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antony1969 - 2018-10-16 6:28 AM

 

Can anyone be bothered watching the link ??? ... I bet its full of stuff showing just how dipsy and light headed us Brexiteers are and how gullible us little people were compared to the far superior intelligence of the Remainer ... Oh Lordy

 

Why not watch it and see?

You would learn more in 13 minutes than you have in all the years of reading the gutter press.

Or are you only interested in stuff that panders to your prejudices?

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I thought it was an interesting talk. You just have to look at all the comments over the past two years or so from Brexiteers regarding immigrants. Most of them are just copied and pasted straight out of the Brexpress and Fail, They read it in the Fail so it must be true and thats how their views are formed. There are never any posts or thoughts from Brexiteers on how personally to them being a member of the EU has effected their lives for the worse or how immigrants have effected their lives. Just the thoughts they are fed my the anti EU and anti immigrant press.

 

 

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John52 - 2018-10-16 9:57 AM

 

antony1969 - 2018-10-16 6:28 AM

 

Can anyone be bothered watching the link ??? ... I bet its full of stuff showing just how dipsy and light headed us Brexiteers are and how gullible us little people were compared to the far superior intelligence of the Remainer ... Oh Lordy

 

Why not watch it and see?

You would learn more in 13 minutes than you have in all the years of reading the gutter press.

Or are you only interested in stuff that panders to your prejudices?

 

If you think it's worth watching then it kinda says it all don't it ???

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John52 - 2018-10-16 9:57 AM

 

antony1969 - 2018-10-16 6:28 AM

 

Can anyone be bothered watching the link ??? ... I bet its full of stuff showing just how dipsy and light headed us Brexiteers are and how gullible us little people were compared to the far superior intelligence of the Remainer ... Oh Lordy

 

Why not watch it and see?

You would learn more in 13 minutes than you have in all the years of reading the gutter press.

Or are you only interested in stuff that panders to your prejudices?

They're too afraid is the answer to the first question and we all know the answer to the last!

 

 

Barryd999 - 2018-10-16 10:17 AM

 

I thought it was an interesting talk. You just have to look at all the comments over the past two years or so from Brexiteers regarding immigrants.

Very professionally presented imo in a calm informed manner without the need for ramped up rhetoric, hyperbole, and silly soundbites favoured by the far right.

 

In 2015 he filed 13 complaints to IPSO on just ONE story the DM carried packed full of lies. The ECC (Editors Code of Conduct) also just happens to be chaired by Paul Dacre, DM Editor, which speaks volumes! The press regulator refused to publish the findings.....so Danzig published instead.

http://jondanzig.blogspot.com/2015/09/my-13-complaints-against-one-daily-mail.html

 

Danzig's website; http://jondanzig.wixsite.com/journalist

 

Most of them are just copied and pasted straight out of the Brexpress and Fail, They read it in the Fail so it must be true and thats how their views are formed. There are never any posts or thoughts from Brexiteers on how personally to them being a member of the EU has effected their lives for the worse or how immigrants have effected their lives. Just the thoughts they are fed my the anti EU and anti immigrant press.

This particular point is often brought up by posters on other forums and typically not one Brexiter has yet come up with a credible answer. Puppets on strings dancing to the tune of far right extremism aren't capable of thinking for themselves, they need their thought control police to tell them. Brexsh1ters blundering on to create their mad dystopian 'dream'.

 

Orwell was right.

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antony1969 - 2018-10-16 12:12 PM

 

John52 - 2018-10-16 9:57 AM

 

antony1969 - 2018-10-16 6:28 AM

 

Can anyone be bothered watching the link ??? ... I bet its full of stuff showing just how dipsy and light headed us Brexiteers are and how gullible us little people were compared to the far superior intelligence of the Remainer ... Oh Lordy

 

Why not watch it and see?

You would learn more in 13 minutes than you have in all the years of reading the gutter press.

Or are you only interested in stuff that panders to your prejudices?

 

If you think it's worth watching then it kinda says it all don't it ???

That's where you fail. By not viewing you are unable to form any opinion and post any critical comment so resort to slinging out inane pointless remarks instead.

 

Of course viewing is not compulsory...but then you must expect any comment you make to be instantly dismissed.

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Bulletguy - 2018-10-16 2:36 PM

 

antony1969 - 2018-10-16 12:12 PM

 

John52 - 2018-10-16 9:57 AM

 

antony1969 - 2018-10-16 6:28 AM

 

Can anyone be bothered watching the link ??? ... I bet its full of stuff showing just how dipsy and light headed us Brexiteers are and how gullible us little people were compared to the far superior intelligence of the Remainer ... Oh Lordy

 

Why not watch it and see?

You would learn more in 13 minutes than you have in all the years of reading the gutter press.

Or are you only interested in stuff that panders to your prejudices?

 

If you think it's worth watching then it kinda says it all don't it ???

That's where you fail. By not viewing you are unable to form any opinion and post any critical comment so resort to slinging out inane pointless remarks instead.

 

Of course viewing is not compulsory...but then you must expect any comment you make to be instantly dismissed.

 

Who are you ... New forum moderator ... "instantly dismissed" ... Nearly as good as your "big boy" line t'other day which obviously means you've been watching me shower at home given you know my address ... If you , Borey and John/Peter/James are getting all turned on over that link then for me it means it must be a load of old tosh ... Go wipe yaself down

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antony1969 - 2018-10-16 3:13 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2018-10-16 2:36 PM

 

antony1969 - 2018-10-16 12:12 PM

 

John52 - 2018-10-16 9:57 AM

 

antony1969 - 2018-10-16 6:28 AM

 

Can anyone be bothered watching the link ??? ... I bet its full of stuff showing just how dipsy and light headed us Brexiteers are and how gullible us little people were compared to the far superior intelligence of the Remainer ... Oh Lordy

 

Why not watch it and see?

You would learn more in 13 minutes than you have in all the years of reading the gutter press.

Or are you only interested in stuff that panders to your prejudices?

 

If you think it's worth watching then it kinda says it all don't it ???

That's where you fail. By not viewing you are unable to form any opinion and post any critical comment so resort to slinging out inane pointless remarks instead.

 

Of course viewing is not compulsory...but then you must expect any comment you make to be instantly dismissed.

 

Who are you ..all turned on over that link then for me it means it must be a load of old tosh ...

You really do yourself no favours at all do you? *-)

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Remarkable really how a few right wing politicians and tax exiled 'newspaper' owners have managed to convince so many people whats in their own interest (avoiding tax and controlling the country for their own ends) is in the public interest too.

Judging by antony's comments I think they must have done it by pandering to the worst of human instincts - their prejudice against foreigners for example. They need to create an enemy to blame and rouse the rabble against - with Hitler it was the Jews. :-(

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John52 - 2018-10-16 4:11 PM

 

Remarkable really how a few right wing politicians and tax exiled 'newspaper' owners have managed to convince so many people whats in their own interest (avoiding tax and controlling the country for their own ends) is in the public interest too.

Judging by antony's comments I think they must have done it by pandering to the worst of human instincts - their prejudice against foreigners for example. They need to create an enemy to blame and rouse the rabble against - with Hitler it was the Jews. :-(

 

How many right wing Tory politicians have caused genocide? ;-) ........

 

None............. That's the job of you lovely cuddly left wing Socialists 8-) ........

 

Talk about glass houses (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

 

 

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John52 - 2018-10-16 4:11 PM

 

Remarkable really how a few right wing politicians and tax exiled 'newspaper' owners have managed to convince so many people whats in their own interest (avoiding tax and controlling the country for their own ends) is in the public interest too.

Judging by antony's comments I think they must have done it by pandering to the worst of human instincts - their prejudice against foreigners for example. They need to create an enemy to blame and rouse the rabble against - with Hitler it was the Jews. :-(

 

Interesting you mention prejudice ... You have 3 that normally litter most of your posts ... Tories , royalty and The Daily Mail ... Must be a socialist thing hating Jews ... Hitler and your hero Corbyn ... Let's hope it doesn't end the same

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antony1969 - 2018-10-16 4:35 PM

 

John52 - 2018-10-16 4:11 PM

 

Remarkable really how a few right wing politicians and tax exiled 'newspaper' owners have managed to convince so many people whats in their own interest (avoiding tax and controlling the country for their own ends) is in the public interest too.

Judging by antony's comments I think they must have done it by pandering to the worst of human instincts - their prejudice against foreigners for example. They need to create an enemy to blame and rouse the rabble against - with Hitler it was the Jews. :-(

 

Interesting you mention prejudice ... You have 3 that normally litter most of your posts ... Tories , royalty and The Daily Mail ... Must be a socialist thing hating Jews ... Hitler and your hero Corbyn ... Let's hope it doesn't end the same

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh9wn64xor4

 

:D ............

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How many times do I have to tell you two muppets I'm not a Socialist.

I'm a Free Enterprise Capitalist.

Thats why I disagree with the Tories Intervention in the Housing Market to inflate house prices and create a rent extracting economy - Socialism for the Rich posing as Free Enterprise Capitalism.

And a lot of other things besides - like bribing the DUP with our money to buy themselves votes >:-)

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John52 - 2018-10-16 5:12 PM

 

How many times do I have to tell you two muppets I'm not a Socialist.

I'm a Free Enterprise Capitalist.

Thats why I disagree with the Tories Intervention in the Housing Market to inflate house prices and create a rent extracting economy - Socialism for the Rich posing as Free Enterprise Capitalism.

And a lot of other things besides - like bribing the DUP with our money to buy themselves votes >:-)

 

Which means what??? *-) ........You support left wing ideology.....Moan constantly about the rich moving their money abroad.......Moan even more about the lack of housing :-| .........

 

YET....... You freely admit you keep your money abroad and your house empty???? 8-) ......

 

I reckon I've just worked a what a "Free Enterprise Capitalist" is ;-) ..........

 

A HYPOCRITE >:-) ........

 

 

 

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pelmetman - 2018-10-16 5:19 PM

 

John52 - 2018-10-16 5:12 PM

 

How many times do I have to tell you two muppets I'm not a Socialist.

I'm a Free Enterprise Capitalist.

Thats why I disagree with the Tories Intervention in the Housing Market to inflate house prices and create a rent extracting economy - Socialism for the Rich posing as Free Enterprise Capitalism.

And a lot of other things besides - like bribing the DUP with our money to buy themselves votes >:-)

 

Which means what??? *-) ........You support left wing ideology.....Moan constantly about the rich moving their money abroad.......Moan even more about the lack of housing :-| .........

 

YET....... You freely admit you keep your money abroad and your house empty???? 8-) ......

 

I reckon I've just worked a what a "Free Enterprise Capitalist" is ;-) ..........

 

A HYPOCRITE >:-) ........

 

 

Can't you see the difference is I am not saying Brexit will be good for Britain's economy?

Doesn't it strike you as just a little bit odd that your heros like Rees Mogg say Brexit will be good for the British economy whilst moving their own money abroad.

And I am not saying we should have to take the homeless into our homes.

I am saying this supposedly Free Enterprise Government should not intervene in the housing market to restrict the supply through planning constraints, whilst stoking up the demand with taxpayer funded subsifdies like 'Help to Buy' Housing Benefit etc Or sell public housing off cheap, so that instead of receiving rent from it we have to pay Housing Benefit to those who can't afford inflated rents, adding to the record debt the Tories are ringing up.

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John52 - 2018-10-16 4:11 PM

 

Remarkable really how a few right wing politicians and tax exiled 'newspaper' owners have managed to convince so many people whats in their own interest (avoiding tax and controlling the country for their own ends) is in the public interest too.

Judging by antony's comments I think they must have done it by pandering to the worst of human instincts - their prejudice against foreigners for example. They need to create an enemy to blame and rouse the rabble against - with Hitler it was the Jews. :-(

 

How many right wing Tory politicians have caused genocide? ;-) ........

 

None.............

You really should view that clip i posted then you might just start learning and be able to post credible debate. Jon Danzig explained this very well on that clip.

 

Dehumanising people is the first step to genocide......and the right wing extremism you revere so much has been busily dehumansing with it's vile rhetoric. Even prompting the Torygraph to run this article. The least you could do is try and read that as uncomfortable as it must be for you.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/dehumanising-opponents-first-step-genocide-right-now-every/

 

http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutgenocide/8stagesofgenocide.html

 

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John52 - 2018-10-16 5:45 PM

 

pelmetman - 2018-10-16 5:19 PM

 

John52 - 2018-10-16 5:12 PM

 

How many times do I have to tell you two muppets I'm not a Socialist.

I'm a Free Enterprise Capitalist.

Thats why I disagree with the Tories Intervention in the Housing Market to inflate house prices and create a rent extracting economy - Socialism for the Rich posing as Free Enterprise Capitalism.

And a lot of other things besides - like bribing the DUP with our money to buy themselves votes >:-)

 

Which means what??? *-) ........You support left wing ideology.....Moan constantly about the rich moving their money abroad.......Moan even more about the lack of housing :-| .........

 

YET....... You freely admit you keep your money abroad and your house empty???? 8-) ......

 

I reckon I've just worked a what a "Free Enterprise Capitalist" is ;-) ..........

 

A HYPOCRITE >:-) ........

 

 

Can't you see the difference is I am not saying Brexit will be good for Britain's economy?

Doesn't it strike you as just a little bit odd that your heros like Rees Mogg say Brexit will be good for the British economy whilst moving their own money abroad.

And I am not saying we should have to take the homeless into our homes.

I am saying this supposedly Free Enterprise Government should not intervene in the housing market to restrict the supply through planning constraints, whilst stoking up the demand with taxpayer funded subsifdies like 'Help to Buy' Housing Benefit etc Or sell public housing off cheap, so that instead of receiving rent from it we have to pay Housing Benefit to those who can't afford inflated rents, adding to the record debt the Tories are ringing up.

 

Not a mention of your own money stashed away abroad or your empty property ... Like Dave says ... HYPOCRITE ... Song for ya ...

... Enjoy
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Bulletguy - 2018-10-16 5:47 PM

 

pelmetman - 2018-10-16 4:15 PM

 

John52 - 2018-10-16 4:11 PM

 

Remarkable really how a few right wing politicians and tax exiled 'newspaper' owners have managed to convince so many people whats in their own interest (avoiding tax and controlling the country for their own ends) is in the public interest too.

Judging by antony's comments I think they must have done it by pandering to the worst of human instincts - their prejudice against foreigners for example. They need to create an enemy to blame and rouse the rabble against - with Hitler it was the Jews. :-(

 

How many right wing Tory politicians have caused genocide? ;-) ........

 

None.............

You really should view that clip i posted then you might just start learning and be able to post credible debate. Jon Danzig explained this very well on that clip.

 

Dehumanising people is the first step to genocide......and the right wing extremism you revere so much has been busily dehumansing with it's vile rhetoric. Even prompting the Torygraph to run this article. The least you could do is try and read that as uncomfortable as it must be for you.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/dehumanising-opponents-first-step-genocide-right-now-every/

 

http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutgenocide/8stagesofgenocide.html

 

Why are you telling me that? :-S ...........I'm not a brain dead left winger ;-) ..........

 

As history has proved........It's YOU SOCIALISTS who are their gullible fodder >:-) .......

 

 

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Bulletguy - 2018-10-16 5:47 PM

 

pelmetman - 2018-10-16 4:15 PM

 

John52 - 2018-10-16 4:11 PM

 

Remarkable really how a few right wing politicians and tax exiled 'newspaper' owners have managed to convince so many people whats in their own interest (avoiding tax and controlling the country for their own ends) is in the public interest too.

Judging by antony's comments I think they must have done it by pandering to the worst of human instincts - their prejudice against foreigners for example. They need to create an enemy to blame and rouse the rabble against - with Hitler it was the Jews. :-(

 

How many right wing Tory politicians have caused genocide? ;-) ........

 

None.............

You really should view that clip i posted then you might just start learning and be able to post credible debate. Jon Danzig explained this very well on that clip.

 

Dehumanising people is the first step to genocide......and the right wing extremism you revere so much has been busily dehumansing with it's vile rhetoric. Even prompting the Torygraph to run this article. The least you could do is try and read that as uncomfortable as it must be for you.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/dehumanising-opponents-first-step-genocide-right-now-every/

 

http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutgenocide/8stagesofgenocide.html

 

Dehumanising ??? ... Im hoping that doesnt happen to our Jewish community if that vile anti-Semite did gain power ... Like Hitler he's going to regulate the press to his liking also ... We must all join together and make sure this man and his like minded party never gain power ... Yuk

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John52 - 2018-10-16 5:45 PM

 

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John52 - 2018-10-16 5:12 PM

 

How many times do I have to tell you two muppets I'm not a Socialist.

I'm a Free Enterprise Capitalist.

Thats why I disagree with the Tories Intervention in the Housing Market to inflate house prices and create a rent extracting economy - Socialism for the Rich posing as Free Enterprise Capitalism.

And a lot of other things besides - like bribing the DUP with our money to buy themselves votes >:-)

 

Which means what??? *-) ........You support left wing ideology.....Moan constantly about the rich moving their money abroad.......Moan even more about the lack of housing :-| .........

 

YET....... You freely admit you keep your money abroad and your house empty???? 8-) ......

 

I reckon I've just worked a what a "Free Enterprise Capitalist" is ;-) ..........

 

A HYPOCRITE >:-) ........

 

 

Can't you see the difference is I am not saying Brexit will be good for Britain's economy?

Doesn't it strike you as just a little bit odd that your heros like Rees Mogg say Brexit will be good for the British economy whilst moving their own money abroad.

And I am not saying we should have to take the homeless into our homes.

I am saying this supposedly Free Enterprise Government should not intervene in the housing market to restrict the supply through planning constraints, whilst stoking up the demand with taxpayer funded subsifdies like 'Help to Buy' Housing Benefit etc Or sell public housing off cheap, so that instead of receiving rent from it we have to pay Housing Benefit to those who can't afford inflated rents, adding to the record debt the Tories are ringing up.

 

Cant you see that your hero's like old Sorearse are only in it for themselves *-) ..........

 

At least this Hang em Flog em Right Wing Selfish Bastard is putting his Gaff where his gob is, and doing our bit for the housing crisis that you keep on bleating about.........

 

By renting our house whilst we don't need it >:-) ..........

 

 

 

 

 

 

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antony1969 - 2018-10-16 6:01 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2018-10-16 5:47 PM

 

pelmetman - 2018-10-16 4:15 PM

 

John52 - 2018-10-16 4:11 PM

 

Remarkable really how a few right wing politicians and tax exiled 'newspaper' owners have managed to convince so many people whats in their own interest (avoiding tax and controlling the country for their own ends) is in the public interest too.

Judging by antony's comments I think they must have done it by pandering to the worst of human instincts - their prejudice against foreigners for example. They need to create an enemy to blame and rouse the rabble against - with Hitler it was the Jews. :-(

 

How many right wing Tory politicians have caused genocide? ;-) ........

 

None.............

You really should view that clip i posted then you might just start learning and be able to post credible debate. Jon Danzig explained this very well on that clip.

 

Dehumanising people is the first step to genocide......and the right wing extremism you revere so much has been busily dehumansing with it's vile rhetoric. Even prompting the Torygraph to run this article. The least you could do is try and read that as uncomfortable as it must be for you.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/dehumanising-opponents-first-step-genocide-right-now-every/

 

http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutgenocide/8stagesofgenocide.html

 

Dehumanising ???

Yes.

 

Referring to migrants as "cockroaches" and "vermin" is dehumanising people.

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Bulletguy - 2018-10-16 6:06 PM

 

antony1969 - 2018-10-16 6:01 PM

 

Bulletguy - 2018-10-16 5:47 PM

 

pelmetman - 2018-10-16 4:15 PM

 

John52 - 2018-10-16 4:11 PM

 

Remarkable really how a few right wing politicians and tax exiled 'newspaper' owners have managed to convince so many people whats in their own interest (avoiding tax and controlling the country for their own ends) is in the public interest too.

Judging by antony's comments I think they must have done it by pandering to the worst of human instincts - their prejudice against foreigners for example. They need to create an enemy to blame and rouse the rabble against - with Hitler it was the Jews. :-(

 

How many right wing Tory politicians have caused genocide? ;-) ........

 

None.............

You really should view that clip i posted then you might just start learning and be able to post credible debate. Jon Danzig explained this very well on that clip.

 

Dehumanising people is the first step to genocide......and the right wing extremism you revere so much has been busily dehumansing with it's vile rhetoric. Even prompting the Torygraph to run this article. The least you could do is try and read that as uncomfortable as it must be for you.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/dehumanising-opponents-first-step-genocide-right-now-every/

 

http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutgenocide/8stagesofgenocide.html

 

Dehumanising ???

Yes.

 

Referring to migrants as "cockroaches" and "vermin" is dehumanising people.

 

.......and what have you Remoaners called us Brexiteers? (lol) (lol) (lol) ......

 

It's just as well we ain't like you Loony lefty Remoaner Snowflakes :D ........

 

At least a Tory has never resorted to using the gas chamber or the Gulag......unlike your SOCIALIST LEADERS *-) ............

 

 

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