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Posted: 8 July 2020 6:39 AM
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... Yuk ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8497603/Former-Labour-shadow-minister-Eric-Joyce-pleads-guilty-making-child-porn-image.html ... Same fella who nutted those Tories ... Nice lot these Labour types
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Shock horror!! Politician turns out to be a pervert. Well I never! Thats never happened before has it?
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It's sickening ..and very troubling.

We would expect far far better behaviour from some average bloke in the street... let alone from someone who has served in the British Army, had gained a BA in Religious Studies, attended sandhurst, progressed to being a Major, and who then went on to become an MP. ?

What with this, and that case with the police officers talking "selfies" of those murdered girls?

Is it perhaps the "tech" element and the perceived "anonimity" they feel it gives them, that leads some to think that they are "distanced" from reality, so therefore act in ways that they wouldn't dream of in the "real world"?

Or are they just twisted, nasty b*st*rds?




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Posted: 8 July 2020 8:42 AM
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Has anything changed since this was written 18 years ago?
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2002/may/28/childprotection
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Posted: 8 July 2020 8:48 AM
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Barryd999 - 2020-07-08 8:03 AM

Shock horror!! Politician turns out to be a pervert. Well I never! Thats never happened before has it?


Sorry for posting it Barry ... For some strange reason it looks like me posting about a Labour Minister viewing child porn which included the worst possible type has upset you more than the actual actions of the vile beast ... Mind you do have a rather twisted view of criminality as we all know ... Vandalism , thuggery and violence all just plain old "funny" to you
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-08 8:48 AM

the actual actions of the vile beast ...


what were these actions?
can't read the link because it won't accept my ad blocker blocking 'unacceptable' adverts
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Posted: 8 July 2020 12:53 PM
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Barryd999 - 2020-07-08 8:03 AM

Shock horror!! Politician turns out to be a pervert. Well I never! Thats never happened before has it?


Sorry for posting it Barry ... For some strange reason it looks like me posting about a Labour Minister viewing child porn which included the worst possible type has upset you more than the actual actions of the vile beast ... Mind you do have a rather twisted view of criminality as we all know ... Vandalism , thuggery and violence all just plain old "funny" to you


Oh come on. You got the reaction you were hoping for. Its sickening but you had to turn it around to a snipe at Labour politicians as if they are somehow more likely to be perverts that Tories or Libdems or god forbid, The Brexit party!! Claire Fox anyone?

The thing is someone like this is clearly sick and it makes no difference whether they are a Labour Politician. Tory., Policeman or Bin man. Its like saying only Tories catch herpes.. Well that might be true these days I dunno.

It is a vile thing that any normal person just cannot comprehend. These people are sick and not normal. I was semi involved in a similar incident the other week where I was called upon to redirect emails and history and shut down someone who was up to something similar and the profession they were in is actually far worse than a Politician. It was shocking to hear about as these are really trusted people and generally probably good at their jobs and perfectly nice people in their everyday lives. Awful, just awful.
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Posted: 8 July 2020 1:54 PM
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I feel fortunate to have been born with a normal sexual appetite
They didn't choose to have an unhealthy interest in children, and might have thought that looking at pictures was harmless?
I have never seen any real evidence that looking at child porn leads to assaulting children.
Only child molesters trying to use it as an excuse.
Stopping child abuse is difficult because its usually within families who leave no evidence.
Wheras catching people downloading pictures, and never touching children, is easy.
And it gives the authorities an excuse to seize our computers.
But I fear this focus on pictures it is a distraction from stopping those who harm children.
Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG got away with it because he didn't own a computer leaving an easy trail to follow and prove.
Maybe if he had a computer he would have got his satisfaction from child porn instead of children?
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Posted: 8 July 2020 1:59 PM
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Oh and before the virtue signallers say I'm defending child abusers, I am not
Quite the opposite
I want to focus on catching the abusers,
rather than those looking at pictures.
For all I know, if they get their satisfaction from pictures, they might leave the kids alone.
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Posted: 8 July 2020 2:30 PM
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John52 - 2020-07-08 1:54 PM
I feel fortunate to have been born with a normal sexual appetite ………………

That's not what I heard!
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Posted: 8 July 2020 2:39 PM
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Barryd999 - 2020-07-08 8:03 AM

Shock horror!! Politician turns out to be a pervert. Well I never! Thats never happened before has it?


Sorry for posting it Barry ... For some strange reason it looks like me posting about a Labour Minister viewing child porn which included the worst possible type has upset you more than the actual actions of the vile beast ... Mind you do have a rather twisted view of criminality as we all know ... Vandalism , thuggery and violence all just plain old "funny" to you


Oh come on. You got the reaction you were hoping for. Its sickening but you had to turn it around to a snipe at Labour politicians as if they are somehow more likely to be perverts that Tories or Libdems or god forbid, The Brexit party!! Claire Fox anyone?

The thing is someone like this is clearly sick and it makes no difference whether they are a Labour Politician. Tory., Policeman or Bin man. Its like saying only Tories catch herpes.. Well that might be true these days I dunno.

It is a vile thing that any normal person just cannot comprehend. These people are sick and not normal. I was semi involved in a similar incident the other week where I was called upon to redirect emails and history and shut down someone who was up to something similar and the profession they were in is actually far worse than a Politician. It was shocking to hear about as these are really trusted people and generally probably good at their jobs and perfectly nice people in their everyday lives. Awful, just awful.


Barry you are the one going all hysterical that I mentioned his political background which was unfortunately for you part of the story ... Get out of your bedroom and go breathe
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Posted: 8 July 2020 3:11 PM
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Barryd999 - 2020-07-08 8:03 AM

Shock horror!! Politician turns out to be a pervert. Well I never! Thats never happened before has it?



Makes you wonder why the Daily Mail referred to him as an ex Labour shadow- minister and not as an ex Army officer.

Looks like they might be a bit biased politically.

Although of course that fact that he was either, is totally irrelevant to the court case



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Posted: 8 July 2020 4:11 PM
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Barryd999 - 2020-07-08 8:03 AM

Shock horror!! Politician turns out to be a pervert. Well I never! Thats never happened before has it?



Makes you wonder why the Daily Mail referred to him as an ex Labour shadow- minister and not as an ex Army officer.

Looks like they might be a bit biased politically.

Although of course that fact that he was either, is totally irrelevant to the court case


Feeds the op's narrative better than "ex-Army"!

And in typical full on Daily Mail mode describe his lady friends house as a "secluded country property which sits at the end of a 300 yard driveway"....DM reporters on scene must have gone equipped with measuring tape.
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Posted: 8 July 2020 5:03 PM
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Imagine being more upset over the perverts Labour past being mentioned than the sex crimes he's committed ... Wow
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Posted: 8 July 2020 5:08 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-08 5:03 PM

Imagine being more upset over the perverts Labour past being mentioned than the sex crimes he's committed ... Wow


Eh? You were the one that at the top of the thread said "nice lot those Labour types". Why mention that at all if you are wanting to just highlight this vile offence?
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John52 - 2020-07-08 1:59 PM

Oh and before the virtue signallers say I'm defending child abusers, I am not
Quite the opposite
I want to focus on catching the abusers,
rather than those looking at pictures.
For all I know, if they get their satisfaction from pictures, they might leave the kids alone.


Hmm. Most blokes look at porn. Some more than others. There is a member on here with his own Skype Porn channel.

Im pretty sure they dont just look at the pictures and never have sex. Or for most on here maybe used to.

The thing is the abuse has already happened by which ever low life pervert took the video or photos. Those that get satisfaction from watching or viewing child porn are creating a market for it which creates more real abuse.
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Posted: 8 July 2020 5:16 PM
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John52 - 2020-07-08 1:59 PM

Oh and before the virtue signallers say I'm defending child abusers, I am not
Quite the opposite
I want to focus on catching the abusers,
rather than those looking at pictures.
For all I know, if they get their satisfaction from pictures, they might leave the kids alone.


Hmm. Most blokes look at porn. Some more than others. There is a member on here with his own Skype Porn channel.

Im pretty sure they dont just look at the pictures and never have sex. Or for most on here maybe used to.

The thing is the abuse has already happened by which ever low life pervert took the video or photos. Those that get satisfaction from watching or viewing child porn are creating a market for it which creates more real abuse.


Yes some of the stuff this Labour Minister viewed was of the most depraved ... Hopefully by exposing those in the public eye it will make others think about viewing child porn like this Labour Minister did
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Posted: 8 July 2020 5:35 PM
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Imagine being more upset over the perverts Labour past being mentioned than the sex crimes he's committed ... Wow


Eh? You were the one that at the top of the thread said "nice lot those Labour types". Why mention that at all if you are wanting to just highlight this vile offence?

Come on Barry......wake up. Because Joyce was an ex-Labour minister and not Tory and that matters to Antony.

It doesn't take much to google search Tory MP child porn or Tory MP paedos to throw up numerous links.

Here is an article about why 'that side' usually gets buried; https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2019/03/02/why-do-we-never-hear-what-the-tory-party-does-with-its-paedophiles/
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The thing is the abuse has already happened by which ever low life pervert took the video or photos. Those that get satisfaction from watching or viewing child porn are creating a market for it which creates more real abuse.


But what if the pictures were generated without any abuse having taken place?
Or the viewer didn't pay for them?
Most of all - why not go after the child abusers, instead of the one looking at pictures?

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I feel fortunate to have been born with a normal sexual appetite ………………

That's not what I heard!


Well at least its not illegal

Point is we don't know what its like for those unfortunate to be born with an unhealthy interest in children.
Just like the plague of Covid19, it doesn't discriminate and seems to infect some people in all walks of life.
I always try to put myself in the other persons shoes.
If I had been unlucky enough to be born with a sexual interest in children,
I don't know whether I would be able to resist looking at pictures.

Locking people up for looking at pictures is a very poor & lazy substitute for locking up the abusers.
Unfortunately it takes skills and hard work to catch the abusers.
Wheras any lazy fool can just look at what everyone is downloading.

But they still haven't presented any evidence that looking at pictures leads to child abuse
Logically, if they get off on pictures, they won't need real children.
If Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG had downloaded child porn and got off on that, he might have left the kids alone.


Edited by John52 2020-07-08 6:19 PM
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Posted: 8 July 2020 6:17 PM
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Imagine being more upset over the perverts Labour past being mentioned than the sex crimes he's committed ... Wow


Eh? You were the one that at the top of the thread said "nice lot those Labour types". Why mention that at all if you are wanting to just highlight this vile offence?

Come on Barry......wake up. Because Joyce was an ex-Labour minister and not Tory and that matters to Antony.

It doesn't take much to google search Tory MP child porn or Tory MP paedos to throw up numerous links.

Here is an article about why 'that side' usually gets buried; https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2019/03/02/why-do-we-never-hear-what-the-tory-party-does-with-its-paedophiles/


Chuckle ... From the fella who gave us '12 Israeli Youths Arrested Over Gang Rape' ... Hypocrite ... Und its very telling you havent condemned a pervert but instead want to turn the thread into a Labour/Tory pervert battle ... Shame on you
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Posted: 8 July 2020 6:18 PM
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I feel fortunate to have been born with a normal sexual appetite ………………

That's not what I heard!


Well at least its not illegal

Point is we don't know what its like for those unfortunate to be born with an unhealthy interest in children.
Just like the plague of Covid19, it doesn't discriminate and seems to infect some people in all walks of life.
I always try to put myself in the other persons shoes.
If I had been unlucky enough to be born with a sexual interest in children,
I don't know whether I would be able to resist looking at pictures.

Locking people up for looking at pictures is a very poor & lazy substitute for locking up the abusers.
Unfortunately it takes skills and hard work to catch the abusers.
Wheras any lazy fool can just look at what everyone is downloading.

But they still haven't presented any evidence that looking at pictures leads to child abuse
Logically, if they get off on pictures, it might save the children.
If Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG had downloaded child porn and got off on that, he might have left the kids alone.


Is it me or is anyone else disgusted by this fellas attitude towards child porn ... Absolutely shocking
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Posted: 8 July 2020 6:28 PM
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John52 - 2020-07-08 1:54 PM
I feel fortunate to have been born with a normal sexual appetite ………………

That's not what I heard!


Well at least its not illegal

Point is we don't know what its like for those unfortunate to be born with an unhealthy interest in children.
Just like the plague of Covid19, it doesn't discriminate and seems to infect some people in all walks of life.
I always try to put myself in the other persons shoes.
If I had been unlucky enough to be born with a sexual interest in children,
I don't know whether I would be able to resist looking at pictures.

Locking people up for looking at pictures is a very poor & lazy substitute for locking up the abusers.
Unfortunately it takes skills and hard work to catch the abusers.
Wheras any lazy fool can just look at what everyone is downloading.

But they still haven't presented any evidence that looking at pictures leads to child abuse
Logically, if they get off on pictures, it might save the children.
If Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG had downloaded child porn and got off on that, he might have left the kids alone.


Is it me or is anyone else disgusted by this fellas attitude towards child porn ... Absolutely shocking




Have you noticed how those who scream loudest about paedophiles,
so often turn out to have something to hide themselves
Like Ian Huntley - who was on the vigilante mob
No doubt he would have liked all the attention diverted to those downloading pictures, instead of those abusing real children.
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-08 6:18 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2020-07-08 2:30 PM
John52 - 2020-07-08 1:54 PM
I feel fortunate to have been born with a normal sexual appetite ………………

That's not what I heard!

Well at least its not illegal

Point is we don't know what its like for those unfortunate to be born with an unhealthy interest in children.
Just like the plague of Covid19, it doesn't discriminate and seems to infect some people in all walks of life.
I always try to put myself in the other persons shoes.
If I had been unlucky enough to be born with a sexual interest in children,
I don't know whether I would be able to resist looking at pictures.

Locking people up for looking at pictures is a very poor & lazy substitute for locking up the abusers.
Unfortunately it takes skills and hard work to catch the abusers.
Wheras any lazy fool can just look at what everyone is downloading.

But they still haven't presented any evidence that looking at pictures leads to child abuse
Logically, if they get off on pictures, it might save the children.
If Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG had downloaded child porn and got off on that, he might have left the kids alone.

Is it me or is anyone else disgusted by this fellas attitude towards child porn ... Absolutely shocking

At a guess, we all are Antony, its just that we don't all feel the need for such energetic virtue signalling. The really interesting question, is why do the energetic virtue signallers feel that need?

Damn!! John beat me to it by a different route!

Edited by Brian Kirby 2020-07-08 6:33 PM
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Imagine being more upset over the perverts Labour past being mentioned than the sex crimes he's committed ... Wow


Eh? You were the one that at the top of the thread said "nice lot those Labour types". Why mention that at all if you are wanting to just highlight this vile offence?

Come on Barry......wake up. Because Joyce was an ex-Labour minister and not Tory and that matters to Antony.

It doesn't take much to google search Tory MP child porn or Tory MP paedos to throw up numerous links.

Here is an article about why 'that side' usually gets buried; https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2019/03/02/why-do-we-never-hear-what-the-tory-party-does-with-its-paedophiles/


Chuckle ... From the fella who gave us '12 Israeli Youths Arrested Over Gang Rape' ... Hypocrite ... Und its very telling you havent condemned a pervert but instead want to turn the thread into a Labour/Tory pervert battle ... Shame on you

Which they were so there was nothing hypocritical posting the article which, despite your wish, is far from over. You appear to believe Israeli males incapable of rape for no other reason than being Jewish which is just ludicrous. As for Eric Joyce it should go without saying anyone would condemn such actions though you seemed more keen to make a point of his political affiliation, even incorrectly claiming him to be a Labour minister when he had ended his career with them in 2012 and ceased as an Independent MP in 2015 which makes a total nonsense out of your thread title and outrage.

There are plenty of Tory sex perverts......you just prefer to pretend they don't exist.
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John52 - 2020-07-08 1:54 PM
I feel fortunate to have been born with a normal sexual appetite ………………

That's not what I heard!


Well at least its not illegal

Point is we don't know what its like for those unfortunate to be born with an unhealthy interest in children.
Just like the plague of Covid19, it doesn't discriminate and seems to infect some people in all walks of life.
I always try to put myself in the other persons shoes.
If I had been unlucky enough to be born with a sexual interest in children,
I don't know whether I would be able to resist looking at pictures.

Locking people up for looking at pictures is a very poor & lazy substitute for locking up the abusers.
Unfortunately it takes skills and hard work to catch the abusers.
Wheras any lazy fool can just look at what everyone is downloading.

But they still haven't presented any evidence that looking at pictures leads to child abuse
Logically, if they get off on pictures, it might save the children.
If Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG had downloaded child porn and got off on that, he might have left the kids alone.


Is it me or is anyone else disgusted by this fellas attitude towards child porn ... Absolutely shocking




Have you noticed how those who scream loudest about paedophiles, so often turn out to have something to hide themselves.

Quite.
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Mmmm ... Seems like the forums single, live on their own males have gone all defensive and touchy
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Imagine being more upset over the perverts Labour past being mentioned than the sex crimes he's committed ... Wow


Eh? You were the one that at the top of the thread said "nice lot those Labour types". Why mention that at all if you are wanting to just highlight this vile offence?

Come on Barry......wake up. Because Joyce was an ex-Labour minister and not Tory and that matters to Antony.

It doesn't take much to google search Tory MP child porn or Tory MP paedos to throw up numerous links.

Here is an article about why 'that side' usually gets buried; https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2019/03/02/why-do-we-never-hear-what-the-tory-party-does-with-its-paedophiles/


Chuckle ... From the fella who gave us '12 Israeli Youths Arrested Over Gang Rape' ... Hypocrite ... Und its very telling you havent condemned a pervert but instead want to turn the thread into a Labour/Tory pervert battle ... Shame on you

Which they were so there was nothing hypocritical posting the article which, despite your wish, is far from over. You appear to believe Israeli males incapable of rape for no other reason than being Jewish which is just ludicrous. As for Eric Joyce it should go without saying anyone would condemn such actions though you seemed more keen to make a point of his political affiliation, even incorrectly claiming him to be a Labour minister when he had ended his career with them in 2012 and ceased as an Independent MP in 2015 which makes a total nonsense out of your thread title and outrage.

There are plenty of Tory sex perverts......you just prefer to pretend they don't exist.


Mmmm ... I dont know if those "Israelis" you were so keen to post up about are Jewish or not princess , how do you know given all Israelis aren't Jewish ??? ... Fancy being more outraged over me daring to mention his position as a Labour Minister than the actual crime itself ... Lordy
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Even The Bible 2nd word in mentions his Labour background ... https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/07/ex-labour-mp-eric-joyce-faces-jail-after-admitting-child-abuse-image-offence ... Maybe those disgusted at the mention of his Labour background might want to send a letter to the editor of The Guardian and stop their donations ... Wow
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-08 7:29 PM

Mmmm ... Seems like the forums single, live on their own males have gone all defensive and touchy

Of all the paedophiles I have heard of, not one of them was a single male living alone.
Most abuse happens within families, with the father statistically most likely to be the abuser.
So I guess he, and all the other sex offenders who invariably turn out to be part of a couple, would like to divert attention to single males living alone, and those downloading pictures.
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