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usercolin
Posted: 28 November 2018 10:40 AM
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I see that the shadow home secretary has twittered that police should not be using their specialist trained units to take down moped criminals, she seems unaware of what the police sign up to.

I will only use force as part of my role and responsibilities, and only to the extent that it is necessary, proportionate and reasonable in all the circumstances.



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Posted: 28 November 2018 1:09 PM
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The videos I’ve seen seem most concerning but absent of any context we don’t really know what risks the moped drivers posed to innocent members of the public. Whilst there may be the odd police officer who is a bit gung-ho on the whole I trust our boys/girls in blue to make the best decision they can in all the circumstances. Let’s face it they must answer for every action they take if someone is injured or dies as a result of anything they do.

This scourge of robbing, violent thieves on mopeds is alarming. Desperate times sometimes call for desperate measures. Diane should be a little more circumspect when criticising the police and find out a bit more about these incidents before opening her mouth. She is not a good candidate for Home Secretary in my view. It is a very demanding job and requires someone who is capable of putting aside their biases and making sure they are fully informed before commenting on any issue.

Edited by Violet1956 2018-11-28 1:13 PM
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Posted: 28 November 2018 1:24 PM
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Violet1956 - 2018-11-28 1:09 PM

The videos I’ve seen seem most concerning but absent of any context we don’t really know what risks the moped drivers posed to innocent members of the public.

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I do.

The risk to the innocent members of the public is that if these people aren't stopped - MORE innocent members of the public will have their phones stolen.



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Posted: 28 November 2018 1:26 PM
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From what I've read some of the moped thieves are armed with knives and other objects with which to subdue their prey Malc.
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Posted: 28 November 2018 1:47 PM
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I thought it was a breath of fresh air when I saw the videos of the Rozzers knocking these scumbags off their scooters. They think nothing of risking others lives, robbing and injuring people. Give them a taste of their own medicine.
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Posted: 28 November 2018 3:17 PM
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It's certainly caused controversy but shows the sheer desperation a grossly undermanned police force has been driven to in battling crime. They are now so overstretched they patrol as single units in cars but today's youth have no respect for police and it's down to lack of parental control and discipline. The latter flew out the window years ago once they removed it from schools and when you look at the role models these kids have for parents, it's ever likely they end up as thugs.
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Posted: 28 November 2018 3:18 PM
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What is truly frightening is that if Barry is correct and let's be honest he's more or less always pretty spot on with his Septic Peg predictions then that racist , terrorist loving thicko is guna be our Home Secretary before March ... Oh Lordy
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Posted: 28 November 2018 3:24 PM
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Bulletguy - 2018-11-28 3:17 PM


It's certainly caused controversy but shows the sheer desperation a grossly undermanned police force has been driven to in battling crime. They are now so overstretched they patrol as single units in cars but today's youth have no respect for police and it's down to lack of parental control and discipline. The latter flew out the window years ago once they removed it from schools and when you look at the role models these kids have for parents, it's ever likely they end up as thugs.


When you look at the.prison stats one can only come to the conclusion that immigrants and those from immigrant backgrounds are the ones with least respect for the police and terrible parents if your theory is correct
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Posted: 28 November 2018 5:52 PM
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We imported cheap migrant labour in the 50s and 60s, we kept most of them poor and when some of their descendants find out that they get nowhere by keeping to the rules some decided to break them.
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Posted: 28 November 2018 6:00 PM
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Violet1956 - 2018-11-28 5:52 PM

We imported cheap migrant labour in the 50s and 60s, we kept most of them poor and when some of their descendants find out that they get nowhere by keeping to the rules some decided to break them.


Well without stating the bleeding obvious most were employed in lower skilled/paid work but still much more money than in their homelands ... I think youve actually just knocked many of the decent folk I know from the West Indies and Indians that have worked bloody hard to get what they have by legal means ... Some of the most decent family orientated folk I know are black and thats quite a slur to say that "we kept most of them poor" so their descendants in your view have resorted to criminal activity ... Utter wet whingy rubbish

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Posted: 28 November 2018 11:50 PM
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Violet1956 - 2018-11-28 5:52 PM

We imported cheap migrant labour in the 50s and 60s, we kept most of them poor and when some of their descendants find out that they get nowhere by keeping to the rules some decided to break them.


Well without stating the bleeding obvious most were employed in lower skilled/paid work but still much more money than in their homelands ... I think youve actually just knocked many of the decent folk I know from the West Indies and Indians that have worked bloody hard to get what they have by legal means ... Some of the most decent family orientated folk I know are black and thats quite a slur to say that "we kept most of them poor" so their descendants in your view have resorted to criminal activity ... Utter wet whingy rubbish


Where did I knock any decent people be they from the West Indies, India or elsewhere? To be poor is no sin. I only said that some of the descendants of the cheap migrant labour force have decided to break the rules when they found out that they got nowhere by sticking to them. I repeat "some".


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Posted: 29 November 2018 8:12 AM
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Violet1956 - 2018-11-28 5:52 PM

We imported cheap migrant labour in the 50s and 60s, we kept most of them poor and when some of their descendants find out that they get nowhere by keeping to the rules some decided to break them.


How very loony liberal Veronica ..........

We weren't exactly rich as kids, 6 of us in 2 bed rented flat ........

So a very poor excuse for law breaking if you don't mind me saying .........

As for the plod knocking moped thieves off...... excellent idea .........

Perhaps they should keep the score on the side of their police cars like fighter pilots did .......



Edited by pelmetman 2018-11-29 8:18 AM
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Posted: 29 November 2018 9:27 AM
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Who, in their right mind, cares what Diane Abbot thinks? If she ever gets to be Home Secretary (which is a distinct consequence of brexit stupidity) she’ll probably introduce a scheme to replace their damaged scooters at taxpayers expense!

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Posted: 29 November 2018 5:42 PM
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pelmetman - 2018-11-29 8:12 AM

Violet1956 - 2018-11-28 5:52 PM

We imported cheap migrant labour in the 50s and 60s, we kept most of them poor and when some of their descendants find out that they get nowhere by keeping to the rules some decided to break them.


How very loony liberal Veronica ..........

We weren't exactly rich as kids, 6 of us in 2 bed rented flat ........

So a very poor excuse for law breaking if you don't mind me saying .........

As for the plod knocking moped thieves off...... excellent idea .........

Perhaps they should keep the score on the side of their police cars like fighter pilots did .......





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userpelmetman
Posted: 29 November 2018 9:18 PM
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colin - 2018-11-29 5:42 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-29 8:12 AM

Violet1956 - 2018-11-28 5:52 PM

We imported cheap migrant labour in the 50s and 60s, we kept most of them poor and when some of their descendants find out that they get nowhere by keeping to the rules some decided to break them.


How very loony liberal Veronica ..........

We weren't exactly rich as kids, 6 of us in 2 bed rented flat ........

So a very poor excuse for law breaking if you don't mind me saying .........

As for the plod knocking moped thieves off...... excellent idea .........

Perhaps they should keep the score on the side of their police cars like fighter pilots did .......



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Posted: 29 November 2018 9:20 PM
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Abbot should be made shadow chancellor ........

With her maths she could make Labours budget add up ..........





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