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Posted: 23 July 2020 5:32 PM
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Barryd999 - 2020-07-23 8:45 AM

Oh Daddy!!! What were you thinking!!



https://www.indy100.com/article/stanley-johnson-russian-interference-brexit-referendum-9633211

He's right and no doubt thinking why has my son turned out to be such a pathological liar.
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Posted: 23 July 2020 5:58 PM
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Posted: 23 July 2020 7:20 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-23 1:59 PM
Lordy ... Rich Russian business types donate money to rich business type friendly Tory Party rather than donating to rich business type tax em to death unfriendly Labour Party and its a Russian spy saga ??? ... Wet behind the ears anti-Tory goggle vision Barry I get being daft but Brian, c'mon Brian your better than that

Why do better? You asked what it proved. I told you what it proved. The obvious question, that you didn't ask, is for what services were those MPs paid? Do you know?
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Posted: 23 July 2020 7:46 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-23 1:59 PM
Lordy ... Rich Russian business types donate money to rich business type friendly Tory Party rather than donating to rich business type tax em to death unfriendly Labour Party and its a Russian spy saga ??? ... Wet behind the ears anti-Tory goggle vision Barry I get being daft but Brian, c'mon Brian your better than that

Why do better? You asked what it proved. I told you what it proved. The obvious question, that you didn't ask, is for what services were those MPs paid? Do you know?


Ive just told you Brian ... The Tory Party is rich bizzness type friendly thats why they donated ... You on the other hand offer no explanation other than for "services rendered" ... Maybe you can expand a little in more detail into what you mean ???
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Posted: 23 July 2020 7:47 PM
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Barryd999 - 2020-07-23 5:58 PM



When ones struggling one can always throw in a couple funnies
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Posted: 24 July 2020 9:14 AM
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Barryd999 - 2020-07-23 5:58 PM



When ones struggling one can always throw in a couple funnies


The only one struggling in this thread is you who cannot bring himself to believe that his beloved Tory party is deep in bed with the Russkies and as corrupt as hell. sounds like summat Jeremy Corbyn would do I bet, must be hard to find out its actually the Tory Party and Brexit Putin was helping along all the time. We all knew that for years though of course.
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Posted: 24 July 2020 9:22 AM
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Barryd999 - 2020-07-24 9:14 AM

Birdbrain - 2020-07-23 7:47 PM

Barryd999 - 2020-07-23 5:58 PM



When ones struggling one can always throw in a couple funnies


The only one struggling in this thread is you who cannot bring himself to believe that his beloved Tory party is deep in bed with the Russkies and as corrupt as hell. sounds like summat Jeremy Corbyn would do I bet, must be hard to find out its actually the Tory Party and Brexit Putin was helping along all the time. We all knew that for years though of course.


If I was Putin I'd demand my money back ...........

Seeing as his useful idiot Corbyn got such a thrashing in the election ..........

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Posted: 24 July 2020 9:34 AM
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pelmetman - 2020-07-24 9:22 AM

Barryd999 - 2020-07-24 9:14 AM

Birdbrain - 2020-07-23 7:47 PM

Barryd999 - 2020-07-23 5:58 PM



When ones struggling one can always throw in a couple funnies


The only one struggling in this thread is you who cannot bring himself to believe that his beloved Tory party is deep in bed with the Russkies and as corrupt as hell. sounds like summat Jeremy Corbyn would do I bet, must be hard to find out its actually the Tory Party and Brexit Putin was helping along all the time. We all knew that for years though of course.


If I was Putin I'd demand my money back ...........

Seeing as his useful idiot Corbyn got such a thrashing in the election ..........



Is this a joke or do you really still not get it?

Putins useful idiot is Johnson!! (and a sh1t load of Tory MP's and Tory Lords).

I know its hard to accept that its the Tory party that is in bed with the Russians but there is no denying it now.

Putin has set out to destabilise the west and he is doing a good job of that, especially here. He wants to weaken Europe and Britain. Hence his support for the Tories and Brexit, same with Trump and various far right groups in Europe. Its as far removed from the likes of Corbyn than you could ever imagine.

This is a great read and sums it all up perfectly.

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/07/21/the-russia-report-what-has-boris-johnson-got-to-hide-by-refusing-to-investigate-russian-interference-in-brexit/

userBrian Kirby
Posted: 24 July 2020 12:39 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-23 7:46 PM
Brian Kirby - 2020-07-23 7:20 PM
Birdbrain - 2020-07-23 1:59 PM
Lordy ... Rich Russian business types donate money to rich business type friendly Tory Party rather than donating to rich business type tax em to death unfriendly Labour Party and its a Russian spy saga ??? ... Wet behind the ears anti-Tory goggle vision Barry I get being daft but Brian, c'mon Brian your better than that

Why do better? You asked what it proved. I told you what it proved. The obvious question, that you didn't ask, is for what services were those MPs paid? Do you know?

Ive just told you Brian ... The Tory Party is rich bizzness type friendly thats why they donated ... You on the other hand offer no explanation other than for "services rendered" ... Maybe you can expand a little in more detail into what you mean ???

So, you have no more idea than I have, but you choose to believe it must all be above board because the bankrollers are, er, "bizzness tyes"? OK, it must be true if your mate Vlad says so! However, do forgive me, but given your relationship to truth I'll just keep a sceptically open mind until I see reliably verified proof one way or the other.
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Posted: 24 July 2020 5:02 PM
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Barryd999 - 2020-07-24 9:34 AM

pelmetman - 2020-07-24 9:22 AM

Barryd999 - 2020-07-24 9:14 AM

Birdbrain - 2020-07-23 7:47 PM

Barryd999 - 2020-07-23 5:58 PM



When ones struggling one can always throw in a couple funnies


The only one struggling in this thread is you who cannot bring himself to believe that his beloved Tory party is deep in bed with the Russkies and as corrupt as hell. sounds like summat Jeremy Corbyn would do I bet, must be hard to find out its actually the Tory Party and Brexit Putin was helping along all the time. We all knew that for years though of course.


If I was Putin I'd demand my money back ...........

Seeing as his useful idiot Corbyn got such a thrashing in the election ..........



Is this a joke or do you really still not get it?

I'm not sure he does....he's never been the brightest bulb in the box after all.


Putins useful idiot is Johnson!! (and a sh1t load of Tory MP's and Tory Lords).

I know its hard to accept that its the Tory party that is in bed with the Russians but there is no denying it now.

Putin has set out to destabilise the west and he is doing a good job of that, especially here. He wants to weaken Europe and Britain. Hence his support for the Tories and Brexit, same with Trump and various far right groups in Europe. Its as far removed from the likes of Corbyn than you could ever imagine.

This is a great read and sums it all up perfectly.

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/07/21/the-russia-report-what-has-boris-johnson-got-to-hide-by-refusing-to-investigate-russian-interference-in-brexit/

He won't get beyond the first line of that and there is only one picture.
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Posted: 24 July 2020 8:28 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2020-07-24 12:39 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-07-23 7:46 PM
Brian Kirby - 2020-07-23 7:20 PM
Birdbrain - 2020-07-23 1:59 PM
Lordy ... Rich Russian business types donate money to rich business type friendly Tory Party rather than donating to rich business type tax em to death unfriendly Labour Party and its a Russian spy saga ??? ... Wet behind the ears anti-Tory goggle vision Barry I get being daft but Brian, c'mon Brian your better than that

Why do better? You asked what it proved. I told you what it proved. The obvious question, that you didn't ask, is for what services were those MPs paid? Do you know?

Ive just told you Brian ... The Tory Party is rich bizzness type friendly thats why they donated ... You on the other hand offer no explanation other than for "services rendered" ... Maybe you can expand a little in more detail into what you mean ???

So, you have no more idea than I have, but you choose to believe it must all be above board because the bankrollers are, er, "bizzness tyes"? OK, it must be true if your mate Vlad says so! However, do forgive me, but given your relationship to truth I'll just keep a sceptically open mind until I see reliably verified proof one way or the other.


You'll keep an "open mind" yet post earlier "That certain Tory MPs were taking money, for services rendered, from Russians?" ... Your "open mind" sure is open Brian ... Chuckle ... Hate on Chunky
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Posted: 25 July 2020 12:46 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-24 8:28 PM...……………………..You'll keep an "open mind" yet post earlier "That certain Tory MPs were taking money, for services rendered, from Russians?" ... Your "open mind" sure is open Brian ... Chuckle ... Hate on Chunky

It is a matter of record that hose listed took money from various Russians. I assume this must have been for "services rendered" - otherwise what on earth might the Russians have been paying for? You're surely not suggestion clandestine activities, are you? That goes way beyond any assumption I would wish to make. Are you sure you've not got this all out of proportion? When in a hole...………………….?
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Posted: 25 July 2020 5:07 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2020-07-25 12:46 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-07-24 8:28 PM...……………………..You'll keep an "open mind" yet post earlier "That certain Tory MPs were taking money, for services rendered, from Russians?" ... Your "open mind" sure is open Brian ... Chuckle ... Hate on Chunky

It is a matter of record that hose listed took money from various Russians. I assume this must have been for "services rendered" - otherwise what on earth might the Russians have been paying for? You're surely not suggestion clandestine activities, are you? That goes way beyond any assumption I would wish to make. Are you sure you've not got this all out of proportion? When in a hole...………………….?


You and your "open mind" "assume" much ... Ive already told your "open mind" why I believe rich Russians donated to the UK party that doesnt punish the rich but your "open mind" doesnt care for my thoughts obviously ... Keep on digging that hole sweet cheeks
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Posted: 25 July 2020 5:24 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-25 5:07 PM............….Ive already told your "open mind" why I believe rich Russians donated to the UK party that doesnt punish the rich but your "open mind" doesnt care for my thoughts obviously ... …………..

No you haven't. What you said was "Rich Russian business types donate money to rich business type friendly Tory Party". The particular payments were to the individuals, not to the party. Not the same thing, is it?
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Posted: 25 July 2020 5:39 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-25 5:07 PM............….Ive already told your "open mind" why I believe rich Russians donated to the UK party that doesnt punish the rich but your "open mind" doesnt care for my thoughts obviously ... …………..

No you haven't. What you said was "Rich Russian business types donate money to rich business type friendly Tory Party". The particular payments were to the individuals, not to the party. Not the same thing, is it?


Seriously??? ... Split hairs Brian ... They represent The Tory Party ... "open mind" Brian remember not closed book
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Posted: 25 July 2020 6:32 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-25 5:07 PM............….Ive already told your "open mind" why I believe rich Russians donated to the UK party that doesnt punish the rich but your "open mind" doesnt care for my thoughts obviously ... …………..

No you haven't. What you said was "Rich Russian business types donate money to rich business type friendly Tory Party". The particular payments were to the individuals, not to the party. Not the same thing, is it?

Seriously??? ... Split hairs Brian ... They represent The Tory Party ... "open mind" Brian remember not closed book

Blimey! So in your book any payment to a Tory MP is also a payment to the Tory party? Is that really what you're claiming? Have you advised Tory MPs of this? It's just that I assumed they'd regard what was paid to them personally would be their property, not the party's.
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Posted: 25 July 2020 6:37 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-25 5:07 PM............….Ive already told your "open mind" why I believe rich Russians donated to the UK party that doesnt punish the rich but your "open mind" doesnt care for my thoughts obviously ... …………..

No you haven't. What you said was "Rich Russian business types donate money to rich business type friendly Tory Party". The particular payments were to the individuals, not to the party. Not the same thing, is it?

The twins favourite 'read' reports Tory ministers claimed the money was from "British citizens". Doesn't go into detail of what percent kick-backs each took, but that will be redacted anyway in the much delayed Russia Report.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8551715/The-14-Tory-ministers-two-intelligence-committee-MPs-taken-Russian-linked-donations.html
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Posted: 25 July 2020 6:41 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-25 5:07 PM............….Ive already told your "open mind" why I believe rich Russians donated to the UK party that doesnt punish the rich but your "open mind" doesnt care for my thoughts obviously ... …………..

No you haven't. What you said was "Rich Russian business types donate money to rich business type friendly Tory Party". The particular payments were to the individuals, not to the party. Not the same thing, is it?

Seriously??? ... Split hairs Brian ... They represent The Tory Party ... "open mind" Brian remember not closed book

Blimey! So in your book any payment to a Tory MP is also a payment to the Tory party? Is that really what you're claiming? Have you advised Tory MPs of this? It's just that I assumed they'd regard what was paid to them personally would be their property, not the party's.


Errrr ... Yes ... Now if you are on about backhand payments to MPs then that would be a different story wouldnt it Mr Open Mind
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Posted: 25 July 2020 6:42 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2020-07-25 5:24 PM
Birdbrain - 2020-07-25 5:07 PM............….Ive already told your "open mind" why I believe rich Russians donated to the UK party that doesnt punish the rich but your "open mind" doesnt care for my thoughts obviously ... …………..

No you haven't. What you said was "Rich Russian business types donate money to rich business type friendly Tory Party". The particular payments were to the individuals, not to the party. Not the same thing, is it?

Seriously??? ... Split hairs Brian ... They represent The Tory Party ... "open mind" Brian remember not closed book

Blimey! So in your book any payment to a Tory MP is also a payment to the Tory party? Is that really what you're claiming? Have you advised Tory MPs of this? It's just that I assumed they'd regard what was paid to them personally would be their property, not the party's.

Remember the then Tory MP Neil Hamilton and the brown paper bags fiasco?
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Posted: 25 July 2020 7:12 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2020-07-25 6:32 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-07-25 5:39 PM
Brian Kirby - 2020-07-25 5:24 PM
Birdbrain - 2020-07-25 5:07 PM............….Ive already told your "open mind" why I believe rich Russians donated to the UK party that doesnt punish the rich but your "open mind" doesnt care for my thoughts obviously ... …………..

No you haven't. What you said was "Rich Russian business types donate money to rich business type friendly Tory Party". The particular payments were to the individuals, not to the party. Not the same thing, is it?

Seriously??? ... Split hairs Brian ... They represent The Tory Party ... "open mind" Brian remember not closed book

Blimey! So in your book any payment to a Tory MP is also a payment to the Tory party? Is that really what you're claiming? Have you advised Tory MPs of this? It's just that I assumed they'd regard what was paid to them personally would be their property, not the party's.

Errrr ... Yes ... Now if you are on about backhand payments to MPs then that would be a different story wouldnt it Mr Open Mind

Seriously? Are you quite sure you read the question?

Nothing to with backhanders, BTW. If those had been publicised the MPs in question would be under investigation (or gone) wouldn't they?

May I make a suggestion? First read, then think, then reply - in that order.
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Posted: 25 July 2020 7:19 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2020-07-25 7:12 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-07-25 6:41 PM

Brian Kirby - 2020-07-25 6:32 PM

Birdbrain - 2020-07-25 5:39 PM
Brian Kirby - 2020-07-25 5:24 PM
Birdbrain - 2020-07-25 5:07 PM............….Ive already told your "open mind" why I believe rich Russians donated to the UK party that doesnt punish the rich but your "open mind" doesnt care for my thoughts obviously ... …………..

No you haven't. What you said was "Rich Russian business types donate money to rich business type friendly Tory Party". The particular payments were to the individuals, not to the party. Not the same thing, is it?

Seriously??? ... Split hairs Brian ... They represent The Tory Party ... "open mind" Brian remember not closed book

Blimey! So in your book any payment to a Tory MP is also a payment to the Tory party? Is that really what you're claiming? Have you advised Tory MPs of this? It's just that I assumed they'd regard what was paid to them personally would be their property, not the party's.

Errrr ... Yes ... Now if you are on about backhand payments to MPs then that would be a different story wouldnt it Mr Open Mind

Seriously? Are you quite sure you read the question?

Nothing to with backhanders, BTW. If those had been publicised the MPs in question would be under investigation (or gone) wouldn't they?

May I make a suggestion? First read, then think, then reply - in that order.


Exactly they weren't backhanders they were payments made to Tory MPs ... Jeez your hard work
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Posted: 26 July 2020 7:56 AM
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The Squad seem to be going all dizzy over legit small time donations to Tory MPs yet stay quiet on the millions and millions of £££ given to their Labour Party so Commie union bosses can influence Labour policies??? ... Didn't Labour get fined not that long since for dodgy book keeping when it came to donors n'all??? ... Hypocrites
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Posted: 26 July 2020 10:11 AM
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Birdbrain - 2020-07-26 7:56 AM

The Squad seem to be going all dizzy over legit small time donations to Tory MPs yet stay quiet on the millions and millions of £££ given to their Labour Party so Commie union bosses can influence Labour policies??? ... Didn't Labour get fined not that long since for dodgy book keeping when it came to donors n'all??? ... Hypocrites


I suspect they're jealous ..........

Because their useful idiot Corbyn only charged a cup of tea .........

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