatterbox gang want to amuse yourself with Twittery claptrap and/or slag each other, go ahead. Just keep the Chatterbox stuff off the other forums...


Derek ... Apologies , I was only jesting ... Sorry for any offence and I mean that ... Keep safe
userBulletguy
Posted: 27 March 2020 1:27 PM
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Johnson has tested positive with coronavirus and self isolating. Jeremy Corbyn wished him, "a speedy recovery and hope his family are safe and healthy. Coronavirus can and does affect anyone. Everyone be safe. Our own health depends on everybody else."

https://tinyurl.com/yxyva559
userBulletguy
Posted: 27 March 2020 1:36 PM
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People are vowing to boycott certain companies once the lockdown is lifted, over the manner in which they have treated their employees.

https://tinyurl.com/t7lbtja

Key workers at a food processing factory in NI refused to start their shifts after demanding a meeting with management over the lack of social distancing.

https://tinyurl.com/t7lbtja
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Posted: 27 March 2020 1:51 PM
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Spains death toll from Covid-19 soared to 4,858 after 769 died overnight exceeding that of China and fast approaching the fatalities in Italy.

https://tinyurl.com/vh3jvyo


This world country chart is very interesting.....Russia has had just three deaths, South Africa two, but even walking the dog has been banned in SA.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

userBulletguy
Posted: 27 March 2020 4:47 PM
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Matt Hancock now tested positive, also chief medical officer Chris Whitty self-isolating after showing symptoms.

https://tinyurl.com/wyez7j3
userBulletguy
Posted: 27 March 2020 7:04 PM
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A 16 year old French girl has died after contracting coronavirus. She showed symptoms less than a week ago, went to her doctors, then rushed to hospital where it was confirmed.

She had no underlying health conditions.

https://tinyurl.com/t2of7yg
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Posted: 28 March 2020 3:50 PM
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Spain had its biggest jump in deaths over the past 24 hours with 832 dying bringing their total to 5,690.

https://tinyurl.com/tc8qqur

UK deaths have now also gone into four figures after our largest daily jump taking us to a total of 1,019 deaths.

https://tinyurl.com/vyvjlda
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Posted: 28 March 2020 11:04 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFZZF39fgWM
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Posted: 8 August 2020 4:16 PM
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There was a young lady named Covid
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Explaining to friends tis only a wheeze
There was a young lady named Covid
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Posted: 8 August 2020 4:52 PM
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Noted a reference to the UKs gig economy and wondered what on earth is that. Turns out is just means self employed people which is nothing new. I gather the number of self employed people is going up and I guess emerging technology might have something to do with that. Lots of people I knew in construction management were free lancers who generally got paid a good daily rate but had to set something aside for holidays and time off sick so concerns about people feeling they have to keep working or not get paid is down to their personal financial management. If they chose to spend every penny they earn leaving nothing for contingencies surely that is their problem, not ours.
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Posted: 9 August 2020 8:31 AM
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Don636 - 2020-08-08 4:52 PM

Noted a reference to the UKs gig economy and wondered what on earth is that. Turns out is just means self employed people which is nothing new. I gather the number of self employed people is going up and I guess emerging technology might have something to do with that. Lots of people I knew in construction management were free lancers who generally got paid a good daily rate but had to set something aside for holidays and time off sick so concerns about people feeling they have to keep working or not get paid is down to their personal financial management. If they chose to spend every penny they earn leaving nothing for contingencies surely that is their problem, not ours.


Its not quite as simple as that. Choosing to be self employed and set up a business is not the same as the so called "Gig economy" where you are really just after a job but end up on a zero hours self employed contract. For many its not a personal choice. As for planning in contingencies some cant even afford housing let alone holidays and are living in their cars or tents.
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