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The number of police officers in England and Wales is the lowest recorded level since the early 1980s and fallen by over 20,000 between March 2010 and March 2018.

 

https://fullfact.org/crime/police-numbers/

 

Watching an episode of "999 Whats your Emergency" last night about the decline in front line policing, I was both staggered and disgusted to hear on one shift in the Northamptonshire force, they had just 16 officers on duty.

 

Sixteen......to cover an area of 900 sq miles. 8-)

That's just plain madness and utter irresponsibility. :-|

 

Traffic officers said it often took them over 20 minutes to drive to an emergency on blue lights. Even the call handlers are at their wits end. As one girl said, if they get one major incident (which they had during the programme) they are pretty much stuffed.

 

An elderly lady called 999 to say she'd fallen out of her chair, was on the floor and couldn't get back up. Ok so not so much of a 'major incident'......until she gave the call handler her date of birth. She was 105 years old. Two officers were dispatched but they had been told not to move her until the Paramedics arrived. Same issues there. They are also overstretched and badly undermanned. Sadly the old lady passed away in hospital a week later.

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Perhaps we should stop letting EU criminals have open access to the UK *-) ..........

 

Just sayin ;-) ........

 

 

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Bulletguy - 2019-06-16 2:18 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-06-16 1:55 PM

 

Perhaps we should stop letting EU criminals have open access to the UK *-) ..........

What's that got to do with the reduction of front line police officers and forces budgets?

 

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

 

 

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Bulletguy - 2019-06-16 2:18 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-06-16 1:55 PM

 

Perhaps we should stop letting EU criminals have open access to the UK *-) ..........

What's that got to do with the reduction of front line police officers and forces budgets?

 

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

UK border control is our responsibility......not the EU and never has been. Also you voted to withdraw the UK from the Europol database, effectively voting to increase criminality not to mention the many non-EU who will now have easier access than ever. So yet another 'own goal' you've scored there. Well done. *-)

 

You're conveniently avoiding addressing the obvious question as to why police staffing and budgets has been drastically reduced over the past eight years. Do you have a logical answer to that?

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Randonneur - 2019-06-16 3:32 PM

 

If we had not spent 11.75 million pounds on the McCann non UK enquiry we could have employed more police officers.Just a thought.?

A media driven campaign by litigant obsessed McCanns ensured their case stayed on the top line at all costs. Can't say the same for Ben Needham who disappeared 16 years before Madeline McCann. He's been missing 28 years now and never gets as much as a mention.

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pelmetman - 2019-06-16 3:02 PM

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

 

You wouldn't think the police are short staffed if you saw the number of them around the Royal Palaces etc.

Is that the fault of the EU as well *-)

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John52 - 2019-06-16 5:00 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-06-16 3:02 PM

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

 

You wouldn't think the police are short staffed if you saw the number of them around the Royal Palaces etc.

Is that the fault of the EU as well *-)

 

Your obviously a fella that knows ... How many are there then ???

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Birdbrain - 2019-06-16 7:23 PM

 

John52 - 2019-06-16 5:00 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-06-16 3:02 PM

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

 

You wouldn't think the police are short staffed if you saw the number of them around the Royal Palaces etc.

Is that the fault of the EU as well *-)

 

Your obviously a fella that knows ... How many are there then ???

 

Well just for a start - Royal Palaces in the Met Police Area

SO14 of the Met Police are responsible for Royal Protection (family and palaces) and said to have a compliment in the region of 400 officers.

 

http://www.eliteukforces.info/police/SO14-royalty-protection/

 

Then there are the other palaces / Commons / Lords / Downing Street etc

We seem to be going back to the days when the police are only really there to protect the upper classes, and the plebs left to fight it out amongst themselves. Blame the Immigrants / EU etc *-) Same Old Tory Divide & Rule.

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John52 - 2019-06-16 9:58 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2019-06-16 7:23 PM

 

John52 - 2019-06-16 5:00 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-06-16 3:02 PM

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

 

You wouldn't think the police are short staffed if you saw the number of them around the Royal Palaces etc.

Is that the fault of the EU as well *-)

 

Your obviously a fella that knows ... How many are there then ???

 

Well just for a start - Royal Palaces in the Met Police Area

SO14 of the Met Police are responsible for Royal Protection (family and palaces) and said to have a compliment in the region of 400 officers.

 

http://www.eliteukforces.info/police/SO14-royalty-protection/

 

Then there are the other palaces / Commons / Lords / Downing Street etc

We seem to be going back to the days when the police are only really there to protect the upper classes, and the plebs left to fight it out amongst themselves. Blame the Immigrants / EU etc *-) Same Old Tory Divide & Rule.

 

You ever thought quite a lot of those officers are there because of the current terrorist climate some of our "immigrants" have enriched us with ??? ... Wonder if you compare the hours/time and cost The Met spend on Londons knife and gun crime epidemic which seems to be mainly an immigrant issue each year under Sadick to your claim then I wonder which costs more ??? ... Regards Mr Birdbrain ... https://news.sky.com/story/specialist-units-increase-patrols-after-three-killed-in-london-11742967 ... Here are just 5 cops out of many involved in yet another stabbing in Sadicks London ... Blinding Guvnor

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John52 - 2019-06-16 9:58 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2019-06-16 7:23 PM

 

John52 - 2019-06-16 5:00 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-06-16 3:02 PM

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

 

You wouldn't think the police are short staffed if you saw the number of them around the Royal Palaces etc.

Is that the fault of the EU as well *-)

 

Your obviously a fella that knows ... How many are there then ???

 

Well just for a start - Royal Palaces in the Met Police Area

SO14 of the Met Police are responsible for Royal Protection (family and palaces) and said to have a compliment in the region of 400 officers.

 

http://www.eliteukforces.info/police/SO14-royalty-protection/

 

Then there are the other palaces / Commons / Lords / Downing Street etc

We seem to be going back to the days when the police are only really there to protect the upper classes, and the plebs left to fight it out amongst themselves. Blame the Immigrants / EU etc *-) Same Old Tory Divide & Rule.

 

If there weren't so many anti-royalist nut jobs like you around ;-) ..........

 

They prolly wouldn't need that many :D ...........

 

 

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Randonneur - 2019-06-16 3:32 PM

 

If we had not spent 11.75 million pounds on the McCann non UK enquiry we could have employed more police officers.Just a thought.?

 

Perhaps if we had more prisons and locked up criminals for longer we wouldn't need so many police? ;-) ........

 

Just a thought :D ........

 

 

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Birdbrain - 2019-06-17 5:54 AM

 

John52 - 2019-06-16 9:58 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2019-06-16 7:23 PM

 

John52 - 2019-06-16 5:00 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-06-16 3:02 PM

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

 

You wouldn't think the police are short staffed if you saw the number of them around the Royal Palaces etc.

Is that the fault of the EU as well *-)

 

Your obviously a fella that knows ... How many are there then ???

 

Well just for a start - Royal Palaces in the Met Police Area

SO14 of the Met Police are responsible for Royal Protection (family and palaces) and said to have a compliment in the region of 400 officers.

 

http://www.eliteukforces.info/police/SO14-royalty-protection/

 

Then there are the other palaces / Commons / Lords / Downing Street etc

We seem to be going back to the days when the police are only really there to protect the upper classes, and the plebs left to fight it out amongst themselves. Blame the Immigrants / EU etc *-) Same Old Tory Divide & Rule.

 

You ever thought quite a lot of those officers are there because of the current terrorist climate some of our "immigrants" have enriched us with ??? ... Wonder if you compare the hours/time and cost The Met spend on Londons knife and gun crime epidemic which seems to be mainly an immigrant issue each year under Sadick to your claim then I wonder which costs more ??? ... Regards Mr Birdbrain ... https://news.sky.com/story/specialist-units-increase-patrols-after-three-killed-in-london-11742967 ... Here are just 5 cops out of many involved in yet another stabbing in Sadicks London ... Blinding Guvnor

 

The evidence I have seen suggest its mainly a drugs issue. Many police are taken up fighting an unwinnable war against drugs. They can't even keep drugs out of prisons, so what chance is there of keeping them out of the country. We need to legalise soft drugs so we can control them. But that means politicians and senior police officers admitting they were wrong *-)

You have not produced any evidence its mainly an immigrant issue. But there is certainly evidence that as inequality increases so does crime. The government has its fingers in its ears to that too. As immigrants tend to be poorer maybe that makes them more likely to turn to crime?

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pelmetman - 2019-06-17 7:32 AM

 

Randonneur - 2019-06-16 3:32 PM

 

If we had not spent 11.75 million pounds on the McCann non UK enquiry we could have employed more police officers.Just a thought.?

 

Perhaps if we had more prisons and locked up criminals for longer we wouldn't need so many police? ;-) ........

 

Just a thought :D ........

 

 

Strongest argument against that is probably that we are already doing it and it isn't working. Last time I looked Britain had a greater percentage of its population in prison than any major Western country except America where inequality is even greater.

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John52 - 2019-06-16 9:58 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2019-06-16 7:23 PM

 

John52 - 2019-06-16 5:00 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-06-16 3:02 PM

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

 

You wouldn't think the police are short staffed if you saw the number of them around the Royal Palaces etc.

Is that the fault of the EU as well *-)

 

Your obviously a fella that knows ... How many are there then ???

 

Well just for a start - Royal Palaces in the Met Police Area

SO14 of the Met Police are responsible for Royal Protection (family and palaces) and said to have a compliment in the region of 400 officers.

 

http://www.eliteukforces.info/police/SO14-royalty-protection/

 

Then there are the other palaces / Commons / Lords / Downing Street etc

We seem to be going back to the days when the police are only really there to protect the upper classes, and the plebs left to fight it out amongst themselves. Blame the Immigrants / EU etc *-) Same Old Tory Divide & Rule.

 

If there weren't so many anti-royalist nut jobs like you around ;-) ..........

 

They prolly wouldn't need that many :D ...........

 

I am not anti Royalist - I just think those who claim to represent their people should be elected by them. Which they could be as some of them seem quite popular.

I have nothing against them as individuals and would not wish them any harm. They are just doing what most people would do in their circumstances and taking advantage of it. Its the system I blame, not those who lawfully take advantage of it. I would no more blame the Extended Royal Family Hangers On for lawfully milking the system than I would blame Starbucks for not paying tax - paying tax should not be voluntary - who would pay tax if they didn't have to?

People who try to get anywhere near them just increase the number of police protecting them, which takes police away from where they are desperately needed.

You claim the EU is bloated and undemocratic, but you still haven't said why Britain needs more Unelected Superannuated Pointless Royal Family Hangers On than all the rest of Europe put together *-)

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John52 - 2019-06-16 9:58 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2019-06-16 7:23 PM

 

John52 - 2019-06-16 5:00 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-06-16 3:02 PM

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

 

You wouldn't think the police are short staffed if you saw the number of them around the Royal Palaces etc.

Is that the fault of the EU as well *-)

 

Your obviously a fella that knows ... How many are there then ???

 

Well just for a start - Royal Palaces in the Met Police Area

SO14 of the Met Police are responsible for Royal Protection (family and palaces) and said to have a compliment in the region of 400 officers.

 

http://www.eliteukforces.info/police/SO14-royalty-protection/

 

Then there are the other palaces / Commons / Lords / Downing Street etc

We seem to be going back to the days when the police are only really there to protect the upper classes, and the plebs left to fight it out amongst themselves. Blame the Immigrants / EU etc *-) Same Old Tory Divide & Rule.

 

You ever thought quite a lot of those officers are there because of the current terrorist climate some of our "immigrants" have enriched us with ??? ... Wonder if you compare the hours/time and cost The Met spend on Londons knife and gun crime epidemic which seems to be mainly an immigrant issue each year under Sadick to your claim then I wonder which costs more ??? ... Regards Mr Birdbrain ... https://news.sky.com/story/specialist-units-increase-patrols-after-three-killed-in-london-11742967 ... Here are just 5 cops out of many involved in yet another stabbing in Sadicks London ... Blinding Guvnor

 

The evidence I have seen suggest its mainly a drugs issue. Many police are taken up fighting an unwinnable war against drugs. They can't even keep drugs out of prisons, so what chance is there of keeping them out of the country. We need to legalise soft drugs so we can control them. But that means politicians and senior police officers admitting they were wrong *-)

You have not produced any evidence its mainly an immigrant issue. But there is certainly evidence that as inequality increases so does crime. The government has its fingers in its ears to that too. As immigrants tend to be poorer maybe that makes them more likely to turn to crime?

 

You haven't shown any evidence its mainly a drugs issue ... You do know criminal gangs tend to deal in hard drugs dont ya sweetheart

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Birdbrain - 2019-06-17 5:54 AM

 

John52 - 2019-06-16 9:58 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2019-06-16 7:23 PM

 

John52 - 2019-06-16 5:00 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-06-16 3:02 PM

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

 

You wouldn't think the police are short staffed if you saw the number of them around the Royal Palaces etc.

Is that the fault of the EU as well *-)

 

Your obviously a fella that knows ... How many are there then ???

 

Well just for a start - Royal Palaces in the Met Police Area

SO14 of the Met Police are responsible for Royal Protection (family and palaces) and said to have a compliment in the region of 400 officers.

 

http://www.eliteukforces.info/police/SO14-royalty-protection/

 

Then there are the other palaces / Commons / Lords / Downing Street etc

We seem to be going back to the days when the police are only really there to protect the upper classes, and the plebs left to fight it out amongst themselves. Blame the Immigrants / EU etc *-) Same Old Tory Divide & Rule.

 

You ever thought quite a lot of those officers are there because of the current terrorist climate some of our "immigrants" have enriched us with ??? ... Wonder if you compare the hours/time and cost The Met spend on Londons knife and gun crime epidemic which seems to be mainly an immigrant issue each year under Sadick to your claim then I wonder which costs more ??? ... Regards Mr Birdbrain ... https://news.sky.com/story/specialist-units-increase-patrols-after-three-killed-in-london-11742967 ... Here are just 5 cops out of many involved in yet another stabbing in Sadicks London ... Blinding Guvnor

 

The evidence I have seen suggest its mainly a drugs issue. Many police are taken up fighting an unwinnable war against drugs. They can't even keep drugs out of prisons, so what chance is there of keeping them out of the country. We need to legalise soft drugs so we can control them. But that means politicians and senior police officers admitting they were wrong *-)

You have not produced any evidence its mainly an immigrant issue. But there is certainly evidence that as inequality increases so does crime. The government has its fingers in its ears to that too. As immigrants tend to be poorer maybe that makes them more likely to turn to crime?

 

You haven't shown any evidence its mainly a drugs issue ... You do know criminal gangs tend to deal in hard drugs dont ya sweetheart

 

Once you realise criminal gangs tend to deal in ILLEGAL drugs - ie soft drugs and hard drugs

You might get your head round the fact that the Government forcing people to go to Criminal gangs for soft drugs like cannabis leads to Government laws and advice being treated with derision, and gives the Criminal Gangs a start.

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John52 - 2019-06-17 7:55 AM

 

Birdbrain - 2019-06-17 5:54 AM

 

John52 - 2019-06-16 9:58 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2019-06-16 7:23 PM

 

John52 - 2019-06-16 5:00 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-06-16 3:02 PM

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

 

You wouldn't think the police are short staffed if you saw the number of them around the Royal Palaces etc.

Is that the fault of the EU as well *-)

 

Your obviously a fella that knows ... How many are there then ???

 

Well just for a start - Royal Palaces in the Met Police Area

SO14 of the Met Police are responsible for Royal Protection (family and palaces) and said to have a compliment in the region of 400 officers.

 

http://www.eliteukforces.info/police/SO14-royalty-protection/

 

Then there are the other palaces / Commons / Lords / Downing Street etc

We seem to be going back to the days when the police are only really there to protect the upper classes, and the plebs left to fight it out amongst themselves. Blame the Immigrants / EU etc *-) Same Old Tory Divide & Rule.

 

You ever thought quite a lot of those officers are there because of the current terrorist climate some of our "immigrants" have enriched us with ??? ... Wonder if you compare the hours/time and cost The Met spend on Londons knife and gun crime epidemic which seems to be mainly an immigrant issue each year under Sadick to your claim then I wonder which costs more ??? ... Regards Mr Birdbrain ... https://news.sky.com/story/specialist-units-increase-patrols-after-three-killed-in-london-11742967 ... Here are just 5 cops out of many involved in yet another stabbing in Sadicks London ... Blinding Guvnor

 

The evidence I have seen suggest its mainly a drugs issue. Many police are taken up fighting an unwinnable war against drugs. They can't even keep drugs out of prisons, so what chance is there of keeping them out of the country. We need to legalise soft drugs so we can control them. But that means politicians and senior police officers admitting they were wrong *-)

You have not produced any evidence its mainly an immigrant issue. But there is certainly evidence that as inequality increases so does crime. The government has its fingers in its ears to that too. As immigrants tend to be poorer maybe that makes them more likely to turn to crime?

 

You haven't shown any evidence its mainly a drugs issue ... You do know criminal gangs tend to deal in hard drugs dont ya sweetheart

 

Once you realise criminal gangs tend to deal in ILLEGAL drugs - ie soft drugs and hard drugs

You might get your head round the fact that the Government forcing people to go to Criminal gangs for soft drugs like cannabis leads to Government laws and advice being treated with derision, and gives the Criminal Gangs a start.

 

The Government doesnt force anyone to go to criminal gangs princess , thats a choice thing made buy those who want to buy illegal drugs isnt it ??? ... Sweetheart without those folk who buy the illegal drugs we wouldnt have criminal drug gangs would we

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Birdbrain - 2019-06-17 3:13 PM

The Government doesnt force anyone to go to criminal gangs princess , thats a choice thing made buy those who want to buy illegal drugs isnt it ??? ...

 

If they want cannabis who else can they choose to buy it from *-)

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Birdbrain - 2019-06-17 3:13 PM

The Government doesnt force anyone to go to criminal gangs princess , thats a choice thing made buy those who want to buy illegal drugs isnt it ??? ...

 

If they want cannabis who else can they choose to buy it from *-)

 

But its illegal princess ... Its like asking where would you buy a stolen telly from ... The thing your conveniently ignoring is by choice they are breaking the law ... By choice dont break the law set by all Governments and the criminal gangs go bye bye ... Really is quite simple to get even for you

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Birdbrain - 2019-06-17 3:13 PM

The Government doesnt force anyone to go to criminal gangs princess , thats a choice thing made buy those who want to buy illegal drugs isnt it ??? ...

 

If they want cannabis who else can they choose to buy it from *-)

 

But its illegal princess ... Its like asking where would you buy a stolen telly from ... The thing your conveniently ignoring is by choice they are breaking the law ... By choice dont break the law set by all Governments and the criminal gangs go bye bye ... Really is quite simple to get even for you

 

Whats even simpler and more obvious is that soft drugs, like prostitution, doesn't stop when you make it illegal.

It just makes opportunities for criminal gangs instead of legitamate tax-paying honest businesses we can control.

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John52 - 2019-06-16 9:58 PM

 

Birdbrain - 2019-06-16 7:23 PM

 

John52 - 2019-06-16 5:00 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-06-16 3:02 PM

If they're short staffed ;-) ............

 

We should stop the EU increasing their burden :-| ..........

 

You wouldn't think the police are short staffed if you saw the number of them around the Royal Palaces etc.

Is that the fault of the EU as well *-)

 

Your obviously a fella that knows ... How many are there then ???

 

Well just for a start - Royal Palaces in the Met Police Area

SO14 of the Met Police are responsible for Royal Protection (family and palaces) and said to have a compliment in the region of 400 officers.

 

http://www.eliteukforces.info/police/SO14-royalty-protection/

 

Then there are the other palaces / Commons / Lords / Downing Street etc

We seem to be going back to the days when the police are only really there to protect the upper classes, and the plebs left to fight it out amongst themselves. Blame the Immigrants / EU etc *-) Same Old Tory Divide & Rule.

 

If there weren't so many anti-royalist nut jobs like you around ;-) ..........

 

They prolly wouldn't need that many :D ...........

 

I am not anti Royalist - I just think those who claim to represent their people should be elected by them. Which they could be as some of them seem quite popular.

I have nothing against them as individuals and would not wish them any harm. They are just doing what most people would do in their circumstances and taking advantage of it. Its the system I blame, not those who lawfully take advantage of it. I would no more blame the Extended Royal Family Hangers On for lawfully milking the system than I would blame Starbucks for not paying tax - paying tax should not be voluntary - who would pay tax if they didn't have to?

People who try to get anywhere near them just increase the number of police protecting them, which takes police away from where they are desperately needed.

You claim the EU is bloated and undemocratic, but you still haven't said why Britain needs more Unelected Superannuated Pointless Royal Family Hangers On than all the rest of Europe put together *-)

 

Have you ever thought that if we got rid of the Royalty and elected a President instead, we would have had a succession of dingbats as Head of State. And next in line would be Boris. :D

 

Let's stick with the devil we know. ;-)

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