Guest pelmetman Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8313777/UK-plan-exempt-France-travel-quarantine-apply-EU-European-Commission-warns.html 8-) ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtravel Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Given your daily increase in the number of infected, the EU should instead require each country in the community to impose single quarantines on British citizens. Quarantine in France plus quarantine in Belgium plus quarantine in Luxembourg plus quarantine in Germany, etc., etc. For those British who will go to Spain, of course, quarantines in France and in each Comunidad touched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 The EC are correct in what they say as we are still in transition and even a UK Border Force official questioned it's feasibility. Ex-Border Force director general Tony Smith told the Daily Telegraph: 'It would be difficult to see how this could work operationally if you had a different process for the French.' A European Commission spokesman said that Britain is still subject to EU free movement rules while it is in the transition period before leaving the bloc at the end of the year. 'Restrictions to free movement, as well as lifting restrictions, have to comply with the principles of proportionality and non-discrimination,' he said. 'We would expect that the UK in this case would apply the same kind of exemptions to arrivals from other member states, which are in a similar epidemiological situation as France.' Also as it points out any UK traveller wanting to go on a fortnight's holiday to countries other than France will have be away from their place of work for four weeks as they will need to quarantine for two weeks on their return to Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-05-13 8:19 AM https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8313777/UK-plan-exempt-France-travel-quarantine-apply-EU-European-Commission-warns.html 8-) ............ Calm down, Dave! :-) Follow this link: https://tinyurl.com/ycnxjmaa It's as I've said before, you (plus the DM) don't understand how the EU works! All EU states are, and have always been, free to set their own travel restrictions on public health grounds. But, in doing so, they must not unfairly favour or penalise other states. Equally, where one state wishes to grant a travel freedom, it must also grant the same freedom to all other states, or state which it wishes to exclude and why. Austria is in Schengen, and is allowed to restrict travel from other Schengen states on public health grounds. It just has to be clear about which states, and why. See the link for detail. The UK, while still in transition, is still bound by the same rules regarding not discriminating unfairly in favour of, or against, any other EU member state. In the case of Ireland and France, we have failed to state which other states we also wish to admit, and why, and which we wish to restrict, how, and why. Whether this was the UK government forgetting, or being deliberately provocative, is anyone's guess. But the Commissions intervention should have been an entirely foreseeable consequence of favouring two states out of 27 with no reason given, while still under an agreement to play by EU rules. It ain't rocket science! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-05-13 1:06 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-13 8:19 AM https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8313777/UK-plan-exempt-France-travel-quarantine-apply-EU-European-Commission-warns.html 8-) ............ Calm down, Dave! :-) Follow this link: https://tinyurl.com/ycnxjmaa It's as I've said before, you (plus the DM) don't understand how the EU works! All EU states are, and have always been, free to set their own travel restrictions on public health grounds. But, in doing so, they must not unfairly favour or penalise other states. Equally, where one state wishes to grant a travel freedom, it must also grant the same freedom to all other states, or state which it wishes to exclude and why. Austria is in Schengen, and is allowed to restrict travel from other Schengen states on public health grounds. It just has to be clear about which states, and why. See the link for detail. The UK, while still in transition, is still bound by the same rules regarding not discriminating unfairly in favour of, or against, any other EU member state. In the case of Ireland and France, we have failed to state which other states we also wish to admit, and why, and which we wish to restrict, how, and why. Whether this was the UK government forgetting, or being deliberately provocative, is anyone's guess. But the Commissions intervention should have been an entirely foreseeable consequence of favouring two states out of 27 with no reason given, while still under an agreement to play by EU rules. It ain't rocket science! :-D It's funny how the EU objects to us being picky about who we let in, yet didn't appear to object to the queues at the border between Spain & France? *-) .......... Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 12:21 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. So what you are saying the EU objected to us closing our borders....... when they were opening their borders? ;-) ...... Kinda just shows they only want us for our money in my book :-| ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-05-20 4:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 12:21 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. So what you are saying the EU objected to us closing our borders....... when they were opening their borders? ;-) ...... Jeez.....are you just being purposely obtuse or do you genuinely have difficulty in comprehending what Brian wrote? *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-05-20 5:04 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 4:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 12:21 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. So what you are saying the EU objected to us closing our borders....... when they were opening their borders? ;-) ...... Jeez.....are you just being purposely obtuse or do you genuinely have difficulty in comprehending what Brian wrote? *-) Nope ;-) ...... I'm just pointing out that the EU hasn't threatened to sue anyone except the UK :-| ....... Nice neighbours.......... Nasty Gangmaster *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-05-20 5:15 PM Bulletguy - 2020-05-20 5:04 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 4:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 12:21 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. So what you are saying the EU objected to us closing our borders....... when they were opening their borders? ;-) ...... Jeez.....are you just being purposely obtuse or do you genuinely have difficulty in comprehending what Brian wrote? *-) Nope ;-) ...... I'm just pointing out that the EU hasn't threatened to sue anyone except the UK :-| ....... Brian explained in crystal clear terms to you in a post SEVEN DAYS ago. Why do you need everything repeated back to you like a child? Brian Kirby - 2020-05-13 1:06 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-13 8:19 AM https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8313777/UK-plan-exempt-France-travel-quarantine-apply-EU-European-Commission-warns.html 8-) ............ Calm down, Dave! :-) Follow this link: https://tinyurl.com/ycnxjmaa It's as I've said before, you (plus the DM) don't understand how the EU works! All EU states are, and have always been, free to set their own travel restrictions on public health grounds. But, in doing so, they must not unfairly favour or penalise other states. Equally, where one state wishes to grant a travel freedom, it must also grant the same freedom to all other states, or state which it wishes to exclude and why. Austria is in Schengen, and is allowed to restrict travel from other Schengen states on public health grounds. It just has to be clear about which states, and why. See the link for detail. The UK, while still in transition, is still bound by the same rules regarding not discriminating unfairly in favour of, or against, any other EU member state. In the case of Ireland and France, we have failed to state which other states we also wish to admit, and why, and which we wish to restrict, how, and why. Whether this was the UK government forgetting, or being deliberately provocative, is anyone's guess. But the Commissions intervention should have been an entirely foreseeable consequence of favouring two states out of 27 with no reason given, while still under an agreement to play by EU rules. It ain't rocket science! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-05-20 5:30 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 5:15 PM Bulletguy - 2020-05-20 5:04 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 4:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 12:21 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. So what you are saying the EU objected to us closing our borders....... when they were opening their borders? ;-) ...... Jeez.....are you just being purposely obtuse or do you genuinely have difficulty in comprehending what Brian wrote? *-) Nope ;-) ...... I'm just pointing out that the EU hasn't threatened to sue anyone except the UK :-| ....... Brian explained in crystal clear terms to you in a post SEVEN DAYS ago. Why do you need everything repeated back to you like a child? Brian Kirby - 2020-05-13 1:06 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-13 8:19 AM https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8313777/UK-plan-exempt-France-travel-quarantine-apply-EU-European-Commission-warns.html 8-) ............ Calm down, Dave! :-) Follow this link: https://tinyurl.com/ycnxjmaa It's as I've said before, you (plus the DM) don't understand how the EU works! All EU states are, and have always been, free to set their own travel restrictions on public health grounds. But, in doing so, they must not unfairly favour or penalise other states. Equally, where one state wishes to grant a travel freedom, it must also grant the same freedom to all other states, or state which it wishes to exclude and why. Austria is in Schengen, and is allowed to restrict travel from other Schengen states on public health grounds. It just has to be clear about which states, and why. See the link for detail. The UK, while still in transition, is still bound by the same rules regarding not discriminating unfairly in favour of, or against, any other EU member state. In the case of Ireland and France, we have failed to state which other states we also wish to admit, and why, and which we wish to restrict, how, and why. Whether this was the UK government forgetting, or being deliberately provocative, is anyone's guess. But the Commissions intervention should have been an entirely foreseeable consequence of favouring two states out of 27 with no reason given, while still under an agreement to play by EU rules. It ain't rocket science! :-D How many pieces of bogroll do you need to wipe Brian's ar*e? ;-) ....... Just curious? :D ......... As I'm quite capable of putting your fellow muppet partner in his place (lol) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-05-13 1:06 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-13 8:19 AM https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8313777/UK-plan-exempt-France-travel-quarantine-apply-EU-European-Commission-warns.html 8-) ............ Calm down, Dave! :-) Follow this link: https://tinyurl.com/ycnxjmaa It's as I've said before, you (plus the DM) don't understand how the EU works! All EU states are, and have always been, free to set their own travel restrictions on public health grounds. But, in doing so, they must not unfairly favour or penalise other states. Equally, where one state wishes to grant a travel freedom, it must also grant the same freedom to all other states, or state which it wishes to exclude and why. Thanks for explaining another reason why we don't need to be part of the EU B-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-05-20 4:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 12:21 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. So what you are saying the EU objected to us closing our borders....... when they were opening their borders? ;-) ...... Kinda just shows they only want us for our money in my book :-| ........ No they objected to us favouring the French and the Irish to the disadvantage of citizens of the other 26 states, which is exactly what I said above. The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid, without favouring or penalising any particular state. Specsavers + little grey cells? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-05-20 5:56 PM...………………..Thanks for explaining another reason why we don't need to be part of the EU B-) ......... That you want the UK to have the right to control its borders, but object to the EU doing the same. That's bound to be good for that famous trade deal - not! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-05-20 5:50 PM...……………………..As I'm quite capable of putting your fellow muppet partner in his place (lol) ....... In your dreams, Baby! You ain't even close! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 6:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 4:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 12:21 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. So what you are saying the EU objected to us closing our borders....... when they were opening their borders? ;-) ...... Kinda just shows they only want us for our money in my book :-| ........ No they objected to us favouring the French and the Irish to the disadvantage of citizens of the other 26 states, which is exactly what I said above. The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid, without favouring or penalising any particular state. Specsavers + little grey cells? Not sure they do binoculars and brain transplants. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 6:42 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 5:56 PM...………………..Thanks for explaining another reason why we don't need to be part of the EU B-) ......... That you want the UK to have the right to control its borders, but object to the EU doing the same. That's bound to be good for that famous trade deal - not! :-D Ask me again on the 1st of January 2021 :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 6:50 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 5:50 PM...……………………..As I'm quite capable of putting your fellow muppet partner in his place (lol) ....... In your dreams, Baby! You ain't even close! :-D Prolly not from the balcony you two muppets inhabit :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 6:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 4:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 12:21 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. So what you are saying the EU objected to us closing our borders....... when they were opening their borders? ;-) ...... Kinda just shows they only want us for our money in my book :-| ........ No they objected to us favouring the French and the Irish to the disadvantage of citizens of the other 26 states, which is exactly what I said above. The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid, without favouring or penalising any particular state. Specsavers + little grey cells? "The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid" Which is what Boris wanted to do *-) ......... So it's OK for them but not for us >:-( ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-05-20 6:58 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 6:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 4:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 12:21 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. So what you are saying the EU objected to us closing our borders....... when they were opening their borders? ;-) ...... Kinda just shows they only want us for our money in my book :-| ........ No they objected to us favouring the French and the Irish to the disadvantage of citizens of the other 26 states, which is exactly what I said above. The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid, without favouring or penalising any particular state. Specsavers + little grey cells? "The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid" Which is what Boris wanted to do *-) ......... So it's OK for them but not for us >:-( ........ You edited out the part you wanted to avoid! "The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid, without favouring or penalising any particular state." And thats exactly what Johnson tried to do (bib).....favour one state, France, whilst penalising others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-05-20 7:23 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 6:58 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 6:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 4:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 12:21 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. So what you are saying the EU objected to us closing our borders....... when they were opening their borders? ;-) ...... Kinda just shows they only want us for our money in my book :-| ........ No they objected to us favouring the French and the Irish to the disadvantage of citizens of the other 26 states, which is exactly what I said above. The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid, without favouring or penalising any particular state. Specsavers + little grey cells? "The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid" Which is what Boris wanted to do *-) ......... So it's OK for them but not for us >:-( ........ You edited out the part you wanted to avoid! "The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid, without favouring or penalising any particular state." And thats exactly what Johnson tried to do (bib).....favour one state, France, whilst penalising others. So when France closed their border to Spain :-| ........ That didn't penalise Spain or Portugal? *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-05-20 7:34 PM Bulletguy - 2020-05-20 7:23 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 6:58 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 6:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 4:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 12:21 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. So what you are saying the EU objected to us closing our borders....... when they were opening their borders? ;-) ...... Kinda just shows they only want us for our money in my book :-| ........ No they objected to us favouring the French and the Irish to the disadvantage of citizens of the other 26 states, which is exactly what I said above. The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid, without favouring or penalising any particular state. Specsavers + little grey cells? "The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid" Which is what Boris wanted to do *-) ......... So it's OK for them but not for us >:-( ........ You edited out the part you wanted to avoid! "The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid, without favouring or penalising any particular state." And thats exactly what Johnson tried to do (bib).....favour one state, France, whilst penalising others. So when France closed their border to Spain :-| ........ That didn't penalise Spain or Portugal? *-) ........ No because their border was also closing which was why they booted you out because you don't live there. Johnsons mistake was trying to favour France but shutting the door to other states. Quite why France i've no idea....maybe as daddy Stanley has applied for citizenship there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-05-20 8:30 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 7:34 PM Bulletguy - 2020-05-20 7:23 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 6:58 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 6:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-20 4:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-20 12:21 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-15 2:24 PM Brian Kirby - 2020-05-15 12:39 PM pelmetman - 2020-05-14 7:55 AM ...……………….Selective nitpicking by our so called "Friends" in the EU in my view >:-) ......... Then you need to inform your view by reading the information provided via my post, which explains why your view is mistaken. Has the EU threatened to take France or Spain to court? ;-) ........... Just askin >:-) ....... You just don't read, do you? I answered that point above. Numerous EU states (I cited Austria above) closed their borders to travellers from other EU states. The UK relaxed its border controls (until the wind changed and they unrelaxed them again) in favour of just France and Ireland, which discriminated against all the other states. It is that discrimination which the EU objected to. The closures adopted by France and Spain (and other states) applied equally to the citizens of all other EU states. So, no discrimination, no complaint. So what you are saying the EU objected to us closing our borders....... when they were opening their borders? ;-) ...... Kinda just shows they only want us for our money in my book :-| ........ No they objected to us favouring the French and the Irish to the disadvantage of citizens of the other 26 states, which is exactly what I said above. The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid, without favouring or penalising any particular state. Specsavers + little grey cells? "The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid" Which is what Boris wanted to do *-) ......... So it's OK for them but not for us >:-( ........ You edited out the part you wanted to avoid! "The other states had closed their borders to exclude Covid, without favouring or penalising any particular state." And thats exactly what Johnson tried to do (bib).....favour one state, France, whilst penalising others. So when France closed their border to Spain :-| ........ That didn't penalise Spain or Portugal? *-) ........ No because their border was also closing which was why they booted you out because you don't live there. Johnsons mistake was trying to favour France but shutting the door to other states. Quite why France i've no idea....maybe as daddy Stanley has applied for citizenship there. Did the EU threaten to sue them? >:-) .............Nope *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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