Bulletguy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 ......whilst attending a 999 emergency in a marked police car!! *-) The private parking company have refused to back down and told them they have to write a letter of appeal. *-) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-50948901 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Strickly they are correct though insensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-12-30 6:46 PM Strickly they are correct though insensitive. The police should let it go to court.......then walk out with a self satisfied grin as the company get whacked with paying a few grand in court costs! I've picked up one of these tickets on a supermarket carpark and they're virtually unenforceable but folk get intimidated and pay up. There is a clause in the contract between the supermarket and ANPR parking company known as "genuine shopper". The public don't know about it because it's not publicised on the boards. Parking companies are in business to milk the motorist for whatever they can get away with. My PCN was cancelled out by the store manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Eh? :-S ......... You haven't blamed Boris 8-) ......... Are you unwell? :-| .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-12-30 8:04 PM jumpstart - 2019-12-30 6:46 PM Strickly they are correct though insensitive. The police should let it go to court.......then walk out with a self satisfied grin as the company get whacked with paying a few grand in court costs! I've picked up one of these tickets on a supermarket carpark and they're virtually unenforceable but folk get intimidated and pay up. There is a clause in the contract between the supermarket and ANPR parking company known as "genuine shopper". The public don't know about it because it's not publicised on the boards. Parking companies are in business to milk the motorist for whatever they can get away with. My PCN was cancelled out by the store manager. Yes , it takes a special sort of person to slap a ticket on a police car on an emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Bulletguy - 2019-12-30 8:04 PM I've picked up one of these tickets on a supermarket carpark and they're virtually unenforceable . Used to be but things have changed. I don't know much detail about English private parking law but I have seen baliffs on TV collecting £thousands in unpaid private parking charges. So be careful. English law invariably favours the landowner so they were the last to outlaw rogue wheelclampers. When they finally did they gave the private parking companies more powers. The law is different in Scotland as its not so much of a problem. Scotland is more like the rest of the EU where parking is not used by local authorities for revenue raising. Because there is much more free parking around here, there is not so much abuse of the free parking provided by supermarkets. So supermarkets have no need to introduce and enforce parking restrictions like they do in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 pelmetman - 2019-12-30 8:10 PM Eh? :-S ......... You haven't blamed Boris 8-) ......... Are you unwell? :-| .......... Actually BoJo is the head of the English Government responsible for Englands parking laws. So who do you blame for Englands parking laws *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 pelmetman - 2019-12-30 8:10 PM Eh? :-S ......... You haven't blamed Boris 8-) ......... Are you unwell? :-| .......... … and you haven't blamed Corbyn. So you're not at your best either. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 malc d - 2020-01-01 11:23 AM pelmetman - 2019-12-30 8:10 PM Eh? :-S ......... You haven't blamed Boris 8-) ......... Are you unwell? :-| .......... … and you haven't blamed Corbyn. So you're not at your best either. :-| Corbyn's now a irrelevance B-) ......... So not worth mentioning >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-01-01 2:22 PM malc d - 2020-01-01 11:23 AM pelmetman - 2019-12-30 8:10 PM Eh? :-S ......... You haven't blamed Boris 8-) ......... Are you unwell? :-| .......... … and you haven't blamed Corbyn. So you're not at your best either. :-| Corbyn's now a irrelevance B-) ......... So not worth mentioning >:-) ........ Pull the other one......you can't go a day without mentioning his name. You're still obsessed with Corbyn. (lol)(lol)(lol)(lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-01-01 2:22 PM Corbyn's now a irrelevance B-) ......... So not worth mentioning >:-) ........ It will be interesting to see how long that lasts. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-01-01 2:22 PM Corbyn's now a irrelevance B-) ......... So not worth mentioning >:-) ........ So who do you blame for Englands parking laws if not the Head of the Government that makes, amends and repeals them *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 John52 - 2020-01-01 6:42 PM pelmetman - 2020-01-01 2:22 PM Corbyn's now a irrelevance B-) ......... So not worth mentioning >:-) ........ So who do you blame for Englands parking laws if not the Head of the Government that makes, amends and repeals them *-) Bit early to blame Boris yet...give him another 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 jumpstart - 2019-12-30 8:14 PM Yes , it takes a special sort of person to slap a ticket on a police car on an emergency. and a 'special' sort of Government that gives them the legal powers to do it *-) So 'special' they have to bribe the Scots, Irish and Welsh with £billions of your money not to vote for independence from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Surely if you park on private land you should expect to pay some sort of penalty. Not sure what the connection is with independence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-01-01 8:15 PM Surely if you park on private land you should expect to pay some sort of penalty. Not sure what the connection is with independence. Yes of course. As an ex-supermarket manager I've seen it from the other side when your car park is full of cars owned by people who have gone somewhere else and your customers can't get in >:-) but if you look on the parking forums you will see how some private car park owners (and councils) are able to abuse their powers to rip off visiting motorists with excessive fines, because English law puts the balance of power in their favour. >:-) Often employing crooks to enforce them - the sort of people who would delight in ticketing a police car called out to an emergency.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 John52 - 2020-01-02 7:43 AM jumpstart - 2020-01-01 8:15 PM Surely if you park on private land you should expect to pay some sort of penalty. Not sure what the connection is with independence. Yes of course. As an ex-supermarket manager Ee by gum :D ........... E's an ex Arkwright :-> .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 John52 - 2020-01-01 6:42 PM pelmetman - 2020-01-01 2:22 PM Corbyn's now a irrelevance B-) ......... So not worth mentioning >:-) ........ So who do you blame for Englands parking laws if not the Head of the Government that makes, amends and repeals them *-) Boris has only been in charge a for a few months........and he's already pledged to sort out hospital parking B-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-01-02 8:28 AM John52 - 2020-01-01 6:42 PM pelmetman - 2020-01-01 2:22 PM Corbyn's now a irrelevance B-) ......... So not worth mentioning >:-) ........ So who do you blame for Englands parking laws if not the Head of the Government that makes, amends and repeals them *-) Boris has only been in charge a for a few months........and he's already pledged to sort out hospital parking B-) .......... Another pre-election promise *-) Did he say how he was going to do it *-) If he makes hospital parking free in England their car parks will be full of people who have parked there and gone somewhere else. Only way you can 'sort out hospital parking' is with a fundamental shift in policy towards free parking elsewhere like Scotland, Wales, and the rest of the EU. Where the Government treats the provision of parking as an essential public service, instead of another excuse for a rip off. Acording to the Parking Wars TV programme 'England is officially the world's worst place to park' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Car parks generally are someone’s land. So paying to park there is reasonable. Hospitals are a different problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-01-02 12:10 PM Car parks generally are someone’s land. So paying to park there is reasonable. Hospitals are a different problem. One of the problems of free parking at hospitals - especially if they are in town - is that people will park there and go shopping to avoid car park charges elsewhere. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 malc d - 2020-01-02 12:34 PM jumpstart - 2020-01-02 12:10 PM Car parks generally are someone’s land. So paying to park there is reasonable. Hospitals are a different problem. One of the problems of free parking at hospitals - especially if they are in town - is that people will park there and go shopping ... :-| ....... unless its like Scotland, Wales, or the rest of the EU where every town and village seems to have a free public car park in the centre. So people have no need to abuse the free parking at hospitals. Even more bizarre in England is the policy of charging for car parks when the street is free, so everyone clogs up the street - and the roads driving round and round the streets looking for car park spaces when the car parks are empty. Even the disabled have to struggle with the pay and display machines, wheras they can park on double yellow lines for free. So BoJo's pre-election promise to 'sort out' hospital parking is impossible without sorting out the rest of it as well - and losing the revenue Tory Councils get by abusing their powers..ripping off visiting motorists..to make the council tax for Buckingham Palace less than a 3 bed semi in a poor area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 John52 - 2020-01-02 3:06 PM malc d - 2020-01-02 12:34 PM jumpstart - 2020-01-02 12:10 PM Car parks generally are someone’s land. So paying to park there is reasonable. Hospitals are a different problem. One of the problems of free parking at hospitals - especially if they are in town - is that people will park there and go shopping ... :-| ....... unless its like Scotland, Wales, or the rest of the EU where every town and village seems to have a free public car park in the centre. So people have no need to abuse the free parking at hospitals. Even more bizarre in England is the policy of charging for car parks when the street is free, so everyone clogs up the street - and the roads driving round and round the streets looking for car park spaces when the car parks are empty. Even the disabled have to struggle with the pay and display machines, wheras they can park on double yellow lines for free. So BoJo's pre-election promise to 'sort out' hospital parking is impossible without sorting out the rest of it as well - and losing the revenue Tory Councils get by abusing their powers..ripping off visiting motorists..to make the council tax for Buckingham Palace less than a 3 bed semi in a poor area That’s a lot to sort out in one afternoon. Certainly hospital parking should be free. How you do it is more complicated. Councils are certainly trying to make revenue from parking, if they own the land so be it. If the actual cost wasn’t as exorbitant in many areas , there presumably wouldnt be so much complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-01-02 3:26 PM Councils are certainly trying to make revenue from parking, if they own the land so be it. The public own the land. Scotland, Wales and the rest of the EU seem to have realised there are better ways of raising revenue than charging the public to park on their own land. Because that encourages them to clog up hospital car parks, and the streets etc, driving round in circles looking for free spaces adding to the congestion and pollution, instead of using the car parks they own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 jumpstart - 2020-01-02 3:26 PM Certainly hospital parking should be free. How you do it is more complicated.. Of course. So BoJo evaded all the TV interviews where he might be asked how he was going to keep such pre election promises *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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