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userBrian Kirby
Posted: 28 June 2019 5:53 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-26 7:16 AM.....................then folk like Farage could get to run the EU instead of Germany ............
Then I'd be happy to stay in the EU ............

So now you want to stay in the EU? You seem to have obtained highly classified information that no-one else has. Does Farage really now run Germany, as you say above? When did this happen? Has anyone told Merkel? Is that why she's been trembling?
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Posted: 28 June 2019 5:56 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.
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Posted: 28 June 2019 6:04 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........





Edited by pelmetman 2019-06-28 6:14 PM
userBulletguy
Posted: 28 June 2019 9:21 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-28 6:04 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........

UK has one Commissioner, that's all you didn't get to vote for just as you didn't get to vote for any of the 800 unelected UK peers.
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Posted: 28 June 2019 9:54 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-28 9:21 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 6:04 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........

UK has one Commissioner, that's all you didn't get to vote for just as you didn't get to vote for any of the 800 unelected UK peers.


Well whoopy do....... for 9 billion pounds a year we get to send a EU sycophant to Brussels........what a bargain .........

userBulletguy
Posted: 28 June 2019 10:11 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-28 9:54 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-28 9:21 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 6:04 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........

UK has one Commissioner, that's all you didn't get to vote for just as you didn't get to vote for any of the 800 unelected UK peers.


Well whoopy do....... for 9 billion pounds a year we get to send a EU sycophant to Brussels........what a bargain .........

No it's not, i told you yesterday his salary is 240k euro pa. You're being silly again.
userpelmetman
Posted: 28 June 2019 10:13 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-28 10:11 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 9:54 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-28 9:21 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 6:04 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........

UK has one Commissioner, that's all you didn't get to vote for just as you didn't get to vote for any of the 800 unelected UK peers.


Well whoopy do....... for 9 billion pounds a year we get to send a EU sycophant to Brussels........what a bargain .........

No it's not, i told you yesterday his salary is 240k euro pa. You're being silly again.


What's silly about 9 billion of taxpayers money a year? ........

userBulletguy
Posted: 29 June 2019 5:03 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-28 10:13 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-28 10:11 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 9:54 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-28 9:21 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 6:04 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........

UK has one Commissioner, that's all you didn't get to vote for just as you didn't get to vote for any of the 800 unelected UK peers.


Well whoopy do....... for 9 billion pounds a year we get to send a EU sycophant to Brussels........what a bargain .........

No it's not, i told you yesterday his salary is 240k euro pa. You're being silly again.


What's silly about 9 billion of taxpayers money a year? ........

You aren't a taxpayer.

pelmetman - 2019-03-02 8:34 AM

I dont pay income tax ...........
userpelmetman
Posted: 29 June 2019 8:38 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-29 5:03 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 10:13 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-28 10:11 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 9:54 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-28 9:21 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 6:04 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........

UK has one Commissioner, that's all you didn't get to vote for just as you didn't get to vote for any of the 800 unelected UK peers.


Well whoopy do....... for 9 billion pounds a year we get to send a EU sycophant to Brussels........what a bargain .........

No it's not, i told you yesterday his salary is 240k euro pa. You're being silly again.


What's silly about 9 billion of taxpayers money a year? ........

You aren't a taxpayer.

pelmetman - 2019-03-02 8:34 AM

I dont pay income tax ...........


I'm a UK stealth tax payer ........and will more than likely have to start paying income tax again through no fault of my own ..........

userBrian Kirby
Posted: 30 June 2019 12:38 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-28 6:04 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........

That's your opinion. The question was "do you know how they are appointed? So, do you?
userpelmetman
Posted: 30 June 2019 1:23 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2019-06-30 12:38 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 6:04 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........

That's your opinion. The question was "do you know how they are appointed? So, do you?


Yes......Julian King was appointed by Cameron who wanted him to have the environment brief ........

Instead Junker made him milk monitor .........

https://www.politico.eu/article/julian-king-brexit-eu-commissioner-uk-terrorism/

It's pretty obvious our dear EU neighbours have little love for us Brits........best we get out of their club ASAP methinks ...........

userBulletguy
Posted: 30 June 2019 2:49 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-30 1:23 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-30 12:38 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 6:04 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........

That's your opinion. The question was "do you know how they are appointed? So, do you?


Yes......Julian King was appointed by Cameron who wanted him to have the environment brief ........

Instead Junker made him milk monitor .........

https://www.politico.eu/article/julian-king-brexit-eu-commissioner-uk-terrorism/

It's pretty obvious our dear EU neighbours have little love for us Brits........best we get out of their club ASAP methinks ...........

That's not correct. King was nominated by Cameron as all Commisoners for each country are and the EU then select.

New legislation proposed by the Commission still has to be agreed by the member states and passed by the European Parliament, which is directly elected by EU voters. So it's misleading to say unelected bureaucrats make decisions in the EU. The 28 European commissioners are meant to carry out their responsibilities independently of their national governments. In that sense, they are similar to British civil servants - politically impartial and independent of the government.

The statement of unelected bureaucrats making decisions in the EU is therefore somewhat misleading.


And here is another little nugget of info you should bear in mind;

As an institution, the European Commission relies on the work of about 33,000 officials, staff, and special advisers. The UK, by contrast, has more than 400,000 civil servants, according to 2015 figures from the Office for National Statistics.
userBrian Kirby
Posted: 3 July 2019 1:20 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-30 2:49 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-30 1:23 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-30 12:38 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 6:04 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........

That's your opinion. The question was "do you know how they are appointed? So, do you?


Yes......Julian King was appointed by Cameron who wanted him to have the environment brief ........

Instead Junker made him milk monitor .........

https://www.politico.eu/article/julian-king-brexit-eu-commissioner-uk-terrorism/

It's pretty obvious our dear EU neighbours have little love for us Brits........best we get out of their club ASAP methinks ...........

That's not correct. King was nominated by Cameron as all Commisoners for each country are and the EU then select.

New legislation proposed by the Commission still has to be agreed by the member states and passed by the European Parliament, which is directly elected by EU voters. So it's misleading to say unelected bureaucrats make decisions in the EU. The 28 European commissioners are meant to carry out their responsibilities independently of their national governments. In that sense, they are similar to British civil servants - politically impartial and independent of the government.

The statement of unelected bureaucrats making decisions in the EU is therefore somewhat misleading.


And here is another little nugget of info you should bear in mind;

As an institution, the European Commission relies on the work of about 33,000 officials, staff, and special advisers. The UK, by contrast, has more than 400,000 civil servants, according to 2015 figures from the Office for National Statistics.

Quite! Myth versus fact, eh? Who to believe? Now let me see.........….tough innit?
userBulletguy
Posted: 3 July 2019 1:37 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2019-07-03 1:20 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-30 2:49 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-30 1:23 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-30 12:38 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 6:04 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........

That's your opinion. The question was "do you know how they are appointed? So, do you?


Yes......Julian King was appointed by Cameron who wanted him to have the environment brief ........

Instead Junker made him milk monitor .........

https://www.politico.eu/article/julian-king-brexit-eu-commissioner-uk-terrorism/

It's pretty obvious our dear EU neighbours have little love for us Brits........best we get out of their club ASAP methinks ...........

That's not correct. King was nominated by Cameron as all Commisoners for each country are and the EU then select.

New legislation proposed by the Commission still has to be agreed by the member states and passed by the European Parliament, which is directly elected by EU voters. So it's misleading to say unelected bureaucrats make decisions in the EU. The 28 European commissioners are meant to carry out their responsibilities independently of their national governments. In that sense, they are similar to British civil servants - politically impartial and independent of the government.

The statement of unelected bureaucrats making decisions in the EU is therefore somewhat misleading.


And here is another little nugget of info you should bear in mind;

As an institution, the European Commission relies on the work of about 33,000 officials, staff, and special advisers. The UK, by contrast, has more than 400,000 civil servants, according to 2015 figures from the Office for National Statistics.

Quite! Myth versus fact, eh? Who to believe? Now let me see.........….tough innit?

It seems some still prefer to believe in unicorns!
userpelmetman
Posted: 3 July 2019 7:00 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-30 2:49 PM

And here is another little nugget of info you should bear in mind;

As an institution, the European Commission relies on the work of about 33,000 officials, staff, and special advisers. The UK, by contrast, has more than 400,000 civil servants, according to 2015 figures from the Office for National Statistics.


So it's time to get out before we end up financing 400,000 EU bottom feeders .........

We have enough of our own to support .........

userBulletguy
Posted: 3 July 2019 7:29 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-07-03 7:00 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-30 2:49 PM

And here is another little nugget of info you should bear in mind;

As an institution, the European Commission relies on the work of about 33,000 officials, staff, and special advisers. The UK, by contrast, has more than 400,000 civil servants, according to 2015 figures from the Office for National Statistics.


So it's time to get out before we end up financing 400,000 EU bottom feeders .........

We have enough of our own to support .........

How are those 400,000 "EU bottom feeders"? They are employed by UK gov in UK.....nothing to do with EU.
userpelmetman
Posted: 3 July 2019 7:37 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 7:29 PM

pelmetman - 2019-07-03 7:00 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-30 2:49 PM

And here is another little nugget of info you should bear in mind;

As an institution, the European Commission relies on the work of about 33,000 officials, staff, and special advisers. The UK, by contrast, has more than 400,000 civil servants, according to 2015 figures from the Office for National Statistics.


So it's time to get out before we end up financing 400,000 EU bottom feeders .........

We have enough of our own to support .........

How are those 400,000 "EU bottom feeders"? They are employed by UK gov in UK.....nothing to do with EU.


Get your nurse to up your dose ........

Or try reading what I typed again .........

Or try googling the meaning of "Before" .........

userBulletguy
Posted: 3 July 2019 8:42 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-07-03 7:37 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 7:29 PM

pelmetman - 2019-07-03 7:00 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-30 2:49 PM

And here is another little nugget of info you should bear in mind;

As an institution, the European Commission relies on the work of about 33,000 officials, staff, and special advisers. The UK, by contrast, has more than 400,000 civil servants, according to 2015 figures from the Office for National Statistics.


So it's time to get out before we end up financing 400,000 EU bottom feeders .........

We have enough of our own to support .........

How are those 400,000 "EU bottom feeders"? They are employed by UK gov in UK.....nothing to do with EU.


Get your nurse to up your dose ........

Or try reading what I typed again .........

Or try googling the meaning of "Before" .........

So now you believe if UK leaves the EU.....those 400,000 "bottom feeders" (they're civil servants btw) employed by UK in UK for UK, will see job cuts? Where have you drawn that conclusion from when they are nothing to do with EU? You're being somewhat evasive with your obfuscation.
userpelmetman
Posted: 3 July 2019 8:53 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 8:42 PM

pelmetman - 2019-07-03 7:37 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 7:29 PM

pelmetman - 2019-07-03 7:00 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-30 2:49 PM

And here is another little nugget of info you should bear in mind;

As an institution, the European Commission relies on the work of about 33,000 officials, staff, and special advisers. The UK, by contrast, has more than 400,000 civil servants, according to 2015 figures from the Office for National Statistics.


So it's time to get out before we end up financing 400,000 EU bottom feeders .........

We have enough of our own to support .........

How are those 400,000 "EU bottom feeders"? They are employed by UK gov in UK.....nothing to do with EU.


Get your nurse to up your dose ........

Or try reading what I typed again .........

Or try googling the meaning of "Before" .........

So now you believe if UK leaves the EU.....those 400,000 "bottom feeders" (they're civil servants btw) employed by UK in UK for UK, will see job cuts? Where have you drawn that conclusion from when they are nothing to do with EU? You're being somewhat evasive with your obfuscation.


.......and you're talking out of your bottom feeder ar*e as per usual ...........

BTW .....How many years did you spend as a "Victim?" ........

Ooop's I mean't to say employed by the taxpayer ........

Your not very grateful are you? .........

Just sayin ........



Edited by pelmetman 2019-07-03 8:56 PM
userBulletguy
Posted: 3 July 2019 9:48 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-07-03 8:53 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 8:42 PM

So now you believe if UK leaves the EU.....those 400,000 "bottom feeders" (they're civil servants btw) employed by UK in UK for UK, will see job cuts? Where have you drawn that conclusion from when they are nothing to do with EU? You're being somewhat evasive with your obfuscation.


.......and you're talking out of your bottom feeder ar*e as per usual ...........

BTW .....How many years did you spend as a "Victim?" ........

Ooop's I mean't to say employed by the taxpayer ........

Your not very grateful are you? .........

Just sayin ........

You're still being evasive prattling away with your usual tweet like silliness to avoid giving a logical answer.

You stated earlier; "So it's time to get out before we end up financing 400,000 EU bottom feeders."

I've repeatedly asked you to clarify precisely how you have drawn the conclusion that 400,000 has anything to do with the EU when they are employed here in UK for UK...not EU.....but you're persistently avoiding answering that very simple question. So i'd like a sensible answer to that question first please.

Secondly, if UK leaves EU, what makes you believe UK will no longer need to "finance 400,000 EU 'bottom feeders' " bearing in mind they are not as you imply, in the employ of EU.....but UK.
So i'd also appreciate a sensible answer to that question also please.
userpelmetman
Posted: 3 July 2019 9:56 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 9:48 PM

pelmetman - 2019-07-03 8:53 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 8:42 PM

So now you believe if UK leaves the EU.....those 400,000 "bottom feeders" (they're civil servants btw) employed by UK in UK for UK, will see job cuts? Where have you drawn that conclusion from when they are nothing to do with EU? You're being somewhat evasive with your obfuscation.


.......and you're talking out of your bottom feeder ar*e as per usual ...........

BTW .....How many years did you spend as a "Victim?" ........

Ooop's I mean't to say employed by the taxpayer ........

Your not very grateful are you? .........

Just sayin ........

You're still being evasive prattling away with your usual tweet like silliness to avoid giving a logical answer.

You stated earlier; "So it's time to get out before we end up financing 400,000 EU bottom feeders."

I've repeatedly asked you to clarify precisely how you have drawn the conclusion that 400,000 has anything to do with the EU when they are employed here in UK for UK...not EU.....but you're persistently avoiding answering that very simple question. So i'd like a sensible answer to that question first please.

Secondly, if UK leaves EU, what makes you believe UK will no longer need to "finance 400,000 EU 'bottom feeders' " bearing in mind they are not as you imply, in the employ of EU.....but UK.
So i'd also appreciate a sensible answer to that question also please.


"Before"

Meaning of before in English

preposition, adverb, conjunction UK ? /b?'f??r/ US ? /b?'f??r/
?
A1 at or during a time earlier than (the thing mentioned):

You should always wash your hands before meals.
Before leaving he said goodbye to each of them.
She's always up before dawn.
Before he could reach the door, she quickly closed it.
Before we make a decision, does anyone want to say anything else?
She had to give the doorman a tip before he would help her with her suitcases (= he would not do it until she had given him a tip).
?
B1 until (the event mentioned):

It was an hour before the police arrived.
?
A2 in the past:

He said he had never seen her before.
****I feel as though I've been here before.*****

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/before

Don't I just ........

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pelmetman - 2019-07-03 9:56 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 9:48 PM

pelmetman - 2019-07-03 8:53 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 8:42 PM

So now you believe if UK leaves the EU.....those 400,000 "bottom feeders" (they're civil servants btw) employed by UK in UK for UK, will see job cuts? Where have you drawn that conclusion from when they are nothing to do with EU? You're being somewhat evasive with your obfuscation.


.......and you're talking out of your bottom feeder ar*e as per usual ...........

BTW .....How many years did you spend as a "Victim?" ........

Ooop's I mean't to say employed by the taxpayer ........

Your not very grateful are you? .........

Just sayin ........

You're still being evasive prattling away with your usual tweet like silliness to avoid giving a logical answer.

You stated earlier; "So it's time to get out before we end up financing 400,000 EU bottom feeders."

I've repeatedly asked you to clarify precisely how you have drawn the conclusion that 400,000 has anything to do with the EU when they are employed here in UK for UK...not EU.....but you're persistently avoiding answering that very simple question. So i'd like a sensible answer to that question first please.

Secondly, if UK leaves EU, what makes you believe UK will no longer need to "finance 400,000 EU 'bottom feeders' " bearing in mind they are not as you imply, in the employ of EU.....but UK.
So i'd also appreciate a sensible answer to that question also please.


"Before"

Meaning of

Quit waffling garbage and pulling the shutters down with desperate obfuscation. I asked, very politely, for sensible answers to those two points i raised.

Now......have another attempt please instead of persistently evading.
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Posted: 4 July 2019 8:53 AM
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Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 10:32 PM

pelmetman - 2019-07-03 9:56 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 9:48 PM

pelmetman - 2019-07-03 8:53 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 8:42 PM

So now you believe if UK leaves the EU.....those 400,000 "bottom feeders" (they're civil servants btw) employed by UK in UK for UK, will see job cuts? Where have you drawn that conclusion from when they are nothing to do with EU? You're being somewhat evasive with your obfuscation.


.......and you're talking out of your bottom feeder ar*e as per usual ...........

BTW .....How many years did you spend as a "Victim?" ........

Ooop's I mean't to say employed by the taxpayer ........

Your not very grateful are you? .........

Just sayin ........

You're still being evasive prattling away with your usual tweet like silliness to avoid giving a logical answer.

You stated earlier; "So it's time to get out before we end up financing 400,000 EU bottom feeders."

I've repeatedly asked you to clarify precisely how you have drawn the conclusion that 400,000 has anything to do with the EU when they are employed here in UK for UK...not EU.....but you're persistently avoiding answering that very simple question. So i'd like a sensible answer to that question first please.

Secondly, if UK leaves EU, what makes you believe UK will no longer need to "finance 400,000 EU 'bottom feeders' " bearing in mind they are not as you imply, in the employ of EU.....but UK.
So i'd also appreciate a sensible answer to that question also please.


"Before"

Meaning of

Quit waffling garbage and pulling the shutters down with desperate obfuscation. I asked, very politely, for sensible answers to those two points i raised.

Now......have another attempt please instead of persistently evading.


No point in spending more time on one of the thick 18% ..........

userteflon2
Posted: 4 July 2019 7:31 PM
Subject: RE: First impressions of the EU gravy train............
 
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Brian Kirby - 2019-07-03 1:20 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-30 2:49 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-30 1:23 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-30 12:38 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-28 6:04 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-06-28 5:56 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-25 9:49 PM...…………….I didn't get to elect any of the Commissioners/Minsters.......Nor can I sack them as I can with my ELECTED MP Minister or MEP at the next election ..........

Are you now claiming that Commissioners are Ministers, or what? Do you know how Commissioners come to hold their posts? Do tell.


Actually they're much worse ........

They're accountable to no one accept those who curry their favour in the European Parliament ........

Cant say I'd describe a a daisy chain of bum licker's very democratic ? .........

That's your opinion. The question was "do you know how they are appointed? So, do you?


Yes......Julian King was appointed by Cameron who wanted him to have the environment brief ........

Instead Junker made him milk monitor .........

https://www.politico.eu/article/julian-king-brexit-eu-commissioner-uk-terrorism/

It's pretty obvious our dear EU neighbours have little love for us Brits........best we get out of their club ASAP methinks ...........

That's not correct. King was nominated by Cameron as all Commisoners for each country are and the EU then select.

New legislation proposed by the Commission still has to be agreed by the member states and passed by the European Parliament, which is directly elected by EU voters. So it's misleading to say unelected bureaucrats make decisions in the EU. The 28 European commissioners are meant to carry out their responsibilities independently of their national governments. In that sense, they are similar to British civil servants - politically impartial and independent of the government.

The statement of unelected bureaucrats making decisions in the EU is therefore somewhat misleading.


And here is another little nugget of info you should bear in mind;

As an institution, the European Commission relies on the work of about 33,000 officials, staff, and special advisers. The UK, by contrast, has more than 400,000 civil servants, according to 2015 figures from the Office for National Statistics.

Quite! Myth versus fact, eh? Who to believe? Now let me see.........….tough innit?




First time I've ever heard of the commissions DIRECTIVES being described as new legislation. They are actually handed down to the EU parliament and then required to be action ed within 2 years.
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Posted: 4 July 2019 7:56 PM
Subject: RE: First impressions of the EU gravy train............
 


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pelmetman - 2019-07-04 8:53 AM

Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 10:32 PM

pelmetman - 2019-07-03 9:56 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 9:48 PM

pelmetman - 2019-07-03 8:53 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-07-03 8:42 PM

So now you believe if UK leaves the EU.....those 400,000 "bottom feeders" (they're civil servants btw) employed by UK in UK for UK, will see job cuts? Where have you drawn that conclusion from when they are nothing to do with EU? You're being somewhat evasive with your obfuscation.


.......and you're talking out of your bottom feeder ar*e as per usual ...........

BTW .....How many years did you spend as a "Victim?" ........

Ooop's I mean't to say employed by the taxpayer ........

Your not very grateful are you? .........

Just sayin ........

You're still being evasive prattling away with your usual tweet like silliness to avoid giving a logical answer.

You stated earlier; "So it's time to get out before we end up financing 400,000 EU bottom feeders."

I've repeatedly asked you to clarify precisely how you have drawn the conclusion that 400,000 has anything to do with the EU when they are employed here in UK for UK...not EU.....but you're persistently avoiding answering that very simple question. So i'd like a sensible answer to that question first please.

Secondly, if UK leaves EU, what makes you believe UK will no longer need to "finance 400,000 EU 'bottom feeders' " bearing in mind they are not as you imply, in the employ of EU.....but UK.
So i'd also appreciate a sensible answer to that question also please.


"Before"

Meaning of

Quit waffling garbage and pulling the shutters down with desperate obfuscation. I asked, very politely, for sensible answers to those two points i raised.

Now......have another attempt please instead of persistently evading.


No point in spending more time on one of the thick 18% ..........

Simple fact is you don't want to acknowledge what you'd initially believed was all the doing of the "nasty EU", turned out to be UK's inability to implement for reasons stated in the HOL report. You've ducked, dived and done everything you possibly could to avoid facing up to that awkward fact so resorted to inane nonsensical 'tweet' responses and obfuscation as you always do.
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Posted: 5 July 2019 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: First impressions of the EU gravy train............
 


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So yet again we have a perfect example of how undemocratic the EU is ...........

Merkel & Macron do a backroom deal to put a German in charge of the Fourth Reich .......

But hey!...... the "Elected" EU parliament will get the opportunity to use their rubber stamp again .........



Edited by pelmetman 2019-07-05 8:48 AM
userBulletguy
Posted: 5 July 2019 4:32 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-07-05 8:47 AM

So yet again we have a perfect example of how undemocratic the EU is ...........

Merkel & Macron do a backroom deal to put a German in charge of the Fourth Reich .......

But hey!...... the "Elected" EU parliament will get the opportunity to use their rubber stamp again .......

No more undemocratic as our own HOL.....and there's 800 of them which you never complain about. Can't think why.

However on this particular matter not only has the EP condemned it, but spoken out on it.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/european-commission-president-ursula-von-der-leyen-juncker-eu-parliament-a8987841.html

And it will please you more that only one third of German citizens believe Ursula von der Leyen would make a good Commission president. She's a politician in the right wing CDU party but i expect you'd have preferred the installment of an unelected jackbooted AfD politician.

https://www.politico.eu/article/most-germans-skeptical-of-ursula-von-der-leyen-poll/
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Posted: 5 July 2019 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: First impressions of the EU gravy train............
 


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Bulletguy - 2019-07-05 4:32 PM

pelmetman - 2019-07-05 8:47 AM

So yet again we have a perfect example of how undemocratic the EU is ...........

Merkel & Macron do a backroom deal to put a German in charge of the Fourth Reich .......

But hey!...... the "Elected" EU parliament will get the opportunity to use their rubber stamp again .......

No more undemocratic as our own HOL.....and there's 800 of them which you never complain about. Can't think why.

However on this particular matter not only has the EP condemned it, but spoken out on it.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/european-commission-president-ursula-von-der-leyen-juncker-eu-parliament-a8987841.html

And it will please you more that only one third of German citizens believe Ursula von der Leyen would make a good Commission president. She's a politician in the right wing CDU party but i expect you'd have preferred the installment of an unelected jackbooted AfD politician.

https://www.politico.eu/article/most-germans-skeptical-of-ursula-von-der-leyen-poll/


Is the HOL choosing our next Prime Minister?..........Nope .........

He's being chosen democratically by "US" Tory members ..........

You'll also get a opportunity to have your say when Boris calls an election, so that we can evict those MP's who LIED to get elected ..............

Seems to me our system is proving to be a damn site more democratic than the EU's ........

Which is prolly why you LOSERS don't like it ..........

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Posted: 5 July 2019 6:57 PM
Subject: RE: First impressions of the EU gravy train............
 


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pelmetman - 2019-07-05 6:42 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-07-05 4:32 PM

pelmetman - 2019-07-05 8:47 AM

So yet again we have a perfect example of how undemocratic the EU is ...........

Merkel & Macron do a backroom deal to put a German in charge of the Fourth Reich .......

But hey!...... the "Elected" EU parliament will get the opportunity to use their rubber stamp again .......

No more undemocratic as our own HOL.....and there's 800 of them which you never complain about. Can't think why.

However on this particular matter not only has the EP condemned it, but spoken out on it.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/european-commission-president-ursula-von-der-leyen-juncker-eu-parliament-a8987841.html

And it will please you more that only one third of German citizens believe Ursula von der Leyen would make a good Commission president. She's a politician in the right wing CDU party but i expect you'd have preferred the installment of an unelected jackbooted AfD politician.

https://www.politico.eu/article/most-germans-skeptical-of-ursula-von-der-leyen-poll/


Is the HOL choosing our next Prime Minister?..........Nope .........

Neither is the EP.

He's being chosen democratically by "US" Tory members ..........

Just 0.25% of the electorate so not very democratic.

You'll also get a opportunity to have your say when Boris calls an election, so that we can evict those MP's who LIED to get elected ..............

That's Boris gone then before he's even got the job!

Seems to me our system is proving to be a damn site more democratic than the EU's ........

Which is prolly why you LOSERS don't like it ..........

You'll be crying and moaning when you see what seats you end up with for your Brexit Party loons. In fact i heard they've had a stool brought in. A cage would be more suitable.

No comment on those links i posted. Not surprised....it throws your narrative out of kilter.
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Posted: 5 July 2019 7:01 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-07-05 6:57 PM

That's Boris gone then before he's even got the job!



He cant call an election until he's got the job ..........Do try and keep up ........

No better time for it with Corbyn's Cretins on 18% ............

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