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userViolet1956
Posted: 7 November 2018 5:39 PM
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Violet1956 - 2018-11-06 11:24 PM

One could add that publishing this video is not as bad as murdering 6 million Jews, flying planes into the World Trade Centre, killing police officers, placing bombs in Christmas markets, driving cars into people on Westminster Bridge etc. etc. but that would stating the bleedin’ obvious wouldn’t it?

It's worth remembering almost as many Russians were murdered under the Nazi regime yet rarely get so much as a mention, along with many others; https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/holocaust-non-jewish-victims_n_6555604

But regards this offence i don't see how the level of it can be justified by lessening it more serious heinous crimes of inhumanity otherwise we may as well say pick pockets are ok because they only steal a little bit where a bank robber steals thousands.

Rather than the level of the offence, i looked at the nature of it. People of this mindset are the same types who gleefully taunt a suicidal person threatening to jump, just as some did at a multi storey carpark in Birmingham, filming on their phones and shouting at the guy to "hurry up and get it over with" whilst police were frantically trying to save the guy.

I agree BG. The very nature of the "offence" is that it reveals an inhumanity the like of which has been the root of much suffering with varying consequences throughout history right up to the present day. Just to brush it off without calling it out would be to risk that such vile sentiments become acceptable.

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Posted: 7 November 2018 6:22 PM
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Violet1956 - 2018-11-07 5:39 PM

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Violet1956 - 2018-11-06 11:24 PM

One could add that publishing this video is not as bad as murdering 6 million Jews, flying planes into the World Trade Centre, killing police officers, placing bombs in Christmas markets, driving cars into people on Westminster Bridge etc. etc. but that would stating the bleedin’ obvious wouldn’t it?

It's worth remembering almost as many Russians were murdered under the Nazi regime yet rarely get so much as a mention, along with many others; https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/holocaust-non-jewish-victims_n_6555604

But regards this offence i don't see how the level of it can be justified by lessening it more serious heinous crimes of inhumanity otherwise we may as well say pick pockets are ok because they only steal a little bit where a bank robber steals thousands.

Rather than the level of the offence, i looked at the nature of it. People of this mindset are the same types who gleefully taunt a suicidal person threatening to jump, just as some did at a multi storey carpark in Birmingham, filming on their phones and shouting at the guy to "hurry up and get it over with" whilst police were frantically trying to save the guy.

I agree BG. The very nature of the "offence" is that it reveals an inhumanity the like of which has been the root of much suffering with varying consequences throughout history right up to the present day. Just to brush it off without calling it out would be to risk that such vile sentiments become acceptable.

It was a public display in their back garden which other neighbours witnessed. That the men filmed it on their phones and uploaded it to social media showed their intent which went from bad to worse. All six men were arrested under section 4a of the 1986 Public Order Act, now released under investigation. In my opinion it was a racially motivated hate crime and nothing less.

Sometimes YouTube get's abused with vile rubbish like this though they are pretty good at removing offensive material, Twitter and Facebook is not quite as thorough.
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Posted: 8 November 2018 9:53 AM
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Violet1956 - 2018-11-07 5:39 PM

The very nature of the "offence" is that it reveals an inhumanity the like of which has been the root of much suffering with varying consequences throughout history right up to the present day. Just to brush it off without calling it out would be to risk that such vile sentiments become acceptable.



Nope........It just proves that gallows humour still exists .......

I suspect they will suffer Socially and financially much more than if they'd actually committed a crime ........
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Posted: 8 November 2018 9:56 AM
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It's worth remembering almost as many Russians were murdered under the Nazi regime yet rarely get so much as a mention, along with many others; https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/holocaust-non-jewish-victims_n_6555604

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It's worth remembering that Hitler was a Socialist ..........Not a Tory ..........

Just thought I'd mention that before you made another attempt at reaching the moral high ground ........



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Posted: 8 November 2018 5:20 PM
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pelmetman - 2018-11-08 9:56 AM...………………...It's worth remembering that Hitler was a Socialist ..........Not a Tory ..........

Just thought I'd mention that before you made another attempt at reaching the moral high ground ........

Well, he wasn't, was he? National Socialism is merely a translation of the German Nationalsozialis.

The mere use of the word "socialism" does not turn a sinner into a saint, or vice versa. By their deeds shall you know them.

Whatever name is given to a dog, it is a dog (I met a pug the other day, its name was Princess - I didn't bow to it! ), and Hitler and his Nazis were fascists: the polar opposite to communists.

They are at the extreme of right wing thinking, just as communists are at the extreme of left wing thinking, at the point at which the two creeds become inseparable in practice, and begin to bleed into each other.

Beware extremists, they do funny things in the name of doing what is right (or left!).
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Posted: 8 November 2018 5:58 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2018-11-08 5:20 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-08 9:56 AM...………………...It's worth remembering that Hitler was a Socialist ..........Not a Tory ..........

Just thought I'd mention that before you made another attempt at reaching the moral high ground ........

Well, he wasn't, was he? National Socialism is merely a translation of the German Nationalsozialis.

The mere use of the word "socialism" does not turn a sinner into a saint, or vice versa. By their deeds shall you know them.

Whatever name is given to a dog, it is a dog (I met a pug the other day, its name was Princess - I didn't bow to it! ), and Hitler and his Nazis were fascists: the polar opposite to communists.

They are at the extreme of right wing thinking, just as communists are at the extreme of left wing thinking, at the point at which the two creeds become inseparable in practice, and begin to bleed into each other.

Beware extremists, they do funny things in the name of doing what is right (or left!).


Perhaps you could flag up a few Conservatives who became dictators to back up your argument Brian?

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Just sayin ..........

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Posted: 8 November 2018 6:08 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2018-11-08 5:20 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-08 9:56 AM...………………...It's worth remembering that Hitler was a Socialist ..........Not a Tory ..........

Just thought I'd mention that before you made another attempt at reaching the moral high ground ........

Well, he wasn't, was he? National Socialism is merely a translation of the German Nationalsozialis.

The mere use of the word "socialism" does not turn a sinner into a saint, or vice versa. By their deeds shall you know them.



Best you update the BBC and the rest of Socialist history whilst your at it ........

"In July 1921, he took over the leadership of the party, by then renamed the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), and, less than 12 years later, it had become the largest party in Germany and Hitler was Reich Chancellor. Why then did Hitler choose to join the NSDAP and effectively adopt politics as a career, and what personal qualities, abilities and political opinions did he bring with him from his previous life, which may help to explain his choice and his subsequent career?"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/hitler_01.shtml

If you want to vote in another antisemite Brian.........That's your choice .......

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Posted: 8 November 2018 6:18 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2018-11-08 5:20 PM

Whatever name is given to a dog, it is a dog (I met a pug the other day, its name was Princess - I didn't bow to it! ), and Hitler and his Nazis were fascists: the polar opposite to communists.


You do surprise me Brian ........

Anyone who know's their dogs would know that Communism, Fascism, Nazism all come from the same Socialist bitch ..........

Us Tory dogs would never mix with them ........

userViolet1956
Posted: 8 November 2018 7:50 PM
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pelmetman - 2018-11-08 6:08 PM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-08 5:20 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-08 9:56 AM...………………...It's worth remembering that Hitler was a Socialist ..........Not a Tory ..........

Just thought I'd mention that before you made another attempt at reaching the moral high ground ........

Well, he wasn't, was he? National Socialism is merely a translation of the German Nationalsozialis.

The mere use of the word "socialism" does not turn a sinner into a saint, or vice versa. By their deeds shall you know them.



Best you update the BBC and the rest of Socialist history whilst your at it ........

"In July 1921, he took over the leadership of the party, by then renamed the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), and, less than 12 years later, it had become the largest party in Germany and Hitler was Reich Chancellor. Why then did Hitler choose to join the NSDAP and effectively adopt politics as a career, and what personal qualities, abilities and political opinions did he bring with him from his previous life, which may help to explain his choice and his subsequent career?"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/hitler_01.shtml

If you want to vote in another antisemite Brian.........That's your choice .......

Oops I don't think you read the whole article Dave.
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Posted: 8 November 2018 7:54 PM
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Violet1956 - 2018-11-08 7:50 PM

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Brian Kirby - 2018-11-08 5:20 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-08 9:56 AM...………………...It's worth remembering that Hitler was a Socialist ..........Not a Tory ..........

Just thought I'd mention that before you made another attempt at reaching the moral high ground ........

Well, he wasn't, was he? National Socialism is merely a translation of the German Nationalsozialis.

The mere use of the word "socialism" does not turn a sinner into a saint, or vice versa. By their deeds shall you know them.



Best you update the BBC and the rest of Socialist history whilst your at it ........

"In July 1921, he took over the leadership of the party, by then renamed the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), and, less than 12 years later, it had become the largest party in Germany and Hitler was Reich Chancellor. Why then did Hitler choose to join the NSDAP and effectively adopt politics as a career, and what personal qualities, abilities and political opinions did he bring with him from his previous life, which may help to explain his choice and his subsequent career?"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/hitler_01.shtml

If you want to vote in another antisemite Brian.........That's your choice .......

Oops I don't think you read the whole article Dave.


I do tend to filter out the left wing bias from the facts Veronica .........

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Posted: 8 November 2018 11:45 PM
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Violet1956 - 2018-11-08 7:50 PM

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Brian Kirby - 2018-11-08 5:20 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-08 9:56 AM...………………...It's worth remembering that Hitler was a Socialist ..........Not a Tory ..........

Just thought I'd mention that before you made another attempt at reaching the moral high ground ........

Well, he wasn't, was he? National Socialism is merely a translation of the German Nationalsozialis.

The mere use of the word "socialism" does not turn a sinner into a saint, or vice versa. By their deeds shall you know them.



Best you update the BBC and the rest of Socialist history whilst your at it ........

"In July 1921, he took over the leadership of the party, by then renamed the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), and, less than 12 years later, it had become the largest party in Germany and Hitler was Reich Chancellor. Why then did Hitler choose to join the NSDAP and effectively adopt politics as a career, and what personal qualities, abilities and political opinions did he bring with him from his previous life, which may help to explain his choice and his subsequent career?"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/hitler_01.shtml

If you want to vote in another antisemite Brian.........That's your choice .......

Oops I don't think you read the whole article Dave.

You're wasting your time. He's been drinking again hence the inane claptrap he's posted most of the day....not that it's much better when he's sober.

This 'Hitler was a socialist' rubbish has been perpetuated for years by right wing revisionists in America which is where it has it's roots and why the two usual suspects who hang on everything and anything far right, soak such drivel up. I posted a link to an article which explains in detail how/why Hitlers use of 'socialist' was added to the NSDAP which had formerly been the DAP (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei). Arbeiter means 'worker' in German but Hitler wanted his ideology to encompass all so what better than to add "Nationalist Socialist". It's a misnomer but it worked. There wasn't any pictures in the article so i knew it would be beyond Pelmethead.

DPRK is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea so using the nutjob revisionists view, North Korea must be a democratic country. Well it says it is in the abbreviation doesn't it? Oddly enough you won't hear them try to argue this one.
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Posted: 9 November 2018 8:23 AM
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Bulletguy - 2018-11-08 11:45 PM

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pelmetman - 2018-11-08 6:08 PM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-08 5:20 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-08 9:56 AM...………………...It's worth remembering that Hitler was a Socialist ..........Not a Tory ..........

Just thought I'd mention that before you made another attempt at reaching the moral high ground ........

Well, he wasn't, was he? National Socialism is merely a translation of the German Nationalsozialis.

The mere use of the word "socialism" does not turn a sinner into a saint, or vice versa. By their deeds shall you know them.



Best you update the BBC and the rest of Socialist history whilst your at it ........

"In July 1921, he took over the leadership of the party, by then renamed the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), and, less than 12 years later, it had become the largest party in Germany and Hitler was Reich Chancellor. Why then did Hitler choose to join the NSDAP and effectively adopt politics as a career, and what personal qualities, abilities and political opinions did he bring with him from his previous life, which may help to explain his choice and his subsequent career?"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/hitler_01.shtml

If you want to vote in another antisemite Brian.........That's your choice .......

Oops I don't think you read the whole article Dave.

You're wasting your time. He's been drinking again hence the inane claptrap he's posted most of the day....not that it's much better when he's sober.

This 'Hitler was a socialist' rubbish has been perpetuated for years by right wing revisionists in America which is where it has it's roots and why the two usual suspects who hang on everything and anything far right, soak such drivel up. I posted a link to an article which explains in detail how/why Hitlers use of 'socialist' was added to the NSDAP which had formerly been the DAP (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei). Arbeiter means 'worker' in German but Hitler wanted his ideology to encompass all so what better than to add "Nationalist Socialist". It's a misnomer but it worked. There wasn't any pictures in the article so i knew it would be beyond Pelmethead.

DPRK is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea so using the nutjob revisionists view, North Korea must be a democratic country. Well it says it is in the abbreviation doesn't it? Oddly enough you won't hear them try to argue this one.


Rewriting history doesn't change the Facts Bullet, no matter how much you loony lefties try ........

Have you written Mussollini or Blair out of Socialism's History yet? .........



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Posted: 9 November 2018 10:13 AM
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I don't think he even read my post, let alone the bbc link. Names, dogs etc. Woof Woof!
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Posted: 9 November 2018 10:30 AM
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If history could be reduced to one-liners Dave could be the next A J P Taylor.
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Posted: 9 November 2018 4:12 PM
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Turns out one of the six men police arrested owns an £8 million block of flats. I wonder what the tenants think of their 'landlord'?

Apparently Bussetti has now gone off into hiding with his wife and daughter though it seems keeping a low profile is not something he's best known for. Wears lots of flash jewellery, drives around in a black Range Rover with personal plates and a sign on their house reads "The Bussetti Family - Party Animals".

Not much love lost from neighbours either who described them as "‘Racists, lager louts, scumbags and EDL wannabes."

Uff......the Bussetti's fit the profile of the perfect nightmare neighbour from Hell.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/07/man-arrested-over-grenfell-bonfire-is-party-animal-whose-dad-was-murdered-8115462/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7679392/grenfell-effigy-sicko-is-party-animal-millionaire-whose-dad-was-murdered-in-grisly-suitcase-killing-as-wife-and-daughter-go-into-hiding/
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Posted: 10 November 2018 9:12 AM
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Turns out one of the six men police arrested owns an £8 million block of flats. I wonder what the tenants think of their 'landlord'?

Apparently Bussetti has now gone off into hiding with his wife and daughter though it seems keeping a low profile is not something he's best known for. Wears lots of flash jewellery, drives around in a black Range Rover with personal plates and a sign on their house reads "The Bussetti Family - Party Animals".

Not much love lost from neighbours either who described them as "‘Racists, lager louts, scumbags and EDL wannabes."

Uff......the Bussetti's fit the profile of the perfect nightmare neighbour from Hell.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/07/man-arrested-over-grenfell-bonfire-is-party-animal-whose-dad-was-murdered-8115462/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7679392/grenfell-effigy-sicko-is-party-animal-millionaire-whose-dad-was-murdered-in-grisly-suitcase-killing-as-wife-and-daughter-go-into-hiding/


I wonder when the forums screaming pussy brigade will demand those who burnt an effigy of Boris Johnson are arrested? ............

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Posted: 10 November 2018 9:23 AM
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I don't think he even read my post, let alone the bbc link. Names, dogs etc. Woof Woof!


Just because our left wing academics try to rewrite history Brian ............

It doesn't mean you have to believe it ............

As I said earlier ......Communism, Nazism, Fascism are all the spawn of Socialism .........

They're all members of the same dysfunctional family who take it in turns to be top dog .........

Which is why Labour now has a communist lap dog in charge ..........

If you cant see the truth then you're clearly .......Barking .........

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Posted: 10 November 2018 12:53 PM
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I don't think he even read my post, let alone the bbc link. Names, dogs etc. Woof Woof!


Just because our left wing academics try to rewrite history Brian ............

It doesn't mean you have to believe it ............

As I said earlier ......Communism, Nazism, Fascism are all the spawn of Socialism .........

They're all members of the same dysfunctional family who take it in turns to be top dog .........

Which is why Labour now has a communist lap dog in charge ..........

If you cant see the truth then you're clearly .......Barking .........

I'm not sure who it is that re-writing history. It all gets a bit messy around the edges, as to who is in which camp. I'm attaching a few Wiki links to illustrate what I mean.

Socialism: http://tinyurl.com/lhoa8lr
National Socialism: http://tinyurl.com/yda2ll4k
Totalitarianism: http://tinyurl.com/d3wn7jf
Capitalism: http://tinyurl.com/ph9txck
Communism: http://tinyurl.com/oz9laty

However, what I think you are really focusing on is Totalitarianism (which is where the extreme examples of Nazism and Communism come in), while overlooking all the variations of democratic politics that have socialist and/or capitalist foundations. I think this is a huge over-simplification which argues, basically, that if something isn't black it must be white, and rejects all shades of grey and any colours.

I have therefore tended to see you as a somewhat extreme Anarchist ( http://tinyurl.com/yc62q4un ), rather than a supporter of any established democratic system.

There are a few examples of Anarchic local government in Israel, Bolivia, Mexico, Brazil, Algeria and northern Syria, but there no Anarchic national governments - from which one might conclude it is not that popular, successful, or workable.
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Posted: 10 November 2018 1:59 PM
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I don't think he even read my post, let alone the bbc link. Names, dogs etc. Woof Woof!


Just because our left wing academics try to rewrite history Brian ............

It doesn't mean you have to believe it ............

As I said earlier ......Communism, Nazism, Fascism are all the spawn of Socialism .........

They're all members of the same dysfunctional family who take it in turns to be top dog .........

Which is why Labour now has a communist lap dog in charge ..........

If you cant see the truth then you're clearly .......Barking .........

I'm not sure who it is that re-writing history. It all gets a bit messy around the edges, as to who is in which camp. I'm attaching a few Wiki links to illustrate what I mean.

Socialism: http://tinyurl.com/lhoa8lr
National Socialism: http://tinyurl.com/yda2ll4k
Totalitarianism: http://tinyurl.com/d3wn7jf
Capitalism: http://tinyurl.com/ph9txck
Communism: http://tinyurl.com/oz9laty

However, what I think you are really focusing on is Totalitarianism (which is where the extreme examples of Nazism and Communism come in), while overlooking all the variations of democratic politics that have socialist and/or capitalist foundations. I think this is a huge over-simplification which argues, basically, that if something isn't black it must be white, and rejects all shades of grey and any colours.

I have therefore tended to see you as a somewhat extreme Anarchist ( http://tinyurl.com/yc62q4un ), rather than a supporter of any established democratic system.

There are a few examples of Anarchic local government in Israel, Bolivia, Mexico, Brazil, Algeria and northern Syria, but there no Anarchic national governments - from which one might conclude it is not that popular, successful, or workable.


Extreme Anarchist? ............

You've really been suckered by the left wing academics haven't you Brian .........

It took me a while to work it out ..........But I'm a natural Tory with a extreme aversion to left wing tosh ..........

Where as I think your a Liberal with intellectually snobbish views of those of "Us who don't agree with the status quo" ...........

Discuss .........

BTW Brian you forgot......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

We're the nice "Ism" on the block who have to constantly sort out the sh*t from the other "Ism's" .........



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pelmetman - 2018-11-10 1:59 PM...……………………...
Extreme Anarchist? ............

You've really been suckered by the left wing academics haven't you Brian .........

No, just by what you say on here!

It took me a while to work it out ..........But I'm a natural Tory with a extreme aversion to left wing tosh ..........

There's no such thing. I would have said more Whiggish than Tory, but definitely not a natural Conservative. You're to the right of the Rees Mogg wing - and he's not at all natural!

Where as I think your a Liberal with intellectually snobbish views of those of "Us who don't agree with the status quo" ...........

Can't be snobbish, I'm talking to you! Liberal, Socialist, Conservative etc are just pigeon holes. Not sure I belong in any of their boxes. Too restricting for my liking. I agree with some of each of their policies, but I don't buy the whole bag of any of them. Floating voter, me!

Discuss .........
See above.

BTW Brian you forgot...… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism We're the nice "Ism" on the block who have to constantly sort out the sh*t from the other "Ism's" ......…

True at times, but then one of the other "isms" has to step in to clear up the ordures left behind by your "ism". Not being an "ismist", I can see this, whereas you "ism" people can never see your own "ism's" ordures. For example, your "ism" is presently in deep doo doo (and that is serious ordures), but you "ismists" can't (yet) see that - though everyone else can!

I just mourn the colossal amounts of public money wasted on bloody "isms", instead of sitting down and working out what would best benefit the whole country, settling an agenda, and embarking on a phased programme to implement it.

Apologies if this brings on an acute attack of cognitive dissonance!
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For example, your "ism" is presently in deep doo doo (and that is serious ordures), but you "ismists" can't (yet) see that - though everyone else can!



Really Brian?.........Cant you smell the Populist pong pervading Europe? ........

Perhaps the leftist ordure in your vignette is obscuring your sensible cells? .......

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Posted: 10 November 2018 6:01 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2018-11-10 5:32 PM

Can't be snobbish, I'm talking to you!



You mean you like to talk down to me .........

Just sayin .......

Not particularly bothered, as I've spent years working for folk like you .......

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Posted: 10 November 2018 6:32 PM
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pelmetman - 2018-11-10 9:12 AM

Bulletguy - 2018-11-09 4:12 PM


Turns out one of the six men police arrested owns an £8 million block of flats. I wonder what the tenants think of their 'landlord'?

Apparently Bussetti has now gone off into hiding with his wife and daughter though it seems keeping a low profile is not something he's best known for. Wears lots of flash jewellery, drives around in a black Range Rover with personal plates and a sign on their house reads "The Bussetti Family - Party Animals".

Not much love lost from neighbours either who described them as "‘Racists, lager louts, scumbags and EDL wannabes."

Uff......the Bussetti's fit the profile of the perfect nightmare neighbour from Hell.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/07/man-arrested-over-grenfell-bonfire-is-party-animal-whose-dad-was-murdered-8115462/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7679392/grenfell-effigy-sicko-is-party-animal-millionaire-whose-dad-was-murdered-in-grisly-suitcase-killing-as-wife-and-daughter-go-into-hiding/


I wonder when the forums screaming pussy brigade will demand those who burnt an effigy of Boris Johnson are arrested? ............

You keep using this whenever stuck for credible response.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/whataboutery
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Posted: 10 November 2018 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: Grenfell Tower
 


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pelmetman - 2018-11-10 6:01 PM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-10 5:32 PM

Can't be snobbish, I'm talking to you!



You mean you like to talk down to me .........

Just sayin .......

Not particularly bothered, as I've spent years working for folk like you .......

Down to you! Bloody cheek! I've always treated you as a social equal! Besides, folk like me can't afford your rates.
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Posted: 10 November 2018 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: Grenfell Tower
 


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pelmetman - 2018-11-10 6:01 PM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-10 5:32 PM

Can't be snobbish, I'm talking to you!



You mean you like to talk down to me .........

Just sayin .......

Not particularly bothered, as I've spent years working for folk like you .......

Down to you! Bloody cheek! I've always treated you as a social equal! Besides, folk like me can't afford your rates.
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Posted: 10 November 2018 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: Grenfell Tower
 


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Brian Kirby - 2018-11-10 12:53 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-10 9:23 AM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-09 10:13 AM

I don't think he even read my post, let alone the bbc link. Names, dogs etc. Woof Woof!


Just because our left wing academics try to rewrite history Brian ............

It doesn't mean you have to believe it ............

As I said earlier ......Communism, Nazism, Fascism are all the spawn of Socialism .........

They're all members of the same dysfunctional family who take it in turns to be top dog .........

Which is why Labour now has a communist lap dog in charge ..........

If you cant see the truth then you're clearly .......Barking .........

I'm not sure who it is that re-writing history.

Revisionist right wing fruit loops which has been pointed out to him before but he won't read and learn so his head is totally fuddled now he's even trying to claim it as an agenda by the left! To say he's batsh1t bonkers would be a gross understatement!

Where else has this 'Hitler was a socialist' tripe come from? No less than what it states in this article and spreads throughout the type of far right trash websites that feeds dummies who soak this drivel up.

"This revisionism has been gaining ground for years in the right-wing parallel universe in the United States."

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/nazism-socialism-and-the-falsification-of-history/10214302
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Posted: 10 November 2018 6:58 PM
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Bulletguy - 2018-11-10 6:46 PM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-10 12:53 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-10 9:23 AM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-09 10:13 AM

I don't think he even read my post, let alone the bbc link. Names, dogs etc. Woof Woof!


Just because our left wing academics try to rewrite history Brian ............

It doesn't mean you have to believe it ............

As I said earlier ......Communism, Nazism, Fascism are all the spawn of Socialism .........

They're all members of the same dysfunctional family who take it in turns to be top dog .........

Which is why Labour now has a communist lap dog in charge ..........

If you cant see the truth then you're clearly .......Barking .........

I'm not sure who it is that re-writing history.

Revisionist right wing fruit loops which has been pointed out to him before but he won't read and learn so his head is totally fuddled now he's even trying to claim it as an agenda by the left! To say he's batsh1t bonkers would be a gross understatement!

Where else has this 'Hitler was a socialist' tripe come from? No less than what it states in this article and spreads throughout the type of far right trash websites that feeds dummies who soak this drivel up.

"This revisionism has been gaining ground for years in the right-wing parallel universe in the United States."

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/nazism-socialism-and-the-falsification-of-history/10214302


There's no revision involved in my view of Socialist history Bullet ........

Although I'm not surprised to find "You" once again defending the indefensible ........

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Posted: 10 November 2018 7:00 PM
Subject: RE: Grenfell Tower
 


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Brian Kirby - 2018-11-10 6:32 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-10 6:01 PM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-10 5:32 PM

Can't be snobbish, I'm talking to you!



You mean you like to talk down to me .........

Just sayin .......

Not particularly bothered, as I've spent years working for folk like you .......

Down to you! Bloody cheek! I've always treated you as a social equal! Besides, folk like me can't afford your rates.


Social equal? ........

kinda damned yourself there Brian ........

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Posted: 10 November 2018 7:14 PM
Subject: RE: Grenfell Tower
 


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pelmetman - 2018-11-10 6:58 PM

Bulletguy - 2018-11-10 6:46 PM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-10 12:53 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-10 9:23 AM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-09 10:13 AM

I don't think he even read my post, let alone the bbc link. Names, dogs etc. Woof Woof!


Just because our left wing academics try to rewrite history Brian ............

It doesn't mean you have to believe it ............

As I said earlier ......Communism, Nazism, Fascism are all the spawn of Socialism .........

They're all members of the same dysfunctional family who take it in turns to be top dog .........

Which is why Labour now has a communist lap dog in charge ..........

If you cant see the truth then you're clearly .......Barking .........

I'm not sure who it is that re-writing history.

Revisionist right wing fruit loops which has been pointed out to him before but he won't read and learn so his head is totally fuddled now he's even trying to claim it as an agenda by the left! To say he's batsh1t bonkers would be a gross understatement!

Where else has this 'Hitler was a socialist' tripe come from? No less than what it states in this article and spreads throughout the type of far right trash websites that feeds dummies who soak this drivel up.

"This revisionism has been gaining ground for years in the right-wing parallel universe in the United States."

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/nazism-socialism-and-the-falsification-of-history/10214302


There's no revision involved in my view of Socialist history Bullet ........

Although I'm not surprised to find "You" once again defending the indefensible ........

Do yourself a huge favour for once in your life......read that article over and over and learn something informative for a change. Your post is utter codswallop.
userpelmetman
Posted: 10 November 2018 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: Grenfell Tower
 


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Bulletguy - 2018-11-10 7:14 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-10 6:58 PM

Bulletguy - 2018-11-10 6:46 PM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-10 12:53 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-10 9:23 AM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-09 10:13 AM

I don't think he even read my post, let alone the bbc link. Names, dogs etc. Woof Woof!


Just because our left wing academics try to rewrite history Brian ............

It doesn't mean you have to believe it ............

As I said earlier ......Communism, Nazism, Fascism are all the spawn of Socialism .........

They're all members of the same dysfunctional family who take it in turns to be top dog .........

Which is why Labour now has a communist lap dog in charge ..........

If you cant see the truth then you're clearly .......Barking .........

I'm not sure who it is that re-writing history.

Revisionist right wing fruit loops which has been pointed out to him before but he won't read and learn so his head is totally fuddled now he's even trying to claim it as an agenda by the left! To say he's batsh1t bonkers would be a gross understatement!

Where else has this 'Hitler was a socialist' tripe come from? No less than what it states in this article and spreads throughout the type of far right trash websites that feeds dummies who soak this drivel up.

"This revisionism has been gaining ground for years in the right-wing parallel universe in the United States."

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/nazism-socialism-and-the-falsification-of-history/10214302


There's no revision involved in my view of Socialist history Bullet ........

Although I'm not surprised to find "You" once again defending the indefensible ........

Do yourself a huge favour for once in your life......read that article over and over and learn something informative for a change. Your post is utter codswallop.


I did history years ago .......

Before it got recycled by your loony lefty Socialist apologists .......

So do yourself a favour Bullet ........and own your own sh*t ........

Perhaps you should book into one of those Gulags your leftist "Academic" chums tell us were no worse than Butlins .......

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