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Posted: 14 January 2020 1:53 PM
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What a sad world when young girls up and down the country have been raped by gangs of Asian men , vast majority Muslim because the authorities daren't risk racial tensions ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7885313/Child-victims-grooming-gangs-failed-Manchester-police-report-finds.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK ... Why on earth wouldnt decent Muslims want these gangs exposed as filthy perverts ??? ... We still sickeningly have deniers though as we know
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Posted: 14 January 2020 3:05 PM
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My town ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-51052137 ... Forced to have sex with up to 300 mainly Muslim men ... Shocking ... Shame on many for allowing this
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Posted: 14 January 2020 3:44 PM
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The ITV lunchtime News had the Manchester story in its bulletin today. I expect it will get lots of publicity and nobody will be prosecuted. A female Detective was pilloried and sacked because she would not be silenced, it cost her her job, her home and her health by speaking out.
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Posted: 14 January 2020 7:03 PM
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747 - 2020-01-14 3:44 PM

The ITV lunchtime News had the Manchester story in its bulletin today. I expect it will get lots of publicity and nobody will be prosecuted. A female Detective was pilloried and sacked because she would not be silenced, it cost her her job, her home and her health by speaking out.


Shocking isnt it ... Thousands of underage girls raped up and down this country quite simply because those in positions of power were scared of being labelled racist or Islamaphobic ... We see sumat similar on here by the usuals if the topic contents uncomfortable for their stomachs they puke out the same old unproven insults ... Personally I'd rather be called those names and stand up for underage young white girls , others choose a different path
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Posted: 14 January 2020 8:39 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-01-14 7:03 PM

747 - 2020-01-14 3:44 PM

The ITV lunchtime News had the Manchester story in its bulletin today. I expect it will get lots of publicity and nobody will be prosecuted. A female Detective was pilloried and sacked because she would not be silenced, it cost her her job, her home and her health by speaking out.


Shocking isnt it ... Thousands of underage girls raped up and down this country quite simply because those in positions of power were scared of being labelled racist or Islamaphobic ... We see sumat similar on here by the usuals if the topic contents uncomfortable for their stomachs they puke out the same old unproven insults ... Personally I'd rather be called those names and stand up for underage young white girls , others choose a different path


It takes guts to stand up for people in desperate need. The easy way out is to make excuses in case someones feelings get hurt ... and that way you cannot be called a racist, little Englander etc.
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Posted: 14 January 2020 10:14 PM
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Fast Pat - 2020-01-14 8:48 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-01-14 7:03 PM
Personally I'd rather be called those names and stand up for underage young white girls , others choose a different path


Personally I'd rather not use language or behaviour that allows others to call me names and to stand up for vulnerable people of all ages, races and sex. A much easier path to walk.


Oh dear, have you had your feelings hurt?

Never mind, you are a grown man and will get over it without resorting to nasty, sneaky, underhand tricks .... won't you?
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Posted: 15 January 2020 6:09 AM
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Fast Pat - 2020-01-14 8:48 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-01-14 7:03 PM
Personally I'd rather be called those names and stand up for underage young white girls , others choose a different path


Personally I'd rather not use language or behaviour that allows others to call me names and to stand up for vulnerable people of all ages, races and sex. A much easier path to walk.


Personally I would rather not see underage white girls raped on an industrial scale ... Each to their own though

Edited by Birdbrain 2020-01-15 6:24 AM
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Posted: 15 January 2020 7:40 AM
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747 - 2020-01-14 10:14 PM

Fast Pat - 2020-01-14 8:48 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-01-14 7:03 PM
Personally I'd rather be called those names and stand up for underage young white girls , others choose a different path


Personally I'd rather not use language or behaviour that allows others to call me names and to stand up for vulnerable people of all ages, races and sex. A much easier path to walk.


Oh dear, have you had your feelings hurt?

Never mind, you are a grown man and will get over it without resorting to nasty, sneaky, underhand tricks .... won't you?


Well ,you could say that about everyone else .
userBirdbrain
Posted: 15 January 2020 9:26 AM
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Fast Pat - 2020-01-15 7:21 AM

Birdbrain - 2020-01-15 6:09 AM

Fast Pat - 2020-01-14 8:48 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-01-14 7:03 PM
Personally I'd rather be called those names and stand up for underage young white girls , others choose a different path


Personally I'd rather not use language or behaviour that allows others to call me names and to stand up for vulnerable people of all ages, races and sex. A much easier path to walk.


Personally I would rather not see underage white girls raped on an industrial scale ... Each to their own though


But why single out white girls? Any normal person would simply say they did "not want to see underage girls raped on an industrial scale. "


I dont know why Muslim sex gangs singled out underage white girls ... Maybe they gave an insight on how they look on white girls when they called them white sluts , white bitches etc etc
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Posted: 15 January 2020 10:01 AM
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Fast Pat - 2020-01-15 9:37 AM

You see what I cannot understand in your position is the lack of sympathy you showed for Shamima Begum, a British Muslim who was targeted for online grooming by ISIS and left her East London home to join ISIS in Syria in 2015 when she was 15-years-old?

Why the double standard? All sexual abuse of children by anyone should be condemned, racial group of either the perpetrator or the victim is not relevant.


What double standard?

Begum was, for a number of years, quite happy to be part of ISIS until it all started going downhill and she wanted a way out. She was certainly not putting her childrens welfare first as they would be still alive today. She was not plied with addictive drugs or alcohol to make her compliant.
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Posted: 15 January 2020 10:38 AM
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Fast Pat - 2020-01-15 10:37 AM

Why the double standard? All sexual abuse of children by anyone should be condemned, racial group of either the perpetrator or the victim is not relevant.


I have never seen a better example of virtue-signalling liberalism overriding intelligent discourse. One group of society, men of Pakistani and mainly Muslim background, groom and rape only young white girls. For you to ignore this is staggering. Next you'll be saying that we shouldn't have the audacity to state that Hitler gassed 6 million Jews, as 'normal people' would just see 6 million victims. No you fool. Hitler gassed them because they were Jews, no other reason. These vile grooming gangs targeted them because they were white. Why did they never target the girls in their own community? Pakistani Muslim girls often grow up in conservative households, households where women must go out covered from head to toe, households where women are the property of men, not their partners. These people see white girls, who are free to have boy friends and wear mini-skirts, as no better then whores and have no compassion for them as human beings.

To ignore the obvious factors in these cases and to try to suggest that race and even religion should not be considered factors is beyond imbecilic. It is only by confronting the ugly truth that we can deal with it and prevent it from happening again.

Finally, it was your kind of appalling 'enlightened' liberalism that resulted in hundreds more cases, because social workers refused to accept the racial element and persuaded the police not to prosecute for fear of upsetting 'community relations', and so it went on. You and your ilk have the disgraceful abuse of hundreds of teenagers on your brainless consciences.

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Posted: 15 January 2020 12:04 PM
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Fast Pat - 2020-01-15 9:37 AM

You see what I cannot understand in your position is the lack of sympathy you showed for Shamima Begum, a British Muslim who was targeted for online grooming by ISIS and left her East London home to join ISIS in Syria in 2015 when she was 15-years-old?

Why the double standard? All sexual abuse of children by anyone should be condemned, racial group of either the perpetrator or the victim is not relevant.


"You see what I cannot understand" ... Well what you normally dont understand you run off to the fuzz screaming about so dont break the habit of a lifetime and go tell ... Boo-hoo
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Posted: 15 January 2020 2:55 PM
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Former CPS head Nazir Afzal gave a more informed and balanced opinion on C4 news last night where he said the matter 'needs to be put into perspective and Manchester is not a stand alone case' and refers to there being less resources....ie, fewer police officers, fewer prosecutors, child services specialists etc. He went on to mention Johnson himself only a few months ago said dealing with child sex abuse was like 'spaffing money up a wall'. An unfortunate comment but apparently senior police officers agreed and decided it was not something they were going to spend their limited resources on.

Both Newman and Afzal referred to the perpetrators ethnicity as, 'predominantly British Asian or British Pakistani men', though the BBC link mentioned neither and the DM simply stated, 'Asian men'. Neither Afzal or either of the linked reports made presumptions of their religion (if any!), which makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi9d8v-3L3Y&t=5m35s
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Posted: 15 January 2020 4:16 PM
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Fast Pat - 2020-01-15 2:49 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-01-15 12:04 PM

Fast Pat - 2020-01-15 9:37 AM

You see what I cannot understand in your position is the lack of sympathy you showed for Shamima Begum, a British Muslim who was targeted for online grooming by ISIS and left her East London home to join ISIS in Syria in 2015 when she was 15-years-old?

Why the double standard? All sexual abuse of children by anyone should be condemned, racial group of either the perpetrator or the victim is not relevant.


"You see what I cannot understand" ... Well what you normally dont understand you run off to the fuzz screaming about so dont break the habit of a lifetime and go tell ... Boo-hoo


A bit of deflection because you can't justify your double standards.


"double standards" ??? ... You couldn't make it up ... Well you could I suppose ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntswPN4Ed4A
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Posted: 15 January 2020 4:26 PM
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Former CPS head Nazir Afzal gave a more informed and balanced opinion on C4 news last night where he said the matter 'needs to be put into perspective and Manchester is not a stand alone case' and refers to there being less resources....ie, fewer police officers, fewer prosecutors, child services specialists etc. He went on to mention Johnson himself only a few months ago said dealing with child sex abuse was like 'spaffing money up a wall'. An unfortunate comment but apparently senior police officers agreed and decided it was not something they were going to spend their limited resources on.

Both Newman and Afzal referred to the perpetrators ethnicity as, 'predominantly British Asian or British Pakistani men', though the BBC link mentioned neither and the DM simply stated, 'Asian men'. Neither Afzal or either of the linked reports made presumptions of their religion (if any!), which makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi9d8v-3L3Y&t=5m35s


Shamefully your tarnishing a lot of other 'Asian men" ... When I see the pics of those perverts and read the endless list of names from endless Muslim rape gangs up and down this country I dont see any Japanese , Korean , Vietnamese , Indonesians etc etc , stop insulting decent Asians ... The thing that links the rape gangs is Islam and the gangs are 99% Muslim males ... They are Muslim male sex gangs preying on white underage girls and when they get sentenced many go them go down shouting Allahu Akbar ... Defend away princess
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Posted: 15 January 2020 4:46 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-01-15 4:26 PM

Bulletguy - 2020-01-15 2:55 PM


Former CPS head Nazir Afzal gave a more informed and balanced opinion on C4 news last night where he said the matter 'needs to be put into perspective and Manchester is not a stand alone case' and refers to there being less resources....ie, fewer police officers, fewer prosecutors, child services specialists etc. He went on to mention Johnson himself only a few months ago said dealing with child sex abuse was like 'spaffing money up a wall'. An unfortunate comment but apparently senior police officers agreed and decided it was not something they were going to spend their limited resources on.

Both Newman and Afzal referred to the perpetrators ethnicity as, 'predominantly British Asian or British Pakistani men', though the BBC link mentioned neither and the DM simply stated, 'Asian men'. Neither Afzal or either of the linked reports made presumptions of their religion (if any!), which makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi9d8v-3L3Y&t=5m35s


Shamefully your tarnishing a lot of other 'Asian men" ...

Not at all. I quoted what Nazir Afzal referred to them as...."British Pakistani and British Asian".

When I see the pics of those perverts and read the endless list of names from endless Muslim rape gangs...They are Muslim male sex gangs.

Where in either of the articles you linked including the DM, or the interview Afzal gave, did it specifically state their religious faith?
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Posted: 15 January 2020 5:17 PM
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-15 4:46 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-01-15 4:26 PM

Bulletguy - 2020-01-15 2:55 PM


Former CPS head Nazir Afzal gave a more informed and balanced opinion on C4 news last night where he said the matter 'needs to be put into perspective and Manchester is not a stand alone case' and refers to there being less resources....ie, fewer police officers, fewer prosecutors, child services specialists etc. He went on to mention Johnson himself only a few months ago said dealing with child sex abuse was like 'spaffing money up a wall'. An unfortunate comment but apparently senior police officers agreed and decided it was not something they were going to spend their limited resources on.

Both Newman and Afzal referred to the perpetrators ethnicity as, 'predominantly British Asian or British Pakistani men', though the BBC link mentioned neither and the DM simply stated, 'Asian men'. Neither Afzal or either of the linked reports made presumptions of their religion (if any!), which makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi9d8v-3L3Y&t=5m35s


Shamefully your tarnishing a lot of other 'Asian men" ...

Not at all. I quoted what Nazir Afzal referred to them as...."British Pakistani and British Asian".

When I see the pics of those perverts and read the endless list of names from endless Muslim rape gangs...They are Muslim male sex gangs.

Where in either of the articles you linked including the DM, or the interview Afzal gave, did it specifically state their religious faith?


Given you seem to take on board what Mr Afzal says , he says and you say "British Pakistani" ... Now given 98% of Pakistan follows Islam I would say its a pretty safe bet to say they are Muslims wouldnt you and given what you conveniently ignore regarding some of them screaming out Allahu Akbar when sentenced I dont believe they are Jewish ... Defend away
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Posted: 15 January 2020 5:24 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-01-15 4:26 PM

Bulletguy - 2020-01-15 2:55 PM


Former CPS head Nazir Afzal gave a more informed and balanced opinion on C4 news last night where he said the matter 'needs to be put into perspective and Manchester is not a stand alone case' and refers to there being less resources....ie, fewer police officers, fewer prosecutors, child services specialists etc. He went on to mention Johnson himself only a few months ago said dealing with child sex abuse was like 'spaffing money up a wall'. An unfortunate comment but apparently senior police officers agreed and decided it was not something they were going to spend their limited resources on.

Both Newman and Afzal referred to the perpetrators ethnicity as, 'predominantly British Asian or British Pakistani men', though the BBC link mentioned neither and the DM simply stated, 'Asian men'. Neither Afzal or either of the linked reports made presumptions of their religion (if any!), which makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi9d8v-3L3Y&t=5m35s


Shamefully your tarnishing a lot of other 'Asian men" ... When I see the pics of those perverts and read the endless list of names from endless Muslim rape gangs up and down this country I dont see any Japanese , Korean , Vietnamese , Indonesians etc etc , stop insulting decent Asians ... The thing that links the rape gangs is Islam and the gangs are 99% Muslim males ... They are Muslim male sex gangs preying on white underage girls and when they get sentenced many go them go down shouting Allahu Akbar ... Defend away princess


Nothing much wrong with shouting Allahu Akbar , any more than a Christian saying god be with you.
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Posted: 15 January 2020 5:35 PM
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-15 5:46 PM

Where in either of the articles you linked including the DM, or the interview Afzal gave, did it specifically state their religious faith?


What's the deepest you've ever buried your silly left-wing head in the sand?

From the Wiki article, linked below: 'In a BBC documentary investigating grooming young girls for sex by some Pakistani men, Imam Irfan Chishti from the Rochdale Council of Mosques deplored the practice, saying it was "very shocking to see fellow British Muslims brought to court for this kind of horrific offence." Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, accused elders of the Pakistani community of "burying their heads in the sand" on the matter of sexual grooming. He said that of convictions involving child sexual exploitation, 87% were of British Pakistani men and it was a significant problem for that community. He said the actions of criminals who thought "white teenage girls are worthless and can be abused" were "bringing shame on our community."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring

Here's another from a dozen I could link to.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/09/the-silence-surrounding-grooming-gangs/

Your attitude is bewildering. Your knee-jerk reaction is to defend accusations that they're Muslims when the evidence in every grooming trial is overwhelming. As I said, it is the attitude of people such as you which meant that these cases carried on unchecked and allowed hundreds more vulnerable teenagers to be raped and abused. Your 'right-on' virtue signalling is disgraceful and verges on wicked. It is only by identifying and publicising the fact that this problem revolves around the upbringing and cultural indoctrination of these individuals that the problem can be addressed.

It is Islam and its Pakistani adherents who are mainly responsible. It is the attitude to women, to modesty and to sexuality that is embedded in their culture, beliefs and upbringing that is responsible. They see white British teenagers with their boyfriends and mini-skirts as whores and therefore not worthy of respect.

To avoid the religious element to this is beyond imbecilic and has resulted in hundreds more lives being destroyed.
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Posted: 15 January 2020 5:35 PM
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Former CPS head Nazir Afzal gave a more informed and balanced opinion on C4 news last night where he said the matter 'needs to be put into perspective and Manchester is not a stand alone case' and refers to there being less resources....ie, fewer police officers, fewer prosecutors, child services specialists etc. He went on to mention Johnson himself only a few months ago said dealing with child sex abuse was like 'spaffing money up a wall'. An unfortunate comment but apparently senior police officers agreed and decided it was not something they were going to spend their limited resources on.

Both Newman and Afzal referred to the perpetrators ethnicity as, 'predominantly British Asian or British Pakistani men', though the BBC link mentioned neither and the DM simply stated, 'Asian men'. Neither Afzal or either of the linked reports made presumptions of their religion (if any!), which makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi9d8v-3L3Y&t=5m35s


Shamefully your tarnishing a lot of other 'Asian men" ... When I see the pics of those perverts and read the endless list of names from endless Muslim rape gangs up and down this country I dont see any Japanese , Korean , Vietnamese , Indonesians etc etc , stop insulting decent Asians ... The thing that links the rape gangs is Islam and the gangs are 99% Muslim males ... They are Muslim male sex gangs preying on white underage girls and when they get sentenced many go them go down shouting Allahu Akbar ... Defend away princess


Nothing much wrong with shouting Allahu Akbar , any more than a Christian saying god be with you.


You can show us where a pervert Christian gang have just been convicted of raping underage black/asian girls and shouted out "God be with you" ??? ... No thought not ... Princess stick to CBeebies forum
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Posted: 15 January 2020 5:37 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-01-15 5:17 PM

Bulletguy - 2020-01-15 4:46 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-01-15 4:26 PM

Bulletguy - 2020-01-15 2:55 PM


Former CPS head Nazir Afzal gave a more informed and balanced opinion on C4 news last night where he said the matter 'needs to be put into perspective and Manchester is not a stand alone case' and refers to there being less resources....ie, fewer police officers, fewer prosecutors, child services specialists etc. He went on to mention Johnson himself only a few months ago said dealing with child sex abuse was like 'spaffing money up a wall'. An unfortunate comment but apparently senior police officers agreed and decided it was not something they were going to spend their limited resources on.

Both Newman and Afzal referred to the perpetrators ethnicity as, 'predominantly British Asian or British Pakistani men', though the BBC link mentioned neither and the DM simply stated, 'Asian men'. Neither Afzal or either of the linked reports made presumptions of their religion (if any!), which makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi9d8v-3L3Y&t=5m35s


Shamefully your tarnishing a lot of other 'Asian men" ...

Not at all. I quoted what Nazir Afzal referred to them as...."British Pakistani and British Asian".

When I see the pics of those perverts and read the endless list of names from endless Muslim rape gangs...They are Muslim male sex gangs.

Where in either of the articles you linked including the DM, or the interview Afzal gave, did it specifically state their religious faith?


Given you seem to take on board what Mr Afzal says , he says and you say "British Pakistani" ... Now given 98% of Pakistan follows Islam I would say its a pretty safe bet to say they are Muslims.

According to wiki British Pakistani demographics account for 38% in England and Wales with 91.46% overall so your presumption of them being Muslim faith is based on little other than your known dislike of Muslims per se. As i've said many times before, a crime irrespective of the nature, is not defined by any particular faith at all as crime has no boundaries.....hence the reason we never publish headlines such as "Christian man commits sex assault".

You should listen more carefully to the interview Nazir Afzal gave that i linked.
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Posted: 15 January 2020 5:39 PM
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Where in either of the articles you linked including the DM, or the interview Afzal gave, did it specifically state their religious faith?


What's the deepest you've ever buried your silly left-wing head in the sand?

From the Wiki article, linked below: 'In a BBC documentary investigating grooming young girls for sex by some Pakistani men, Imam Irfan Chishti from the Rochdale Council of Mosques deplored the practice, saying it was "very shocking to see fellow British Muslims brought to court for this kind of horrific offence." Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, accused elders of the Pakistani community of "burying their heads in the sand" on the matter of sexual grooming. He said that of convictions involving child sexual exploitation, 87% were of British Pakistani men and it was a significant problem for that community. He said the actions of criminals who thought "white teenage girls are worthless and can be abused" were "bringing shame on our community."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring

Here's another from a dozen I could link to.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/09/the-silence-surrounding-grooming-gangs/

Your attitude is bewildering. Your knee-jerk reaction is to defend accusations that they're Muslims when the evidence in every grooming trial is overwhelming. As I said, it is the attitude of people such as you which meant that these cases carried on unchecked and allowed hundreds more vulnerable teenagers to be raped and abused. Your 'right-on' virtue signalling is disgraceful and verges on wicked. It is only by identifying and publicising the fact that this problem revolves around the upbringing and cultural indoctrination of these individuals that the problem can be addressed.

It is Islam and its Pakistani adherents who are mainly responsible. It is the attitude to women, to modesty and to sexuality that is embedded in their culture, beliefs and upbringing that is responsible. They see white British teenagers with their boyfriends and mini-skirts as whores and therefore not worthy of respect.

To avoid the religious element to this is beyond imbecilic and has resulted in hundreds more lives being destroyed.


Disagree ... Avoiding the religious element has resulted in thousands more lives being destroyed not hundreds ... Its not just the victims of these Muslim perverts but the families that suffer ... Evil they are and the defenders are just as evil
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jumpstart - 2020-01-15 6:24 PM

Nothing much wrong with shouting Allahu Akbar , any more than a Christian saying god be with you.


He didn't say that there was anything wrong with it. The point he is making is that it is a phrase mainly used by Muslims.

From Wikipedia: The Takbir is the Arabic phrase Allahu akbar "God is [the] greatest". It is a common Islamic Arabic expression, used in various contexts by Muslims........
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Former CPS head Nazir Afzal gave a more informed and balanced opinion on C4 news last night where he said the matter 'needs to be put into perspective and Manchester is not a stand alone case' and refers to there being less resources....ie, fewer police officers, fewer prosecutors, child services specialists etc. He went on to mention Johnson himself only a few months ago said dealing with child sex abuse was like 'spaffing money up a wall'. An unfortunate comment but apparently senior police officers agreed and decided it was not something they were going to spend their limited resources on.

Both Newman and Afzal referred to the perpetrators ethnicity as, 'predominantly British Asian or British Pakistani men', though the BBC link mentioned neither and the DM simply stated, 'Asian men'. Neither Afzal or either of the linked reports made presumptions of their religion (if any!), which makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi9d8v-3L3Y&t=5m35s


Shamefully your tarnishing a lot of other 'Asian men" ...

Not at all. I quoted what Nazir Afzal referred to them as...."British Pakistani and British Asian".

When I see the pics of those perverts and read the endless list of names from endless Muslim rape gangs...They are Muslim male sex gangs.

Where in either of the articles you linked including the DM, or the interview Afzal gave, did it specifically state their religious faith?


Given you seem to take on board what Mr Afzal says , he says and you say "British Pakistani" ... Now given 98% of Pakistan follows Islam I would say its a pretty safe bet to say they are Muslims.

According to wiki British Pakistani demographics account for 38% in England and Wales with 91.46% overall so your presumption of them being Muslim faith is based on little other than your known dislike of Muslims per se. As i've said many times before, a crime irrespective of the nature, is not defined by any particular faith at all as crime has no boundaries.....hence the reason we never publish headlines such as "Christian man commits sex assault".

You should listen more carefully to the interview Nazir Afzal gave that i linked.


Show anything , owt to back up your claim of my "known dislike of Muslims per se" please ??? ... If you cant and I am pretty confident you cant your whole argument has just been lost ... Your an utter disgrace ... Its a comfort to know that those who should care for you obviously dont
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Where in either of the articles you linked including the DM, or the interview Afzal gave, did it specifically state their religious faith?


What's the deepest you've ever buried your silly left-wing head in the sand?

From the Wiki article, linked below: 'In a BBC documentary investigating grooming young girls for sex by some Pakistani men, Imam Irfan Chishti from the Rochdale Council of Mosques deplored the practice, saying it was "very shocking to see fellow British Muslims brought to court for this kind of horrific offence." Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, accused elders of the Pakistani community of "burying their heads in the sand" on the matter of sexual grooming. He said that of convictions involving child sexual exploitation, 87% were of British Pakistani men and it was a significant problem for that community. He said the actions of criminals who thought "white teenage girls are worthless and can be abused" were "bringing shame on our community."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring

Here's another from a dozen I could link to.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/09/the-silence-surrounding-grooming-gangs/

Your attitude is bewildering. Your knee-jerk reaction is to defend accusations that they're Muslims when the evidence in every grooming trial is overwhelming. As I said, it is the attitude of people such as you which meant that these cases carried on unchecked and allowed hundreds more vulnerable teenagers to be raped and abused. Your 'right-on' virtue signalling is disgraceful and verges on wicked. It is only by identifying and publicising the fact that this problem revolves around the upbringing and cultural indoctrination of these individuals that the problem can be addressed.

It is Islam and its Pakistani adherents who are mainly responsible. It is the attitude to women, to modesty and to sexuality that is embedded in their culture, beliefs and upbringing that is responsible. They see white British teenagers with their boyfriends and mini-skirts as whores and therefore not worthy of respect.

To avoid the religious element to this is beyond imbecilic and has resulted in hundreds more lives being destroyed.


Disagree ... Avoiding the religious element has resulted in thousands more lives being destroyed not hundreds ... Its not just the victims of these Muslim perverts but the families that suffer ... Evil they are and the defenders are just as evil


I agree entirely, these sympathisers and excuse-merchants for these animals have the pain and suffering of thousands of young girls on their consciences.
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-15 2:55 PM


Former CPS head Nazir Afzal gave a more informed and balanced opinion on C4 news last night where he said the matter 'needs to be put into perspective and Manchester is not a stand alone case' and refers to there being less resources....ie, fewer police officers, fewer prosecutors, child services specialists etc. He went on to mention Johnson himself only a few months ago said dealing with child sex abuse was like 'spaffing money up a wall'. An unfortunate comment but apparently senior police officers agreed and decided it was not something they were going to spend their limited resources on.

Both Newman and Afzal referred to the perpetrators ethnicity as, 'predominantly British Asian or British Pakistani men', though the BBC link mentioned neither and the DM simply stated, 'Asian men'. Neither Afzal or either of the linked reports made presumptions of their religion (if any!), which makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi9d8v-3L3Y&t=5m35s


"there being less resources....ie, fewer police officers, fewer prosecutors, child services specialists etc".

These gangs have been operating for many years (as some prosecutions have proved), in a time when there were MORE Police Officers, Prosecutors and Child Social Services. So in my opinion the argument doesn't hold water. What is apparent is a lack of application by those Public Servants.

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Bulletguy - 2020-01-15 6:37 PM

As i've said many times before, a crime irrespective of the nature, is not defined by any particular faith at all as crime has no boundaries.....hence the reason we never publish headlines such as "Christian man commits sex assault".

You should listen more carefully to the interview Nazir Afzal gave that i linked.


Utterly brainless statement. If a religion's culture is what leads its adherents to commit certain crimes then obviously that religion should be in the discussion.

How many Sikhs or Jains or Buddhists from the Indian sub-continent have been engaged in these grooming gangs?

And this from the man who couldn't resist starting a thread about Jewish men allegedly raping a British girl in Cyprus. You have never started a thread highlighting the grooming gangs of Pakistani men and there have been dozens, but just one offence is allegedly committed by Israelis and you can't wait to gloat. And next you'll be claiming that they may not be Jews!

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Former CPS head Nazir Afzal gave a more informed and balanced opinion on C4 news last night where he said the matter 'needs to be put into perspective and Manchester is not a stand alone case' and refers to there being less resources....ie, fewer police officers, fewer prosecutors, child services specialists etc. He went on to mention Johnson himself only a few months ago said dealing with child sex abuse was like 'spaffing money up a wall'. An unfortunate comment but apparently senior police officers agreed and decided it was not something they were going to spend their limited resources on.

Both Newman and Afzal referred to the perpetrators ethnicity as, 'predominantly British Asian or British Pakistani men', though the BBC link mentioned neither and the DM simply stated, 'Asian men'. Neither Afzal or either of the linked reports made presumptions of their religion (if any!), which makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi9d8v-3L3Y&t=5m35s


Shamefully your tarnishing a lot of other 'Asian men" ... When I see the pics of those perverts and read the endless list of names from endless Muslim rape gangs up and down this country I dont see any Japanese , Korean , Vietnamese , Indonesians etc etc , stop insulting decent Asians ... The thing that links the rape gangs is Islam and the gangs are 99% Muslim males ... They are Muslim male sex gangs preying on white underage girls and when they get sentenced many go them go down shouting Allahu Akbar ... Defend away princess


Nothing much wrong with shouting Allahu Akbar , any more than a Christian saying god be with you.


You can show us where a pervert Christian gang have just been convicted of raping underage black/asian girls and shouted out "God be with you" ??? ... No thought not ... Princess stick to CBeebies forum


Got nothing to do with sex ,rape, pillage, or anything other than it’s a religious phrase. Didn’t know the CBeebies had a forum...what’s on it?

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Bulletguy - 2020-01-15 2:55 PM


Former CPS head Nazir Afzal gave a more informed and balanced opinion on C4 news last night where he said the matter 'needs to be put into perspective and Manchester is not a stand alone case' and refers to there being less resources....ie, fewer police officers, fewer prosecutors, child services specialists etc. He went on to mention Johnson himself only a few months ago said dealing with child sex abuse was like 'spaffing money up a wall'. An unfortunate comment but apparently senior police officers agreed and decided it was not something they were going to spend their limited resources on.

Both Newman and Afzal referred to the perpetrators ethnicity as, 'predominantly British Asian or British Pakistani men', though the BBC link mentioned neither and the DM simply stated, 'Asian men'. Neither Afzal or either of the linked reports made presumptions of their religion (if any!), which makes sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi9d8v-3L3Y&t=5m35s


Shamefully your tarnishing a lot of other 'Asian men" ... When I see the pics of those perverts and read the endless list of names from endless Muslim rape gangs up and down this country I dont see any Japanese , Korean , Vietnamese , Indonesians etc etc , stop insulting decent Asians ... The thing that links the rape gangs is Islam and the gangs are 99% Muslim males ... They are Muslim male sex gangs preying on white underage girls and when they get sentenced many go them go down shouting Allahu Akbar ... Defend away princess


Nothing much wrong with shouting Allahu Akbar , any more than a Christian saying god be with you.


You can show us where a pervert Christian gang have just been convicted of raping underage black/asian girls and shouted out "God be with you" ??? ... No thought not ... Princess stick to CBeebies forum


Got nothing to do with sex ,rape, pillage, or anything other than it’s a religious phrase. Didn’t know the CBeebies had a forum...what’s on it?


Take it thats a defo no then sweet cheeks ... You seen the film Dumb and Dumber ??? ... You got a brother ???
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As i've said many times before, a crime irrespective of the nature, is not defined by any particular faith at all as crime has no boundaries.....hence the reason we never publish headlines such as "Christian man commits sex assault".

You should listen more carefully to the interview Nazir Afzal gave that i linked.


Utterly brainless statement. If a religion's culture is what leads its adherents to commit certain crimes then obviously that religion should be in the discussion.

How many Sikhs or Jains or Buddhists from the Indian sub-continent have been engaged in these grooming gangs?

And this from the man who couldn't resist starting a thread about Jewish men allegedly raping a British girl in Cyprus. You have never started a thread highlighting the grooming gangs of Pakistani men and there have been dozens, but just one offence is allegedly committed by Israelis and you can't wait to gloat. And next you'll be claiming that they may not be Jews!



Obviously you are quite incorrect. These sort of crimes are committed quite frequently in India and not just by Muslims. You think Jews don’t commit these crimes because they are Jews. Of coarse they commit these crimes and have a history of it going back thousands of years ,even before Muslims were thought off.
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