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userBrian Kirby
Posted: 18 January 2019 8:13 AM
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pelmetman - 2019-01-17 10:51 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-17 3:17 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 10:49 PM......................
It's curious then that we have achieved the best employment figures since the 70's..........
AFTER we voted for Brexit ......................
I seem to recall the prediction coming from George Osborne was that we'd lose 820,000 jobs within 2 years of the vote ..........
Moral?..........Don't believe the Remoaner doom & gloom merchants .........

Those were the forecast outcomes of Brexit, not just of the vote. If you want to prove the forecasts wrong, wait for two years after Brexit - if you dare!

The employment figures reflect four things. First, the percentage of people of working age currently in employment. Second, the number of people who need to work to maintain their families. Third, the increased size of the population over the same period. Fourth, the number of available jobs. If the forecasts are right - even approximately - the most visible effect will be a reduction in the number of available job vacancies, followed shortly by a rise in unemployment. If business contracts, as seems pretty much inevitable post Brexit (but what form of Brexit?), who will employ all those people? It ain't that difficult, is it?

That was the forecasts of what would happen IMMEDIATELY if we voted for Brexit Brian ..........
We were also told there would be an immediate punishment budget ..........
The only one that got punished was Osborne for spouting total b*llocks ..........

You're ducking the issues, Dave. First, there was a reaction to the vote. Sterling lost value. Second, the actual form of Brexit remains unclear, but a number of firms are now relocating elsewhere, or have put their future investment plans on hold. Those based in the UK to gain access to the EU will be unlikely to remain in the UK in the longer term. Jobs are going, and will continue to do so unless it is clear that tariff free access to the EU market is maintained. The problem with having your head in the sand, is that it leaves your nether end very exposed!
userpelmetman
Posted: 18 January 2019 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: Powerful speech
 


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Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 8:13 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-17 10:51 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-17 3:17 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 10:49 PM......................
It's curious then that we have achieved the best employment figures since the 70's..........
AFTER we voted for Brexit ......................
I seem to recall the prediction coming from George Osborne was that we'd lose 820,000 jobs within 2 years of the vote ..........
Moral?..........Don't believe the Remoaner doom & gloom merchants .........

Those were the forecast outcomes of Brexit, not just of the vote. If you want to prove the forecasts wrong, wait for two years after Brexit - if you dare!

The employment figures reflect four things. First, the percentage of people of working age currently in employment. Second, the number of people who need to work to maintain their families. Third, the increased size of the population over the same period. Fourth, the number of available jobs. If the forecasts are right - even approximately - the most visible effect will be a reduction in the number of available job vacancies, followed shortly by a rise in unemployment. If business contracts, as seems pretty much inevitable post Brexit (but what form of Brexit?), who will employ all those people? It ain't that difficult, is it?

That was the forecasts of what would happen IMMEDIATELY if we voted for Brexit Brian ..........
We were also told there would be an immediate punishment budget ..........
The only one that got punished was Osborne for spouting total b*llocks ..........

You're ducking the issues, Dave. First, there was a reaction to the vote. Sterling lost value. Second, the actual form of Brexit remains unclear, but a number of firms are now relocating elsewhere, or have put their future investment plans on hold. Those based in the UK to gain access to the EU will be unlikely to remain in the UK in the longer term. Jobs are going, and will continue to do so unless it is clear that tariff free access to the EU market is maintained. The problem with having your head in the sand, is that it leaves your nether end very exposed!


First..........Yep sterling dropped to levels last seen in 2010 .........

Second.....There's nothing unclear about a No Deal .......

The problem with having your head stuck up the EU's backside, is you cant see the rest of the world that WANTS to trade with us ...........

userBarryd999
Posted: 18 January 2019 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: Powerful speech
 


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pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:02 AM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 8:13 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-17 10:51 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-17 3:17 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 10:49 PM......................
It's curious then that we have achieved the best employment figures since the 70's..........
AFTER we voted for Brexit ......................
I seem to recall the prediction coming from George Osborne was that we'd lose 820,000 jobs within 2 years of the vote ..........
Moral?..........Don't believe the Remoaner doom & gloom merchants .........

Those were the forecast outcomes of Brexit, not just of the vote. If you want to prove the forecasts wrong, wait for two years after Brexit - if you dare!

The employment figures reflect four things. First, the percentage of people of working age currently in employment. Second, the number of people who need to work to maintain their families. Third, the increased size of the population over the same period. Fourth, the number of available jobs. If the forecasts are right - even approximately - the most visible effect will be a reduction in the number of available job vacancies, followed shortly by a rise in unemployment. If business contracts, as seems pretty much inevitable post Brexit (but what form of Brexit?), who will employ all those people? It ain't that difficult, is it?

That was the forecasts of what would happen IMMEDIATELY if we voted for Brexit Brian ..........
We were also told there would be an immediate punishment budget ..........
The only one that got punished was Osborne for spouting total b*llocks ..........

You're ducking the issues, Dave. First, there was a reaction to the vote. Sterling lost value. Second, the actual form of Brexit remains unclear, but a number of firms are now relocating elsewhere, or have put their future investment plans on hold. Those based in the UK to gain access to the EU will be unlikely to remain in the UK in the longer term. Jobs are going, and will continue to do so unless it is clear that tariff free access to the EU market is maintained. The problem with having your head in the sand, is that it leaves your nether end very exposed!


First..........Yep sterling dropped to levels last seen in 2010 .........

Second.....There's nothing unclear about a No Deal .......

The problem with having your head stuck up the EU's backside, is you cant see the rest of the world that WANTS to trade with us ...........



Your forgetting that it dropped to a 35 year low against the dollar Dave not everything revolves around the Euro exchange rate and how much more your Spanish plonk costs.

The rest of the world wants to trade with us? Really? If you can produce a list that comes remotely close to the trade deals we have already with the EU and the rest of the world as being part of the EU by lunchtime ill promise to vote leave in the up and coming referendum.
userpelmetman
Posted: 18 January 2019 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: Powerful speech
 


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Barryd999 - 2019-01-18 11:54 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:02 AM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 8:13 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-17 10:51 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-17 3:17 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 10:49 PM......................
It's curious then that we have achieved the best employment figures since the 70's..........
AFTER we voted for Brexit ......................
I seem to recall the prediction coming from George Osborne was that we'd lose 820,000 jobs within 2 years of the vote ..........
Moral?..........Don't believe the Remoaner doom & gloom merchants .........

Those were the forecast outcomes of Brexit, not just of the vote. If you want to prove the forecasts wrong, wait for two years after Brexit - if you dare!

The employment figures reflect four things. First, the percentage of people of working age currently in employment. Second, the number of people who need to work to maintain their families. Third, the increased size of the population over the same period. Fourth, the number of available jobs. If the forecasts are right - even approximately - the most visible effect will be a reduction in the number of available job vacancies, followed shortly by a rise in unemployment. If business contracts, as seems pretty much inevitable post Brexit (but what form of Brexit?), who will employ all those people? It ain't that difficult, is it?

That was the forecasts of what would happen IMMEDIATELY if we voted for Brexit Brian ..........
We were also told there would be an immediate punishment budget ..........
The only one that got punished was Osborne for spouting total b*llocks ..........

You're ducking the issues, Dave. First, there was a reaction to the vote. Sterling lost value. Second, the actual form of Brexit remains unclear, but a number of firms are now relocating elsewhere, or have put their future investment plans on hold. Those based in the UK to gain access to the EU will be unlikely to remain in the UK in the longer term. Jobs are going, and will continue to do so unless it is clear that tariff free access to the EU market is maintained. The problem with having your head in the sand, is that it leaves your nether end very exposed!


First..........Yep sterling dropped to levels last seen in 2010 .........

Second.....There's nothing unclear about a No Deal .......

The problem with having your head stuck up the EU's backside, is you cant see the rest of the world that WANTS to trade with us ...........



Your forgetting that it dropped to a 35 year low against the dollar Dave not everything revolves around the Euro exchange rate and how much more your Spanish plonk costs.

The rest of the world wants to trade with us? Really? If you can produce a list that comes remotely close to the trade deals we have already with the EU and the rest of the world as being part of the EU by lunchtime ill promise to vote leave in the up and coming referendum.


Our exports to the EU have dropped continually since 2006 ..........

The figure for 44% of UK trade being with the EU was cited a lot during the EU Referendum - it's actually a 2015 figure just for exports of goods and services. The 2016 figure was 43%, worth about £241bn, and it has indeed fallen from about 54% in 2006.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43212899

It's time to broaden our outlook and our markets ........and a drop in the pound to dollar will be of benefit to our exporters ..........



Edited by pelmetman 2019-01-18 2:46 PM
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Posted: 18 January 2019 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: Powerful speech
 


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pelmetman - 2019-01-18 2:45 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-18 11:54 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:02 AM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 8:13 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-17 10:51 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-17 3:17 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 10:49 PM......................
It's curious then that we have achieved the best employment figures since the 70's..........
AFTER we voted for Brexit ......................
I seem to recall the prediction coming from George Osborne was that we'd lose 820,000 jobs within 2 years of the vote ..........
Moral?..........Don't believe the Remoaner doom & gloom merchants .........

Those were the forecast outcomes of Brexit, not just of the vote. If you want to prove the forecasts wrong, wait for two years after Brexit - if you dare!

The employment figures reflect four things. First, the percentage of people of working age currently in employment. Second, the number of people who need to work to maintain their families. Third, the increased size of the population over the same period. Fourth, the number of available jobs. If the forecasts are right - even approximately - the most visible effect will be a reduction in the number of available job vacancies, followed shortly by a rise in unemployment. If business contracts, as seems pretty much inevitable post Brexit (but what form of Brexit?), who will employ all those people? It ain't that difficult, is it?

That was the forecasts of what would happen IMMEDIATELY if we voted for Brexit Brian ..........
We were also told there would be an immediate punishment budget ..........
The only one that got punished was Osborne for spouting total b*llocks ..........

You're ducking the issues, Dave. First, there was a reaction to the vote. Sterling lost value. Second, the actual form of Brexit remains unclear, but a number of firms are now relocating elsewhere, or have put their future investment plans on hold. Those based in the UK to gain access to the EU will be unlikely to remain in the UK in the longer term. Jobs are going, and will continue to do so unless it is clear that tariff free access to the EU market is maintained. The problem with having your head in the sand, is that it leaves your nether end very exposed!


First..........Yep sterling dropped to levels last seen in 2010 .........

Second.....There's nothing unclear about a No Deal .......

The problem with having your head stuck up the EU's backside, is you cant see the rest of the world that WANTS to trade with us ...........



Your forgetting that it dropped to a 35 year low against the dollar Dave not everything revolves around the Euro exchange rate and how much more your Spanish plonk costs.

The rest of the world wants to trade with us? Really? If you can produce a list that comes remotely close to the trade deals we have already with the EU and the rest of the world as being part of the EU by lunchtime ill promise to vote leave in the up and coming referendum.


Our exports to the EU have dropped continually since 2006 ..........

The figure for 44% of UK trade being with the EU was cited a lot during the EU Referendum - it's actually a 2015 figure just for exports of goods and services. The 2016 figure was 43%, worth about £241bn, and it has indeed fallen from about 54% in 2006.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43212899

It's time to broaden our outlook and our markets ........and a drop in the pound to dollar will be of benefit to our exporters ..........



Hmm. So no list then.
userpelmetman
Posted: 18 January 2019 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: Powerful speech
 


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Barryd999 - 2019-01-18 10:45 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 2:45 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-18 11:54 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:02 AM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 8:13 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-17 10:51 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-17 3:17 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 10:49 PM......................
It's curious then that we have achieved the best employment figures since the 70's..........
AFTER we voted for Brexit ......................
I seem to recall the prediction coming from George Osborne was that we'd lose 820,000 jobs within 2 years of the vote ..........
Moral?..........Don't believe the Remoaner doom & gloom merchants .........

Those were the forecast outcomes of Brexit, not just of the vote. If you want to prove the forecasts wrong, wait for two years after Brexit - if you dare!

The employment figures reflect four things. First, the percentage of people of working age currently in employment. Second, the number of people who need to work to maintain their families. Third, the increased size of the population over the same period. Fourth, the number of available jobs. If the forecasts are right - even approximately - the most visible effect will be a reduction in the number of available job vacancies, followed shortly by a rise in unemployment. If business contracts, as seems pretty much inevitable post Brexit (but what form of Brexit?), who will employ all those people? It ain't that difficult, is it?

That was the forecasts of what would happen IMMEDIATELY if we voted for Brexit Brian ..........
We were also told there would be an immediate punishment budget ..........
The only one that got punished was Osborne for spouting total b*llocks ..........

You're ducking the issues, Dave. First, there was a reaction to the vote. Sterling lost value. Second, the actual form of Brexit remains unclear, but a number of firms are now relocating elsewhere, or have put their future investment plans on hold. Those based in the UK to gain access to the EU will be unlikely to remain in the UK in the longer term. Jobs are going, and will continue to do so unless it is clear that tariff free access to the EU market is maintained. The problem with having your head in the sand, is that it leaves your nether end very exposed!


First..........Yep sterling dropped to levels last seen in 2010 .........

Second.....There's nothing unclear about a No Deal .......

The problem with having your head stuck up the EU's backside, is you cant see the rest of the world that WANTS to trade with us ...........



Your forgetting that it dropped to a 35 year low against the dollar Dave not everything revolves around the Euro exchange rate and how much more your Spanish plonk costs.

The rest of the world wants to trade with us? Really? If you can produce a list that comes remotely close to the trade deals we have already with the EU and the rest of the world as being part of the EU by lunchtime ill promise to vote leave in the up and coming referendum.


Our exports to the EU have dropped continually since 2006 ..........

The figure for 44% of UK trade being with the EU was cited a lot during the EU Referendum - it's actually a 2015 figure just for exports of goods and services. The 2016 figure was 43%, worth about £241bn, and it has indeed fallen from about 54% in 2006.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43212899

It's time to broaden our outlook and our markets ........and a drop in the pound to dollar will be of benefit to our exporters ..........



Hmm. So no list then.


Seeing as their economy is starting to tank.......I expect Germany will be at the top of the list if we leave with No Deal ............

userBarryd999
Posted: 19 January 2019 1:28 AM
Subject: RE: Powerful speech
 


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pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:49 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-18 10:45 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 2:45 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-18 11:54 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:02 AM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 8:13 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-17 10:51 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-17 3:17 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 10:49 PM......................
It's curious then that we have achieved the best employment figures since the 70's..........
AFTER we voted for Brexit ......................
I seem to recall the prediction coming from George Osborne was that we'd lose 820,000 jobs within 2 years of the vote ..........
Moral?..........Don't believe the Remoaner doom & gloom merchants .........

Those were the forecast outcomes of Brexit, not just of the vote. If you want to prove the forecasts wrong, wait for two years after Brexit - if you dare!

The employment figures reflect four things. First, the percentage of people of working age currently in employment. Second, the number of people who need to work to maintain their families. Third, the increased size of the population over the same period. Fourth, the number of available jobs. If the forecasts are right - even approximately - the most visible effect will be a reduction in the number of available job vacancies, followed shortly by a rise in unemployment. If business contracts, as seems pretty much inevitable post Brexit (but what form of Brexit?), who will employ all those people? It ain't that difficult, is it?

That was the forecasts of what would happen IMMEDIATELY if we voted for Brexit Brian ..........
We were also told there would be an immediate punishment budget ..........
The only one that got punished was Osborne for spouting total b*llocks ..........

You're ducking the issues, Dave. First, there was a reaction to the vote. Sterling lost value. Second, the actual form of Brexit remains unclear, but a number of firms are now relocating elsewhere, or have put their future investment plans on hold. Those based in the UK to gain access to the EU will be unlikely to remain in the UK in the longer term. Jobs are going, and will continue to do so unless it is clear that tariff free access to the EU market is maintained. The problem with having your head in the sand, is that it leaves your nether end very exposed!


First..........Yep sterling dropped to levels last seen in 2010 .........

Second.....There's nothing unclear about a No Deal .......

The problem with having your head stuck up the EU's backside, is you cant see the rest of the world that WANTS to trade with us ...........



Your forgetting that it dropped to a 35 year low against the dollar Dave not everything revolves around the Euro exchange rate and how much more your Spanish plonk costs.

The rest of the world wants to trade with us? Really? If you can produce a list that comes remotely close to the trade deals we have already with the EU and the rest of the world as being part of the EU by lunchtime ill promise to vote leave in the up and coming referendum.


Our exports to the EU have dropped continually since 2006 ..........

The figure for 44% of UK trade being with the EU was cited a lot during the EU Referendum - it's actually a 2015 figure just for exports of goods and services. The 2016 figure was 43%, worth about £241bn, and it has indeed fallen from about 54% in 2006.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43212899

It's time to broaden our outlook and our markets ........and a drop in the pound to dollar will be of benefit to our exporters ..........



Hmm. So no list then.


Seeing as their economy is starting to tank.......I expect Germany will be at the top of the list if we leave with No Deal ............



WTF? That will be doing a deal with the EU then. Just so you know, we already have one, a very good one.
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Posted: 19 January 2019 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: Powerful speech
 


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Barryd999 - 2019-01-19 1:28 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:49 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-18 10:45 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 2:45 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-18 11:54 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-18 10:02 AM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-18 8:13 AM

pelmetman - 2019-01-17 10:51 PM

Brian Kirby - 2019-01-17 3:17 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-16 10:49 PM......................
It's curious then that we have achieved the best employment figures since the 70's..........
AFTER we voted for Brexit ......................
I seem to recall the prediction coming from George Osborne was that we'd lose 820,000 jobs within 2 years of the vote ..........
Moral?..........Don't believe the Remoaner doom & gloom merchants .........

Those were the forecast outcomes of Brexit, not just of the vote. If you want to prove the forecasts wrong, wait for two years after Brexit - if you dare!

The employment figures reflect four things. First, the percentage of people of working age currently in employment. Second, the number of people who need to work to maintain their families. Third, the increased size of the population over the same period. Fourth, the number of available jobs. If the forecasts are right - even approximately - the most visible effect will be a reduction in the number of available job vacancies, followed shortly by a rise in unemployment. If business contracts, as seems pretty much inevitable post Brexit (but what form of Brexit?), who will employ all those people? It ain't that difficult, is it?

That was the forecasts of what would happen IMMEDIATELY if we voted for Brexit Brian ..........
We were also told there would be an immediate punishment budget ..........
The only one that got punished was Osborne for spouting total b*llocks ..........

You're ducking the issues, Dave. First, there was a reaction to the vote. Sterling lost value. Second, the actual form of Brexit remains unclear, but a number of firms are now relocating elsewhere, or have put their future investment plans on hold. Those based in the UK to gain access to the EU will be unlikely to remain in the UK in the longer term. Jobs are going, and will continue to do so unless it is clear that tariff free access to the EU market is maintained. The problem with having your head in the sand, is that it leaves your nether end very exposed!


First..........Yep sterling dropped to levels last seen in 2010 .........

Second.....There's nothing unclear about a No Deal .......

The problem with having your head stuck up the EU's backside, is you cant see the rest of the world that WANTS to trade with us ...........



Your forgetting that it dropped to a 35 year low against the dollar Dave not everything revolves around the Euro exchange rate and how much more your Spanish plonk costs.

The rest of the world wants to trade with us? Really? If you can produce a list that comes remotely close to the trade deals we have already with the EU and the rest of the world as being part of the EU by lunchtime ill promise to vote leave in the up and coming referendum.


Our exports to the EU have dropped continually since 2006 ..........

The figure for 44% of UK trade being with the EU was cited a lot during the EU Referendum - it's actually a 2015 figure just for exports of goods and services. The 2016 figure was 43%, worth about £241bn, and it has indeed fallen from about 54% in 2006.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43212899

It's time to broaden our outlook and our markets ........and a drop in the pound to dollar will be of benefit to our exporters ..........



Hmm. So no list then.


Seeing as their economy is starting to tank.......I expect Germany will be at the top of the list if we leave with No Deal ............



WTF? That will be doing a deal with the EU then. Just so you know, we already have one, a very good one.


Our current deal costs us billions........Would you pay someone to buy your goods or services? .........

If so...........How much will you pay me to take one of those dodgy laptops off you? ..........



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