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userBirdbrain
Posted: 26 June 2020 7:16 PM
Subject: RE: The Israel-Palestian Problem
 


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Without armed struggle,nothing is likely to change.
https://apple.news/AGDMMu6ZIS8C6C_scbAvDOQ

How very Viking, Roman, Saxon, Norman, etc etc .......
Seems to me the Palestians need to get on with the new normal .......
We have and are having to do again ........
White priviledge is a bitch .........

I have absolutely no idea what all that means.

It means you, like a lot of folk either know nothing of Britains history ........
Or for polictical bandwagon purposes you prefer to ignore it ..........

But, you are comparing mediaeval history, when taking land by conquest was the accepted norm - to the victor the spoils - with modern, post WW2 practise as established through the United Nations and in particular the fourth Geneva convention, which hold that such acquisitions are illegal in international law.

Some of us would like to think that humanity advanced a bit post 1949, and that the idea of international law, backed by international treaties, should prevail over the whimsical rule of robber barons.


Maybe ask the most persecuted in the world if humanity has "advanced a bit" ... Doubt they'll agree ... Maybe you can quote "international law" and "international treaties" at em to make em feel better


You are absolutely right the Palestinian’s are waiting for International law to have some effect on the Israeli’s.


No need for rockets , bombs , knives and guns then on Palestinians and your part ... Brilliant
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Posted: 26 June 2020 7:19 PM
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Birdbrain - 2020-06-26 7:16 PM

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Brian Kirby - 2020-06-26 6:20 PM

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Without armed struggle,nothing is likely to change.
https://apple.news/AGDMMu6ZIS8C6C_scbAvDOQ

How very Viking, Roman, Saxon, Norman, etc etc .......
Seems to me the Palestians need to get on with the new normal .......
We have and are having to do again ........
White priviledge is a bitch .........

I have absolutely no idea what all that means.

It means you, like a lot of folk either know nothing of Britains history ........
Or for polictical bandwagon purposes you prefer to ignore it ..........

But, you are comparing mediaeval history, when taking land by conquest was the accepted norm - to the victor the spoils - with modern, post WW2 practise as established through the United Nations and in particular the fourth Geneva convention, which hold that such acquisitions are illegal in international law.

Some of us would like to think that humanity advanced a bit post 1949, and that the idea of international law, backed by international treaties, should prevail over the whimsical rule of robber barons.


Maybe ask the most persecuted in the world if humanity has "advanced a bit" ... Doubt they'll agree ... Maybe you can quote "international law" and "international treaties" at em to make em feel better


You are absolutely right the Palestinian’s are waiting for International law to have some effect on the Israeli’s.


No need for rockets , bombs , knives and guns then on Palestinians and your part ... Brilliant


What you mean ,Israeli bombs presumably , that’s why they are legitimate targets.
userpelmetman
Posted: 26 June 2020 7:31 PM
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Without armed struggle,nothing is likely to change.
https://apple.news/AGDMMu6ZIS8C6C_scbAvDOQ

How very Viking, Roman, Saxon, Norman, etc etc .......
Seems to me the Palestians need to get on with the new normal .......
We have and are having to do again ........
White priviledge is a bitch .........

I have absolutely no idea what all that means.

It means you, like a lot of folk either know nothing of Britains history ........
Or for polictical bandwagon purposes you prefer to ignore it ..........

But, you are comparing mediaeval history, when taking land by conquest was the accepted norm - to the victor the spoils - with modern, post WW2 practise as established through the United Nations and in particular the fourth Geneva convention, which hold that such acquisitions are illegal in international law.

Some of us would like to think that humanity advanced a bit post 1949, and that the idea of international law, backed by international treaties, should prevail over the whimsical rule of robber barons.


Yeah tell that to Saddam and Iraq ........

Oh you cant.....Coz like the Palestinians he and they lost......and like the Palestianians they now have a grudge against the West .......

If you think Islam gives a sh*t about Western humanity and culture you are far more delluded than I thought .....
userNicepix
Posted: 26 June 2020 7:35 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-06-26 4:26 PM
jumpstart - 2020-06-26 4:20 PM
Without armed struggle,nothing is likely to change.
https://apple.news/AGDMMu6ZIS8C6C_scbAvDOQ

How very Viking, Roman, Saxon, Norman, etc etc .......
Seems to me the Palestians need to get on with the new normal .......
We have and are having to do again ........
White priviledge is a bitch .........

I have absolutely no idea what all that means.

It means you, like a lot of folk either know nothing of Britains history ........
Or for polictical bandwagon purposes you prefer to ignore it ..........

But, you are comparing mediaeval history, when taking land by conquest was the accepted norm - to the victor the spoils - with modern, post WW2 practise as established through the United Nations and in particular the fourth Geneva convention, which hold that such acquisitions are illegal in international law.

Some of us would like to think that humanity advanced a bit post 1949, and that the idea of international law, backed by international treaties, should prevail over the whimsical rule of robber barons.


Yeah tell that to Saddam and Iraq ........

Oh you cant.....Coz like the Palestinians he and they lost......and like the Palestianians they now have a grudge against the West .......

If you think Islam gives a sh*t about Western humanity and culture you are far more delluded than I thought .....


Just to reverse your last point; what do you think of Islam?
userpelmetman
Posted: 26 June 2020 7:39 PM
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jumpstart - 2020-06-26 4:20 PM
Without armed struggle,nothing is likely to change.
https://apple.news/AGDMMu6ZIS8C6C_scbAvDOQ

How very Viking, Roman, Saxon, Norman, etc etc .......
Seems to me the Palestians need to get on with the new normal .......
We have and are having to do again ........
White priviledge is a bitch .........

I have absolutely no idea what all that means.

It means you, like a lot of folk either know nothing of Britains history ........
Or for polictical bandwagon purposes you prefer to ignore it ..........

But, you are comparing mediaeval history, when taking land by conquest was the accepted norm - to the victor the spoils - with modern, post WW2 practise as established through the United Nations and in particular the fourth Geneva convention, which hold that such acquisitions are illegal in international law.

Some of us would like to think that humanity advanced a bit post 1949, and that the idea of international law, backed by international treaties, should prevail over the whimsical rule of robber barons.


Yeah tell that to Saddam and Iraq ........

Oh you cant.....Coz like the Palestinians he and they lost......and like the Palestianians they now have a grudge against the West .......

If you think Islam gives a sh*t about Western humanity and culture you are far more delluded than I thought .....


Just to reverse your last point; what do you think of Islam?


As a Infidel/Nonbeliever......and having read the book ........

I have no reason to trust them .......



Edited by pelmetman 2020-06-26 7:40 PM
userNicepix
Posted: 26 June 2020 7:45 PM
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Without armed struggle,nothing is likely to change.
https://apple.news/AGDMMu6ZIS8C6C_scbAvDOQ

How very Viking, Roman, Saxon, Norman, etc etc .......
Seems to me the Palestians need to get on with the new normal .......
We have and are having to do again ........
White priviledge is a bitch .........

I have absolutely no idea what all that means.

It means you, like a lot of folk either know nothing of Britains history ........
Or for polictical bandwagon purposes you prefer to ignore it ..........

But, you are comparing mediaeval history, when taking land by conquest was the accepted norm - to the victor the spoils - with modern, post WW2 practise as established through the United Nations and in particular the fourth Geneva convention, which hold that such acquisitions are illegal in international law.

Some of us would like to think that humanity advanced a bit post 1949, and that the idea of international law, backed by international treaties, should prevail over the whimsical rule of robber barons.


Yeah tell that to Saddam and Iraq ........

Oh you cant.....Coz like the Palestinians he and they lost......and like the Palestianians they now have a grudge against the West .......

If you think Islam gives a sh*t about Western humanity and culture you are far more delluded than I thought .....


Just to reverse your last point; what do you think of Islam?


As a Infidel/Nonbeliever......and having read the book ........

I have no reason to trust them .......



So basically you hold the same contempt for Islam that you claim Islam holds for the West. Does that not explain a lot of today's problems?
userpelmetman
Posted: 26 June 2020 7:50 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-06-26 4:57 PM
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jumpstart - 2020-06-26 4:20 PM
Without armed struggle,nothing is likely to change.
https://apple.news/AGDMMu6ZIS8C6C_scbAvDOQ

How very Viking, Roman, Saxon, Norman, etc etc .......
Seems to me the Palestians need to get on with the new normal .......
We have and are having to do again ........
White priviledge is a bitch .........

I have absolutely no idea what all that means.

It means you, like a lot of folk either know nothing of Britains history ........
Or for polictical bandwagon purposes you prefer to ignore it ..........

But, you are comparing mediaeval history, when taking land by conquest was the accepted norm - to the victor the spoils - with modern, post WW2 practise as established through the United Nations and in particular the fourth Geneva convention, which hold that such acquisitions are illegal in international law.

Some of us would like to think that humanity advanced a bit post 1949, and that the idea of international law, backed by international treaties, should prevail over the whimsical rule of robber barons.


Yeah tell that to Saddam and Iraq ........

Oh you cant.....Coz like the Palestinians he and they lost......and like the Palestianians they now have a grudge against the West .......

If you think Islam gives a sh*t about Western humanity and culture you are far more delluded than I thought .....


Just to reverse your last point; what do you think of Islam?


As a Infidel/Nonbeliever......and having read the book ........

I have no reason to trust them .......



So basically you hold the same contempt for Islam that you claim Islam holds for the West. Does that not explain a lot of today's problems?


The difference is I have yet to murder anyone for my beliefs ........

How about you Frank?.........are you a God botherer? .......

userjumpstart
Posted: 26 June 2020 8:25 PM
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jumpstart - 2020-06-26 4:20 PM
Without armed struggle,nothing is likely to change.
https://apple.news/AGDMMu6ZIS8C6C_scbAvDOQ

How very Viking, Roman, Saxon, Norman, etc etc .......
Seems to me the Palestians need to get on with the new normal .......
We have and are having to do again ........
White priviledge is a bitch .........

I have absolutely no idea what all that means.

It means you, like a lot of folk either know nothing of Britains history ........
Or for polictical bandwagon purposes you prefer to ignore it ..........

But, you are comparing mediaeval history, when taking land by conquest was the accepted norm - to the victor the spoils - with modern, post WW2 practise as established through the United Nations and in particular the fourth Geneva convention, which hold that such acquisitions are illegal in international law.

Some of us would like to think that humanity advanced a bit post 1949, and that the idea of international law, backed by international treaties, should prevail over the whimsical rule of robber barons.


Yeah tell that to Saddam and Iraq ........

Oh you cant.....Coz like the Palestinians he and they lost......and like the Palestianians they now have a grudge against the West .......

If you think Islam gives a sh*t about Western humanity and culture you are far more delluded than I thought .....


Just to reverse your last point; what do you think of Islam?


As a Infidel/Nonbeliever......and having read the book ........

I have no reason to trust them .......



So basically you hold the same contempt for Islam that you claim Islam holds for the West. Does that not explain a lot of today's problems?


The difference is I have yet to murder anyone for my beliefs ........

How about you Frank?.........are you a God botherer? .......



And the same applies to 99% of all Muslims.
userjumpstart
Posted: 28 June 2020 7:26 AM
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If Annexation is declared next Wednesday, the next conflict will begin.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/28/growing-hostility-may-force-israel-to-pause-annexation-plan

The British Government will advise people to boycott goods.
userBirdbrain
Posted: 28 June 2020 7:49 AM
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Without armed struggle,nothing is likely to change.
https://apple.news/AGDMMu6ZIS8C6C_scbAvDOQ

How very Viking, Roman, Saxon, Norman, etc etc .......
Seems to me the Palestians need to get on with the new normal .......
We have and are having to do again ........
White priviledge is a bitch .........

I have absolutely no idea what all that means.

It means you, like a lot of folk either know nothing of Britains history ........
Or for polictical bandwagon purposes you prefer to ignore it ..........

But, you are comparing mediaeval history, when taking land by conquest was the accepted norm - to the victor the spoils - with modern, post WW2 practise as established through the United Nations and in particular the fourth Geneva convention, which hold that such acquisitions are illegal in international law.

Some of us would like to think that humanity advanced a bit post 1949, and that the idea of international law, backed by international treaties, should prevail over the whimsical rule of robber barons.


Yeah tell that to Saddam and Iraq ........

Oh you cant.....Coz like the Palestinians he and they lost......and like the Palestianians they now have a grudge against the West .......

If you think Islam gives a sh*t about Western humanity and culture you are far more delluded than I thought .....


Just to reverse your last point; what do you think of Islam?


As a Infidel/Nonbeliever......and having read the book ........

I have no reason to trust them .......



So basically you hold the same contempt for Islam that you claim Islam holds for the West. Does that not explain a lot of today's problems?


The difference is I have yet to murder anyone for my beliefs ........

How about you Frank?.........are you a God botherer? .......



And the same applies to 99% of all Muslims.


Many are guilty by association
userpelmetman
Posted: 28 June 2020 9:12 AM
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pelmetman - 2020-06-26 8:39 PM

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Without armed struggle,nothing is likely to change.
https://apple.news/AGDMMu6ZIS8C6C_scbAvDOQ

How very Viking, Roman, Saxon, Norman, etc etc .......
Seems to me the Palestians need to get on with the new normal .......
We have and are having to do again ........
White priviledge is a bitch .........

I have absolutely no idea what all that means.

It means you, like a lot of folk either know nothing of Britains history ........
Or for polictical bandwagon purposes you prefer to ignore it ..........

But, you are comparing mediaeval history, when taking land by conquest was the accepted norm - to the victor the spoils - with modern, post WW2 practise as established through the United Nations and in particular the fourth Geneva convention, which hold that such acquisitions are illegal in international law.

Some of us would like to think that humanity advanced a bit post 1949, and that the idea of international law, backed by international treaties, should prevail over the whimsical rule of robber barons.


Yeah tell that to Saddam and Iraq ........

Oh you cant.....Coz like the Palestinians he and they lost......and like the Palestianians they now have a grudge against the West .......

If you think Islam gives a sh*t about Western humanity and culture you are far more delluded than I thought .....


Just to reverse your last point; what do you think of Islam?


As a Infidel/Nonbeliever......and having read the book ........

I have no reason to trust them .......



So basically you hold the same contempt for Islam that you claim Islam holds for the West. Does that not explain a lot of today's problems?


The difference is I have yet to murder anyone for my beliefs ........

How about you Frank?.........are you a God botherer? .......



And the same applies to 99% of all Muslims.


Well if you want to talk percentages ...........

Just 5% of our population make up 90% of the terrorists in our prisons ...........

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Posted: 29 June 2020 7:19 PM
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Without armed struggle,nothing is likely to change.
https://apple.news/AGDMMu6ZIS8C6C_scbAvDOQ

How very Viking, Roman, Saxon, Norman, etc etc .......
Seems to me the Palestians need to get on with the new normal .......
We have and are having to do again ........
White priviledge is a bitch .........

I have absolutely no idea what all that means.

It means you, like a lot of folk either know nothing of Britains history ........
Or for polictical bandwagon purposes you prefer to ignore it ..........

But, you are comparing mediaeval history, when taking land by conquest was the accepted norm - to the victor the spoils - with modern, post WW2 practise as established through the United Nations and in particular the fourth Geneva convention, which hold that such acquisitions are illegal in international law.

Some of us would like to think that humanity advanced a bit post 1949, and that the idea of international law, backed by international treaties, should prevail over the whimsical rule of robber barons.


Yeah tell that to Saddam and Iraq ........

Oh you cant.....Coz like the Palestinians he and they lost......and like the Palestianians they now have a grudge against the West .......

If you think Islam gives a sh*t about Western humanity and culture you are far more delluded than I thought .....


Just to reverse your last point; what do you think of Islam?


As a Infidel/Nonbeliever......and having read the book ........

I have no reason to trust them .......



So basically you hold the same contempt for Islam that you claim Islam holds for the West. Does that not explain a lot of today's problems?


The difference is I have yet to murder anyone for my beliefs ........

How about you Frank?.........are you a God botherer? .......



And the same applies to 99% of all Muslims.


Many are guilty by association


And equally we are all guilty of association with Bliar's Wars and Dubbya's Wars.
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Posted: 29 June 2020 9:03 PM
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Big day for Israel on Wednesday. Annexation Day.. will they...won’t they.... looks like a U turn is coming.
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Posted: 1 July 2020 12:01 PM
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Boris tells Israel..Do not Annex any of Palestinians land....there will be consequences.
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Posted: 1 July 2020 1:19 PM
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A good starting point, if wanting to understand the complexities of the problem, might be to download a document entitled The Origins and Complexities of the Palestine Problem, published by the United Nations. Free download here: http://tinyurl.com/y7axutwk

It is lengthy, but about as factual as is achievable given the passage of time and the emotions and vested interests involved. Enjoy!
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Posted: 1 July 2020 1:27 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2020-07-01 1:19 PM

A good starting point, if wanting to understand the complexities of the problem, might be to download a document entitled The Origins and Complexities of the Palestine Problem, published by the United Nations. Free download here: http://tinyurl.com/y7axutwk

It is lengthy, but about as factual as is achievable given the passage of time and the emotions and vested interests involved. Enjoy!



Have you checked its' accuracy with Dave Pelmet before supplying that link Brian ?

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Posted: 1 July 2020 2:31 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2020-07-01 1:19 PM
A good starting point, if wanting to understand the complexities of the problem, might be to download a document entitled The Origins and Complexities of the Palestine Problem, published by the United Nations. Free download here: http://tinyurl.com/y7axutwk
It is lengthy, but about as factual as is achievable given the passage of time and the emotions and vested interests involved. Enjoy!

Have you checked its' accuracy with Dave Pelmet before supplying that link Brian ?

I know. Tricky knowing who to rely on between Dave and the UN, innit!
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Posted: 1 July 2020 2:51 PM
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I’ve finished Part 1 ,no surprises there.
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Posted: 1 July 2020 3:37 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2020-07-01 1:19 PM

A good starting point, if wanting to understand the complexities of the problem, might be to download a document entitled The Origins and Complexities of the Palestine Problem, published by the United Nations. Free download here: http://tinyurl.com/y7axutwk

It is lengthy, but about as factual as is achievable given the passage of time and the emotions and vested interests involved. Enjoy!



Have you checked its' accuracy with Dave Pelmet before supplying that link Brian ?


Soon as he sees there's lots of words and no pictures he'll dismiss it as 'Lefty, Loser, Liberal, Marxist, Commie, Remoaner, Boris bashing'.
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Posted: 2 July 2020 8:12 AM
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Brian Kirby - 2020-07-01 1:19 PM

A good starting point, if wanting to understand the complexities of the problem, might be to download a document entitled The Origins and Complexities of the Palestine Problem, published by the United Nations. Free download here: http://tinyurl.com/y7axutwk

It is lengthy, but about as factual as is achievable given the passage of time and the emotions and vested interests involved. Enjoy!



Have you checked its' accuracy with Dave Pelmet before supplying that link Brian ?


Soon as he sees there's lots of words and no pictures he'll dismiss it as 'Lefty, Loser, Liberal, Marxist, Commie, Remoaner, Boris bashing'.


Thanks for the heads up .........

I wont bother reading it ..........

Anyone who thinks the Israel/Palestian problem can be solved is just another stupid Canute........aka Loony Lefty Marxist Loser Commie Remoaner .........


Edited by pelmetman 2020-07-02 8:13 AM
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Posted: 2 July 2020 8:47 AM
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Of course it can be solved. All that’s needed is a solution.
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Posted: 2 July 2020 9:18 AM
Subject: RE: The Israel-Palestian Problem
 


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jumpstart - 2020-07-02 8:47 AM

Of course it can be solved. All that’s needed is a solution.


With two implacably opposed sides, each with access to weapons, who have fought multiple wars and continue to attack each other at will, and a UN which has no capacity to impose and sustain a solution either, I fear that is a vain hope.

Edited by StuartO 2020-07-02 9:22 AM
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Posted: 2 July 2020 10:51 AM
Subject: RE: The Israel-Palestian Problem
 
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jumpstart - 2020-07-02 8:47 AM

Of course it can be solved. All that’s needed is a solution.


With two implacably opposed sides, each with access to weapons, who have fought multiple wars and continue to attack each other at will, and a UN which has no capacity to impose and sustain a solution either, I fear that is a vain hope.



Quite right that we currently have two opposing sides dead set against each other. Both think that the solution is for the other side to either give in or go away.
That's not going to happen.
The people who suffer for it are the moderates on both sides of these kinds of disputes.

( It's a bit like the raving right and loony left in lots of other places ).

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Posted: 2 July 2020 11:23 AM
Subject: RE: The Israel-Palestian Problem
 
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We do have opposing sides, but they are not equal. One side has an Army,Navy and Airforce backed up materially and financially by the Americans. They control the boarder and coast line of Palestinians land, they control the taxi and social funding of the Palestinians, they ignore human rights of the Palestinian’s and ignore U.N. resolutions regarding stealing land. The Palestinian’s have some rudimentary rockets,and firearms. Apart from other countries giving them their verbal support,what have they got to negotiate with ?
The only thing that matters to the Israeli’s is loss of their lives from armed conflict.
So if Annexation goes ahead Israeli’s will get attacked.
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