Birdbrain Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Yup ... Got to agree it makes sense ... ... KAGA ... Actually no I dont agree cut a good 80% of that foreign aid budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Agree about HS2 but if they want any kind of deal with the EU then they will have to cough up something. It was never going to be in a lump sum anyway. Brexiteers now tell us its not all about the money and economy but they seem pretty obsessed with that £39bn which is odd as Brexit has already cost us nearly twice that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 6:55 PM Agree about HS2 but if they want any kind of deal with the EU then they will have to cough up something. It was never going to be in a lump sum anyway. Brexiteers now tell us its not all about the money and economy but they seem pretty obsessed with that £39bn which is odd as Brexit has already cost us nearly twice that much. Wrong princess ... Brexit UNCERTAINTY caused by treacherous MPs may have cost us the figure you claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1) Johnson doesn't like HS2 because part is in his back yard. He promised to lie in front of a bulldozer if runway 3 at Heathrow went ahead. It is now, so Johnson ran off on an overseas jolly the day his govt voted to give it the green light, so i wouldn't pin much hope on Johnson being around to lie in front of an express train if HS2 goes ahead. 2) If UK reneges on it's obligations to pay it's debts then it will be seen as a major credit risk by other countries. Who the hell is going to lend to a defaulter. IMF again? 3) For that to happen UK would need cut it's GNI and no country would be mad enough to do that.....not even UK. We've only ever met the miniscule target of 0.7% once in 45 years anyway which government finally made law four years ago. Much fuss about crumbs for the poor as usual. https://fullfact.org/economy/uk-spending-foreign-aid/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 Nope ... I was wrong ... Looks like nearly every other thread he takes part in it is a Boris hate thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-06-30 7:09 PM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 6:55 PM Agree about HS2 but if they want any kind of deal with the EU then they will have to cough up something. It was never going to be in a lump sum anyway. Brexiteers now tell us its not all about the money and economy but they seem pretty obsessed with that £39bn which is odd as Brexit has already cost us nearly twice that much. Wrong princess ... Brexit UNCERTAINTY caused by treacherous MPs may have cost us the figure you claim Bollox. Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit. If we had not decided to leave the EU we would have been £66bn better off by now and counting. There was always going to be a two year countdown and the economy went on the slide on day one. You are to blame, it is all your fault. (just you nobody else). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 9:38 PM Birdbrain - 2019-06-30 7:09 PM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 6:55 PM Agree about HS2 but if they want any kind of deal with the EU then they will have to cough up something. It was never going to be in a lump sum anyway. Brexiteers now tell us its not all about the money and economy but they seem pretty obsessed with that £39bn which is odd as Brexit has already cost us nearly twice that much. Wrong princess ... Brexit UNCERTAINTY caused by treacherous MPs may have cost us the figure you claim Bollox. Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit. If we had not decided to leave the EU we would have been £66bn better off by now and counting. There was always going to be a two year countdown and the economy went on the slide on day one. You are to blame, it is all your fault. (just you nobody else). Of course Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit but Brexit uncertainty couldn't have happened without treacherous Remoaner MPs who went against everything they had voted for could it ... Take your anger out on them ... I thought you didn't give a t%ss anymore anyway , that angry word B%llox suggests otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-07-01 6:16 AM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 9:38 PM Birdbrain - 2019-06-30 7:09 PM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 6:55 PM Agree about HS2 but if they want any kind of deal with the EU then they will have to cough up something. It was never going to be in a lump sum anyway. Brexiteers now tell us its not all about the money and economy but they seem pretty obsessed with that £39bn which is odd as Brexit has already cost us nearly twice that much. Wrong princess ... Brexit UNCERTAINTY caused by treacherous MPs may have cost us the figure you claim Bollox. Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit. If we had not decided to leave the EU we would have been £66bn better off by now and counting. There was always going to be a two year countdown and the economy went on the slide on day one. You are to blame, it is all your fault. (just you nobody else). Of course Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit but Brexit uncertainty couldn't have happened without treacherous Remoaner MPs who went against everything they had voted for could it ... Take your anger out on them ... I thought you didn't give a t%ss anymore anyway , that angry word B%llox suggests otherwise The Brexiteer leaders promised us a deal, they promised us the easiest deal in history and they won the referendum (just). Of course the polys had to go ahead and vote to invoke article 50 but they did so based on those promises. They never voted to crash out so the goal posts have changed. If the Brexiteers had campaigned honestly and said there wont be a deal and we are just leaving with no transition period you might have a point but they didnt do that did they so of course politicians will change their stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-07-01 11:14 AM Birdbrain - 2019-07-01 6:16 AM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 9:38 PM Birdbrain - 2019-06-30 7:09 PM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 6:55 PM Agree about HS2 but if they want any kind of deal with the EU then they will have to cough up something. It was never going to be in a lump sum anyway. Brexiteers now tell us its not all about the money and economy but they seem pretty obsessed with that £39bn which is odd as Brexit has already cost us nearly twice that much. Wrong princess ... Brexit UNCERTAINTY caused by treacherous MPs may have cost us the figure you claim Bollox. Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit. If we had not decided to leave the EU we would have been £66bn better off by now and counting. There was always going to be a two year countdown and the economy went on the slide on day one. You are to blame, it is all your fault. (just you nobody else). Of course Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit but Brexit uncertainty couldn't have happened without treacherous Remoaner MPs who went against everything they had voted for could it ... Take your anger out on them ... I thought you didn't give a t%ss anymore anyway , that angry word B%llox suggests otherwise The Brexiteer leaders promised us a deal, they promised us the easiest deal in history and they won the referendum (just). Of course the polys had to go ahead and vote to invoke article 50 but they did so based on those promises. They never voted to crash out so the goal posts have changed. If the Brexiteers had campaigned honestly and said there wont be a deal and we are just leaving with no transition period you might have a point but they didnt do that did they so of course politicians will change their stance. The "polys" voted to trigger article 50 knowing the end game was no deal ... What changed from the day they voted to trigger it to backstabbing the majority of referendum voters in the back ??? ... They were quite happy with no deal but then for some reason bottled it ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-07-01 5:38 PM Barryd999 - 2019-07-01 11:14 AM Birdbrain - 2019-07-01 6:16 AM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 9:38 PM Birdbrain - 2019-06-30 7:09 PM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 6:55 PM Agree about HS2 but if they want any kind of deal with the EU then they will have to cough up something. It was never going to be in a lump sum anyway. Brexiteers now tell us its not all about the money and economy but they seem pretty obsessed with that £39bn which is odd as Brexit has already cost us nearly twice that much. Wrong princess ... Brexit UNCERTAINTY caused by treacherous MPs may have cost us the figure you claim Bollox. Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit. If we had not decided to leave the EU we would have been £66bn better off by now and counting. There was always going to be a two year countdown and the economy went on the slide on day one. You are to blame, it is all your fault. (just you nobody else). Of course Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit but Brexit uncertainty couldn't have happened without treacherous Remoaner MPs who went against everything they had voted for could it ... Take your anger out on them ... I thought you didn't give a t%ss anymore anyway , that angry word B%llox suggests otherwise The Brexiteer leaders promised us a deal, they promised us the easiest deal in history and they won the referendum (just). Of course the polys had to go ahead and vote to invoke article 50 but they did so based on those promises. They never voted to crash out so the goal posts have changed. If the Brexiteers had campaigned honestly and said there wont be a deal and we are just leaving with no transition period you might have a point but they didnt do that did they so of course politicians will change their stance. The "polys" voted to trigger article 50 knowing the end game was no deal ... What changed from the day they voted to trigger it to backstabbing the majority of referendum voters in the back ??? ... They were quite happy with no deal but then for some reason bottled it ??? Are you living on the same planet as me? No they didnt, the above is just complete bollox, there is no other word for it. The end game was never no deal. How many times did we hear the words "Nobody is talking about leaving with no deal" from the very people even who are now talking about "no deal"? There is no majority for No Deal even amongst your own Brexiteers. On a good day you would be lucky to get 30% of Brexiteers supporting no deal. Support for Farages no deal Brexit party shows that but considering in a recent poll something like 20% of voters thought "No Deal" meant not leaving the EU maybe its less than that. Easy solution of course. Put it to the public, no deal vs remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-07-02 10:18 AM Birdbrain - 2019-07-01 5:38 PM Barryd999 - 2019-07-01 11:14 AM Birdbrain - 2019-07-01 6:16 AM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 9:38 PM Birdbrain - 2019-06-30 7:09 PM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 6:55 PM Agree about HS2 but if they want any kind of deal with the EU then they will have to cough up something. It was never going to be in a lump sum anyway. Brexiteers now tell us its not all about the money and economy but they seem pretty obsessed with that £39bn which is odd as Brexit has already cost us nearly twice that much. Wrong princess ... Brexit UNCERTAINTY caused by treacherous MPs may have cost us the figure you claim Bollox. Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit. If we had not decided to leave the EU we would have been £66bn better off by now and counting. There was always going to be a two year countdown and the economy went on the slide on day one. You are to blame, it is all your fault. (just you nobody else). Of course Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit but Brexit uncertainty couldn't have happened without treacherous Remoaner MPs who went against everything they had voted for could it ... Take your anger out on them ... I thought you didn't give a t%ss anymore anyway , that angry word B%llox suggests otherwise The Brexiteer leaders promised us a deal, they promised us the easiest deal in history and they won the referendum (just). Of course the polys had to go ahead and vote to invoke article 50 but they did so based on those promises. They never voted to crash out so the goal posts have changed. If the Brexiteers had campaigned honestly and said there wont be a deal and we are just leaving with no transition period you might have a point but they didnt do that did they so of course politicians will change their stance. The "polys" voted to trigger article 50 knowing the end game was no deal ... What changed from the day they voted to trigger it to backstabbing the majority of referendum voters in the back ??? ... They were quite happy with no deal but then for some reason bottled it ??? Are you living on the same planet as me? No they didnt, the above is just complete bollox, there is no other word for it. The end game was never no deal. How many times did we hear the words "Nobody is talking about leaving with no deal" from the very people even who are now talking about "no deal"? There is no majority for No Deal even amongst your own Brexiteers. On a good day you would be lucky to get 30% of Brexiteers supporting no deal. Support for Farages no deal Brexit party shows that but considering in a recent poll something like 20% of voters thought "No Deal" meant not leaving the EU maybe its less than that. Easy solution of course. Put it to the public, no deal vs remain. So they didn't vote to trigger Article 50 knowing the legal default position at that time was leaving with no-deal ??? Is that what your really saying princess ... Soubry and Cooper never said (until they changed the rules) that no-deal was the end game result ??? ... As for living on your planet Barry I thank the Lord daily I dont as do a growing number of folk all across Europe it would seem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-07-02 10:18 AM Birdbrain - 2019-07-01 5:38 PM Barryd999 - 2019-07-01 11:14 AM Birdbrain - 2019-07-01 6:16 AM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 9:38 PM Birdbrain - 2019-06-30 7:09 PM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 6:55 PM Agree about HS2 but if they want any kind of deal with the EU then they will have to cough up something. It was never going to be in a lump sum anyway. Brexiteers now tell us its not all about the money and economy but they seem pretty obsessed with that £39bn which is odd as Brexit has already cost us nearly twice that much. Wrong princess ... Brexit UNCERTAINTY caused by treacherous MPs may have cost us the figure you claim Bollox. Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit. If we had not decided to leave the EU we would have been £66bn better off by now and counting. There was always going to be a two year countdown and the economy went on the slide on day one. You are to blame, it is all your fault. (just you nobody else). Of course Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit but Brexit uncertainty couldn't have happened without treacherous Remoaner MPs who went against everything they had voted for could it ... Take your anger out on them ... I thought you didn't give a t%ss anymore anyway , that angry word B%llox suggests otherwise The Brexiteer leaders promised us a deal, they promised us the easiest deal in history and they won the referendum (just). Of course the polys had to go ahead and vote to invoke article 50 but they did so based on those promises. They never voted to crash out so the goal posts have changed. If the Brexiteers had campaigned honestly and said there wont be a deal and we are just leaving with no transition period you might have a point but they didnt do that did they so of course politicians will change their stance. The "polys" voted to trigger article 50 knowing the end game was no deal ... What changed from the day they voted to trigger it to backstabbing the majority of referendum voters in the back ??? ... They were quite happy with no deal but then for some reason bottled it ??? Are you living on the same planet as me? No they didnt, the above is just complete bollox, there is no other word for it. The end game was never no deal. How many times did we hear the words "Nobody is talking about leaving with no deal" from the very people even who are now talking about "no deal"? There is no majority for No Deal even amongst your own Brexiteers. On a good day you would be lucky to get 30% of Brexiteers supporting no deal. Support for Farages no deal Brexit party shows that but considering in a recent poll something like 20% of voters thought "No Deal" meant not leaving the EU maybe its less than that. Easy solution of course. Put it to the public, no deal vs remain. So they didn't vote to trigger Article 50 knowing the legal default position at that time was leaving with no-deal ??? Is that what your really saying princess ... Soubry and Cooper never said (until they changed the rules) that no-deal was the end game result ??? ... As for living on your planet Barry I thank the Lord daily I dont as do a growing number of folk all across Europe it would seem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-07-02 7:02 PM Barryd999 - 2019-07-02 10:18 AM Birdbrain - 2019-07-01 5:38 PM Barryd999 - 2019-07-01 11:14 AM Birdbrain - 2019-07-01 6:16 AM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 9:38 PM Birdbrain - 2019-06-30 7:09 PM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 6:55 PM Agree about HS2 but if they want any kind of deal with the EU then they will have to cough up something. It was never going to be in a lump sum anyway. Brexiteers now tell us its not all about the money and economy but they seem pretty obsessed with that £39bn which is odd as Brexit has already cost us nearly twice that much. Wrong princess ... Brexit UNCERTAINTY caused by treacherous MPs may have cost us the figure you claim Bollox. Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit. If we had not decided to leave the EU we would have been £66bn better off by now and counting. There was always going to be a two year countdown and the economy went on the slide on day one. You are to blame, it is all your fault. (just you nobody else). Of course Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit but Brexit uncertainty couldn't have happened without treacherous Remoaner MPs who went against everything they had voted for could it ... Take your anger out on them ... I thought you didn't give a t%ss anymore anyway , that angry word B%llox suggests otherwise The Brexiteer leaders promised us a deal, they promised us the easiest deal in history and they won the referendum (just). Of course the polys had to go ahead and vote to invoke article 50 but they did so based on those promises. They never voted to crash out so the goal posts have changed. If the Brexiteers had campaigned honestly and said there wont be a deal and we are just leaving with no transition period you might have a point but they didnt do that did they so of course politicians will change their stance. The "polys" voted to trigger article 50 knowing the end game was no deal ... What changed from the day they voted to trigger it to backstabbing the majority of referendum voters in the back ??? ... They were quite happy with no deal but then for some reason bottled it ??? Are you living on the same planet as me? No they didnt, the above is just complete bollox, there is no other word for it. The end game was never no deal. How many times did we hear the words "Nobody is talking about leaving with no deal" from the very people even who are now talking about "no deal"? There is no majority for No Deal even amongst your own Brexiteers. On a good day you would be lucky to get 30% of Brexiteers supporting no deal. Support for Farages no deal Brexit party shows that but considering in a recent poll something like 20% of voters thought "No Deal" meant not leaving the EU maybe its less than that. Easy solution of course. Put it to the public, no deal vs remain. So they didn't vote to trigger Article 50 knowing the legal default position at that time was leaving with no-deal ??? Is that what your really saying princess ... Soubry and Cooper never said (until they changed the rules) that no-deal was the end game result ??? ... As for living on your planet Barry I thank the Lord daily I dont as do a growing number of folk all across Europe it would seem They were assured as we all were that no deal was never going to happen and nobody wanted that so they could hardly not go along with Brexit at that time could they. Well we / they went along with it and its a clusterfcuk as many of us said it would be so now we need to either abandon this failed project or put it back to the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-07-02 10:07 PM Birdbrain - 2019-07-02 7:02 PM Barryd999 - 2019-07-02 10:18 AM Birdbrain - 2019-07-01 5:38 PM Barryd999 - 2019-07-01 11:14 AM Birdbrain - 2019-07-01 6:16 AM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 9:38 PM Birdbrain - 2019-06-30 7:09 PM Barryd999 - 2019-06-30 6:55 PM Agree about HS2 but if they want any kind of deal with the EU then they will have to cough up something. It was never going to be in a lump sum anyway. Brexiteers now tell us its not all about the money and economy but they seem pretty obsessed with that £39bn which is odd as Brexit has already cost us nearly twice that much. Wrong princess ... Brexit UNCERTAINTY caused by treacherous MPs may have cost us the figure you claim Bollox. Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit. If we had not decided to leave the EU we would have been £66bn better off by now and counting. There was always going to be a two year countdown and the economy went on the slide on day one. You are to blame, it is all your fault. (just you nobody else). Of course Brexit uncertainty was caused by Brexit but Brexit uncertainty couldn't have happened without treacherous Remoaner MPs who went against everything they had voted for could it ... Take your anger out on them ... I thought you didn't give a t%ss anymore anyway , that angry word B%llox suggests otherwise The Brexiteer leaders promised us a deal, they promised us the easiest deal in history and they won the referendum (just). Of course the polys had to go ahead and vote to invoke article 50 but they did so based on those promises. They never voted to crash out so the goal posts have changed. If the Brexiteers had campaigned honestly and said there wont be a deal and we are just leaving with no transition period you might have a point but they didnt do that did they so of course politicians will change their stance. The "polys" voted to trigger article 50 knowing the end game was no deal ... What changed from the day they voted to trigger it to backstabbing the majority of referendum voters in the back ??? ... They were quite happy with no deal but then for some reason bottled it ??? Are you living on the same planet as me? No they didnt, the above is just complete bollox, there is no other word for it. The end game was never no deal. How many times did we hear the words "Nobody is talking about leaving with no deal" from the very people even who are now talking about "no deal"? There is no majority for No Deal even amongst your own Brexiteers. On a good day you would be lucky to get 30% of Brexiteers supporting no deal. Support for Farages no deal Brexit party shows that but considering in a recent poll something like 20% of voters thought "No Deal" meant not leaving the EU maybe its less than that. Easy solution of course. Put it to the public, no deal vs remain. So they didn't vote to trigger Article 50 knowing the legal default position at that time was leaving with no-deal ??? Is that what your really saying princess ... Soubry and Cooper never said (until they changed the rules) that no-deal was the end game result ??? ... As for living on your planet Barry I thank the Lord daily I dont as do a growing number of folk all across Europe it would seem They were assured as we all were that no deal was never going to happen and nobody wanted that so they could hardly not go along with Brexit at that time could they. Well we / they went along with it and its a clusterfcuk as many of us said it would be so now we need to either abandon this failed project or put it back to the people. Can I copy one of your sayings "the above is just complete bol$x" ... Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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