Barryd999 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 His days are surely numbered when even the Tory mouthpiece The Spectator sticks the boot in. Its behind a paywall so ill paste the article below. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/i-admit-it-i-was-wrong-to-back-boris Nice of Toby who is normally a bit of nasty piece of work to give him a way out to save face though. A friend emailed me earlier this week in despair about the Prime Minister. ‘Boris reminds me of a hereditary king — Edward II or Henry VI — who is so staggeringly incompetent that he must be removed before doing too much damage,’ he wrote. ‘I felt the same way about May but Boris is worse.’ He is not the only person feeling like this. It pains me to say it, but I too have given up on Boris. The final straw was hearing him talk about his plans to create an army of ‘Covid marshals’ last week — Britain’s very own, curtain-twitching version of the Stasi. What on earth happened to the freedom-loving, twinkly-eyed, Rabelaisian character I voted for? Oliver Hardy has left the stage, replaced by Oliver Cromwell. His government has even said it wants to lower the speed limit on motorways to 60 mph. Didn’t Boris once say that voting Tory will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3? Where did that guy go? Some people think it’s all to do with his bout of coronavirus. As one person put it to me, surviving a near-death experience can affect people in one of two ways. Either you become more devil-may-care, thinking it could all end at any moment so why not live life to the full; or you become super-cautious, having been left feeling vulnerable by your brush with mortality. According to that armchair psychologist, Boris has gone through door number two. A less generous theory is that the disease actually damaged his brain in some way — and there is some evidence that cognitive decline can lower your appetite for risk. Whether the damage was psychological or physiological, the implication is clear: he’s no longer fit to be prime minister and should step down as soon as he’s got Brexit done. This explanation is attractive to former Boris enthusiasts like me because it lets us off the hook. It’s not that we overestimated him; rather that he’s changed in a way we couldn’t have anticipated. But the difficulty with those theories is that his mishandling of the crisis predates his battle with Covid-19. Few would dispute that he failed to give the pandemic the attention he should have done in January and February, time he could have spent devising an effective containment strategy. Come March, he was just buffeted by events, one minute saying we should ‘take it on the chin’, the next imposing a full lockdown. His lack of engagement with the detail, both before and after his spell in intensive care, means the government’s response has been led by others around the cabinet table, like Matt Hancock, who seem to be wholly captured by a small coterie of scientific advisors who decided early on that Sars-CoV-2 was ‘the big one’ and have been unwilling to abandon that hypothesis in the light of all the evidence to the contrary. Boris’s supporters cannot claim they were unaware of this risk. His inability to focus on anything for very long was constantly flagged up by those who’d worked closely with him, most recently at the Foreign Office. My response when this was put to me by his detractors was that he had been preparing for the role of prime minister all his life, had a heroic conception of himself as a world-historical individual and wanted to be installed in the pantheon of immortals as one of Britain’s greats. So even if it was only for vainglorious reasons, he would apply himself in No. 10 in a way he never had before. Hal would become Henry V, not Henry VI. Unfortunately, Boris’s critics have been proved correct. Funnily enough, one of the most prominent, Michael Gove, is now de facto deputy prime minister. Four years ago, when justifying his decision to knife Boris in the Tory leadership contest, Gove said it was because, having seen him operate up close, he’d concluded he lacked the character for the top job. Not lazy exactly, but not serious enough. At the time I took this with a pinch of salt, thinking Gove was exaggerating to make it sound as if he was motivated by public-spiritedness rather than personal ambition. Now I think he was right. Hope followed by disappointment is a familiar story in politics, a cycle as old as history itself. I should have been better prepared. In future, I will not be so naive. Toby Young is associate editor of The Spectator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Poor Boris? He'll be OK He has got plenty of friends in high places - because he put them there, House of Lords etc or gave them our money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I thought May would do a good job.....too weakl. Boris as Mayor ....ok so maybe he would make a good PM........nope. He’s a bit like King Canute. He’s going to drown soon under the waves of ( as one on here has put it) crocodiles who are snapping for him. Probably anyone (apart from Cummings) could have done a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 Once the Tory rags like the Spectator start pulling him to bits he must know he is on a sticky wicket. As soon as the Tory Gutter press start doing the same its game over for him. I suspect he will carry on until the new year though at least as who would want to pick up his mess right now? I bet there are a few letters in already though. The knives will be getting sharpened. Goves for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Chuckle ... Like our own hate squad Toby seems a wee bit confused ... https://spectator.us/britain-needs-boris-extraordinary-man-35-years/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-09-18 7:11 PM Chuckle ... Like our own hate squad Toby seems a wee bit confused ... https://spectator.us/britain-needs-boris-extraordinary-man-35-years/ It's quite simple to understand really. The article Barry linked, Toby Young wrote more than five months after the article you've linked during which time much has happened and Young himself has been man enough to admit "I was wrong to back Boris". People can and do change their minds after finally seeing sense.....you'll get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-09-18 8:26 PM Birdbrain - 2020-09-18 7:11 PM Chuckle ... Like our own hate squad Toby seems a wee bit confused ... https://spectator.us/britain-needs-boris-extraordinary-man-35-years/ It's quite simple to understand really. The article Barry linked, Toby Young wrote more than five months after the article you've linked during which time much has happened and Young himself has been man enough to admit "I was wrong to back Boris". People can and do change their minds after finally seeing sense.....you'll get used to it. Chuckle ... His words "Britain needs Boris, the extraordinary man I have known for 35 YEARS" ... If its taken Toby 35 years to work out he dont like Boris it says more about Toby than Boris ... Dont you get bored of hating ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-09-18 8:43 PM Bulletguy - 2020-09-18 8:26 PM Birdbrain - 2020-09-18 7:11 PM Chuckle ... Like our own hate squad Toby seems a wee bit confused ... https://spectator.us/britain-needs-boris-extraordinary-man-35-years/ It's quite simple to understand really. The article Barry linked, Toby Young wrote more than five months after the article you've linked during which time much has happened and Young himself has been man enough to admit "I was wrong to back Boris". People can and do change their minds after finally seeing sense.....you'll get used to it. Chuckle ... His words "Britain needs Boris, the extraordinary man I have known for 35 YEARS" ... If its taken Toby 35 years to work out he dont like Boris it says more about Toby than Boris ... Dont you get bored of hating ??? What it say's is it took him five months to decide he was wrong to back Johnson and been man enough to admit it. There's nothing "hateful" in stating the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-09-18 7:11 PM Chuckle ... Like our own hate squad Toby seems a wee bit confused ... https://spectator.us/britain-needs-boris-extraordinary-man-35-years/ This is why I posted it. Even his own supporters are now being man enough to admit he is out of his depth and the wrong man for the job. Toby has been gracious enough to give him a way out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 Even Piers has turned against him now. Kind of. (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 Good job Corbyn never got in though. Imagine what it would have been like with a fully funded health service and millions of people working from home with a fully funded free internet connection. Phew!! Dodged a bullet there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-09-18 10:39 PM Good job Corbyn never got in though. Imagine what it would have been like with a fully funded health service and millions of people working from home with a fully funded free internet connection. Phew!! Dodged a bullet there. Chuckle "fully funded health service" ... Chuckle ... Your last comment "Dodged a bullet there" quite apt for a terrorist lover ... Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Chuckle ... Toby Young and Piers Morgan the fella sacked from The Mirror all of a sudden dont like Boris and the drips get all hot ... Chuckle ... Desperate stuff girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 Birdbrain - 2020-09-19 6:42 AM Chuckle ... Toby Young and Piers Morgan the fella sacked from The Mirror all of a sudden dont like Boris and the drips get all hot ... Chuckle ... Desperate stuff girls Even the Mail is sticking the boot in. https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1306346153726836738/photo/1 Its only a matter of time before the rest of them follow suit, his own party turn on him and the public start to wake up and admit to themselves they elected a dangerous self centred loop into number 10. We might not be able to stop Brexit and it looks likely (at the moment) that we will have to wait until 2024 to get the Tories out but Johnson has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-09-19 8:26 AM Birdbrain - 2020-09-19 6:42 AM Chuckle ... Toby Young and Piers Morgan the fella sacked from The Mirror all of a sudden dont like Boris and the drips get all hot ... Chuckle ... Desperate stuff girls Even the Mail is sticking the boot in. https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1306346153726836738/photo/1 Its only a matter of time before the rest of them follow suit, his own party turn on him and the public start to wake up and admit to themselves they elected a dangerous self centred loop into number 10. We might not be able to stop Brexit and it looks likely (at the moment) that we will have to wait until 2024 to get the Tories out but Johnson has to go. The next election isn't untill 2024 ;-) .......... Do you still think you'll have a Pandemic to weaponise then? *-) ........... BTW Corbyn consistently polled higher than the Tories :D ............ But he still lost TWICE >:-) ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-09-19 8:46 AM Barryd999 - 2020-09-19 8:26 AM Birdbrain - 2020-09-19 6:42 AM Chuckle ... Toby Young and Piers Morgan the fella sacked from The Mirror all of a sudden dont like Boris and the drips get all hot ... Chuckle ... Desperate stuff girls Even the Mail is sticking the boot in. https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1306346153726836738/photo/1 Its only a matter of time before the rest of them follow suit, his own party turn on him and the public start to wake up and admit to themselves they elected a dangerous self centred loop into number 10. We might not be able to stop Brexit and it looks likely (at the moment) that we will have to wait until 2024 to get the Tories out but Johnson has to go. The next election isn't untill 2024 ;-) .......... Do you still think you'll have a Pandemic to weaponise then? *-) ........... BTW Corbyn consistently polled higher than the Tories :D ............ But he still lost TWICE >:-) ......... Thats a long time away. Who knows what the Tory party will look like then. One things for sure, people need to wake up and smell the coffee as far as Johnson, Cummings and the whole motley Populist crew that have taken over the party are concerned. They are a disgrace and the sooner they are gone the better. Its only a matter of time. Johnson is not fit to run a bath let alone a country. People and the media are starting to see that. Once the gutter press go for him and tell the plebs what to think, he's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Oh dear. You know you are in trouble when the Tory Ladies get their knives out (or maybe broomsticks). [/i]Following on from the Channel migrant crisis and the widespread assault on our heritage, surely such an outcome would be the straw that broke the camel’s back? Middle England’s patience has been sorely tried by the ineptitude of the Johnson government, the cowardice of its institutions and before that the betrayal of the political and media class over Brexit over the past four years. Nigel Farage would surely seize his chance: the Tories’ currently weird levitation in the polls is merely a function of Labour’s being even less palatable and so much (misplaced) hope being put on the figure of Boris Johnson as a leader. A Brexit Party, rebranded as Reform, would surely find many takers, not least in the Red Wall. There would be no going back. It would be over for Johnson, and perhaps for the Tories.[/i] https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/will-fishing-sink-the-tories/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-09-20 10:26 AM Oh dear. You know you are in trouble when the Tory Ladies get their knives out (or maybe broomsticks). I think Johnson is preparing to jump ship. He got his wish to be PM which was what he'd wanted all along but as everyone knows, he's bone idle and doesn't want the 'work part' of any job, just the title. His history as an idler goes back through every job he's had and when a so called 'journalist' on a magazine, made stuff up (like Pelmet does), and rarely made the copy deadline. How many times has the bloke been sacked? All he's ever done was shag women, get them pregnant, then dump them. He's a public nuisance and liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-09-19 10:27 AM pelmetman - 2020-09-19 8:46 AM Barryd999 - 2020-09-19 8:26 AM Birdbrain - 2020-09-19 6:42 AM Chuckle ... Toby Young and Piers Morgan the fella sacked from The Mirror all of a sudden dont like Boris and the drips get all hot ... Chuckle ... Desperate stuff girls Even the Mail is sticking the boot in. https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1306346153726836738/photo/1 Its only a matter of time before the rest of them follow suit, his own party turn on him and the public start to wake up and admit to themselves they elected a dangerous self centred loop into number 10. We might not be able to stop Brexit and it looks likely (at the moment) that we will have to wait until 2024 to get the Tories out but Johnson has to go. The next election isn't untill 2024 ;-) .......... Do you still think you'll have a Pandemic to weaponise then? *-) ........... BTW Corbyn consistently polled higher than the Tories :D ............ But he still lost TWICE >:-) ......... Thats a long time away. Who knows what the Tory party will look like then. One things for sure, people need to wake up and smell the coffee as far as Johnson, Cummings and the whole motley Populist crew that have taken over the party are concerned. They are a disgrace and the sooner they are gone the better. Its only a matter of time. Johnson is not fit to run a bath let alone a country. People and the media are starting to see that. Once the gutter press go for him and tell the plebs what to think, he's done. Exactly, you've got another 4 years of Loser bitching to go ;-) ........... Best hope that Blighty doesn't thrive as a free nation eh? >:-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 pelmetman - 2020-09-20 12:32 PM Barryd999 - 2020-09-19 10:27 AM pelmetman - 2020-09-19 8:46 AM Barryd999 - 2020-09-19 8:26 AM Birdbrain - 2020-09-19 6:42 AM Chuckle ... Toby Young and Piers Morgan the fella sacked from The Mirror all of a sudden dont like Boris and the drips get all hot ... Chuckle ... Desperate stuff girls Even the Mail is sticking the boot in. https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1306346153726836738/photo/1 Its only a matter of time before the rest of them follow suit, his own party turn on him and the public start to wake up and admit to themselves they elected a dangerous self centred loop into number 10. We might not be able to stop Brexit and it looks likely (at the moment) that we will have to wait until 2024 to get the Tories out but Johnson has to go. The next election isn't untill 2024 ;-) .......... Do you still think you'll have a Pandemic to weaponise then? *-) ........... BTW Corbyn consistently polled higher than the Tories :D ............ But he still lost TWICE >:-) ......... Thats a long time away. Who knows what the Tory party will look like then. One things for sure, people need to wake up and smell the coffee as far as Johnson, Cummings and the whole motley Populist crew that have taken over the party are concerned. They are a disgrace and the sooner they are gone the better. Its only a matter of time. Johnson is not fit to run a bath let alone a country. People and the media are starting to see that. Once the gutter press go for him and tell the plebs what to think, he's done. Exactly, you've got another 4 years of Loser bitching to go ;-) ........... Best hope that Blighty doesn't thrive as a free nation eh? >:-) .......... I dont think so. Ill make a prediction. Johnson will be gone by March 2021. Just what direction the Tory party will go in by then is anyones guess but Ill be more than happy to see the end of our current Moron in Chief. I just hope Cummings goes with him. Preferably to the other side of the planet (both of them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-09-20 2:13 PM I dont think so. Ill make a prediction. Johnson will be gone by March 2021. Just what direction the Tory party will go in by then is anyones guess but Ill be more than happy to see the end of our current Moron in Chief. I just hope Cummings goes with him. Preferably to the other side of the planet (both of them). I dunno. When BoJo slumped in the polls he lost his value to the Tory party - his knack of winning elections. But after so many lies and absurd promises, only the likes of Pelmet still believe him. But he has still got Dominic Cummings to put the skids under any candidates for his job. And with the Tory party full of sleaze, Cummings has got plenty of ammunition to use against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-09-20 2:13 PM pelmetman - 2020-09-20 12:32 PM Barryd999 - 2020-09-19 10:27 AM pelmetman - 2020-09-19 8:46 AM Barryd999 - 2020-09-19 8:26 AM Birdbrain - 2020-09-19 6:42 AM Chuckle ... Toby Young and Piers Morgan the fella sacked from The Mirror all of a sudden dont like Boris and the drips get all hot ... Chuckle ... Desperate stuff girls Even the Mail is sticking the boot in. https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1306346153726836738/photo/1 Its only a matter of time before the rest of them follow suit, his own party turn on him and the public start to wake up and admit to themselves they elected a dangerous self centred loop into number 10. We might not be able to stop Brexit and it looks likely (at the moment) that we will have to wait until 2024 to get the Tories out but Johnson has to go. The next election isn't untill 2024 ;-) .......... Do you still think you'll have a Pandemic to weaponise then? *-) ........... BTW Corbyn consistently polled higher than the Tories :D ............ But he still lost TWICE >:-) ......... Thats a long time away. Who knows what the Tory party will look like then. One things for sure, people need to wake up and smell the coffee as far as Johnson, Cummings and the whole motley Populist crew that have taken over the party are concerned. They are a disgrace and the sooner they are gone the better. Its only a matter of time. Johnson is not fit to run a bath let alone a country. People and the media are starting to see that. Once the gutter press go for him and tell the plebs what to think, he's done. Exactly, you've got another 4 years of Loser bitching to go ;-) ........... Best hope that Blighty doesn't thrive as a free nation eh? >:-) .......... I dont think so. Ill make a prediction. Johnson will be gone by March 2021. Just what direction the Tory party will go in by then is anyones guess but Ill be more than happy to see the end of our current Moron in Chief. I just hope Cummings goes with him. Preferably to the other side of the planet (both of them). Oh goody another Loser prediction (lol) (lol) (lol) ........... Boris is deffo gonna get another term as PM..... given your prediction record >:-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 Bookmark this thread then. Lets see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Barryd999 - 2020-09-21 9:57 AM Bookmark this thread then. Lets see I meant to bookmark the thread where Pelmet said when we have left the EU we can reform the House of Lords *-) How many more cronies has BoJo appointed since? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 John52 - 2020-09-21 7:42 PM Barryd999 - 2020-09-21 9:57 AM Bookmark this thread then. Lets see I meant to bookmark the thread where Pelmet said when we have left the EU we can reform the House of Lords *-) This one? https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/General-Chat/Chatterbox/Brexcuses/42472/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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