John52 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Best analysis I have seen here; https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/06/why-is-it-that-while-covid-19-cases-are-rising-deaths-continue-to-fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 It takes time for the young to spread it to their older relatives. Give Schools and Universities more time .... not to mention illegal raves etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 Despite overwhelming evidence that people indoors facing each other with no facemasks for prolonged periods is the highest risk of all, and 66 of his staff test positive, BoJo's Brexiteer supporter Tim Martin dismissed claims by disease expert Professor Hugh Pennington that pubs are "dangerous". *-) He wants 'Dishy Rishi' to keep sending him your money to subsidise more people going to the pub. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54144130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 The article briefly skirts around a important fact without mentioning it. Best estimate of the true daily infections at moment is 3000, back at beginning of April it's estimated as 100,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 The people now suffering are the thousands who couldn’t get treatment for other ailments like cancer. Other deaths are far outstripping covid deaths. Our government need to be a bit more realistic about the death rate of covid 19. This winter far more are likely to die from flu and cancer. Unfortunately joined up thinking doesn’t seem to be in this government’s remit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 colin - 2020-09-14 5:30 PM back at beginning of April (daily infections is) estimated as 100,000. 8-) do you have a source for that? Wikipedia says about 5,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-09-14 7:13 PM The people now suffering are the thousands who couldn’t get treatment for other ailments like cancer. Other deaths are far outstripping covid deaths. Our government need to be a bit more realistic about the death rate of covid 19. This winter far more are likely to die from flu and cancer. Unfortunately joined up thinking doesn’t seem to be in this government’s remit. I heard Bo'jo's Downing street press briefings were only counting confirmed covid deaths in hospital and ignoring all the others - but I can't confirm that as I never took his press briefings seriously enough to watch them. He runs everything like an election campaign - all spin and populist stunts. Best estimate seems to be excess deaths - calculated by taking this years deaths and subtracting the average deaths over the same period in previous years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 John52 - 2020-09-14 7:19 PM colin - 2020-09-14 5:30 PM back at beginning of April (daily infections is) estimated as 100,000. 8-) do you have a source for that? Wikipedia says about 5,000 It's buried in the ONS data releases as a top end estimate, I've tried to find it but can't, it was also mentioned on BBC news. Also saw an article in Lancet, this also had a top end estimate multiple times Wiki's 5000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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