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Posted: 6 January 2019 11:57 AM
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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 11:14 AM


. I have a news feed that comes directly to me that picks up on anything Brexit related. Its out of control.


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You make it sound as if your ' feed ' comes from the Kremlin Barry - I hope you know the actual source.


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Posted: 6 January 2019 12:00 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 11:14 AM


. I have a news feed that comes directly to me that picks up on anything Brexit related. Its out of control.


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You make it sound as if your ' feed ' comes from the Kremlin Barry - I hope you know the actual source.




Barry's another of Putin's useful idiots ..........

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Posted: 6 January 2019 12:24 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 11:14 AM

I dont need to rake all over the internet Rich. I have a news feed that comes directly to me that picks up on anything Brexit related. Its out of control. I then pick out the juicy bits and tweet, farcebook or put them up on political forums for debate. I like to post stuff on here because its fun and I like the members. Its not a poor substitute for real life to me spending hours every day trying to stop Brexit as it is real life. People say there is nothing we can do to change things or stop Brexit and maybe they are right but I think the are wrong. The worm is turning, slowly but it is turning.


Do you honestly believe that posting selected bits of negativity on an obscure forum is going any way towards stopping Brexit?

Really? Come on Barry - you cannot be serious??

But I do agree with you on one thing - winding up other people can be fun!!

Happy Brexitmas - and whilst it may be a crappy new year for some and for the UK it should be happy for many of us - secure in our own little worlds of escapism!
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Posted: 6 January 2019 1:19 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 11:14 AM

I dont need to rake all over the internet Rich. I have a news feed that comes directly to me that picks up on anything Brexit related. Its out of control. I then pick out the juicy bits and tweet, farcebook or put them up on political forums for debate. I like to post stuff on here because its fun and I like the members. Its not a poor substitute for real life to me spending hours every day trying to stop Brexit as it is real life. People say there is nothing we can do to change things or stop Brexit and maybe they are right but I think the are wrong. The worm is turning, slowly but it is turning.


Do you honestly believe that posting selected bits of negativity on an obscure forum is going any way towards stopping Brexit?

Really? Come on Barry - you cannot be serious??

But I do agree with you on one thing - winding up other people can be fun!!

Happy Brexitmas - and whilst it may be a crappy new year for some and for the UK it should be happy for many of us - secure in our own little worlds of escapism!


You clearly didn't read my post Rich. I come on here for the good company and craic! Most of my anti Brexit stuff is done on "wider" social media, Im also an active member of the Peoples Vote Campaign and one or two others. Its almost a full time job!

Ive even been known to attend the odd rally and will probably see if I can get to put Tim Martin right on his Brexit tour of his crappy pubs but it looks like the others have got their first and no doubt he will give it up as a bad job.
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Posted: 6 January 2019 1:22 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 11:14 AM


. I have a news feed that comes directly to me that picks up on anything Brexit related. Its out of control.


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You make it sound as if your ' feed ' comes from the Kremlin Barry - I hope you know the actual source.




Barry's another of Putin's useful idiots ..........



Ho Ho. No a news feed is just a tool for bringing you content from a massive wide variety of sources.


The only useful idiots for Putin are the Brexit voters and campaigners themselves. Why else do you think Putin helped rig the vote and also even now has hundreds if not thousands of pro Brexit Russian trolls on our social media?
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Posted: 6 January 2019 1:33 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 1:22 PM


. No a news feed is just a tool for bringing you content from a massive wide variety of sources.





……. and who designed, and wrote the programming for the news feed ?


I'm sure the same kind of tools are being used on both sides of the argument - people just decide to believe the one that supports their own beliefs best - or neither.

I personally have chosen to believe neither.


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Posted: 6 January 2019 2:05 PM
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malc d - 2019-01-06 1:33 PM


I personally have chosen to believe neither.




Me too!
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Posted: 6 January 2019 2:46 PM
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I personally have chosen to believe neither.




Me too!


I was a Brexiteer before the tinternet was invented ...........

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Posted: 6 January 2019 2:50 PM
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malc d - 2019-01-06 1:33 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 1:22 PM


. No a news feed is just a tool for bringing you content from a massive wide variety of sources.





……. and who designed, and wrote the programming for the news feed ?


I'm sure the same kind of tools are being used on both sides of the argument - people just decide to believe the one that supports their own beliefs best - or neither.

I personally have chosen to believe neither.




Im not sure you understand. There are various websites and internet tools you can use as well as dedicated servers that you can subscribe to or use that will bring you content based on filters that you specify. Not just Brexit. You could use them to tell you every time the words "Dave Pelmet is Barking mad" appears in an article. These tools have been around since before Brexit. You obviously need some kind of filter or to use a site that for example just provides you with news stories and articles based on your criteria so the results can be from a wide range of source from the Daily Mail to the Canary.

One that I use the filter or keyword is simply "Brexit". Now that should bring in and it does any news story that has the word Brexit in it. So no bias at all, it just means your bang up to date on the latest stories as they come out. You get to see a constantly moving board of headlines which is live. One things for sure 90% of them are generally bad news, its rare to see a positive Brexit story.
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Posted: 6 January 2019 3:00 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 2:50 PM

One things for sure 90% of them are generally bad news, its rare to see a positive Brexit story.


No sh*t Sherlock?........Our 90% Remoaner biased media only focuses on negative Brexit stories ......



Edited by pelmetman 2019-01-06 3:13 PM
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Posted: 6 January 2019 3:54 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 2:50 PM

malc d - 2019-01-06 1:33 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 1:22 PM


. No a news feed is just a tool for bringing you content from a massive wide variety of sources.





……. and who designed, and wrote the programming for the news feed ?


I'm sure the same kind of tools are being used on both sides of the argument - people just decide to believe the one that supports their own beliefs best - or neither.

I personally have chosen to believe neither.




Im not sure you understand.




Bit patronising that - ( but your antagonism towards the older generation may explain that ).


I wouldn't be surprised if David Cameron used the same kind of sources as you when he decided that he could win a referendum on the subject.



Edited by malc d 2019-01-06 3:55 PM
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Posted: 6 January 2019 4:11 PM
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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 2:50 PM

One things for sure 90% of them are generally bad news, its rare to see a positive Brexit story.


No sh*t Sherlock?........Our 90% Remoaner biased media only focuses on negative Brexit stories ......



What planet are you on? It was the pro Brexit media that massively steered and drove then entire Brexit mess and got us to where we are now with 20+ years of drip feeding you nonsense. The remainers might have won the social media war but the news media in the UK is massively pro Brexit certainly by coverage and readership numbers.
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Posted: 6 January 2019 4:15 PM
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malc d - 2019-01-06 3:54 PM

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malc d - 2019-01-06 1:33 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 1:22 PM


. No a news feed is just a tool for bringing you content from a massive wide variety of sources.





……. and who designed, and wrote the programming for the news feed ?


I'm sure the same kind of tools are being used on both sides of the argument - people just decide to believe the one that supports their own beliefs best - or neither.

I personally have chosen to believe neither.




Im not sure you understand.




Bit patronising that - ( but your antagonism towards the older generation may explain that ).


I wouldn't be surprised if David Cameron used the same kind of sources as you when he decided that he could win a referendum on the subject.



How is it patronising saying politely "Im not sure you understand" when it was clear to me you didnt. Im still not sure you get it. News feeds for example do not bring you the info you want to hear. you just have to do what Dave does for that and just get your news from the Mail and the Express and nowhere else although the The Mail has gone rogue now as far as its readers are concerned.
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Posted: 6 January 2019 4:19 PM
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malc d - 2019-01-06 1:33 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 1:22 PM


. No a news feed is just a tool for bringing you content from a massive wide variety of sources.





……. and who designed, and wrote the programming for the news feed ?


I'm sure the same kind of tools are being used on both sides of the argument - people just decide to believe the one that supports their own beliefs best - or neither.

I personally have chosen to believe neither.

On forecasts you have a valid point but reporting of actual current events, such as the Seaborne farce for one, is indisputable and i'm surprised at anyone attempting to minimise such actions. Naturally it's yet another embarrassment for pro-Brexiters and i can understand that, but this is one in a growing line of what we're now seeing almost daily.
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Posted: 6 January 2019 10:01 PM
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It just got worse......if that's possible.

https://www.channel4.com/news/uncertainty-over-brexit-ferry-port
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Posted: 6 January 2019 11:14 PM
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Bulletguy - 2019-01-06 10:01 PM


It just got worse......if that's possible.

https://www.channel4.com/news/uncertainty-over-brexit-ferry-port


As I said, its just a bluff, they have no chance of ever getting any ships. Even if they could find one, a suitable roll off roll on ferry will be north of $100m, would probably need an entire refit, if its come from outside of the EU it will need to pass a raft of safety inspections, trials etc. Then it would need to be staffed, routes agreed, timetables etc. This lot dont even have a functioning website. What chance have they got of achieving all of the above? Its the biggest Brexit joke since the £350m on the side of the bus. They could always put a few barrels on that, see if it floats.
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Posted: 7 January 2019 12:36 AM
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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 11:14 PM

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It just got worse......if that's possible.

https://www.channel4.com/news/uncertainty-over-brexit-ferry-port


As I said, its just a bluff, they have no chance of ever getting any ships. Even if they could find one, a suitable roll off roll on ferry will be north of $100m, would probably need an entire refit, if its come from outside of the EU it will need to pass a raft of safety inspections, trials etc. Then it would need to be staffed, routes agreed, timetables etc. This lot dont even have a functioning website. What chance have they got of achieving all of the above? Its the biggest Brexit joke since the £350m on the side of the bus. They could always put a few barrels on that, see if it floats.

They've found a 30 year old tub but are still "negotiating" for it. It only holds 40 trucks where the P&O and DFDS ferries take 180 trucks. As the leader of Tory led Thanet council said, "Seaborne can't pass any due diligence as there's nothing there to do due diligence on so then you have to ask; what do we have to look at to ensure we are dealing with an organisation of substance?"

Seaborne have just 66 quid to their name and led by a rogue still owing a company over a million dollars, yet Mays government offer 'em 14 million quid because Grayling likes 'start up' companies. Oh brother!

I've got a fair bit more than 66 quid in my accounts, have no previous experience of shipping apart from sailing the Channel on 'em, and own no ships.....yet government tell me i'm not entitled to any benefit because i've got "too much" money.
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Posted: 7 January 2019 9:47 AM
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Bulletguy - 2019-01-07 12:36 AM

Seaborne have just 66 quid to their name and led by a rogue still owing a company over a million dollars, yet Mays government offer 'em 14 million quid because Grayling likes 'start up' companies. Oh brother!



Correction .............

They now have 14,000,066 quid ...........

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Posted: 7 January 2019 9:55 AM
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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 4:11 PM

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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 2:50 PM

One things for sure 90% of them are generally bad news, its rare to see a positive Brexit story.


No sh*t Sherlock?........Our 90% Remoaner biased media only focuses on negative Brexit stories ......



What planet are you on? It was the pro Brexit media that massively steered and drove then entire Brexit mess and got us to where we are now with 20+ years of drip feeding you nonsense. The remainers might have won the social media war but the news media in the UK is massively pro Brexit certainly by coverage and readership numbers.


Obviously a different one to yours Barry.........If you think the mainstream media was pro Brexit ........

Sounds to me like your unable to accept the FACT that 52% of us Brits actually want to LEAVE THE EU ............

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Posted: 7 January 2019 10:28 AM
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pelmetman - 2019-01-06 3:00 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 2:50 PM

One things for sure 90% of them are generally bad news, its rare to see a positive Brexit story.


No sh*t Sherlock?........Our 90% Remoaner biased media only focuses on negative Brexit stories ......



What planet are you on? It was the pro Brexit media that massively steered and drove then entire Brexit mess and got us to where we are now with 20+ years of drip feeding you nonsense. The remainers might have won the social media war but the news media in the UK is massively pro Brexit certainly by coverage and readership numbers.


Obviously a different one to yours Barry.........If you think the mainstream media was pro Brexit ........

Sounds to me like your unable to accept the FACT that 52% of us Brits actually want to LEAVE THE EU ............



Well if thats still the case then you have nothing to fear from a final vote on Mays deal then do you?
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Posted: 7 January 2019 10:32 AM
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Barryd999 - 2019-01-07 10:28 AM

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Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 4:11 PM

pelmetman - 2019-01-06 3:00 PM

Barryd999 - 2019-01-06 2:50 PM

One things for sure 90% of them are generally bad news, its rare to see a positive Brexit story.


No sh*t Sherlock?........Our 90% Remoaner biased media only focuses on negative Brexit stories ......



What planet are you on? It was the pro Brexit media that massively steered and drove then entire Brexit mess and got us to where we are now with 20+ years of drip feeding you nonsense. The remainers might have won the social media war but the news media in the UK is massively pro Brexit certainly by coverage and readership numbers.


Obviously a different one to yours Barry.........If you think the mainstream media was pro Brexit ........

Sounds to me like your unable to accept the FACT that 52% of us Brits actually want to LEAVE THE EU ............



Well if thats still the case then you have nothing to fear from a final vote on Mays deal then do you?


I don't object to another vote ...........

After we've left .........

Although to be fair......you should have the decency to wait 40+ years like I did ..........



Edited by pelmetman 2019-01-07 10:33 AM
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Posted: 8 January 2019 11:22 PM
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So now the latest in governments "Carry On Cockup" movie is HMRC shut down the company Seabornes CEO used to run, Mercator International, for non payment of taxes with debts of over £1 million to MidGulf (still unpaid) and Palm Charters still chasing their money owed. Also he was operating illegally without a correct licence for a ship carrying guns.

Errm......why has this man not been brought to justice? People are getting locked up for far less serious criminal offences than this.

Grayling appears to be enjoying every moment as he grins his way throughout. Time he heads for Mays revolving Cabinet door which is spinning that fast now i've lost track of whose in Cabinet and whose out. It's like a competition to see who can notch up the longest stay as a Cabinet minister..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpjrz5g4TQM&t=12m18s
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Posted: 10 January 2019 11:37 PM
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Looks like we underestimated Seaborne. They have a ship!!

https://www.suffolkgazette.com/business/seaborne-freight/

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Barryd999 - 2019-01-10 11:37 PM

Looks like we underestimated Seaborne. They have a ship!!

https://www.suffolkgazette.com/business/seaborne-freight/

Ah.....finally progress. Seems very fitting for a third country banana republic too.
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Posted: 11 January 2019 6:27 AM
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I thought Barry said the young dont want to leave ... https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1083494251005165568 ... Lordy
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Posted: 11 January 2019 8:32 AM
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I see Brittany ferries are confirming what most sensible folk think ........

They already have enough ships......and more importantly the capacity to increase their time table .........

So its unlikely Seaborne will be required, but I guess its sensible to plan just in case the EU want to play silly b*ggers .............



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Posted: 12 January 2019 5:16 PM
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Staggering. Just listen to this.

https://twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1083886169216176128
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Posted: 20 January 2019 2:06 AM
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Whilst Failing Grayling waffles lies, deflection and cuckoo land nonsense THIS guy, Mr Tommelein, Mayor of Ostend deals in harsh facts with no mincing of words.

Oh and you get a look around the stunning "development" of Ramsgate "ferry terminal".

https://www.channel4.com/news/mayor-of-ostend-casts-doubts-over-uk-government-ferry-contract
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Posted: 20 January 2019 4:16 PM
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Where are all the workers busily preparing our new "no deal" port? Its gonna need a bit of a spring clean by the look of it. It seems the only people properly preparing for a No Deal situation is the EU countries not the UK. Perhaps they think no deal wont happen huh?

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Barryd999 - 2019-01-20 4:16 PM

Where are all the workers busily preparing our new "no deal" port? Its gonna need a bit of a spring clean by the look of it. It seems the only people properly preparing for a No Deal situation is the EU countries not the UK. Perhaps they think no deal wont happen huh?

Apart from the Dutch owned dredger pottering around (obviously we couldn't afford the cost of our own dredger so gave the job to an EU country!), the only "work" i could see being done was the seagulls sh1tting all over the place.
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