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pelmetman - 2021-08-08 9:00 AM

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9872325/Dont-drag-Labour-Tony-Blair-days-Left-warns-Sir-Keir-Starmer.html

 

Well Socialists do have a long and NASTY history of producing Warmongers *-) ...........

Actually, Jeremy Corbyn was the 'Socialist' who voted against Tory Bliar's illegal invasion of Iraq

Do you mean like Johnson did when he voted in favour of Tory Bliar's illegal invasion of Iraq?

 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9872325/Dont-drag-Labour-Tony-Blair-days-Left-warns-Sir-Keir-Starmer.html

 

Well Socialists do have a long and NASTY history of producing Warmongers *-) ...........

Actually, Jeremy Corbyn was the 'Socialist' who voted against Tory Bliar's illegal invasion of Iraq

 

Do you mean like Johnson did when he voted in favour of Tory Bliar's illegal invasion of Iraq?

He forgot about that so needs reminding of Johnsons penchant for warmongering;

 

The Iraq War

 

Mr Johnson supported military intervention in Iraq in 2003, backing prime minister Tony Blair’s efforts in several key votes.

 

He voted against seeking the support of the UN Security Council and the support of a vote of MPs before committing British armed forces to the conflict and in favour of all means necessary to destroy Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.

 

Mr Johnson also backed David Cameron’s failed attempt to bring about air strikes in Syria in 2015.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-voting-record-fox-iraq-climate-equality-immigration-tax-a9016691.html

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10999/boris_johnson/uxbridge_and_south_ruislip/divisions?policy=1049

 

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Well Socialists do have a long and NASTY history of producing Warmongers *-) ...........

Actually, Jeremy Corbyn was the 'Socialist' who voted against Tory Bliar's illegal invasion of Iraq

Do you mean like Johnson did when he voted in favour of Tory Bliar's illegal invasion of Iraq?

 

 

I assume that Dave is thinking ( again ) of that well known Austrian Trade Union Activist, Adolf Hitler.

 

He marketed his Political Party as Socialists, so Dave thinks he MUST have been one.

 

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pelmetman - 2021-08-08 9:00 AM

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9872325/Dont-drag-Labour-Tony-Blair-days-Left-warns-Sir-Keir-Starmer.html

 

Well Socialists do have a long and NASTY history of producing Warmongers *-) ...........

Actually, Jeremy Corbyn was the 'Socialist' who voted against Tory Bliar's illegal invasion of Iraq

Do you mean like Johnson did when he voted in favour of Tory Bliar's illegal invasion of Iraq?

 

 

I assume that Dave is thinking ( again ) of that well known Austrian Trade Union Activist, Adolf Hitler.

 

He marketed his Political Party as Socialists, so Dave thinks he MUST have been one.

 

:-D

 

There's no denying Socialist will vote for anyone who "claims" to be a "Socialist" ;-) ............

 

Their last leader was a Brit hating terrorist supporting Marxist 8-) .........

 

Their new leader is a Brit hating anti monachist Trot >:-) .........

 

I reckon the last time Labour had a actual Socialist as a leader was John Smith *-) ..........

 

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pelmetman - 2021-08-08 9:00 AM

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9872325/Dont-drag-Labour-Tony-Blair-days-Left-warns-Sir-Keir-Starmer.html

 

Well Socialists do have a long and NASTY history of producing Warmongers *-) ...........

Actually, Jeremy Corbyn was the 'Socialist' who voted against Tory Bliar's illegal invasion of Iraq

Do you mean like Johnson did when he voted in favour of Tory Bliar's illegal invasion of Iraq?

 

So you are blaming Boris for believing LABOURS LIES? ;-) ..........

 

Rest assured neither I or Boris or anyone with half a brain will make THAT mistake again (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2021-08-08 9:00 AM

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9872325/Dont-drag-Labour-Tony-Blair-days-Left-warns-Sir-Keir-Starmer.html

 

Well Socialists do have a long and NASTY history of producing Warmongers *-) ...........

Actually, Jeremy Corbyn was the 'Socialist' who voted against Tory Bliar's illegal invasion of Iraq

Do you mean like Johnson did when he voted in favour of Tory Bliar's illegal invasion of Iraq?

 

So you are blaming Boris for believing LABOURS LIES? ;-) ..........

I expect you're upset to find your "hero" Johnson openly supported and voted in support of the Iraq war. I'm not sure why as everyone knew, just as I have no doubt you were among those whooping with excitable glee at seeing the first barrage of cruise missiles going in.

 

Rest assured neither I or Boris or anyone with half a brain will make THAT mistake again (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

You don't have half a brain though which explains why you keep making mistakes. :-|

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John52 - 2021-08-09 9:19 AM

 

Jeremy Corbyn, the one who voted against Tory Bliar's illegal invasion, never really stood a chance did he? - when so much poison was instilled into the minds of voters by the £billionaire owned press. :-S

 

LABOURS Blair supplied the poison *-) ..........

 

 

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Jeremy Corbyn, the one who voted against Tory Bliar's illegal invasion, never really stood a chance did he? - when so much poison was instilled into the minds of voters by the £billionaire owned press. :-S

 

LABOURS Blair supplied the poison *-) ..........

 

 

NEW Labour

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John52 - 2021-08-09 9:19 AM

 

Jeremy Corbyn, the one who voted against Tory Bliar's illegal invasion, never really stood a chance did he? - when so much poison was instilled into the minds of voters by the £billionaire owned press. :-S

 

LABOURS Blair supplied the poison *-) ..........

 

 

NEW Labour

 

Which is still Labour ;-) ............

 

You cant disown your crimes just by changing your name *-) ............

 

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John52 - 2021-08-09 9:19 AM

 

Jeremy Corbyn, the one who voted against Tory Bliar's illegal invasion, never really stood a chance did he? - when so much poison was instilled into the minds of voters by the £billionaire owned press. :-S

 

LABOURS Blair supplied the poison *-) ..........

 

 

NEW Labour

 

Which is still Labour ;-) ............

 

You cant disown your crimes just by changing your name *-) ............

And you can't change history

I am not defending Tory Bliar - or Blatcher as he is called after Thatcher,

because they are so similar they praised each other.

-- Bliar even got the backing of Rupert Murdoch, so is far from a Socialist

But he is long gone.

Jeremy Corbyn and Kier Starmer have consistently voted AGAINST military intervention abroad.

Unlike Boris Johnson who has consistently voted FOR military intervention abroad

So why are you accusing the socialists of warmongering?

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pelmetman - 2021-08-09 8:37 AM

..................................So you are blaming Boris for believing LABOURS LIES? ;-) .......... Rest assured neither I or Boris or anyone with half a brain will make THAT mistake again (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Of course he is to blame for believing lies. Who else could possibly be to blame? To have believed any of Bush's Iraq tripe is totally beyond excusing.

 

He only voted in favour because Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was leading the charge.

 

If the Conservative opposition at the time had done its job properly Blair wouldn't have got his way. But no. Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was in charge, so what could possibly go wrong? Answer: Iraq and Afghanistan went wrong - and are still going wrong.

 

A few years later he (Johnson) becomes the UK's Conservative (= right wing, = ask no questions) Prime Minister.

 

Blind loyalty, they call it. I'm on the right, he's on the right, so he must be, well.......................right! :-D

 

What utter foolishness! I want a PM with 20/20 vision! I don't care which party he leads, just so long as s/he has clear vision and both eyes open.

 

So, given your common blind political backgrounds, I gain no comfort whatever from your assurance. Wherever a blind right wing leader goes, you will unquestioningly follow, even to hell in a handcart - if that is the blind leader goes!

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pelmetman - 2021-08-09 8:43 PM

 

John52 - 2021-08-09 8:32 PM

 

pelmetman - 2021-08-09 6:45 PM

 

John52 - 2021-08-09 9:19 AM

 

Jeremy Corbyn, the one who voted against Tory Bliar's illegal invasion, never really stood a chance did he? - when so much poison was instilled into the minds of voters by the £billionaire owned press. :-S

 

LABOURS Blair supplied the poison *-) ..........

 

 

NEW Labour

 

Which is still Labour ;-) ............

 

You cant disown your crimes just by changing your name *-) ............

And you can't change history

I am not defending Tory Bliar - or Blatcher as he is called after Thatcher,

because they are so similar they praised each other.

-- Bliar even got the backing of Rupert Murdoch, so is far from a Socialist

But he is long gone.

Jeremy Corbyn and Kier Starmer have consistently voted AGAINST military intervention abroad.

Unlike Boris Johnson who has consistently voted FOR military intervention abroad

So why are you accusing the socialists of warmongering?

 

Blair is very much part of the Labour Party ;-) ............

 

Why do you think Snakey wants you to embrace Blair? >:-) ..........

 

Corbyn is the one out in the cold.........Have they allowed him back in yet? (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

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pelmetman - 2021-08-09 8:37 AM

..................................So you are blaming Boris for believing LABOURS LIES? ;-) .......... Rest assured neither I or Boris or anyone with half a brain will make THAT mistake again (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Of course he is to blame for believing lies. Who else could possibly be to blame? To have believed any of Bush's Iraq tripe is totally beyond excusing.

 

He only voted in favour because Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was leading the charge.

 

If the Conservative opposition at the time had done its job properly Blair wouldn't have got his way. But no. Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was in charge, so what could possibly go wrong? Answer: Iraq and Afghanistan went wrong - and are still going wrong.

 

A few years later he (Johnson) becomes the UK's Conservative (= right wing, = ask no questions) Prime Minister.

 

Blind loyalty, they call it. I'm on the right, he's on the right, so he must be, well.......................right! :-D

 

What utter foolishness! I want a PM with 20/20 vision! I don't care which party he leads, just so long as s/he has clear vision and both eyes open.

 

So, given your common blind political backgrounds, I gain no comfort whatever from your assurance. Wherever a blind right wing leader goes, you will unquestioningly follow, even to hell in a handcart - if that is the blind leader goes!

 

The above is a perfect example of a Loony Liberal claiming 20/20 vision with the benefit of hindsight *-) ........

 

But then again they frequently talk out of that end too in my experience >:-) .............

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pelmetman - 2021-08-09 8:37 AM

..................................So you are blaming Boris for believing LABOURS LIES? ;-) .......... Rest assured neither I or Boris or anyone with half a brain will make THAT mistake again (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Of course he is to blame for believing lies. Who else could possibly be to blame? To have believed any of Bush's Iraq tripe is totally beyond excusing.

He only voted in favour because Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was leading the charge.

If the Conservative opposition at the time had done its job properly Blair wouldn't have got his way. But no. Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was in charge, so what could possibly go wrong? Answer: Iraq and Afghanistan went wrong - and are still going wrong.

A few years later he (Johnson) becomes the UK's Conservative (= right wing, = ask no questions) Prime Minister.

Blind loyalty, they call it. I'm on the right, he's on the right, so he must be, well.......................right! :-D

What utter foolishness! I want a PM with 20/20 vision! I don't care which party he leads, just so long as s/he has clear vision and both eyes open.

So, given your common blind political backgrounds, I gain no comfort whatever from your assurance. Wherever a blind right wing leader goes, you will unquestioningly follow, even to hell in a handcart - if that is the blind leader goes!

1 The above is a perfect example of a Loony Liberal claiming 20/20 vision with the benefit of hindsight *-) ........

2 But then again they frequently talk out of that end too in my experience >:-) .............

So now you're claiming clairvoyance? Out of the two of us, who is better placed to know what I thought about the invasion of Iraq? You can't attribute imagined opinions to me (or anyone else!), and then argue a against them on the basis that what you imagine is what I thought. To do so would be pure madness. Still, as it's you! (lol) (lol)

 

I was against the invasion of Iraq in 2003 because it was obvious to me that the Iraqis would come to see these "liberating" armies as occupying forces, and would begin resisting their presence, plus I was also highly suspicious of the WMD claims being made by Bush & Co, on the basis that Saddam had only Scud missiles with a maximum range of 180 miles - so hardly a threat to the USA.

 

It was said that British bases in Cyprus might be at risk, but the missile was so inaccurate at maximum range that it would have been hard pressed to hit even Cyprus, let alone the UK base at Akrotiri.

 

Military intelligence both sides of the Atlantic would have known that, so why use it as a way to frighten people into supporting the invasion? Go on, just ask yourself why, and see if you can reach any conclusion than it was because there was no properly justifiable reason for the attack. It later became clear that not only was the above true, but that no-one had given a thought to what to do with Cyprus after the inevitable military victory, and even less to how to get out again! :-D If you couldn't see all that, I can only assume you must have (blindly) sucked it all up! (lol)

 

2 Oh, spare me the details please: I'm happy to bow to your superior knowledge of that end, and what you manage to produce from it!

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pelmetman - 2021-08-09 8:37 AM

..................................So you are blaming Boris for believing LABOURS LIES? ;-) .......... Rest assured neither I or Boris or anyone with half a brain will make THAT mistake again (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Of course he is to blame for believing lies. Who else could possibly be to blame? To have believed any of Bush's Iraq tripe is totally beyond excusing.

 

He only voted in favour because Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was leading the charge.

 

If the Conservative opposition at the time had done its job properly Blair wouldn't have got his way. But no. Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was in charge, so what could possibly go wrong? Answer: Iraq and Afghanistan went wrong - and are still going wrong.

 

A few years later he (Johnson) becomes the UK's Conservative (= right wing, = ask no questions) Prime Minister.

 

Blind loyalty, they call it. I'm on the right, he's on the right, so he must be, well.......................right! :-D

 

What utter foolishness! I want a PM with 20/20 vision! I don't care which party he leads, just so long as s/he has clear vision and both eyes open.

 

So, given your common blind political backgrounds, I gain no comfort whatever from your assurance. Wherever a blind right wing leader goes, you will unquestioningly follow, even to hell in a handcart - if that is the blind leader goes!

Republican Bush always gets ignored by the right wing whenever Blair/Iraq/WMD gets wheeled out. It's an uncomfortable inconvenience they would sooner sweep under the carpet in their pursuance of pillorying Blair as the 'warmonger' when it was clear Britain was meekly wagging it's subservient tail as it's US master barked demanding immediate action.

 

What sealed it for me was hearing weapons inspector Dr Kelly give evidence about the so called "wmd's".

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pelmetman - 2021-08-09 8:37 AM

..................................So you are blaming Boris for believing LABOURS LIES? ;-) .......... Rest assured neither I or Boris or anyone with half a brain will make THAT mistake again (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Of course he is to blame for believing lies. Who else could possibly be to blame? To have believed any of Bush's Iraq tripe is totally beyond excusing.

 

He only voted in favour because Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was leading the charge.

 

If the Conservative opposition at the time had done its job properly Blair wouldn't have got his way. But no. Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was in charge, so what could possibly go wrong? Answer: Iraq and Afghanistan went wrong - and are still going wrong.

 

A few years later he (Johnson) becomes the UK's Conservative (= right wing, = ask no questions) Prime Minister.

 

Blind loyalty, they call it. I'm on the right, he's on the right, so he must be, well.......................right! :-D

 

What utter foolishness! I want a PM with 20/20 vision! I don't care which party he leads, just so long as s/he has clear vision and both eyes open.

 

So, given your common blind political backgrounds, I gain no comfort whatever from your assurance. Wherever a blind right wing leader goes, you will unquestioningly follow, even to hell in a handcart - if that is the blind leader goes!

 

The above is a perfect example of a Loony Liberal claiming 20/20 vision with the benefit of hindsight *-) ........

 

But then again they frequently talk out of that end too in my experience >:-) .............

 

Half a million people were demonstrating in London against the illegal invasion of Iraq -

BEFORE it happened

THAT IS NOT HINDSIGHT!!!

And thats just the ones who joined the demonstration

Since millions of people could see it would be a catastrophe

Including Jeremy Corbyn who argued relentlessly against it

BEFORE IT HAPPENED SO IT IS NOT HINDSIGHT

why couldn't Boris Johnson?

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pelmetman - 2021-08-09 8:37 AM

..................................So you are blaming Boris for believing LABOURS LIES? ;-) .......... Rest assured neither I or Boris or anyone with half a brain will make THAT mistake again (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Of course he is to blame for believing lies. Who else could possibly be to blame? To have believed any of Bush's Iraq tripe is totally beyond excusing.

He only voted in favour because Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was leading the charge.

If the Conservative opposition at the time had done its job properly Blair wouldn't have got his way. But no. Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was in charge, so what could possibly go wrong? Answer: Iraq and Afghanistan went wrong - and are still going wrong.

A few years later he (Johnson) becomes the UK's Conservative (= right wing, = ask no questions) Prime Minister.

Blind loyalty, they call it. I'm on the right, he's on the right, so he must be, well.......................right! :-D

What utter foolishness! I want a PM with 20/20 vision! I don't care which party he leads, just so long as s/he has clear vision and both eyes open.

So, given your common blind political backgrounds, I gain no comfort whatever from your assurance. Wherever a blind right wing leader goes, you will unquestioningly follow, even to hell in a handcart - if that is the blind leader goes!

1 The above is a perfect example of a Loony Liberal claiming 20/20 vision with the benefit of hindsight *-) ........

2 But then again they frequently talk out of that end too in my experience >:-) .............

So now you're claiming clairvoyance? Out of the two of us, who is better placed to know what I thought about the invasion of Iraq? You can't attribute imagined opinions to me (or anyone else!), and then argue a against them on the basis that what you imagine is what I thought. To do so would be pure madness. Still, as it's you! (lol) (lol)

 

I was against the invasion of Iraq in 2003 because it was obvious to me that the Iraqis would come to see these "liberating" armies as occupying forces, and would begin resisting their presence, plus I was also highly suspicious of the WMD claims being made by Bush & Co, on the basis that Saddam had only Scud missiles with a maximum range of 180 miles - so hardly a threat to the USA.

 

It was said that British bases in Cyprus might be at risk, but the missile was so inaccurate at maximum range that it would have been hard pressed to hit even Cyprus, let alone the UK base at Akrotiri.

 

Military intelligence both sides of the Atlantic would have known that, so why use it as a way to frighten people into supporting the invasion? Go on, just ask yourself why, and see if you can reach any conclusion than it was because there was no properly justifiable reason for the attack. It later became clear that not only was the above true, but that no-one had given a thought to what to do with Cyprus after the inevitable military victory, and even less to how to get out again! :-D If you couldn't see all that, I can only assume you must have (blindly) sucked it all up! (lol)

 

2 Oh, spare me the details please: I'm happy to bow to your superior knowledge of that end, and what you manage to produce from it!

 

So were you against Gulf war 1? ;-) .................

 

Seeing as limpy Liberals are usually against all wars :D ...........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2021-08-09 8:37 AM

..................................So you are blaming Boris for believing LABOURS LIES? ;-) .......... Rest assured neither I or Boris or anyone with half a brain will make THAT mistake again (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Of course he is to blame for believing lies. Who else could possibly be to blame? To have believed any of Bush's Iraq tripe is totally beyond excusing.

 

He only voted in favour because Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was leading the charge.

 

If the Conservative opposition at the time had done its job properly Blair wouldn't have got his way. But no. Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was in charge, so what could possibly go wrong? Answer: Iraq and Afghanistan went wrong - and are still going wrong.

 

A few years later he (Johnson) becomes the UK's Conservative (= right wing, = ask no questions) Prime Minister.

 

Blind loyalty, they call it. I'm on the right, he's on the right, so he must be, well.......................right! :-D

 

What utter foolishness! I want a PM with 20/20 vision! I don't care which party he leads, just so long as s/he has clear vision and both eyes open.

 

So, given your common blind political backgrounds, I gain no comfort whatever from your assurance. Wherever a blind right wing leader goes, you will unquestioningly follow, even to hell in a handcart - if that is the blind leader goes!

 

The above is a perfect example of a Loony Liberal claiming 20/20 vision with the benefit of hindsight *-) ........

 

But then again they frequently talk out of that end too in my experience >:-) .............

 

Half a million people were demonstrating in London against the illegal invasion of Iraq -

BEFORE it happened

THAT IS NOT HINDSIGHT!!!

And thats just the ones who joined the demonstration

Since millions of people could see it would be a catastrophe

Including Jeremy Corbyn who argued relentlessly against it

BEFORE IT HAPPENED SO IT IS NOT HINDSIGHT

why couldn't Boris Johnson?

 

Perhaps those Labour members who marched should also apologise for making Blair THEIR LEADER >:-) ..........

 

Coz its THEIR fault he became Leader of the Labour party *-) .............

 

 

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Bulletguy - 2021-08-10 3:22 PM................................Republican Bush always gets ignored by the right wing whenever Blair/Iraq/WMD gets wheeled out. It's an uncomfortable inconvenience they would sooner sweep under the carpet in their pursuance of pillorying Blair as the 'warmonger' when it was clear Britain was meekly wagging it's subservient tail as it's US master barked demanding immediate action....................

Oh, I think Tiny Blur was a very willing participant. He even claimed he and shrub prayed together, so spiritual bonds and all that! :-D

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pelmetman - 2021-08-10 5:53 PM...................................

So were you against Gulf war 1? ;-) .................

On balance, yes. Saddam invaded Kuwait on a pretext. Kuwait was counted an ally, and requested assistance. It is reasonable (and legal) to go to the aid of an ally in order to repel an aggressor. We did, and we did (as part of a large international coalition). Not quite the same second time round, was it?

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So were you against Gulf war 1? ;-) .................

On balance, yes. Saddam invaded Kuwait on a pretext. Kuwait was counted an ally, and requested assistance. It is reasonable (and legal) to go to the aid of an ally in order to repel an aggressor. We did, and we did (as part of a large international coalition). Not quite the same second time round, was it?

 

Thought so ;-) .................Limpy Liberals are just old fashioned surrender Monkeys :D ...........

 

(lol) (lol) (lol) ...........

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pelmetman - 2021-08-09 8:37 AM

..................................So you are blaming Boris for believing LABOURS LIES? ;-) .......... Rest assured neither I or Boris or anyone with half a brain will make THAT mistake again (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Of course he is to blame for believing lies. Who else could possibly be to blame? To have believed any of Bush's Iraq tripe is totally beyond excusing.

 

He only voted in favour because Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was leading the charge.

 

If the Conservative opposition at the time had done its job properly Blair wouldn't have got his way. But no. Bush (= US Republican President = right wing = ask no questions) was in charge, so what could possibly go wrong? Answer: Iraq and Afghanistan went wrong - and are still going wrong.

 

A few years later he (Johnson) becomes the UK's Conservative (= right wing, = ask no questions) Prime Minister.

 

Blind loyalty, they call it. I'm on the right, he's on the right, so he must be, well.......................right! :-D

 

What utter foolishness! I want a PM with 20/20 vision! I don't care which party he leads, just so long as s/he has clear vision and both eyes open.

 

So, given your common blind political backgrounds, I gain no comfort whatever from your assurance. Wherever a blind right wing leader goes, you will unquestioningly follow, even to hell in a handcart - if that is the blind leader goes!

 

The above is a perfect example of a Loony Liberal claiming 20/20 vision with the benefit of hindsight *-) ........

 

But then again they frequently talk out of that end too in my experience >:-) .............

 

Half a million people were demonstrating in London against the illegal invasion of Iraq -

BEFORE it happened

THAT IS NOT HINDSIGHT!!!

And thats just the ones who joined the demonstration

Well said John........and where was Pelmet when the first barrage of cruise missiles went in? Getting himself off in front of the tv. :-|

 

 

Since millions of people could see it would be a catastrophe

Including Jeremy Corbyn who argued relentlessly against it

BEFORE IT HAPPENED SO IT IS NOT HINDSIGHT

why couldn't Boris Johnson?

You'll only ever get obfuscation and massive deflection away from his love flame over that. :-|

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