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I appreciate your thoughts but you have no idea of the conditions and life experiences which lead to migrants taking such financial, emotional and life threatening risks. Try to imagine what might make you want to send young adults from your family on such a journey in order to gain a better life - it's almost impossible to imagine.
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What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark
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fesspark - 2020-07-31 9:03 PM

 

What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark

 

Most of our families fought to keep not just this country free but the entire world, they fought for liberty and freedom for all. WW2 saw people dispersed and refugees everywhere as has war after war after war ever since. People who fought and died in those wars would not want us to turn our backs on those in need. Yes there are economic migrants and chancers just like there have always been but there were eleven million genuine refugees from the Syrian conflict alone. 90% of them ended up in countries outside of the EU, 10% made it to Europe and only a very small percentage ended up here.

 

Those people who died in WW2 did not die in Vain What a ridiculous thing to say, they died for freedom and to rid the world of tyranny, oppression and evil not to turn our backs on those fleeing the same.

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What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark

 

Most of our families fought to keep not just this country free but the entire world, they fought for liberty and freedom for all. WW2 saw people dispersed and refugees everywhere as has war after war after war ever since. People who fought and died in those wars would not want us to turn our backs on those in need. Yes there are economic migrants and chancers just like there have always been but there were eleven million genuine refugees from the Syrian conflict alone. 90% of them ended up in countries outside of the EU, 10% made it to Europe and only a very small percentage ended up here.

 

Those people who died in WW2 did not die in Vain What a ridiculous thing to say, they died for freedom and to rid the world of tyranny, oppression and evil not to turn our backs on those fleeing the same.

Good post, Barry. +1

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What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark

 

Spot on ... Vast majority are fleeing nothing

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fesspark - 2020-07-31 9:03 PM

 

What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark

 

Most of our families fought to keep not just this country free but the entire world, they fought for liberty and freedom for all. WW2 saw people dispersed and refugees everywhere as has war after war after war ever since. People who fought and died in those wars would not want us to turn our backs on those in need. Yes there are economic migrants and chancers just like there have always been but there were eleven million genuine refugees from the Syrian conflict alone. 90% of them ended up in countries outside of the EU, 10% made it to Europe and only a very small percentage ended up here.

 

Those people who died in WW2 did not die in Vain What a ridiculous thing to say, they died for freedom and to rid the world of tyranny, oppression and evil not to turn our backs on those fleeing the same.

 

0% made it to your house ... Even though you preach across many forums ... My Grandad bravely fought in WW2, I can tell you now he didn't fight for chancers and he certainly would have turned his back on those pretending to be in need, dont speak for him !!!

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Birdbrain - 2020-08-02 7:44 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-08-01 5:25 AM

 

fesspark - 2020-07-31 9:03 PM

 

What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark

 

Most of our families fought to keep not just this country free but the entire world, they fought for liberty and freedom for all. WW2 saw people dispersed and refugees everywhere as has war after war after war ever since. People who fought and died in those wars would not want us to turn our backs on those in need. Yes there are economic migrants and chancers just like there have always been but there were eleven million genuine refugees from the Syrian conflict alone. 90% of them ended up in countries outside of the EU, 10% made it to Europe and only a very small percentage ended up here.

 

Those people who died in WW2 did not die in Vain What a ridiculous thing to say, they died for freedom and to rid the world of tyranny, oppression and evil not to turn our backs on those fleeing the same.

 

0% made it to your house ... Even though you preach across many forums ... My Grandad bravely fought in WW2, I can tell you now he didn't fight for chancers and he certainly would have turned his back on those pretending to be in need, dont speak for him !!!

 

LOL! Didnt we just know your opening gambit would be something about "my house"? Did you not read my post correctly? I mentioned chancers and economic migrants but I also mainly talked about "genuine" refugees. I dont think those who fought in wars for our freedom would turn their backs on genuine refugees especially if our war had played a part in destabilising and destroying their countries and homes.

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Barryd999 - 2020-08-02 8:26 AM

 

Birdbrain - 2020-08-02 7:44 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-08-01 5:25 AM

 

fesspark - 2020-07-31 9:03 PM

 

What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark

 

Most of our families fought to keep not just this country free but the entire world, they fought for liberty and freedom for all. WW2 saw people dispersed and refugees everywhere as has war after war after war ever since. People who fought and died in those wars would not want us to turn our backs on those in need. Yes there are economic migrants and chancers just like there have always been but there were eleven million genuine refugees from the Syrian conflict alone. 90% of them ended up in countries outside of the EU, 10% made it to Europe and only a very small percentage ended up here.

 

Those people who died in WW2 did not die in Vain What a ridiculous thing to say, they died for freedom and to rid the world of tyranny, oppression and evil not to turn our backs on those fleeing the same.

 

0% made it to your house ... Even though you preach across many forums ... My Grandad bravely fought in WW2, I can tell you now he didn't fight for chancers and he certainly would have turned his back on those pretending to be in need, dont speak for him !!!

 

LOL! Didnt we just know your opening gambit would be something about "my house"? Did you not read my post correctly? I mentioned chancers and economic migrants but I also mainly talked about "genuine" refugees. I dont think those who fought in wars for our freedom would turn their backs on genuine refugees especially if our war had played a part in destabilising and destroying their countries and homes.

 

I mention it because your a hypocrite, simple as ... Why dont we have boat loads of the worlds most persecuted turning up on our shores anyway ... Christians ??? Young male Christians ???

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Birdbrain - 2020-08-02 9:02 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-08-02 8:26 AM

 

Birdbrain - 2020-08-02 7:44 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-08-01 5:25 AM

 

fesspark - 2020-07-31 9:03 PM

 

What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark

 

Most of our families fought to keep not just this country free but the entire world, they fought for liberty and freedom for all. WW2 saw people dispersed and refugees everywhere as has war after war after war ever since. People who fought and died in those wars would not want us to turn our backs on those in need. Yes there are economic migrants and chancers just like there have always been but there were eleven million genuine refugees from the Syrian conflict alone. 90% of them ended up in countries outside of the EU, 10% made it to Europe and only a very small percentage ended up here.

 

Those people who died in WW2 did not die in Vain What a ridiculous thing to say, they died for freedom and to rid the world of tyranny, oppression and evil not to turn our backs on those fleeing the same.

 

0% made it to your house ... Even though you preach across many forums ... My Grandad bravely fought in WW2, I can tell you now he didn't fight for chancers and he certainly would have turned his back on those pretending to be in need, dont speak for him !!!

 

LOL! Didnt we just know your opening gambit would be something about "my house"? Did you not read my post correctly? I mentioned chancers and economic migrants but I also mainly talked about "genuine" refugees. I dont think those who fought in wars for our freedom would turn their backs on genuine refugees especially if our war had played a part in destabilising and destroying their countries and homes.

 

I mention it because your a hypocrite, simple as ... Why dont we have boat loads of the worlds most persecuted turning up on our shores anyway ... Christians ??? Young male Christians ???

 

I dont know. Have there been 11 million Christians fleeing war zones recently? If so then we should do our bit to help them but Ive not seen any have you?

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Barryd999 - 2020-08-01 5:25 AM

 

fesspark - 2020-07-31 9:03 PM

 

What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark

 

Most of our families fought to keep not just this country free but the entire world, they fought for liberty and freedom for all. WW2 saw people dispersed and refugees everywhere as has war after war after war ever since. People who fought and died in those wars would not want us to turn our backs on those in need. Yes there are economic migrants and chancers just like there have always been but there were eleven million genuine refugees from the Syrian conflict alone. 90% of them ended up in countries outside of the EU, 10% made it to Europe and only a very small percentage ended up here.

 

Those people who died in WW2 did not die in Vain What a ridiculous thing to say, they died for freedom and to rid the world of tyranny, oppression and evil not to turn our backs on those fleeing the same.

 

But the majority aren't fleeing the same are they? *-) ..........

 

Coz if you were genuinely fleeing a war zone you'd be happy to seek asylum in the first safe haven you arrived in would you not??? :-| ........

 

Time to wake up Barry......they're mostly economic migrants seeking to milk the British taxpayer >:-( .......

 

The sooner we are no longer subject to EU rules the sooner we can rewrite the rule book B-) .........

 

 

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fesspark - 2020-07-31 9:03 PM

 

What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark

 

Most of our families fought to keep not just this country free but the entire world, they fought for liberty and freedom for all. WW2 saw people dispersed and refugees everywhere as has war after war after war ever since. People who fought and died in those wars would not want us to turn our backs on those in need. Yes there are economic migrants and chancers just like there have always been but there were eleven million genuine refugees from the Syrian conflict alone. 90% of them ended up in countries outside of the EU, 10% made it to Europe and only a very small percentage ended up here.

 

Those people who died in WW2 did not die in Vain What a ridiculous thing to say, they died for freedom and to rid the world of tyranny, oppression and evil not to turn our backs on those fleeing the same.

 

But the majority aren't fleeing the same are they? *-) ..........

 

Coz if you were genuinely fleeing a war zone you'd be happy to seek asylum in the first safe haven you arrived in would you not??? :-| ........

 

Time to wake up Barry......they're mostly economic migrants seeking to milk the British taxpayer >:-( .......

 

The sooner we are no longer subject to EU rules the sooner we can rewrite the rule book B-) .........

 

 

Most asylum seekers do settle in other countries rather than coming here and about half are rejected anyway. So maybe they do sort out the chancers from the genuine.

 

If you think leaving the EU will stop them then you are crackers. It wont stop them anymore than it will stop the tide coming in each day. We will just have less cooperation and information sharing with Europe and without the Dublin agreement no possibility of returning them to France. It already looks like the French have started turning a blind eye. I dont blame them. We chose to cut our ties with them and go our own way, Brexit will no doubt cause them a lot of economic hardship. I wouldnt be surprised if they start dishing out rubber boats.

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Barryd999 - 2020-08-02 10:12 AM

 

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Barryd999 - 2020-08-01 5:25 AM

 

fesspark - 2020-07-31 9:03 PM

 

What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark

 

Most of our families fought to keep not just this country free but the entire world, they fought for liberty and freedom for all. WW2 saw people dispersed and refugees everywhere as has war after war after war ever since. People who fought and died in those wars would not want us to turn our backs on those in need. Yes there are economic migrants and chancers just like there have always been but there were eleven million genuine refugees from the Syrian conflict alone. 90% of them ended up in countries outside of the EU, 10% made it to Europe and only a very small percentage ended up here.

 

Those people who died in WW2 did not die in Vain What a ridiculous thing to say, they died for freedom and to rid the world of tyranny, oppression and evil not to turn our backs on those fleeing the same.

 

But the majority aren't fleeing the same are they? *-) ..........

 

Coz if you were genuinely fleeing a war zone you'd be happy to seek asylum in the first safe haven you arrived in would you not??? :-| ........

 

Time to wake up Barry......they're mostly economic migrants seeking to milk the British taxpayer >:-( .......

 

The sooner we are no longer subject to EU rules the sooner we can rewrite the rule book B-) .........

 

 

Most asylum seekers do settle in other countries rather than coming here and about half are rejected anyway. So maybe they do sort out the chancers from the genuine.

 

If you think leaving the EU will stop them then you are crackers. It wont stop them anymore than it will stop the tide coming in each day. We will just have less cooperation and information sharing with Europe and without the Dublin agreement no possibility of returning them to France. It already looks like the French have started turning a blind eye. I dont blame them. We chose to cut our ties with them and go our own way, Brexit will no doubt cause them a lot of economic hardship. I wouldnt be surprised if they start dishing out rubber boats.

 

Once we can make our own rules and start sending them home pronto will be the most effective deterent B-) .........

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pelmetman - 2020-08-02 9:48 AM

 

Barryd999 - 2020-08-01 5:25 AM

 

fesspark - 2020-07-31 9:03 PM

 

What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark

 

Most of our families fought to keep not just this country free but the entire world, they fought for liberty and freedom for all. WW2 saw people dispersed and refugees everywhere as has war after war after war ever since. People who fought and died in those wars would not want us to turn our backs on those in need. Yes there are economic migrants and chancers just like there have always been but there were eleven million genuine refugees from the Syrian conflict alone. 90% of them ended up in countries outside of the EU, 10% made it to Europe and only a very small percentage ended up here.

 

Those people who died in WW2 did not die in Vain What a ridiculous thing to say, they died for freedom and to rid the world of tyranny, oppression and evil not to turn our backs on those fleeing the same.

 

But the majority aren't fleeing the same are they? *-) ..........

 

Coz if you were genuinely fleeing a war zone you'd be happy to seek asylum in the first safe haven you arrived in would you not??? :-| ........

 

Time to wake up Barry......they're mostly economic migrants seeking to milk the British taxpayer >:-( .......

 

The sooner we are no longer subject to EU rules the sooner we can rewrite the rule book B-) .........

 

 

Most asylum seekers do settle in other countries rather than coming here and about half are rejected anyway. So maybe they do sort out the chancers from the genuine.

 

If you think leaving the EU will stop them then you are crackers. It wont stop them anymore than it will stop the tide coming in each day. We will just have less cooperation and information sharing with Europe and without the Dublin agreement no possibility of returning them to France. It already looks like the French have started turning a blind eye. I dont blame them. We chose to cut our ties with them and go our own way, Brexit will no doubt cause them a lot of economic hardship. I wouldnt be surprised if they start dishing out rubber boats.

 

Once we can make our own rules and start sending them home pronto will be the most effective deterent B-) .........

 

We do send them home now, if we know where home is. Where you going to send them if you cant prove where they are from? Right now we can send them back to France.

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John52 - 2020-08-02 12:30 PM

 

should we be more concerned about the migrants going the other way?

The smart ones we need emigrating to the EU :-(

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/02/brexit-fuels-brain-drain-as-skilled-britons-head-to-the-eu

Can't blame folk for going where work and lifestyle is an improvement than what the Brexit banana republic will bring.

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What planet do you live on,?I spent 6 yrs in the commando marines these people are purely financial migrants. they where there when I was in the gulf and when I have spent the last 35 years in europe seeing these people wanting to come to the u.k. for health and financial benefits pee.s me off. if you wish the worlds scroungers to live here?we have them already in the high risk coronavirus areas that are now in lock down My family fought and died to keep this country free but alas the latest migrant figures proves to me they died mostly in Vane. forgive my spelling but this statement from you annoys me, p.s, I am not a racialist just a realist ,fesspark

 

 

 

 

Most of our families fought to keep not just this country free but the entire world, they fought for liberty and freedom for all. WW2 saw people dispersed and refugees everywhere as has war after war after war ever since. People who fought and died in those wars would not want us to turn our backs on those in need. Yes there are economic migrants and chancers just like there have always been but there were eleven million genuine refugees from the Syrian conflict alone. 90% of them ended up in countries outside of the EU, 10% made it to Europe and only a very small percentage ended up here.

 

Those people who died in WW2 did not die in Vain What a ridiculous thing to say, they died for freedom and to rid the world of tyranny, oppression and evil not to turn our backs on those fleeing the same.

 

But the majority aren't fleeing the same are they? *-) ..........

 

Coz if you were genuinely fleeing a war zone you'd be happy to seek asylum in the first safe haven you arrived in would you not??? :-| ........

 

Time to wake up Barry......they're mostly economic migrants seeking to milk the British taxpayer >:-( .......

 

The sooner we are no longer subject to EU rules the sooner we can rewrite the rule book B-) .........

 

 

The “rule book” on refugee status is not dictated by the EU Dave. The EU issued a Qualification Directive regarding how EU countries were obliged to treat asylum claimants in order to bring all EU countries into line regarding their obligations under the Refugee and Human Rights Treaties of 1951 and 1950 respectively. When we have left the EU we are still bound to abide by the obligations under both treaties. Withdrawing from both treaties would be required before we can rewrite “the rule book”. In particular, the European Convention on Human Rights, (the one that controversially prevents us from sending dangerous people back to countries where they would face torture) would still apply to the UK. Anyone aggrieved by an adverse decision to return them to such a country could still bring a case against the UK before the European Court of Human Rights if all domestic remedies have been against them. I very much doubt that the withdrawal from either or both treaties is something we will see in our life time.

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Hmmm. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1184429/eu-migrant-crisis-french-police-calais-dunkirk-emmanuel-macron-english-channel-lbc

 

and more recently.

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/12132899/french-migrants-crossing-channel-priti-patel/

 

I wonder what it is that has upset the French so much in recent times. They used to be so good at stopping migrants getting to the UK. Cruella says summat must be done and is stamping her feet about it. Best you send em all back Cruella before the 31st December while you still can.

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Barryd999 - 2020-08-07 9:20 AM

 

Hmmm. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1184429/eu-migrant-crisis-french-police-calais-dunkirk-emmanuel-macron-english-channel-lbc

 

and more recently.

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/12132899/french-migrants-crossing-channel-priti-patel/

 

I wonder what it is that has upset the French so much in recent times. They used to be so good at stopping migrants getting to the UK. Cruella says summat must be done and is stamping her feet about it. Best you send em all back Cruella before the 31st December while you still can.

 

Only 146 days until we can tear up the EU migrant rule book ;-) ..........

 

http://daystobrexit.co.uk/

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Barryd999 - 2020-08-07 9:20 AM

 

Hmmm. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1184429/eu-migrant-crisis-french-police-calais-dunkirk-emmanuel-macron-english-channel-lbc

 

and more recently.

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/12132899/french-migrants-crossing-channel-priti-patel/

 

I wonder what it is that has upset the French so much in recent times. They used to be so good at stopping migrants getting to the UK. Cruella says summat must be done and is stamping her feet about it. Best you send em all back Cruella before the 31st December while you still can.

 

Only 146 days until we can tear up the EU migrant rule book ;-) ..........

 

http://daystobrexit.co.uk/

 

And not be allowed to send them back to France. *-) FFS! Its like talking to a Goldfish.

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Priti keeps talking about tightening up the rules. Either she is thick or entirely disingenuous, from what I hear she's not the former. It's not the rules that have prevented us returning people to the first European place of safety in which they landed, it's a lack of investment in border controls. The Dublin agreements have resulted more people being returned to the UK than we send back to European Countries, that tells you something does it not? And as Barry has tried to point out on several occasions, Brexit will mean that more unworthy illegal migrants will be staying in the UK once they land here. No wonder the French don't seem to be making a real effort to stop them. Many cannot be returned to their country of origin a. because that is often difficult to establish and/or b. the countries they come from are not co-operating with return processes, many of them being failed states, or they are anitpathetic towards the UK.

 

I think Dave gets it really but he's doing a "Priti".

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Violet1956 - 2020-08-07 11:56 AM

 

Priti keeps talking about tightening up the rules. Either she is thick or entirely disingenuous, from what I hear she's not the former. It's not the rules that have prevented us returning people to the first European place of safety in which they landed, it's a lack of investment in border controls. The Dublin agreements have resulted more people being returned to the UK than we send back to European Countries, that tells you something does it not? And as Barry has tried to point out on several occasions, Brexit will mean that more unworthy illegal migrants will be staying in the UK once they land here. No wonder the French don't seem to be making a real effort to stop them. Many cannot be returned to their country of origin a. because that is often difficult to establish and/or b. the countries they come from are not co-operating with return processes, many of them being failed states, or they are anitpathetic towards the UK.

 

I think Dave gets it really but he's doing a "Priti".

 

But but Brexit!!! Brexit was supposed to stop all this!! Mr Farage said so. He even did that "Breaking Point" poster! Now he is making videos every day of dinghies and stuff arriving! Whats going on? Why hasnt it all stopped? I wonder if he will still make them after the 31st December? I suspect not somehow.

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