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usermichele
Posted: 25 July 2007 1:37 PM
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usercaraprof
Posted: 25 July 2007 2:05 PM
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Ignore him Michele. Instead of his usual sarcasm he is clearly a bit rattled and has probably realised that his stupid interventions and posts designed to trick people in thinking that they are genuine, has become tiresome.

I noticed that his latest silly post about about mounting bikes on the side attracted no response whatsoever. (Except of course from his alter ego.)



Edited by caraprof 2007-07-25 2:12 PM
usermichele
Posted: 25 July 2007 2:26 PM
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So it's back to the thread i shall ignore him thankyou.
Actually ignore what
userCliveH
Posted: 25 July 2007 3:34 PM
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Having been on holiday - how refreshing to see the same old faces creating a wind up.

Threads going off topic? - so what! Ever had a conversation in a pub that has to stick to the subject you first started talking about?

I suppose if someone digresses from the subject on a technical thread it might be irksome to some but do we really need the Moddies to have to waste their time policing the whole ruddy forum?

Apart from which I hardly see this Forum as heavy on technical issues!

On the odd occasion that I have posted something on here that somebody else has already on another thread (usually something funny!) you just get a post or PM to inform you. I’ve said "Sorry - missed that!" and no harm done.

May I suggest that those that want a more policed Forum do it themselves via the PM system?

That way those in receipt of such PM's can do what they want with them i.e. take the message on board or bin it and carry on with what they want from the Forum not what anyone else thinks they should be doing.


usercaraprof
Posted: 25 July 2007 4:17 PM
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This thread was back on track until TC101 popped in with a totally fatuous remark about taxing his car! It was debated vigorously as you would expect but I don't recall any real aggro apart from Peter having a little pop at me, which was soon sorted.

Edited by caraprof 2007-07-25 4:19 PM
usermichele
Posted: 25 July 2007 4:33 PM
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Clive,
have to agree with Frank this thread was fine no agro what so ever .
It was me who done the silly mistake and answered TC ..
userPhilman
Posted: 25 July 2007 4:44 PM
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If there is already some sort of mod on this forum why hasn't he or she commented on Michelle's suggestion. It may be a figment of someones imagination.
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userDave Newell
Posted: 25 July 2007 5:22 PM
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In general there isn't a problem with threads drifting away from the original topic as long as any questions posed by the topic starter get answered and the diversion follows some sort of logical path, like it has in the jack handle thread in Motorhome Matters. The problems only arise with going "off topic" when it is a diversion into totally unrelated subject matter, TC's posting on here about taxing his car is actually an excellent example of this.

I think the fact that no moderator or administrator has commented on this thread speaks volumes!

D.
userpeter
Posted: 25 July 2007 10:17 PM
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Frank put his teeth in and mumbled
caraprof - 2007-07-25 4:17 PM

This thread was back on track until TC101 popped in with a totally fatuous remark about taxing his car! It was debated vigorously as you would expect but I don't recall any real aggro apart from Peter having a little pop at me, which was soon sorted.
"Having a pop"really? I only replied to your posts critisising those that didn't think moderation was required. Especially as you are frquently one of the principal protagonists in any fracas. "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone" springs to mind.
usercaraprof
Posted: 25 July 2007 10:35 PM
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peter - 2007-07-25 10:17 PM Frank put his teeth in and mumbled
caraprof - 2007-07-25 4:17 PM This thread was back on track until TC101 popped in with a totally fatuous remark about taxing his car! It was debated vigorously as you would expect but I don't recall any real aggro apart from Peter having a little pop at me, which was soon sorted.
"Having a pop"really? I only replied to your posts critisising those that didn't think moderation was required. Especially as you are frquently one of the principal protagonists in any fracas. "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone" springs to mind.

I ask anyone to go back and read the thread and notice who first personalised it by two extremely insulting posts about me! Michele's immediate comment was 'Why don't you go for the jugular Peter?'

My only criticism was not about anyone's opinion on the subject of moderation, you are welcome to your views. My 'criticism' as you call it was that talking about member mods being the 'thought police' was somewhat over the top.

I insulted no one and made no personal comments about you or anyone. You on the other hand were appallingly rude!

So before anyone else goes on about me defending myself, please go back a little and read what Peter said.

I shall always defend myself against comments like his!

userpeter
Posted: 25 July 2007 11:27 PM
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Me-thinks he doth protest too much. Have you taken the vow Frank?. What with all this piousness and protestation of innocence.
usermichele
Posted: 25 July 2007 11:49 PM
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Well people either ain't bovered or don't care .Lots of people have not voted so where does that leave us all where we was I suppose.



usertwooks
Posted: 25 July 2007 11:54 PM
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'chele

on a really important point

have a good jollie


userlaikaman
Posted: 25 July 2007 11:54 PM
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Fairly new here does it need changing then??
usermichele
Posted: 25 July 2007 11:59 PM
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In short I DONT KNOW ANYMORE ! ....BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS ...ops I,m shouting
usercaraprof
Posted: 26 July 2007 7:46 AM
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peter - 2007-07-25 11:27 PM Me-thinks he doth protest too much. Have you taken the vow Frank?. What with all this piousness and protestation of innocence.

I list below a post from Bazza, written after your attack on me. This sums it up. If anyone is protesting too much it's you. You know that your attack was ill-mannered and rude and no squirming now will change that.

On the bottom of page one of this thread, Bazza said:

Have to agree with Frank on this.

The whole discussion has been based on the Moderater ensuring that the threads are in or moved to the correct place.

Peter, I think that you have either misunderstood the thrust of the original discussion or purposely set out to be slightly controversial.

I rest my case.

userDave Newell
Posted: 26 July 2007 9:13 AM
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Judgement in favour of Frank. Peter sit down, shut up and stop being an awkward bugger

D.

Edited by Dave Newell 2007-07-26 9:13 AM
userCliveH
Posted: 26 July 2007 10:35 AM
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I read all this in disbelief!

The www enables superb communication.

This forum is just one example where it is free at the point of use and basically anyone can say anything.

We all freely contribute and freedom of speech applies. But Control Freakery is trying to take over.

The overall subject matter is based upon leisure activities.

And so far we have had a chap who posted about Canals and Narrow boats being told he is not wanted by a control freak

As well as certain individuals who see a personal attack in almost everything they see!

Some people on here beggar belief.

I find myself less and less "in-tune" with the pathetically puerile "He said that" and "He said this" nature of the posts.

How different from the magazine itself. Little wonder then that most posts seem to be from the same clique who just post over and over again.

Which is a shame because other forums have a far healthier far wider contribution base.

I would suggest that the antagonistic nature of some posts are driving people away.


userJ9withdogs
Posted: 26 July 2007 10:42 AM
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CliveH - 2007-07-26 10:35 AM

I would suggest that the antagonistic nature of some posts are driving people away.




I PM'd a newbie last week who had been soundly jumped on by a regular contributer. She apparently never logged on again.
userpeter
Posted: 26 July 2007 11:31 AM
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CliveH - 2007-07-26 10:35 AM


I read all this in disbelief!

The www enables superb communication.

This forum is just one example where it is free at the point of use and basically anyone can say anything.

We all freely contribute and freedom of speech applies. But Control Freakery is trying to take over.

The overall subject matter is based upon leisure activities.

And so far we have had a chap who posted about Canals and Narrow boats being told he is not wanted by a control freak

As well as certain individuals who see a personal attack in almost everything they see!

Some people on here beggar belief.

I find myself less and less "in-tune" with the pathetically puerile "He said that" and "He said this" nature of the posts.

How different from the magazine itself. Little wonder then that most posts seem to be from the same clique who just post over and over again.

Which is a shame because other forums have a far healthier far wider contribution base.

I would suggest that the antagonistic nature of some posts are driving people away.


Well said Cive. That about sums up the way this forum is going. How sad when you can't have a view that differs from the "control freaks" amongst us. God help anyone who asks about A-Frames as they will be imediately reprimanded by the armchair lawyer mafia. It's time that some members who proclaim to have a sense of humour, practiced it instead of seeing every comment as a personal attack.

Edited by peter 2007-07-26 11:32 AM
usermichele
Posted: 26 July 2007 12:07 PM
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Peter & Clive H .
Just asking please why do you both think that anyone wants to be a policeman ? What has given you that idea Pete?.

It was only ever about changing threads to correct places It was never about stopping people having Views & opinions .

More like just keeping chatter in chatter and big boy stuff in M/H matters that sort of thing . It was and is not about banning members or jumping down people throats I don't think anyone ever suggested that either .
People like Brian Kirby whom have been put forward I don't see as a control freak
userCliveH
Posted: 26 July 2007 12:20 PM
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Hi Michelle

The truth is Michelle that some on here DO jump on others as soon as they post - the example from J9withdogs above is exactly what I mean.

The Canal and Narrow boat nonsense was another.

And then as I say we have the "he said this/ he said that" childish nonsense of which there is more than one CLASSIC examples (complete with repeats!!!!!!!)

Maybe it's the rain - but I think some people that habitually post on here need to get out more.
userVictor Meldrew
Posted: 26 July 2007 12:36 PM
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Dave Newell - 2007-07-25 5:22 PM

In general there isn't a problem with threads drifting away from the original topic as long as any questions posed by the topic starter get answered and the diversion follows some sort of logical path, like it has in the jack handle thread in Motorhome Matters. The problems only arise with going "off topic" when it is a diversion into totally unrelated subject matter, TC's posting on here about taxing his car is actually an excellent example of this.

I think the fact that no moderator or administrator has commented on this thread speaks volumes!

D.


Taxed it this morning actually Dave, done it on-line, much easier than going to the post office.

Whilst checking my documents I discovered that my MOT runs out shortly, I’ll let you know when I’ve had the car tested.
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Posted: 26 July 2007 12:37 PM
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Hi 'chele,

you see it that way because that's the way you are, straightforward, some people prefer to see hidden agendas - that's the way they are - I think it's called paranoia

forget it, go away - chill out and have some fun - then come back to the same old same old crazy mixed up site. At the end of the day does it really matter that much if posts get stuck in the wrong slot - after all - if you always use the 'New Threads' option and 'Search' for old stuff you can generally find what you want - or that should be 'one can find what one wants'.
As long as newbies are pointed gently in the right direction -

and now the sun is actually shining - so as Clive says - I'm getting out while I can





userdonna miller
Posted: 26 July 2007 1:02 PM
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IMHO we get along fine in real life without too much interference from moderators, in fact most of us complain like mad about the "big brother " culture of Britain, so why cant we all be adult enough to survive in a virtual community without one.

Is it really that big an issue if someone inadvertantly starts a thread in the wrong section, or goes off topic ( unless it's done just to antaganise people), does anybody talk about other subjects when they meet at a m/home show, of course they do. If it's important enough to be moved, it will be. Life shouldn't be put into little subsections, it should be enjoyed.

I do believe that there are a growing number of people on here who are too immature to be mixing with the majority of fun loving, helpful and humorous members of this community, of course threads go off topic on here, as they do in real life, but I have found that the more important the subject, the less likely it happens. And that it obviously happens more in the general chat section, because thats what it's there for.

So please people, stop taking this forum more seriously than life itself, if you've got an opinion then let us know but dont throw a strop if somebody disagrees with it.

And to those posters who take every word as a personal attack (no names, no pack drill), how the hell do you manage in real life, if I met you at a show or rally, I would avoid conversation with you like the plague, for fear of upsetting you and having to put up with the sort of manner you display on here. A lot of the time it's nothing short of bullying,and keyboard bullies are the worst and most cowardly kind of all.

I might not have 1000s of postings like some people, but I have dozens of friends in the caravan and motorhome world, and I'm ashamed to say that the vast majority of them avoid this site mainly because of the actions of the mindless minority, and who can blame them.



Edited by donna miller 2007-07-26 1:13 PM
userDave Newell
Posted: 26 July 2007 1:20 PM
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So we're now immature mindless control freaks, wow!

Donna Miller's final paragraph sums up exactly why we do need moderators on here.

As for Donna's opening paragraph "IMHO we get along fine in real life without too much interference from moderators, " this is totally fallacious. We do have moderators in real life, we call them the Government and the Police force.

D.
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Posted: 26 July 2007 1:25 PM
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Dave Newell - 2007-07-26 1:20 PM

So we're now immature mindless control freaks, wow!

Donna Miller's final paragraph sums up exactly why we do need moderators on here.

As for Donna's opening paragraph "IMHO we get along fine in real life without too much interference from moderators, " this is totally fallacious. We do have moderators in real life, we call them the Government and the Police force.

D.


Hey, Dave, IMHO that's a tad strong.

Perhaps it's a bloke/gal thing?

and it's still bl**dy raining here

Edited by J9withdogs 2007-07-26 1:27 PM
userMandy&Andy
Posted: 26 July 2007 1:26 PM
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Well said Donna, got to agree with most you said. I am also very nervous of posting on here, so many jump as though they are just waiting for the chance to put you right or condemn. I read the postings about 3 times a day and it goes from someone trying to goad others into a fight, or someone rewriting the entire works of a motorhome in answer to a very simple question (you know those where you loose the will to live half way through).

I will still keep adding to things I feel certain of , but nothing that might be deemed as questionable or my own opinion.

Thanks to all those who make me smile on a daily basis and all the info I have gleamed from this forum.
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userdonna miller
Posted: 26 July 2007 1:36 PM
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Dave Newell - 2007-07-26 1:20 PM

So we're now immature mindless control freaks, wow!

Donna Miller's final paragraph sums up exactly why we do need moderators on here.

As for Donna's opening paragraph "IMHO we get along fine in real life without too much interference from moderators, " this is totally fallacious. We do have moderators in real life, we call them the Government and the Police force.

D.


Dave
This is exactly what I am on about, Who called you an immature mindless control freak, I said there were a mindless minority on these forums, ( read the line "no names etc) however, if you wish to associate yourself with that description, then be my guest, am I not allowed to express MY OPINION without replies like this.

My observation about not needing moderators in real life refered to being able to talk amongst friends and collegues, without being told that I was not allowed to talk about such things during a conversation being held, maybe it was too unclear in what I actually wrote.

If I came to you for a speed limiter for my motorhome and you started to talk to me about another subject, or asked me about my family for instance,do you think then it would be acceptable for me to tell you that you were talking off topic and should stop straight away, and if you wanted to talk about the weather, then phone Sian Lloyd. Of course not.

And as for my final paragraph, there are active moderators on here already, and they dont seem to be doing a very good job.
userDave Newell
Posted: 26 July 2007 1:46 PM
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Sorry Donna my opening line was not aimed at you, I picked up on several terms that had been used by different members and only one word of that came from you. As I've said earlier in this thread going "off topic" per se is not at issue here. If there is a logical path that a thread takes then fine but if someone jumps into a thread about how best to change a wheel and says "I took my dog for a walk this morning" then that is clearly a non logical diversion that might well mean the topic starters questions don't get answered. As for active moderators, well if we really did have active moderators this thread would be redundant by its very nature.

D.
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