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pelmetman - 2019-12-17 7:47 AM

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7799099/Boris-Johnsons-Brexit-ultimatum-Transition-period-end-December-2020.html

 

That'll have our resident Loser Brigade members choking on their morning muesli (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

 

Actually we losers are enjoying your tax money that BoJo is giving us to buy our votes. :D

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN04033

In 2018/19, public spending per person in the UK as a whole was £9,584. In England, it was £9,296 (3% below the UK average). This compares with:

 

Scotland: £11,247 (17% above the UK average) :D

Wales: £10,656 (11% above the UK average)

Northern Ireland £11,590 (21% above the UK average).

 

 

Oh and if you think Brexit will be 'done' with any time soon ........ *-)

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John52 - 2019-12-17 7:59 AM

 

pelmetman - 2019-12-17 7:47 AM

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7799099/Boris-Johnsons-Brexit-ultimatum-Transition-period-end-December-2020.html

 

That'll have our resident Loser Brigade members choking on their morning muesli (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

 

Actually we losers are enjoying your tax money that BoJo is giving us to buy our votes. :D

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN04033

In 2018/19, public spending per person in the UK as a whole was £9,584. In England, it was £9,296 (3% below the UK average). This compares with:

 

Scotland: £11,247 (17% above the UK average) :D

Wales: £10,656 (11% above the UK average)

Northern Ireland £11,590 (21% above the UK average).

 

 

Oh and if you think Brexit will be 'done' with any time soon ........ *-)

 

We WILL leave the EU in 45 days time and the transition period WILL end on the 31st December 2020 B-) ......

 

With or without a deal >:-) ..........

 

Remember that No Deal you lot kept saying you had killed off? (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

 

 

 

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pelmetman - 2019-12-17 8:08 AM

 

John52 - 2019-12-17 7:59 AM

 

pelmetman - 2019-12-17 7:47 AM

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7799099/Boris-Johnsons-Brexit-ultimatum-Transition-period-end-December-2020.html

 

That'll have our resident Loser Brigade members choking on their morning muesli (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

 

Actually we losers are enjoying your tax money that BoJo is giving us to buy our votes. :D

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN04033

In 2018/19, public spending per person in the UK as a whole was £9,584. In England, it was £9,296 (3% below the UK average). This compares with:

 

Scotland: £11,247 (17% above the UK average) :D

Wales: £10,656 (11% above the UK average)

Northern Ireland £11,590 (21% above the UK average).

 

 

Oh and if you think Brexit will be 'done' with any time soon ........ *-)

 

We WILL leave the EU in 45 days time and the transition period WILL end on the 31st December 2020 B-) ......

 

With or without a deal >:-) ..........

 

Remember that No Deal you lot kept saying you had killed off? (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

 

 

 

Well if I kept saying it you should be able to quote at least one post where I said it *-)

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In reality there will have to be deals of one sort or another.

If BoJo throws a tantrum and leaves without one, his pooper scoopers will have to do the best they can when we no longer have a seat at the table or any power within the EU that brings.

How long will it take you to realise the combined 27 countries of the EU are stronger than the UK - one country which is only held together by BoJo's England buying votes from Scotland/Wales/NI with your increasingly borrowed money?

PS: And with BoJo still evading a referendum on his bum deal because, despite buying our votes with your money, he still only has a minority of the vote >:-)

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John52 - 2019-12-17 8:23 AM

 

pelmetman - 2019-12-17 8:08 AM

 

John52 - 2019-12-17 7:59 AM

 

pelmetman - 2019-12-17 7:47 AM

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7799099/Boris-Johnsons-Brexit-ultimatum-Transition-period-end-December-2020.html

 

That'll have our resident Loser Brigade members choking on their morning muesli (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

 

Actually we losers are enjoying your tax money that BoJo is giving us to buy our votes. :D

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN04033

In 2018/19, public spending per person in the UK as a whole was £9,584. In England, it was £9,296 (3% below the UK average). This compares with:

 

Scotland: £11,247 (17% above the UK average) :D

Wales: £10,656 (11% above the UK average)

Northern Ireland £11,590 (21% above the UK average).

 

 

Oh and if you think Brexit will be 'done' with any time soon ........ *-)

 

We WILL leave the EU in 45 days time and the transition period WILL end on the 31st December 2020 B-) ......

 

With or without a deal >:-) ..........

 

Remember that No Deal you lot kept saying you had killed off? (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

 

 

 

Well if I kept saying it you should be able to quote at least one post where I said it *-)

 

I said "lot"........... as in the majority of our resident Loser Brigade ;-) ..........

 

 

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John52 - 2019-12-17 8:30 AM

 

In reality there will have to be deals of one sort or another.

If BoJo throws a tantrum and leaves without one, his pooper scoopers will have to do the best they can when we no longer have a seat at the table or any power within the EU that brings.

How long will it take you to realise the combined 27 countries of the EU are stronger than the UK - one country which is only held together by BoJo's England buying votes from Scotland/Wales/NI with your increasingly borrowed money?

 

So the EU who has just 9 countries who are supporting the other 18 with 100's of millions sponging of them ;-) ..........

 

Is better off than the UK who is only subsidizing just 5.4 million? 8-) ..........

 

Best get your Diane Abbotcus out to see if you can make your figures add up (lol) (lol) (lol) ........

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pelmetman - 2019-12-17 8:41 AM

 

 

Best get your Diane Abbotcus out to see if you can make your figures add up (lol) (lol) (lol) ........

Diane Abbot has got nothing on the Mad Hatter :D

Just look at the National Debt Clock above to see your figures adding up 8-)

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pelmetman - 2019-12-17 9:44 AM

 

Birdbrain - 2019-12-17 9:27 AM

 

"No deal is dead" !!!

 

Isn't that what our Barry kept telling us? ;-) ...........

 

 

Aye good old Barry ... Misinformation Man strikes again ... Someone ought to publish a book filled with Barrys predictions ... We could call it 'Put Your Money On The Other Fella' ... I put £100 on The Tories winning the election as soon Barry guffed up with his Labour Government claim , looks like its guna pay off nicely ... Cheers Barry ... Again

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This is actually good news. It could of course just be more of Johnsons chest puffing but if he really is going to go all hard brexit bonkers and pull us out "do or die" in December 2020 without a deal probably at least it will be quick as will the realisation that Brexit was a massive mistake and we can get on with the campaign to rejoin. It will cause the maximum amount of damage of course rather than it dragging on for years and years and a slow demise but I reckon thats preferable.

 

Of course he could be bluffing. Thats the problem with Johnson you just cannot trust anything he says.

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Barryd999 - 2019-12-17 12:51 PM

 

This is actually good news. It could of course just be more of Johnsons chest puffing but if he really is going to go all hard brexit bonkers and pull us out "do or die" in December 2020 without a deal probably at least it will be quick as will the realisation that Brexit was a massive mistake and we can get on with the campaign to rejoin. It will cause the maximum amount of damage of course rather than it dragging on for years and years and a slow demise but I reckon thats preferable.

 

Of course he could be bluffing. Thats the problem with Johnson you just cannot trust anything he says.

 

I think Boris is far more believable.........As according to you Remoaners ;-) .........

 

We should be 3 years into a deep recession and have 860,000 job loses by now (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

 

 

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Adler on Twitter

 

EU views Johnson’s intention to legislate end date of Dec 2020 on EU-UK trade negotiations as sabre rattling. PM broke his key red line line of avoiding post #Brexit division between GB and NIreland in divorce deal. EU expects he’ll eventually back down in trade talks too

 

EU is massive trading power on world stage so Brussels believe it holds most of the cards in negotiations. Clearly EU will have to compromise too. It’s insistence the UK ‘can only have off the shelf agreement’ ie a copy of its deals with Japan/ Canada is unrealistic

 

UK is different: bigger, closer. EU knows this but expectation in Brussels is that by far the bigger compromises will be made by UK and the faster Johnson insists on getting the trade deal done, the more the EU will try to use his self-imposed time constraint against him

 

Again those who cry: « You’ve all said that before. You said Johnson couldnt get a new Brexit deal in a hurry and he did » Answer: Yes but only after EU saw he was willing to break a big red line - allowing a customs border down the Irish Sea, addressing EU’s biggest concern

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Fast Pat - 2019-12-17 1:39 PM

 

Adler on Twitter

 

EU views Johnson’s intention to legislate end date of Dec 2020 on EU-UK trade negotiations as sabre rattling. PM broke his key red line line of avoiding post #Brexit division between GB and NIreland in divorce deal. EU expects he’ll eventually back down in trade talks too

 

EU is massive trading power on world stage so Brussels believe it holds most of the cards in negotiations. Clearly EU will have to compromise too. It’s insistence the UK ‘can only have off the shelf agreement’ ie a copy of its deals with Japan/ Canada is unrealistic

 

UK is different: bigger, closer. EU knows this but expectation in Brussels is that by far the bigger compromises will be made by UK and the faster Johnson insists on getting the trade deal done, the more the EU will try to use his self-imposed time constraint against him

 

Again those who cry: « You’ve all said that before. You said Johnson couldnt get a new Brexit deal in a hurry and he did » Answer: Yes but only after EU saw he was willing to break a big red line - allowing a customs border down the Irish Sea, addressing EU’s biggest concern

 

Well they would say that wouldn't they? *-) .........

 

Another 12 months of the EU going down the pan whilst Britain enjoys the Brexit bounce should help focus minds in Brussels >:-) ..........

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1218218/eurozone-EU-economy-german-economy-eu-brussels-angela-merkel-brexit

 

 

 

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pelmetman - 2019-12-17 1:42 PM

 

Fast Pat - 2019-12-17 1:39 PM

 

Adler on Twitter

 

EU views Johnson’s intention to legislate end date of Dec 2020 on EU-UK trade negotiations as sabre rattling. PM broke his key red line line of avoiding post #Brexit division between GB and NIreland in divorce deal. EU expects he’ll eventually back down in trade talks too

 

EU is massive trading power on world stage so Brussels believe it holds most of the cards in negotiations. Clearly EU will have to compromise too. It’s insistence the UK ‘can only have off the shelf agreement’ ie a copy of its deals with Japan/ Canada is unrealistic

 

UK is different: bigger, closer. EU knows this but expectation in Brussels is that by far the bigger compromises will be made by UK and the faster Johnson insists on getting the trade deal done, the more the EU will try to use his self-imposed time constraint against him

 

Again those who cry: « You’ve all said that before. You said Johnson couldnt get a new Brexit deal in a hurry and he did » Answer: Yes but only after EU saw he was willing to break a big red line - allowing a customs border down the Irish Sea, addressing EU’s biggest concern

 

Well they would say that wouldn't they? *-) .........

 

Another 12 months of the EU going down the pan whilst Britain enjoys the Brexit bounce should help focus minds in Brussels >:-) ..........

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1218218/eurozone-EU-economy-german-economy-eu-brussels-angela-merkel-brexit

 

 

 

I know you don't do details, but even the BBC are now calling out Doris's "deal" for what it is. This is the nuance that was missing. People said he couldn't get a deal as the red lines made it impossible. Anyone can get any deal over the line of you are willing to capitulate enough. I could sell a new Ferrari to an unemployed teenager if I was willing to do it for a tenner.

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Fast Pat - 2019-12-17 1:59 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-12-17 1:42 PM

 

Fast Pat - 2019-12-17 1:39 PM

 

Adler on Twitter

 

EU views Johnson’s intention to legislate end date of Dec 2020 on EU-UK trade negotiations as sabre rattling. PM broke his key red line line of avoiding post #Brexit division between GB and NIreland in divorce deal. EU expects he’ll eventually back down in trade talks too

 

EU is massive trading power on world stage so Brussels believe it holds most of the cards in negotiations. Clearly EU will have to compromise too. It’s insistence the UK ‘can only have off the shelf agreement’ ie a copy of its deals with Japan/ Canada is unrealistic

 

UK is different: bigger, closer. EU knows this but expectation in Brussels is that by far the bigger compromises will be made by UK and the faster Johnson insists on getting the trade deal done, the more the EU will try to use his self-imposed time constraint against him

 

Again those who cry: « You’ve all said that before. You said Johnson couldnt get a new Brexit deal in a hurry and he did » Answer: Yes but only after EU saw he was willing to break a big red line - allowing a customs border down the Irish Sea, addressing EU’s biggest concern

 

Well they would say that wouldn't they? *-) .........

 

Another 12 months of the EU going down the pan whilst Britain enjoys the Brexit bounce should help focus minds in Brussels >:-) ..........

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1218218/eurozone-EU-economy-german-economy-eu-brussels-angela-merkel-brexit

 

 

 

I know you don't do details, but even the BBC are now calling out Doris's "deal" for what it is. This is the nuance that was missing. People said he couldn't get a deal as the red lines made it impossible. Anyone can get any deal over the line of you are willing to capitulate enough. I could sell a new Ferrari to an unemployed teenager if I was willing to do it for a tenner.

 

You forget ;-) ..........

 

Boris no longer has to kowtow to the DUP or anyone with a 80 seat majority (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

And the EU know it >:-) ..........

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pelmetman - 2019-12-17 2:10 PM

 

Fast Pat - 2019-12-17 1:59 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-12-17 1:42 PM

 

Fast Pat - 2019-12-17 1:39 PM

 

Adler on Twitter

 

EU views Johnson’s intention to legislate end date of Dec 2020 on EU-UK trade negotiations as sabre rattling. PM broke his key red line line of avoiding post #Brexit division between GB and NIreland in divorce deal. EU expects he’ll eventually back down in trade talks too

 

EU is massive trading power on world stage so Brussels believe it holds most of the cards in negotiations. Clearly EU will have to compromise too. It’s insistence the UK ‘can only have off the shelf agreement’ ie a copy of its deals with Japan/ Canada is unrealistic

 

UK is different: bigger, closer. EU knows this but expectation in Brussels is that by far the bigger compromises will be made by UK and the faster Johnson insists on getting the trade deal done, the more the EU will try to use his self-imposed time constraint against him

 

Again those who cry: « You’ve all said that before. You said Johnson couldnt get a new Brexit deal in a hurry and he did » Answer: Yes but only after EU saw he was willing to break a big red line - allowing a customs border down the Irish Sea, addressing EU’s biggest concern

 

Well they would say that wouldn't they? *-) .........

 

Another 12 months of the EU going down the pan whilst Britain enjoys the Brexit bounce should help focus minds in Brussels >:-) ..........

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1218218/eurozone-EU-economy-german-economy-eu-brussels-angela-merkel-brexit

 

 

 

I know you don't do details, but even the BBC are now calling out Doris's "deal" for what it is. This is the nuance that was missing. People said he couldn't get a deal as the red lines made it impossible. Anyone can get any deal over the line of you are willing to capitulate enough. I could sell a new Ferrari to an unemployed teenager if I was willing to do it for a tenner.

 

You forget ;-) ..........

 

Boris no longer has to kowtow to the DUP or anyone with a 80 seat majority (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

And the EU know it >:-) ..........

 

How does that change the fact that his deal , was basically a capitulation to the EU?

 

He actually sold out the DUP last time.

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pelmetman - 2019-12-17 2:10 PM

 

Boris no longer has to kowtow to the DUP or anyone with a 80 seat majority (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

.....

 

BoJo won't want to go down in History as the PM who broke up the UK, and wants Faslane & Balmoral at any price :D

So will keep sending me your money :D

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Fast Pat - 2019-12-17 2:21 PM

 

How does that change the fact that his deal , was basically a capitulation to the EU?

 

He actually sold out the DUP last time.

Because its BoJo the Daily Mail will present his bum deal as a great success, and his supporters won't know any different :-S

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pelmetman - 2019-12-17 1:38 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2019-12-17 12:51 PM

 

This is actually good news. It could of course just be more of Johnsons chest puffing but if he really is going to go all hard brexit bonkers and pull us out "do or die" in December 2020 without a deal probably at least it will be quick as will the realisation that Brexit was a massive mistake and we can get on with the campaign to rejoin. It will cause the maximum amount of damage of course rather than it dragging on for years and years and a slow demise but I reckon thats preferable.

 

Of course he could be bluffing. Thats the problem with Johnson you just cannot trust anything he says.

 

I think Boris is far more believable.........As according to you Remoaners ;-) .........

 

We should be 3 years into a deep recession and have 860,000 job loses by now (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

 

 

How many more times do you have to be told we are still in the EU *-)

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John52 - 2019-12-17 2:59 PM

 

pelmetman - 2019-12-17 1:38 PM

 

Barryd999 - 2019-12-17 12:51 PM

 

This is actually good news. It could of course just be more of Johnsons chest puffing but if he really is going to go all hard brexit bonkers and pull us out "do or die" in December 2020 without a deal probably at least it will be quick as will the realisation that Brexit was a massive mistake and we can get on with the campaign to rejoin. It will cause the maximum amount of damage of course rather than it dragging on for years and years and a slow demise but I reckon thats preferable.

 

Of course he could be bluffing. Thats the problem with Johnson you just cannot trust anything he says.

 

I think Boris is far more believable.........As according to you Remoaners ;-) .........

 

We should be 3 years into a deep recession and have 860,000 job loses by now (lol) (lol) (lol) .........

 

 

How many more times do you have to be told we are still in the EU *-)

 

How many times do I have to remind you what Osborne said *-) ..........

 

"Chancellor George Osborne says.

 

Publishing Treasury analysis, he said a Leave vote would cause an "immediate and profound" economic shock, with growth between 3% and 6% lower."

 

Which bit of "immediate" are you struggling to understand (lol) (lol) (lol) ........

 

 

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