Guest pelmetman Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Do our Loser MP's have the courage of their convictions? ;-) ........... I do hope so >:-) .......... 14th October.......... Payback day B-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 The problem you have got is that everyone with an ounce of common sense knows that Doris and Co are proven liars and cheats. So no they are not going to fall into his little trap of "promising" an election before we leave, only for him to change the date of the election after parliament votes under the FTPA. That's the problem with liars, after a while everybody knows that they cannot be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 8:51 AM The problem you have got is that everyone with an ounce of common sense knows that Doris and Co are proven liars and cheats. So no they are not going to fall into his little trap of "promising" an election before we leave, only for him to change the date of the election after parliament votes under the FTPA. That's the problem with liars, after a while everybody knows that they cannot be trusted. So Corbyn is lying when he says he wants an election? >:-) ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-03 8:53 AM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 8:51 AM The problem you have got is that everyone with an ounce of common sense knows that Doris and Co are proven liars and cheats. So no they are not going to fall into his little trap of "promising" an election before we leave, only for him to change the date of the election after parliament votes under the FTPA. That's the problem with liars, after a while everybody knows that they cannot be trusted. So Corbyn is lying when he says he wants an election? >:-) ............ Nope, he / we the people, want an election - we're just not going to fall into Doris's trap. Simple solution is that the election date is set in legislation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Coarse clueless Corbyn ..he’s no lier...we will support the will of the people,no we won’t,yes we will,no we won’t, we should have a second vote, no,yes ,no not sure ,maybe ....I’m ready to run the country.....PLEASE some one put something in this guys mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 9:04 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-03 8:53 AM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 8:51 AM The problem you have got is that everyone with an ounce of common sense knows that Doris and Co are proven liars and cheats. So no they are not going to fall into his little trap of "promising" an election before we leave, only for him to change the date of the election after parliament votes under the FTPA. That's the problem with liars, after a while everybody knows that they cannot be trusted. So Corbyn is lying when he says he wants an election? >:-) ............ Nope, he / we the people, want an election - we're just not going to fall into Doris's trap. Simple solution is that the election date is set in legislation. "Corbyn wants an election despite warning from Tony Blair" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49552403 So he is lying >:-) ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 The real irony is that if Doris does get an election he could easily lose his Uxbridge seat, his little jaunt out of the country when the Heathrow expansion vote was going on did not go down to well with his already slim majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 12:43 PM The real irony is that if Doris does get an election he could easily lose his Uxbridge seat, his little jaunt out of the country when the Heathrow expansion vote was going on did not go down to well with his already slim majority. Even sweeter still.....an Iranian immigrant is his rival. (lol) https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/iranian-immigrant-labour-ali-milani-boris-johnson-uxbridge/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-03 9:26 AM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 9:04 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-03 8:53 AM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 8:51 AM The problem you have got is that everyone with an ounce of common sense knows that Doris and Co are proven liars and cheats. So no they are not going to fall into his little trap of "promising" an election before we leave, only for him to change the date of the election after parliament votes under the FTPA. That's the problem with liars, after a while everybody knows that they cannot be trusted. So Corbyn is lying when he says he wants an election? >:-) ............ Nope, he / we the people, want an election - we're just not going to fall into Doris's trap. Simple solution is that the election date is set in legislation. "Corbyn wants an election despite warning from Tony Blair" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49552403 So he is lying >:-) ............ That's yesterdays news you posted.....you need to keep up to present day. and Hammond will fight; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-09-03 1:52 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-03 9:26 AM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 9:04 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-03 8:53 AM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 8:51 AM The problem you have got is that everyone with an ounce of common sense knows that Doris and Co are proven liars and cheats. So no they are not going to fall into his little trap of "promising" an election before we leave, only for him to change the date of the election after parliament votes under the FTPA. That's the problem with liars, after a while everybody knows that they cannot be trusted. So Corbyn is lying when he says he wants an election? >:-) ............ Nope, he / we the people, want an election - we're just not going to fall into Doris's trap. Simple solution is that the election date is set in legislation. "Corbyn wants an election despite warning from Tony Blair" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49552403 So he is lying >:-) ............ That's yesterdays news you posted.....you need to keep up to present day. and Hammond will fight; So Corbyn is lying *-) ..........He doesn't want an election????? :-S ......... He's more flip flop than pm material (lol) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/09/02/after-one-month-prime-minister-public-attitudes-to B-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 12:43 PM The real irony is that if Doris does get an election he could easily lose his Uxbridge seat, his little jaunt out of the country when the Heathrow expansion vote was going on did not go down to well with his already slim majority. Even sweeter still.....an Iranian immigrant is his rival. (lol) https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/iranian-immigrant-labour-ali-milani-boris-johnson-uxbridge/ Apparently the reason why Doris is so keen to deselect so many tories is to create a safe seat he can stand in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Stunning contribution from IDS to this evenings debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 5:33 PM Bulletguy - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 12:43 PM The real irony is that if Doris does get an election he could easily lose his Uxbridge seat, his little jaunt out of the country when the Heathrow expansion vote was going on did not go down to well with his already slim majority. Even sweeter still.....an Iranian immigrant is his rival. (lol) https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/iranian-immigrant-labour-ali-milani-boris-johnson-uxbridge/ Apparently the reason why Doris is so keen to deselect so many tories is to create a safe seat he can stand in. Looks like he's got a choice of 21 seats >:-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-03 11:06 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 5:33 PM Bulletguy - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 12:43 PM The real irony is that if Doris does get an election he could easily lose his Uxbridge seat, his little jaunt out of the country when the Heathrow expansion vote was going on did not go down to well with his already slim majority. Even sweeter still.....an Iranian immigrant is his rival. (lol) https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/iranian-immigrant-labour-ali-milani-boris-johnson-uxbridge/ Apparently the reason why Doris is so keen to deselect so many tories is to create a safe seat he can stand in. Looks like he's got a choice of 21 seats >:-) .......... In the words of Pyrrhus, "Another victory like this, and we're done for!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 11:26 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-03 11:06 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 5:33 PM Bulletguy - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 12:43 PM The real irony is that if Doris does get an election he could easily lose his Uxbridge seat, his little jaunt out of the country when the Heathrow expansion vote was going on did not go down to well with his already slim majority. Even sweeter still.....an Iranian immigrant is his rival. (lol) https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/iranian-immigrant-labour-ali-milani-boris-johnson-uxbridge/ Apparently the reason why Doris is so keen to deselect so many tories is to create a safe seat he can stand in. Looks like he's got a choice of 21 seats >:-) .......... In the words of Pyrrhus, "Another victory like this, and we're done for!" Seeing as the only thing the majority of the public agree on is they want Brexit over ;-) ........... The only party that can achieve that is the now United Eurosceptic Tories B-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-04 8:46 AM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 11:26 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-03 11:06 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 5:33 PM Bulletguy - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 12:43 PM The real irony is that if Doris does get an election he could easily lose his Uxbridge seat, his little jaunt out of the country when the Heathrow expansion vote was going on did not go down to well with his already slim majority. Even sweeter still.....an Iranian immigrant is his rival. (lol) https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/iranian-immigrant-labour-ali-milani-boris-johnson-uxbridge/ Apparently the reason why Doris is so keen to deselect so many tories is to create a safe seat he can stand in. Looks like he's got a choice of 21 seats >:-) .......... In the words of Pyrrhus, "Another victory like this, and we're done for!" Seeing as the only thing the majority of the public agree on is they want Brexit over ;-) ........... As Pat referred....a pyrrhic victory. Look it up. You don't know what the majority of the public want, only what you want. I suspect the outcome of a peoples vote would be very different to that of 2016 given everyone now knows much more than they did three years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Its the obvious answer isnt it? If the people what Brexit over quickly then the best thing to do is to remain as this is only the start. Even if we leave we will be straight back at the negotiating table. The WA will still need to be signed, the Irish border problem will still need to be resolved, the money we owe to the EU will still need to be paid (or some of it) before a deal is struck and trade deal negotiations will go on for decades. Its not just one trade deal per country either. There are currently about 700 we have via the EU. At one a month it will take 56 years. All this will go on and on and on while feck all else important gets taken care of. The people need to know this and then the simple thing to do is to just fess up and say "we cant find a way forward, its no deal or remain, what do you want to do?" and let the people decide on those two options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-09-04 11:55 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-04 8:46 AM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 11:26 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-03 11:06 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 5:33 PM Bulletguy - 2019-09-03 1:16 PM Fast Pat - 2019-09-03 12:43 PM The real irony is that if Doris does get an election he could easily lose his Uxbridge seat, his little jaunt out of the country when the Heathrow expansion vote was going on did not go down to well with his already slim majority. Even sweeter still.....an Iranian immigrant is his rival. (lol) https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/iranian-immigrant-labour-ali-milani-boris-johnson-uxbridge/ Apparently the reason why Doris is so keen to deselect so many tories is to create a safe seat he can stand in. Looks like he's got a choice of 21 seats >:-) .......... In the words of Pyrrhus, "Another victory like this, and we're done for!" Seeing as the only thing the majority of the public agree on is they want Brexit over ;-) ........... As Pat referred....a pyrrhic victory. Look it up. I know what it means *-) ...........and that's exactly what Parliaments stalling will prove to be after the next GE :D ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/ Boris the Bulldozer V Corbyn the Bullsh*tter.........Bring it on >:-) ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-08 9:22 AM https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/ Boris the Bulldozer V Corbyn the Bullsh*tter.........Bring it on >:-) ....... None of those results are enough to get a majority though and we all know what happened in 2017. Of course you have to factor in that it could be November by the time the election comes and if Boris has failed to deliver Brexit what will that do to the result? Will he even still be PM by then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-09-08 10:10 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-08 9:22 AM https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/ Boris the Bulldozer V Corbyn the Bullsh*tter.........Bring it on >:-) ....... None of those results are enough to get a majority though and we all know what happened in 2017. Of course you have to factor in that it could be November by the time the election comes and if Boris has failed to deliver Brexit what will that do to the result? Will he even still be PM by then? Did May have a 14 point lead? ;-) ........... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7440133/Defiant-Boris-Johnson-opens-BIGGER-poll-lead.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-08 11:57 AM Barryd999 - 2019-09-08 10:10 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-08 9:22 AM https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/ Boris the Bulldozer V Corbyn the Bullsh*tter.........Bring it on >:-) ....... None of those results are enough to get a majority though and we all know what happened in 2017. Of course you have to factor in that it could be November by the time the election comes and if Boris has failed to deliver Brexit what will that do to the result? Will he even still be PM by then? Did May have a 14 point lead? ;-) ........... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7440133/Defiant-Boris-Johnson-opens-BIGGER-poll-lead.html No! It was higher. 21 point lead I seem to remember. Duh!! *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Barryd999 - 2019-09-08 12:16 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-08 11:57 AM Barryd999 - 2019-09-08 10:10 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-08 9:22 AM https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/ Boris the Bulldozer V Corbyn the Bullsh*tter.........Bring it on >:-) ....... None of those results are enough to get a majority though and we all know what happened in 2017. Of course you have to factor in that it could be November by the time the election comes and if Boris has failed to deliver Brexit what will that do to the result? Will he even still be PM by then? Did May have a 14 point lead? ;-) ........... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7440133/Defiant-Boris-Johnson-opens-BIGGER-poll-lead.html No! It was higher. 21 point lead I seem to remember. Duh!! *-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2017_United_Kingdom_general_election Duh!!! (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-09-08 12:25 PM Barryd999 - 2019-09-08 12:16 PM pelmetman - 2019-09-08 11:57 AM Barryd999 - 2019-09-08 10:10 AM pelmetman - 2019-09-08 9:22 AM https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/ Boris the Bulldozer V Corbyn the Bullsh*tter.........Bring it on >:-) ....... None of those results are enough to get a majority though and we all know what happened in 2017. Of course you have to factor in that it could be November by the time the election comes and if Boris has failed to deliver Brexit what will that do to the result? Will he even still be PM by then? Did May have a 14 point lead? ;-) ........... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7440133/Defiant-Boris-Johnson-opens-BIGGER-poll-lead.html No! It was higher. 21 point lead I seem to remember. Duh!! *-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2017_United_Kingdom_general_election Duh!!! (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Are you p*ssed already numbnuts? Go and look at the lead point for the Tories on the day the election was announced which to save you looking it up was 18 April 2017. 21%. FFS! *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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