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userBulletguy
Posted: 6 June 2019 6:34 PM
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Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020
userBirdbrain
Posted: 6 June 2019 6:53 PM
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Who would have guessed the usual suspect with the usual guff ... Around 2000 pubs have shut since the Brexit vote so maybe we can blame Brexit for that ... Churches shut their doors at an alarming rate so maybe we can blame Brexit for that ... A local DIY shop shut recently and I blame Brexit ... Lordy dont they ever get tired
usercandapack
Posted: 6 June 2019 7:26 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 6:34 PM


Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020


You were wrong. Bannedthony 1969 got in first.
userBirdbrain
Posted: 6 June 2019 7:47 PM
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candapack - 2019-06-06 7:26 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 6:34 PM


Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020


You were wrong. Bannedthony 1969 got in first.


Hes normally wrong so whats new sweetheart
userBulletguy
Posted: 6 June 2019 8:00 PM
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candapack - 2019-06-06 7:26 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 6:34 PM


Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020


You were wrong. Bannedthony 1969 got in first.

Yes it always one of the two usual tag team suspects.
userpelmetman
Posted: 6 June 2019 9:29 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 6:34 PM


Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020


So Ford are shedding 7000 jobs worldwide because of Brexit? .........

"Ford has confirmed it will cut 7,000 employees worldwide by the end of August to make an annual saving of £470 million
Ford will cut 10 per cent of its global salaried workforce by the end of August 2019 as it looks to save $600 million (roughly £470 million) a year. These cuts are part of an “organisational redesign process” that will see approximately 7,000 Ford employees around the world lose their jobs."

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/101529/ford-to-cut-10-per-cent-of-its-global-workforce

Nope.......Its just more Bulletsh*t ...........

Why didn't you highlight this story? ........

"Wren Kitchens to create 1,200 new jobs"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-48533470

Because you're a bitter old Loser .........



Edited by pelmetman 2019-06-06 9:37 PM
userBulletguy
Posted: 6 June 2019 10:05 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-06 9:29 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 6:34 PM


Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020


These cuts are part of an “organisational redesign process”....

Which is jargon for "due to the uncertainty of Brexit we need to move where can continue production....we need seamless JIT and fta's etc". Guess what.....they shipped out to Mexico which already has excellent trade deals in place with the EU with tariff free exemption on engines up to 1.8ltr and are currently negotiating even better deals with them.

We could have had those deals......but you lot slammed the door so another Brexit success for slinging more folk out of work.

I notice you edited this bit out of your cut 'n paste job too; Ford could cut up to 550 jobs in the UK as part of a massive restructuring of its European operations.

Well that was well out by 1150 as it's 1,700 gone. That's 1,700 jobless with mortgages or rent to pay, so many will no doubt end up on the streets thanks to your selfish insanity.
userBarryd999
Posted: 6 June 2019 10:33 PM
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The facts are the automotive industry is currently in decline, Ford have not cited Brexit as a reason for this closure but of course it is going to have an impact. Its having an impact across all our industry. When things get tough though cutting one of your limbs off in the fight for survivial is never a good idea and that is what Brexit is like for manufacturing and automotive. In difficult times we just made everything a load harder for ourselves. If Brexit leads to further austerity and the economy tanks I really pity those that end up on the scrap heap. They are really going to struggle.
userBulletguy
Posted: 6 June 2019 11:15 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-06-06 10:33 PM

The facts are the automotive industry is currently in decline, Ford have not cited Brexit as a reason for this closure but of course it is going to have an impact. Its having an impact across all our industry. When things get tough though cutting one of your limbs off in the fight for survivial is never a good idea and that is what Brexit is like for manufacturing and automotive. In difficult times we just made everything a load harder for ourselves. If Brexit leads to further austerity and the economy tanks I really pity those that end up on the scrap heap. They are really going to struggle.

No company is ever going to say, "we are shutting our factory down because of the way you lot voted......but please keep buying our products". So let's not mince words here, Brexit was certainly a contributing factor as it has been with all closures, job losses and/or relocation out of this crazy country. But no Brexiter will ever accept an iota of responsibility and hold their hand up.

Typically Bridgend in the referendum is yet another example of turkeys voting for Christmas with 54.6% to Leave which begs the question, just how many of those who voted Leave worked at Ford? Who the hell in their right mind votes themselves out of a job? You just can't fix stupid.....not even with unicorns.

The only people i sympathise with is those sensible enough to see through all the crap and silly soundbites being pumped out by the Leave lot and once that stupid bus was wheeled out with a big fat lie plastered all over it, that should have been enough alone to tell any fence sitting ditherers of the duplicitous shenanigans which could only lead the country to where it is now......to hell in a handbasket.

https://www.channel4.com/news/1700-jobs-cut-in-wales-as-ford-factory-closure-confirmed

Edited by Bulletguy 2019-06-06 11:33 PM
userpelmetman
Posted: 7 June 2019 7:51 AM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 10:05 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-06 9:29 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 6:34 PM


Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020


These cuts are part of an “organisational redesign process”....

Which is jargon for "due to the uncertainty of Brexit we need to move where can continue production....we need seamless JIT and fta's etc". Guess what.....they shipped out to Mexico which already has excellent trade deals in place with the EU with tariff free exemption on engines up to 1.8ltr and are currently negotiating even better deals with them.

We could have had those deals......but you lot slammed the door so another Brexit success for slinging more folk out of work.

I notice you edited this bit out of your cut 'n paste job too; Ford could cut up to 550 jobs in the UK as part of a massive restructuring of its European operations.

Well that was well out by 1150 as it's 1,700 gone. That's 1,700 jobless with mortgages or rent to pay, so many will no doubt end up on the streets thanks to your selfish insanity.


So the 3000 jobs Ford are cutting in Germany are because of Brexit? ............

userBarryd999
Posted: 7 June 2019 11:34 AM
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userpelmetman
Posted: 7 June 2019 11:42 AM
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HSBC
Panasonic
Toshiba
EasyJet
Hitachi
P&O
Sony
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Unilever
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Dyson
JP Morgan
Flybmi
EMA
MoneyGram
BMW
Vauxhall
Nissan
Toyota
Bombardier
Body Shop
Dudson
Burberry

Have closed / preparing to withdraw from UK


If you think its bad now ..........

You better hope Commie Corbyn doesn't gets in ........

So there's your choice.........No Deal......Or.......Commie Corbyn? ........

userBarryd999
Posted: 7 June 2019 12:35 PM
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Airbus
HSBC
Panasonic
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EasyJet
Hitachi
P&O
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Toyota
Bombardier
Body Shop
Dudson
Burberry

Have closed / preparing to withdraw from UK


If you think its bad now ..........

You better hope Commie Corbyn doesn't gets in ........

So there's your choice.........No Deal......Or.......Commie Corbyn? ........



If "Commie" Corbyn gets in and there is no Brexit or a BRINO then its nobody's fault but you Brexiteers. You all laughed at me when I said there could be a Corbyn government before Brexit is delivered. You might not be laughing if they have to call an election when the new PM has no majority and cannot command the house.
userBulletguy
Posted: 7 June 2019 2:30 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-07 7:51 AM

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pelmetman - 2019-06-06 9:29 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 6:34 PM


Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020


These cuts are part of an “organisational redesign process”....

Which is jargon for "due to the uncertainty of Brexit we need to move where can continue production....we need seamless JIT and fta's etc". Guess what.....they shipped out to Mexico which already has excellent trade deals in place with the EU with tariff free exemption on engines up to 1.8ltr and are currently negotiating even better deals with them.

We could have had those deals......but you lot slammed the door so another Brexit success for slinging more folk out of work.

I notice you edited this bit out of your cut 'n paste job too; Ford could cut up to 550 jobs in the UK as part of a massive restructuring of its European operations.

Well that was well out by 1150 as it's 1,700 gone. That's 1,700 jobless with mortgages or rent to pay, so many will no doubt end up on the streets thanks to your selfish insanity.


So the 3000 jobs Ford are cutting in Germany are because of Brexit? ............

A foolish comparison to use (though not unsurprising given your insane 'Germanophobia').

Where Ford GmbH have a massive commercial interest with almost 30,000 employees, production facilities turning out almost 2,000 vehicles a day seven days a week, Ford UK employ just 13,000 over three sites, now to become two and possibly zero, making engines and gearboxes.

Instead of obsessing over other countries, in particular one which you know absolutely nothing about, you need to start addressing the huge amount of damage Brexit has done to the UK post referendum and it's about time you began coming up with answers instead of petty whataboutery and lame excuses every time.
userBulletguy
Posted: 7 June 2019 2:42 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-07 11:42 AM

Barryd999 - 2019-06-07 11:34 AM

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Ford
Honda
Jaguar
Airbus
HSBC
Panasonic
Toshiba
EasyJet
Hitachi
P&O
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Lloyds
Barclays
AXA
UBS
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Unilever
Schaeffler
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JP Morgan
Flybmi
EMA
MoneyGram
BMW
Vauxhall
Nissan
Toyota
Bombardier
Body Shop
Dudson
Burberry

Have closed / preparing to withdraw from UK


If you think its bad now ..........

You better hope Commie Corbyn doesn't gets in ........

So there's your choice.........No Deal......Or.......Commie Corbyn? ........

You paid £25 quid to be a 'supporter' (no membership allowed for some reason) of a one trick party without manifesto with Communist supporters, and quite why you're so anti-JC is laughable as everyone knows he's long been a Brexiteer which is one reason many voted LD in the EU election.
userpelmetman
Posted: 7 June 2019 2:51 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 10:05 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-06 9:29 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 6:34 PM


Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020


These cuts are part of an “organisational redesign process”....

Which is jargon for "due to the uncertainty of Brexit we need to move where can continue production....we need seamless JIT and fta's etc". Guess what.....they shipped out to Mexico which already has excellent trade deals in place with the EU with tariff free exemption on engines up to 1.8ltr and are currently negotiating even better deals with them.

We could have had those deals......but you lot slammed the door so another Brexit success for slinging more folk out of work.

I notice you edited this bit out of your cut 'n paste job too; Ford could cut up to 550 jobs in the UK as part of a massive restructuring of its European operations.

Well that was well out by 1150 as it's 1,700 gone. That's 1,700 jobless with mortgages or rent to pay, so many will no doubt end up on the streets thanks to your selfish insanity.


So the 3000 jobs Ford are cutting in Germany are because of Brexit? ............

A foolish comparison to use (though not unsurprising given your insane 'Germanophobia').

Where Ford GmbH have a massive commercial interest with almost 30,000 employees, production facilities turning out almost 2,000 vehicles a day seven days a week, Ford UK employ just 13,000 over three sites, now to become two and possibly zero, making engines and gearboxes.

Instead of obsessing over other countries, in particular one which you know absolutely nothing about, you need to start addressing the huge amount of damage Brexit has done to the UK post referendum and it's about time you began coming up with answers instead of petty whataboutery and lame excuses every time.


Silly me .........I forgot I was dealing with a labored idiot with a Diane Abbotcus ........

So 1700 is more than 3000? ........and are they blaming it on Brexit? ........

Just askin? .......

userpelmetman
Posted: 7 June 2019 2:55 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 2:42 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 11:42 AM

Barryd999 - 2019-06-07 11:34 AM

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Ford
Honda
Jaguar
Airbus
HSBC
Panasonic
Toshiba
EasyJet
Hitachi
P&O
Sony
Lloyds
Barclays
AXA
UBS
EBA
Unilever
Schaeffler
Dyson
JP Morgan
Flybmi
EMA
MoneyGram
BMW
Vauxhall
Nissan
Toyota
Bombardier
Body Shop
Dudson
Burberry

Have closed / preparing to withdraw from UK


If you think its bad now ..........

You better hope Commie Corbyn doesn't gets in ........

So there's your choice.........No Deal......Or.......Commie Corbyn? ........

You paid £25 quid to be a 'supporter' (no membership allowed for some reason) of a one trick party without manifesto with Communist supporters, and quite why you're so anti-JC is laughable as everyone knows he's long been a Brexiteer which is one reason many voted LD in the EU election.


I paid a contribution to a party that seeks to achieve Brexit .......

I'd call that an investment in the future democracy of the UK ........

I'm prepared to splash more cash ........

Btw .....she's a former Communist ..........

Everyone's entitled to become wiser with age.......so it's not too late Dumb Dumb ......
























































Who was I kidding? ............Yeah it is .........



Edited by pelmetman 2019-06-07 3:00 PM
userBulletguy
Posted: 7 June 2019 3:24 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-07 7:51 AM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 10:05 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-06 9:29 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 6:34 PM


Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020


These cuts are part of an “organisational redesign process”....

Which is jargon for "due to the uncertainty of Brexit we need to move where can continue production....we need seamless JIT and fta's etc". Guess what.....they shipped out to Mexico which already has excellent trade deals in place with the EU with tariff free exemption on engines up to 1.8ltr and are currently negotiating even better deals with them.

We could have had those deals......but you lot slammed the door so another Brexit success for slinging more folk out of work.

I notice you edited this bit out of your cut 'n paste job too; Ford could cut up to 550 jobs in the UK as part of a massive restructuring of its European operations.

Well that was well out by 1150 as it's 1,700 gone. That's 1,700 jobless with mortgages or rent to pay, so many will no doubt end up on the streets thanks to your selfish insanity.


So the 3000 jobs Ford are cutting in Germany are because of Brexit? ............

A foolish comparison to use (though not unsurprising given your insane 'Germanophobia').

Where Ford GmbH have a massive commercial interest with almost 30,000 employees, production facilities turning out almost 2,000 vehicles a day seven days a week, Ford UK employ just 13,000 over three sites, now to become two and possibly zero, making engines and gearboxes.

Instead of obsessing over other countries, in particular one which you know absolutely nothing about, you need to start addressing the huge amount of damage Brexit has done to the UK post referendum and it's about time you began coming up with answers instead of petty whataboutery and lame excuses every time.


Silly me .........I forgot I was dealing with a labored idiot with a Diane Abbotcus ........

So 1700 is more than 3000? ........and are they blaming it on Brexit? ........

Just askin? .......

I knew you'd find that post too complicated but i really shouldn't need to be potty training a deranged adult. Fyi with Bridgend gone there will be a total loss of 9,000 employees from the UK automotive industry since Brexit and that figure will certainly increase as Ford only have two other plants.
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Posted: 7 June 2019 3:59 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 6:34 PM


Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020


These cuts are part of an “organisational redesign process”....

Which is jargon for "due to the uncertainty of Brexit we need to move where can continue production....we need seamless JIT and fta's etc". Guess what.....they shipped out to Mexico which already has excellent trade deals in place with the EU with tariff free exemption on engines up to 1.8ltr and are currently negotiating even better deals with them.

We could have had those deals......but you lot slammed the door so another Brexit success for slinging more folk out of work.

I notice you edited this bit out of your cut 'n paste job too; Ford could cut up to 550 jobs in the UK as part of a massive restructuring of its European operations.

Well that was well out by 1150 as it's 1,700 gone. That's 1,700 jobless with mortgages or rent to pay, so many will no doubt end up on the streets thanks to your selfish insanity.


So the 3000 jobs Ford are cutting in Germany are because of Brexit? ............

A foolish comparison to use (though not unsurprising given your insane 'Germanophobia').

Where Ford GmbH have a massive commercial interest with almost 30,000 employees, production facilities turning out almost 2,000 vehicles a day seven days a week, Ford UK employ just 13,000 over three sites, now to become two and possibly zero, making engines and gearboxes.

Instead of obsessing over other countries, in particular one which you know absolutely nothing about, you need to start addressing the huge amount of damage Brexit has done to the UK post referendum and it's about time you began coming up with answers instead of petty whataboutery and lame excuses every time.


Silly me .........I forgot I was dealing with a labored idiot with a Diane Abbotcus ........

So 1700 is more than 3000? ........and are they blaming it on Brexit? ........

Just askin? .......

I knew you'd find that post too complicated but i really shouldn't need to be potty training a deranged adult. Fyi with Bridgend gone there will be a total loss of 9,000 employees from the UK automotive industry since Brexit and that figure will certainly increase as Ford only have two other plants.


You really are a deluded old Communist fool aren't you Bullet ...........

Sh*t spreading by Global companies ahead of a recession is nothing new .........

Brexit is just a useful tool to blame the Global recessionary cycle on .......

But then you being a brain dead trade unionist wouldn't be able to see very far ahead anyway ..........



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Posted: 7 June 2019 5:43 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-07 3:59 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 3:24 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 2:51 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 2:30 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 7:51 AM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 10:05 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-06 9:29 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 6:34 PM


Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020


These cuts are part of an “organisational redesign process”....

Which is jargon for "due to the uncertainty of Brexit we need to move where can continue production....we need seamless JIT and fta's etc". Guess what.....they shipped out to Mexico which already has excellent trade deals in place with the EU with tariff free exemption on engines up to 1.8ltr and are currently negotiating even better deals with them.

We could have had those deals......but you lot slammed the door so another Brexit success for slinging more folk out of work.

I notice you edited this bit out of your cut 'n paste job too; Ford could cut up to 550 jobs in the UK as part of a massive restructuring of its European operations.

Well that was well out by 1150 as it's 1,700 gone. That's 1,700 jobless with mortgages or rent to pay, so many will no doubt end up on the streets thanks to your selfish insanity.


So the 3000 jobs Ford are cutting in Germany are because of Brexit? ............

A foolish comparison to use (though not unsurprising given your insane 'Germanophobia').

Where Ford GmbH have a massive commercial interest with almost 30,000 employees, production facilities turning out almost 2,000 vehicles a day seven days a week, Ford UK employ just 13,000 over three sites, now to become two and possibly zero, making engines and gearboxes.

Instead of obsessing over other countries, in particular one which you know absolutely nothing about, you need to start addressing the huge amount of damage Brexit has done to the UK post referendum and it's about time you began coming up with answers instead of petty whataboutery and lame excuses every time.


Silly me .........I forgot I was dealing with a labored idiot with a Diane Abbotcus ........

So 1700 is more than 3000? ........and are they blaming it on Brexit? ........

Just askin? .......

I knew you'd find that post too complicated but i really shouldn't need to be potty training a deranged adult. Fyi with Bridgend gone there will be a total loss of 9,000 employees from the UK automotive industry since Brexit and that figure will certainly increase as Ford only have two other plants.


You...

It's pointless engaging with you until you can start engaging what bit is left of that solitary brain cell you might have. You've done nothing but post utter tripe which even makes Twitter look almost intelligent. Go back to licking your wounds over that silly one trick party you're in mourning over.
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Posted: 7 June 2019 5:52 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 3:24 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 2:51 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 2:30 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 7:51 AM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 10:05 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-06 9:29 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-06 6:34 PM


Ford at Bridgend, South Wales is to shut down it's entire plant with the loss of 1,700 employees plus more in the supply chain. The destruction of the UK car industry is now almost complete and South Wales will become a 'ghost state'.
Of course, 'nothing to do with Brexit'....it never is.
Helmethead will be along soon waffling his usual bull about 'global downturn'.

Funny but entire businesses in UK are either shutting down, or fleeing the country to where they can continue production/business with JIT and FTA's.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jun/06/ford-to-close-bridgend-factory-in-september-2020


These cuts are part of an “organisational redesign process”....

Which is jargon for "due to the uncertainty of Brexit we need to move where can continue production....we need seamless JIT and fta's etc". Guess what.....they shipped out to Mexico which already has excellent trade deals in place with the EU with tariff free exemption on engines up to 1.8ltr and are currently negotiating even better deals with them.

We could have had those deals......but you lot slammed the door so another Brexit success for slinging more folk out of work.

I notice you edited this bit out of your cut 'n paste job too; Ford could cut up to 550 jobs in the UK as part of a massive restructuring of its European operations.

Well that was well out by 1150 as it's 1,700 gone. That's 1,700 jobless with mortgages or rent to pay, so many will no doubt end up on the streets thanks to your selfish insanity.


So the 3000 jobs Ford are cutting in Germany are because of Brexit? ............

A foolish comparison to use (though not unsurprising given your insane 'Germanophobia').

Where Ford GmbH have a massive commercial interest with almost 30,000 employees, production facilities turning out almost 2,000 vehicles a day seven days a week, Ford UK employ just 13,000 over three sites, now to become two and possibly zero, making engines and gearboxes.

Instead of obsessing over other countries, in particular one which you know absolutely nothing about, you need to start addressing the huge amount of damage Brexit has done to the UK post referendum and it's about time you began coming up with answers instead of petty whataboutery and lame excuses every time.


Silly me .........I forgot I was dealing with a labored idiot with a Diane Abbotcus ........

So 1700 is more than 3000? ........and are they blaming it on Brexit? ........

Just askin? .......

I knew you'd find that post too complicated but i really shouldn't need to be potty training a deranged adult. Fyi with Bridgend gone there will be a total loss of 9,000 employees from the UK automotive industry since Brexit and that figure will certainly increase as Ford only have two other plants.


You...

It's pointless engaging with you until you can start engaging what bit is left of that solitary brain cell you might have. You've done nothing but post utter tripe which even makes Twitter look almost intelligent. Go back to licking your wounds over that silly one trick party you're in mourning over.


You....... forgot this bit .......

"You really are a deluded old Communist fool aren't you Bullet ...........

Sh*t spreading by Global companies ahead of a recession is nothing new .........

Brexit is just a useful tool to blame the Global recessionary cycle on .......

But then you being a brain dead trade unionist wouldn't be able to see very far ahead anyway"

BTW......How far up the trade unionist bum pipe did you get? ........

I/C of Comrade Tea making? ......





Edited by pelmetman 2019-06-07 5:54 PM
userBulletguy
Posted: 7 June 2019 6:09 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-07 5:52 PM

You....... forgot this bit .......

No i read the utter garbage and tripe you've posted on this thread in your pathetic attempts to justify the destruction of UK industries and thousands of job losses Brexit has inflicted, You're disgusting.
userpelmetman
Posted: 7 June 2019 6:32 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 6:09 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 5:52 PM

You....... forgot this bit .......

No i read the utter garbage and tripe you've posted on this thread in your pathetic attempts to justify the destruction of UK industries and thousands of job losses Brexit has inflicted, You're disgusting.


C'mon bruver I used to be in the union when I drove buses .......

I know how it works ........

So did you get above Tea maker/union rep? ........



Edited by pelmetman 2019-06-07 6:33 PM
userBulletguy
Posted: 7 June 2019 8:23 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-07 6:32 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 6:09 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 5:52 PM

You....... forgot this bit .......

No i read the utter garbage and tripe you've posted on this thread in your pathetic attempts to justify the destruction of UK industries and thousands of job losses Brexit has inflicted, You're disgusting.


C'mon bruver I used to be in the union when I drove buses .......

You just keep on digging yourself deeper into a hole with such inane comments. Brexit has trashed the country, thrown thousands of people out of work, closed businesses down apart from those fortunate enough to be able to relocate, yet you seem positively proud of this 'achievement' instead of feeling utter shame.

You dress up your opinions in declarations of faux patriotism and democracy while your words and actions show that you either don't know the meanings of those words or that you simply don't care about your hypocrisy. You're beneath contempt.
userpelmetman
Posted: 7 June 2019 8:27 PM
Subject: RE: Ford engine plant to CLOSE
 


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Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 8:23 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 6:32 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 6:09 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 5:52 PM

You....... forgot this bit .......

No i read the utter garbage and tripe you've posted on this thread in your pathetic attempts to justify the destruction of UK industries and thousands of job losses Brexit has inflicted, You're disgusting.


C'mon bruver I used to be in the union when I drove buses .......

You just keep on digging yourself deeper into a hole with such inane comments. Brexit has trashed the country, thrown thousands of people out of work, closed businesses down apart from those fortunate enough to be able to relocate, yet you seem positively proud of this 'achievement' instead of feeling utter shame.

You dress up your opinions in declarations of faux patriotism and democracy while your words and actions show that you either don't know the meanings of those words or that you simply don't care about your hypocrisy. You're beneath contempt.


That's rich coming from an idiot who wants Corbyn to crash the economy ..........

userBulletguy
Posted: 7 June 2019 9:00 PM
Subject: RE: Ford engine plant to CLOSE
 


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pelmetman - 2019-06-07 8:27 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 8:23 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 6:32 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 6:09 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 5:52 PM

You....... forgot this bit .......

No i read the utter garbage and tripe you've posted on this thread in your pathetic attempts to justify the destruction of UK industries and thousands of job losses Brexit has inflicted, You're disgusting.


C'mon bruver I used to be in the union when I drove buses .......

You just keep on digging yourself deeper into a hole with such inane comments. Brexit has trashed the country, thrown thousands of people out of work, closed businesses down apart from those fortunate enough to be able to relocate, yet you seem positively proud of this 'achievement' instead of feeling utter shame.

You dress up your opinions in declarations of faux patriotism and democracy while your words and actions show that you either don't know the meanings of those words or that you simply don't care about your hypocrisy. You're beneath contempt.


That's rich coming from an idiot who wants Corbyn to crash the economy ..........

We've seen what 10 years of Toryism has done along with three and half years of rampant Brexit nonsense splitting the entire country apart, putting thousands of people out of work and closing businesses down......but we have not seen what Corbyn would or even could do.

You're stuck aren't you? Backed yourself into a corner with no way out other than to keep slinging out inane comments because you know the damage you've done in putting thousands of people out of work but not man enough to account for your actions.

When Swindon went down the pan i challenged you to go and spend a day in the town centre telling them about the Brexit unicorns you voted for and how grateful they should be to people like you for putting them out of a job.....you can do the same at Bridgend.

Go at your peril as you'd likely come out in a body bag.
userpelmetman
Posted: 7 June 2019 9:16 PM
Subject: RE: Ford engine plant to CLOSE
 


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Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 9:00 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 8:27 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 8:23 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 6:32 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 6:09 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 5:52 PM

You....... forgot this bit .......

No i read the utter garbage and tripe you've posted on this thread in your pathetic attempts to justify the destruction of UK industries and thousands of job losses Brexit has inflicted, You're disgusting.


C'mon bruver I used to be in the union when I drove buses .......

You just keep on digging yourself deeper into a hole with such inane comments. Brexit has trashed the country, thrown thousands of people out of work, closed businesses down apart from those fortunate enough to be able to relocate, yet you seem positively proud of this 'achievement' instead of feeling utter shame.

You dress up your opinions in declarations of faux patriotism and democracy while your words and actions show that you either don't know the meanings of those words or that you simply don't care about your hypocrisy. You're beneath contempt.


That's rich coming from an idiot who wants Corbyn to crash the economy ..........

We've seen what 10 years of Toryism has done along with three and half years of rampant Brexit nonsense splitting the entire country apart, putting thousands of people out of work and closing businesses down......but we have not seen what Corbyn would or even could do.

You're stuck aren't you? Backed yourself into a corner with no way out other than to keep slinging out inane comments because you know the damage you've done in putting thousands of people out of work but not man enough to account for your actions.

When Swindon went down the pan i challenged you to go and spend a day in the town centre telling them about the Brexit unicorns you voted for and how grateful they should be to people like you for putting them out of a job.....you can do the same at Bridgend.

Go at your peril as you'd likely come out in a body bag.


How does the Tories putting 1000's of people out of work = the best employment figure since the 70's?????? ........

You need to lay off the Bull sh*t Bullet ..........

Your starting to believe your own codswallop .........

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Posted: 7 June 2019 9:43 PM
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You should watch "Years and Years" drama Dave. Unemployment maybe low (Well lets face it you work for an hour and your employed according to the government). Most of these thousands of workers had skilled roles, probably some really top jobs. They may find work but inevitably when this kind of thing happens you could go from managing a team of twenty people to stacking shelves or doing slave labour on zero hour contracts for Amazon or some such dreadful place.

All looks good on paper but the fact is all this is just making the way of life in the UK downright miserable and intolerable for many. Thats the price of your Brexit. You can sit in the sunshine drinking and being an illegal immigrant safe in the knowledge that you helped orchestrate misery for millions of people back home. Good job.
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Posted: 7 June 2019 9:49 PM
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pelmetman - 2019-06-07 9:16 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 9:00 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 8:27 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 8:23 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 6:32 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 6:09 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 5:52 PM

You....... forgot this bit .......

No i read the utter garbage and tripe you've posted on this thread in your pathetic attempts to justify the destruction of UK industries and thousands of job losses Brexit has inflicted, You're disgusting.


C'mon bruver I used to be in the union when I drove buses .......

You just keep on digging yourself deeper into a hole with such inane comments. Brexit has trashed the country, thrown thousands of people out of work, closed businesses down apart from those fortunate enough to be able to relocate, yet you seem positively proud of this 'achievement' instead of feeling utter shame.

You dress up your opinions in declarations of faux patriotism and democracy while your words and actions show that you either don't know the meanings of those words or that you simply don't care about your hypocrisy. You're beneath contempt.


That's rich coming from an idiot who wants Corbyn to crash the economy ..........

We've seen what 10 years of Toryism has done along with three and half years of rampant Brexit nonsense splitting the entire country apart, putting thousands of people out of work and closing businesses down......but we have not seen what Corbyn would or even could do.

You're stuck aren't you? Backed yourself into a corner with no way out other than to keep slinging out inane comments because you know the damage you've done in putting thousands of people out of work but not man enough to account for your actions.

When Swindon went down the pan i challenged you to go and spend a day in the town centre telling them about the Brexit unicorns you voted for and how grateful they should be to people like you for putting them out of a job.....you can do the same at Bridgend.

Go at your peril as you'd likely come out in a body bag.


How does the Tories putting 1000's of people out of work = the best employment figure since the 70's?????? ........

I've never counted one hour a week as 'employed' in the same way as i don't with zero hour contracts. But i'm not letting you wriggle and squirm your way out that easy. In particular i'm referring to the huge catastrophic damage caused by Brexit which has seen thousands of people put out of work.

So when do you plan to visit Swindon and Bridgend to tell all the locals how grateful they should be to people like you for putting them out of a job....or are you too afraid?
userpelmetman
Posted: 8 June 2019 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: Ford engine plant to CLOSE
 


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Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 9:49 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 9:16 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 9:00 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 8:27 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 8:23 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 6:32 PM

Bulletguy - 2019-06-07 6:09 PM

pelmetman - 2019-06-07 5:52 PM

You....... forgot this bit .......

No i read the utter garbage and tripe you've posted on this thread in your pathetic attempts to justify the destruction of UK industries and thousands of job losses Brexit has inflicted, You're disgusting.


C'mon bruver I used to be in the union when I drove buses .......

You just keep on digging yourself deeper into a hole with such inane comments. Brexit has trashed the country, thrown thousands of people out of work, closed businesses down apart from those fortunate enough to be able to relocate, yet you seem positively proud of this 'achievement' instead of feeling utter shame.

You dress up your opinions in declarations of faux patriotism and democracy while your words and actions show that you either don't know the meanings of those words or that you simply don't care about your hypocrisy. You're beneath contempt.


That's rich coming from an idiot who wants Corbyn to crash the economy ..........

We've seen what 10 years of Toryism has done along with three and half years of rampant Brexit nonsense splitting the entire country apart, putting thousands of people out of work and closing businesses down......but we have not seen what Corbyn would or even could do.

You're stuck aren't you? Backed yourself into a corner with no way out other than to keep slinging out inane comments because you know the damage you've done in putting thousands of people out of work but not man enough to account for your actions.

When Swindon went down the pan i challenged you to go and spend a day in the town centre telling them about the Brexit unicorns you voted for and how grateful they should be to people like you for putting them out of a job.....you can do the same at Bridgend.

Go at your peril as you'd likely come out in a body bag.


How does the Tories putting 1000's of people out of work = the best employment figure since the 70's?????? ........

I've never counted one hour a week as 'employed' in the same way as i don't with zero hour contracts. But i'm not letting you wriggle and squirm your way out that easy. In particular i'm referring to the huge catastrophic damage caused by Brexit which has seen thousands of people put out of work.

So when do you plan to visit Swindon and Bridgend to tell all the locals how grateful they should be to people like you for putting them out of a job....or are you too afraid?


"The Government has rightly banned the use of exclusivity in zero-hour contracts and, according to the ONS, less than three per cent of workers in our economy are on zero-hours based roles."

“In fact the number of zero-hours jobs has fallen over the past year.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1117319/brexit-news-uk-jobs-eu-workers-eu-referendum-british-employment-figures

You need to take your head out of your butt occasionally .........
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