Birdbrain Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Great news ... Like the very beautiful Priti Patel says it works ... Of course the permanently offended will be put out by it and David Lammy will be screaming about his constituents being targeted but tough ... Well done Priti common sense at last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 You are indeed a beautiful thing ... ... Thankyou for making us safer xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Would that be Priti Patel who had to resign over her act of treason? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/nov/08/priti-patel-secret-israel-meetings-politics-live Remember in the "good old days" when breaches like this would have ended a political career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-08-11 5:52 PM Would that be Priti Patel who had to resign over her act of treason? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/nov/08/priti-patel-secret-israel-meetings-politics-live Remember in the "good old days" when breaches like this would have ended a political career? "act of treason" please show a little more on that princess cos I aint getting "act of treason" from your link ... Hopefully you haven't gone all Hollywood just because of Pritis Asian background ??? ... Looks like it to me sweet cheeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-08-11 6:07 PM Fast Pat - 2019-08-11 5:52 PM Would that be Priti Patel who had to resign over her act of treason? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/nov/08/priti-patel-secret-israel-meetings-politics-live Remember in the "good old days" when breaches like this would have ended a political career? "act of treason" please show a little more on that princess cos I aint getting "act of treason" from your link ... Hopefully you haven't gone all Hollywood just because of Pritis Asian background ??? ... Looks like it to me sweet cheeks Colluding secretly with a foreign state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-08-11 6:15 PM Birdbrain - 2019-08-11 6:07 PM Fast Pat - 2019-08-11 5:52 PM Would that be Priti Patel who had to resign over her act of treason? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/nov/08/priti-patel-secret-israel-meetings-politics-live Remember in the "good old days" when breaches like this would have ended a political career? "act of treason" please show a little more on that princess cos I aint getting "act of treason" from your link ... Hopefully you haven't gone all Hollywood just because of Pritis Asian background ??? ... Looks like it to me sweet cheeks Colluding secretly with a foreign state. So she's been charged , had a trial , convicted and served her prison time for "treason" ... I missed all that happening so any chance of a link princess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-08-11 7:07 PM Fast Pat - 2019-08-11 5:52 PM Would that be Priti Patel who had to resign over her act of treason? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/nov/08/priti-patel-secret-israel-meetings-politics-live Remember in the "good old days" when breaches like this would have ended a political career? "act of treason" please show a little more on that princess cos I aint getting "act of treason" from your link ... Hopefully you haven't gone all Hollywood just because of Pritis Asian background ??? ... Looks like it to me sweet cheeks Fat Lass is just upset because when Priti was in Israel she didn't nip over to see Jeremy's friends in Hamas and Hezbollah. She did try to talk to them but they were busy that day throwing homosexuals of a high building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-08-11 6:25 PM Fast Pat - 2019-08-11 6:15 PM Birdbrain - 2019-08-11 6:07 PM Fast Pat - 2019-08-11 5:52 PM Would that be Priti Patel who had to resign over her act of treason? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/nov/08/priti-patel-secret-israel-meetings-politics-live Remember in the "good old days" when breaches like this would have ended a political career? "act of treason" please show a little more on that princess cos I aint getting "act of treason" from your link ... Hopefully you haven't gone all Hollywood just because of Pritis Asian background ??? ... Looks like it to me sweet cheeks Colluding secretly with a foreign state. So she's been charged , had a trial , convicted and served her prison time for "treason" ... I missed all that happening so any chance of a link princess Presume you haven't got a link to what you claim FartPit ??? ... No proof kinda says your lying but lets give you another chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 She admitted to it and resigned so as not to be sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-08-11 7:06 AM Great news ... Like the very beautiful Priti Patel says it works ... Of course the permanently offended will be put out by it and David Lammy will be screaming about his constituents being targeted but tough ... Well done Priti common sense at last If she had any common sense she would have mentioned meeting with several Israeli government officials whilst “ on holiday” in Israel instead of trying to keep it secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-08-12 6:52 PM She admitted to it and resigned so as not to be sacked. She admitted to "it" ... That "it" I presume is FlatPosts "Act of treason" claim ??? ... Can you link us some evidence of that Jumpy please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 It is meeting Israeli government officials whilst so called on holiday...denying it... then admitting it...then resigning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-08-12 7:41 PM It is meeting Israeli government officials whilst so called on holiday...denying it... then admitting it...then resigning. Like FastPlat youve not linked anything to prove what you say ... Anything to show the "act of treason" carry on will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Birdbrain - 2019-08-12 8:09 PM jumpstart - 2019-08-12 7:41 PM It is meeting Israeli government officials whilst so called on holiday...denying it... then admitting it...then resigning. Like FastPlat youve not linked anything to prove what you say ... Anything to show the "act of treason" carry on will do So what do you call a government minister having secret meetings with a foreign state, that secret that neither her civil servants OR other ministers including the PM knew about it, such a serious transgression that she had to resign - go on tell me what thats called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-08-12 9:47 PM Birdbrain - 2019-08-12 8:09 PM jumpstart - 2019-08-12 7:41 PM It is meeting Israeli government officials whilst so called on holiday...denying it... then admitting it...then resigning. Like FastPlat youve not linked anything to prove what you say ... Anything to show the "act of treason" carry on will do So what do you call a government minister having secret meetings with a foreign state, that secret that neither her civil servants OR other ministers including the PM knew about it, such a serious transgression that she had to resign - go on tell me what thats called? So what about Corbyn meeting Soviet spy's? >:-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-08-12 9:47 PM Birdbrain - 2019-08-12 8:09 PM jumpstart - 2019-08-12 7:41 PM It is meeting Israeli government officials whilst so called on holiday...denying it... then admitting it...then resigning. Like FastPlat youve not linked anything to prove what you say ... Anything to show the "act of treason" carry on will do So what do you call a government minister having secret meetings with a foreign state, that secret that neither her civil servants OR other ministers including the PM knew about it, such a serious transgression that she had to resign - go on tell me what thats called? Personally I would you say it was an unofficial meeting but youve gone all Hollywood blockbuster in your usual way and stated she had to resign because of an act of treason ... Now Ive asked you to prove that and as per normal when pressed you haven't shown a God damn thing so basically your lying yet again buddy aint ya ... Also its noted the very beautiful Priti is Asian and I fear a slight racist undertone along with your lying ... Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 You obviously don’t understand what a racist is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpstart Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I think your description of a female polititian is demeaning and sexist. The way she looks has nothing to do with her job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 jumpstart - 2019-08-13 7:46 AM I think your description of a female polititian is demeaning and sexist. The way she looks has nothing to do with her job. Agreed. But I think s**teforbrain should have gone to Specsavers - he thinks Trump is beautiful too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 "There is growing and justified contempt for Westminster ... Cameron, Miliband, and Clegg see only the flickering shadows of the news on their cave wall – they cannot see the real world behind them,” wrote Dominic Cummings in an opinion piece in The Times newspaper in 2014. He goes on to spell out, not for the first time or the last, how the civil service is programmed to fail and how politicians chase headlines over evidence-based policy. “We should stop selecting leaders from a subset of Oxbridge egomaniacs with a humanities degree,” he adds with a rhetorical flourish that now serves as a kind of ballistic irony missile loaded with a fully self-owning warhead. It has taken Cummings less than a fortnight to become the punchline of his own joke. He and 10 Downing Street are gearing up for an election, and so, what do you know, this Big Thinker, this Good Will Hunting, scribbling on the Harvard library windows, has now decided, wallop! Ten thousand new prison places. Lock criminals up for longer. Tough on crime. Bring back stop and search. Make criminals scared again. All evidence goes out the window. The grandest ever Oxbridge egomaniac of them all (with not even a very good humanities degree, as it happens) is seeing only the flickering shadows on the news on the wall. It is not even day 14 and already we have beaten a hyper-accelerated march to the world of crap policy for political gain. Cummings has wanted to smash up politics and the civil service for more than a decade now, and rebuild it in his own image, because he is in so little doubt about how much cleverer he is than anybody else. Cummings the genius, so very very clever, yet cannot see he’s 100 per cent exactly the same as everyone else to ever go before him. In fact, not the same, whole orders of magnitude worse. Good politics, good politicians are in the game to institute reforms to improve people’s lives. Almost as an aside, there is almost nobody in Cummings’s Brexit army – your Farages, your Bankses, your Jacob Rees-Moggs – the ones he so despises but is so utterly dependent on, who is in it to improve the lot of absolutely anyone but themselves. But even good politics, good politicians, of which Cummings may yet be one, certainly he thinks he is, nevertheless involves winning power, and keeping power. Before you can exercise it. And, sometimes, just occasionally, in, say every political system there’s ever been, at every single point in human history, the need to win and keep power, and the things you must do and say, to do these things, come to overtake and ultimately prevent you from doing what you came for in the first place. It is why, for example, US presidents now seem to devote three of the four years of their term to campaigning, not governing. This is the fatal flaw of politics and all its practitioners. What was unexpected is that Cummings would prove to be the most tragic of the lot. Elsewhere, in that same Times article, we read: “We must train aspirant leaders very differently so they have the skills and experience of managing complex projects.” And here he is, bringing in policies that would make Norman Tebbit look enlightened, working for a leader whose skill at “managing complex projects” so far extends to some rolling windowless sauna buses, a cable car to nowhere, and a ghost garden bridge that may or may not take you to a demented airport that has never and will never be built. When Prime Minister Johnson announced his mad 10,000-new-prison-places scheme in the Mail on Sunday, he took pre-emptive aim at the “left-wing criminologists” who have already wasted no time in telling him some of the 10,000 reasons it’s a stupid idea. Prisons are overcrowded because too many people are, for example, on pointless six-month sentences that do neither them nor the country, nor their victims any good. The last justice secretary, David Gauke and his prisons minister Rory Stewart, have said as much on countless occasions. But they’ve both been drummed out of government for not believing in Brexit enough for Cummings and Johnson’s liking. All of which means we barely have time to remind ourselves that, and this will really shock you, Cummings himself is, naturally, an Oxbridge egomaniac with a humanities degree (Ancient and Modern History, Exeter College Oxford, 1994). And he is already, on his own terms, not merely programmed to fail, but has already done so. If he imagines there was a “growing contempt for Westminster” in 2014, well, he is Westminster now. Just wait and see what that contempt is like come November." Independent today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Interesting read. Who did you plagiarise this time? *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 747 - 2019-08-13 5:23 PM Interesting read. Who did you plagiarise this time? *-) You know the bit that says "Independent today" at the very bottom, following the whole section in quotation marks - guess what that suggests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-08-13 7:08 PM 747 - 2019-08-13 5:23 PM Interesting read. Who did you plagiarise this time? *-) You know the bit that says "Independent today" at the very bottom, following the whole section in quotation marks - guess what that suggests? With your record it's easy to make a mistake. Like you claiming that I said that food banks are a myth. Have you found that yet by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Pat Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 FunsterJohn - 2019-08-13 7:09 PM Fast Pat - 2019-08-13 7:08 PM 747 - 2019-08-13 5:23 PM Interesting read. Who did you plagiarise this time? *-) You know the bit that says "Independent today" at the very bottom, following the whole section in quotation marks - guess what that suggests? With your record it's easy to make a mistake. Like you claiming that I said that food banks are a myth. Have you found that yet by the way? Apologies it was Frumster John, the problem is you idiots all look the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunsterJohn Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Fast Pat - 2019-08-13 9:38 PM FunsterJohn - 2019-08-13 7:09 PM Fast Pat - 2019-08-13 7:08 PM 747 - 2019-08-13 5:23 PM Interesting read. Who did you plagiarise this time? *-) You know the bit that says "Independent today" at the very bottom, following the whole section in quotation marks - guess what that suggests? With your record it's easy to make a mistake. Like you claiming that I said that food banks are a myth. Have you found that yet by the way? Apologies it was Frumster John, the problem is you idiots all look the same. So what you're actually saying is that it wasn't me and you lied? Liar and plagiarist then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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