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userBirdbrain
Posted: 13 January 2021 1:08 PM
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"You seem to be arguing" ... You seem to be wrong ... I simply ask for proof of what is being claimed ... Hated, liked, loathed or loved even POTUS Trump deserves the right to something better than a Chatterbox kangaroo court that offers up not one single bit of written evidence of what they claim ... Yet, once again I seem to be in the wrong ... Thankfully I might add


If you were not arguing in support of Trump but merely exercising your legalistic muscles to no useful purpose other than arguing for arguing’s sake, was there any worthwhile purpose in posting?


No your making things up or just pretending to be stupid ... I have told you I am not arguing and I aren't particularly trying to defend POTUS Trump either ... I am has been clearly explained looking for where exactly in POTUS Trumps speech he incited what followed after his speech, up to press not one single person here including you has shown anything to back up your claims, cant think why
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Birdbrain - 2021-01-13 1:08 PM..................... cant think why

And that, precisely, is the problem. You've invested so much personal kudos in your false God, you don't want to see.

You really need to sit down calmly, open your eyes, and read that transcript with an open mind - after you answer for yourself these questions.
How did all those people come to be in Washington at the same time? Divine intervention, or because someone got them there?
What was the issue that got them there?
Why did some brings weapons, including guns?
What was their expectation in travelling to Washington?
Look at the news interviews of the attendees. Were they in reflective mood, or angry and excited?
What were they angry about?

Then read the speech. It is a clear case of first assemble rent-a-mob on a false premise, then wind them up, then just fade away and leave them to it, and then feign innocence.

And you can't see it because Trump didn't actually say "now go down to the Capitol and trash it".

That is the thinnest and most transparently inadequate defence conceivable. The sort of defence a child might try when confronted with some misdemeanour that only they could possibly have committed. Only in this case it came from a President of the United States. Truly, there are none so blind as those who will not see!
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Posted: 13 January 2021 2:15 PM
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Birdbrain - 2021-01-13 1:08 PM..................... cant think why

And that, precisely, is the problem. You've invested so much personal kudos in your false God, you don't want to see.

You really need to sit down calmly, open your eyes, and read that transcript with an open mind - after you answer for yourself these questions.
How did all those people come to be in Washington at the same time? Divine intervention, or because someone got them there?
What was the issue that got them there?
Why did some brings weapons, including guns?
What was their expectation in travelling to Washington?
Look at the news interviews of the attendees. Were they in reflective mood, or angry and excited?
What were they angry about?

Then read the speech. It is a clear case of first assemble rent-a-mob on a false premise, then wind them up, then just fade away and leave them to it, and then feign innocence.

And you can't see it because Trump didn't actually say "now go down to the Capitol and trash it".

That is the thinnest and most transparently inadequate defence conceivable. The sort of defence a child might try when confronted with some misdemeanour that only they could possibly have committed. Only in this case it came from a President of the United States. Truly, there are none so blind as those who will not see!


Now I have done as you say and attempted to answer the questions you list ... Obviously I am a bit ditsy and blonde and cant for the life in me answer them or see the incitement ... We know your record on here regarding you being an expert on many topics including diagnosing certain mental health issues totally blind so could you put your expertise to good use on this matter and please, please, please post up where the incitement is in the speech ??? ... No need for insults and names either just what I ask for, surely you of all people on here can provide something, anything even if its just a teensy weensy bit of silliness ... Note I have said please
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Posted: 13 January 2021 2:23 PM
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Birdbrain - 2021-01-13 6:10 AM

Still nothing ... Not a god damn thing to show where POTUS Trump incited violence ... Nothing from the sisters ... You would think they would gladly point out the hatey bits of his tweets or speech to shut me up ... Chuckle


Did Trump say "Go forth and seize control of the Capitol Building and kill people"? No he did not. Did he incite the violence that followed and more importantly did he instruct his cronies to also do the same? Yes, absolutely he did.

I suspect you never watched any of BG's brilliant links but this one here which I have queued up for you just at the right place is all the evidence you will need. There is no doubt he is guilty as are his cronies of inciting what happened next. Your glorious leader is now a Terrorist leader.

https://youtu.be/YVDJqipoohc?t=212
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Posted: 13 January 2021 3:37 PM
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Birdbrain - 2021-01-13 2:15 PM

Brian Kirby - 2021-01-13 1:26 PM

Birdbrain - 2021-01-13 1:08 PM..................... cant think why

And that, precisely, is the problem. You've invested so much personal kudos in your false God, you don't want to see.

You really need to sit down calmly, open your eyes, and read that transcript with an open mind - after you answer for yourself these questions.
How did all those people come to be in Washington at the same time? Divine intervention, or because someone got them there?
What was the issue that got them there?
Why did some brings weapons, including guns?
What was their expectation in travelling to Washington?
Look at the news interviews of the attendees. Were they in reflective mood, or angry and excited?
What were they angry about?

Then read the speech. It is a clear case of first assemble rent-a-mob on a false premise, then wind them up, then just fade away and leave them to it, and then feign innocence.

And you can't see it because Trump didn't actually say "now go down to the Capitol and trash it".

That is the thinnest and most transparently inadequate defence conceivable. The sort of defence a child might try when confronted with some misdemeanour that only they could possibly have committed. Only in this case it came from a President of the United States. Truly, there are none so blind as those who will not see!


Now I have done as you say and attempted to answer the questions you list ...

You haven't attempted to answer any at all.
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Posted: 13 January 2021 3:51 PM
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Barryd999 - 2021-01-13 2:23 PM

Birdbrain - 2021-01-13 6:10 AM

Still nothing ... Not a god damn thing to show where POTUS Trump incited violence ... Nothing from the sisters ... You would think they would gladly point out the hatey bits of his tweets or speech to shut me up ... Chuckle


Did Trump say "Go forth and seize control of the Capitol Building and kill people"? No he did not. Did he incite the violence that followed and more importantly did he instruct his cronies to also do the same? Yes, absolutely he did.

I suspect you never watched any of BG's brilliant links but this one here which I have queued up for you just at the right place is all the evidence you will need. There is no doubt he is guilty as are his cronies of inciting what happened next. Your glorious leader is now a Terrorist leader.

https://youtu.be/YVDJqipoohc?t=212

Klepper is brilliant and shows Trump supporters for what they are but they're so thick they can't even see themselves how daft they are. They've all been brainwashed by a snake oil salesman.....even non-Americans. I expect they will be off on more killing sprees before the 20th, waving their flags, chanting "USA", and singing the anthem between killing off more of their fellow Americans.
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Posted: 13 January 2021 3:53 PM
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There appears to be rare unanimity of opinion on here that you, Birdbrain, are showing your foolish side and embarrassing yourself. May I suggest that Dennis Healey’s Rule of Holes applies and so you should go away for a while and reflect on things.
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Posted: 13 January 2021 4:22 PM
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.....and disappear down one.......
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Posted: 13 January 2021 4:54 PM
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StuartO - 2021-01-13 3:53 PM

There appears to be rare unanimity of opinion on here that you, Birdbrain, are showing your foolish side and embarrassing yourself. May I suggest that Dennis Healey’s Rule of Holes applies and so you should go away for a while and reflect on things.


If asking for proof is embarrassing myself then I am totally at ease with that and I stopped caring long ago what the folk on here think of me ... Lets be honest and honesty is something you lot on here dont normally do, all you POTUS Trump haters obviously hate him regardless of what he says and whatever he says because of that blinkered hate you will twist and turn and alter it to suit your purpose ... Now I still have yet to see on here anything to back up all your whinging, screeching, Hollywood claims regarding this issue and calling me names and telling me to go away wont stop me asking and I thought you were better than that Stuart ... Surely one of you can show a Trump hating MSM clip somewhere that shows exactly what you lot find so difficult to put down in words
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Posted: 13 January 2021 5:21 PM
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.....read my lips......
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Posted: 13 January 2021 5:42 PM
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There appears to be rare unanimity of opinion on here that you, Birdbrain, are showing your foolish side and embarrassing yourself. May I suggest that Dennis Healey’s Rule of Holes applies and so you should go away for a while and reflect on things.


If asking for proof is embarrassing myself then I am totally at ease with that and I stopped caring long ago what the folk on here think of me ... Lets be honest and honesty is something you lot on here dont normally do, all you POTUS Trump haters obviously hate him regardless of what he says and whatever he says because of that blinkered hate you will twist and turn and alter it to suit your purpose ... Now I still have yet to see on here anything to back up all your whinging, screeching, Hollywood claims regarding this issue and calling me names and telling me to go away wont stop me asking and I thought you were better than that Stuart ... Surely one of you can show a Trump hating MSM clip somewhere that shows exactly what you lot find so difficult to put down in words


There is a point, when you are dealing with someone who displays a closed mind, that you give up tryng and think to yourself ..................
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Posted: 13 January 2021 6:22 PM
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ITV screened a documentary last night "Storming The Capitol: The Inside Story". I recorded it and watched this morning. The only TV news crew to get inside and escape relatively unscathed unlike an AP news crew had their camera equipment smashed up. Maybe Trumps terrorists decided the AP crew were Satanists and Paedos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJiSmVktty4&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=ITVNewsCatchup
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Posted: 13 January 2021 7:01 PM
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All that time and money trying to keep Muslims out and the Wall keeping god knows who out and its all home grown.
Lordy my bum.
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Posted: 13 January 2021 7:11 PM
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Birdbrain - 2021-01-13 2:15 PM..................................
Now I have done as you say and attempted to answer the questions you list ... and cant for the life in me answer them or see the incitement ..............................so could you put your expertise to good use on this matter and please, please, please post up where the incitement is in the speech..

No Antony, I'm sorry to disappoint, but I have to admit defeat - because to me the answer lies in the field of psychiatry, and I am not a psychiatrist.

Two concepts I can sort of understand, which seem to offer some explanation, are "Confirmation bias" and "Cognitive dissonance".

Confirmation bias is defined as "the tendency of people to favour information that confirms their existing beliefs or hypotheses". It "happens when a person gives more weight to evidence that confirms their beliefs, and undervalues evidence that could disprove it. People display this bias when they gather or recall information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs."

Cognitive dissonance arose from "an observation study of a cult which believed that the earth was going to be destroyed by a flood, and what happened to its members — particularly the really committed ones who had given up their homes and jobs to work for the cult — when the flood did not happen. While fringe members were more inclined to recognize that they had made fools of themselves and to "put it down to experience," committed members were more likely to re-interpret the evidence to show that they were right all along (the earth was not destroyed because of the faithfulness of the cult members).

The only response I can give to your question is that the answers seem to me to lie somewhere within these realms. That is all I can say, because that is the only explanation which appears to explain why you cannot see what I, and it seems several others, see as starkly, staringly, obvious.
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Posted: 13 January 2021 7:23 PM
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Trump Jr now under investigation in DC

https://www.pix11.com/news/national-news/donald-trump-jr-under-investigation-in-dc-hakeem-jeffries-says
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Posted: 13 January 2021 7:46 PM
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Page 8 of this thread and not one of the sisters has shown anything other than their pure hatred to back up their claims ... Wow
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Birdbrain - 2021-01-13 7:46 PM

Page 8 of this thread and not one of the sisters has shown anything other than their pure hatred to back up their claims ... Wow


What a hooooot....got your eyes open yet ?
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Posted: 13 January 2021 8:02 PM
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Page 8 of this thread and not one of the sisters has shown anything other than their pure hatred to back up their claims ... Wow


What a hooooot....got your eyes open yet ?


My eyes are open thanks ... Still looking and waiting after 8 pages for one single bit of evidence ??? ... No point getting you all dizzy and asking to provide it though ... Given your intelligence levels ya prolly dont know who Trump is ... Go back to sleep princess
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Posted: 13 January 2021 8:27 PM
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Twitter has now locked Rep. Lauren Boeberts account. Boebert, a QAnon freak had live tweeted Nancy Pelosi's location in the Capitol building during the invasion.

https://www.rawstory.com/lauren-boebert-twitter-locked/

https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1349433155720196096
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Posted: 13 January 2021 9:38 PM
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Impeached......for the SECOND time. So he goes with that on his record as the only US President in history to be impeached twice. Ten Reps voted to impeach.....obviously there are some with a conscience.

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-impeachment-live-house-of-representatives-hearing-second-case-against-outgoing-president-12186819
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Posted: 13 January 2021 9:41 PM
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Birdbrain - 2021-01-13 8:02 PM

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Birdbrain - 2021-01-13 7:46 PM

Page 8 of this thread and not one of the sisters has shown anything other than their pure hatred to back up their claims ... Wow


What a hooooot....got your eyes open yet ?


My eyes are open thanks ... Still looking and waiting after 8 pages for one single bit of evidence ??? ... No point getting you all dizzy and asking to provide it though ... Given your intelligence levels ya prolly dont know who Trump is ... Go back to sleep princess


Did you not watch the link I cued up for you? Trump, Giuliani and Trump Jr all inciting the crowd to violence. Everyone around the world has seen it and it would appear that the vast majority agree, it was incitement. What happens next I guess will depend on the judicial process in America. With any luck they will all get thrown in jail. Either way if you cannot see whats been put in front of you as clear evidence of incitement that led to a Terrorist attack on the heart of democracy then you are in denial.

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Ten Reps voted to impeach.....obviously there are some with a conscience.





If I were a Republican and my career - and possibly even my life - was at stake- I'm not sure how I would have voted.


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Posted: 13 January 2021 11:07 PM
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Ten Reps voted to impeach.....obviously there are some with a conscience.





If I were a Republican and my career - and possibly even my life - was at stake- I'm not sure how I would have voted.



It's a very volatile and dangerous situation which has been ignited by Trump with Giuliani and Trump Jr acting as his little echoes. That Trump showed zero remorse over the insurrection but instead went on to gaslight the gullible and blame shift to Pelosi and Schumer, infuriated many Reps.

Security fencing and barrier has gone up all round Mike Pences house and troops are already inside the Capitol building. As someone pointed out, the country isn't under threat of attack from a foreign force but it's own citizens.

https://twitter.com/ReedReports/status/1349326874573463555

https://twitter.com/KateBennett_DC/status/1349328779534082050
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Posted: 13 January 2021 11:23 PM
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Bulletguy - 2021-01-13 9:38 PM

Ten Reps voted to impeach.....obviously there are some with a conscience.





If I were a Republican and my career - and possibly even my life - was at stake- I'm not sure how I would have voted.



It's a very volatile and dangerous situation which has been ignited by Trump with Giuliani and Trump Jr acting as his little echoes. That Trump showed zero remorse over the insurrection but instead went on to gaslight the gullible and blame shift to Pelosi and Schumer, infuriated many Reps.

Security fencing and barrier has gone up all round Mike Pences house and troops are already inside the Capitol building. As someone pointed out, the country isn't under threat of attack from a foreign force but it's own citizens.

https://twitter.com/ReedReports/status/1349326874573463555

https://twitter.com/KateBennett_DC/status/1349328779534082050


I watched the half hour ITV report you posted earlier just now. Storming the Capitol. Its insane. Trump has a lot to answer for. This is radicalisation in its most dangerous form. Trump has become no better than those Terrorist leaders around the world that the west declared war on. Its simply shocking that it has come to this but not surprising. He has ensured with this radicalisation and his ridiculous fraud campaign that his legacy will tear the country apart. This is what you get when you elect extremists. I do not envy Biden and Harris trying to put their country back together.
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Posted: 14 January 2021 6:12 AM
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Barryd999 - 2021-01-13 9:41 PM

Birdbrain - 2021-01-13 8:02 PM

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Birdbrain - 2021-01-13 7:46 PM

Page 8 of this thread and not one of the sisters has shown anything other than their pure hatred to back up their claims ... Wow


What a hooooot....got your eyes open yet ?


My eyes are open thanks ... Still looking and waiting after 8 pages for one single bit of evidence ??? ... No point getting you all dizzy and asking to provide it though ... Given your intelligence levels ya prolly dont know who Trump is ... Go back to sleep princess


Did you not watch the link I cued up for you? Trump, Giuliani and Trump Jr all inciting the crowd to violence. Everyone around the world has seen it and it would appear that the vast majority agree, it was incitement. What happens next I guess will depend on the judicial process in America. With any luck they will all get thrown in jail. Either way if you cannot see whats been put in front of you as clear evidence of incitement that led to a Terrorist attack on the heart of democracy then you are in denial.


Yes ... What part exactly of the link are you on about ??? ... Your hypocrisy is unbelievable ... "I dont give a toss about America" when its blatantly obvious you do, well you give a toss about one American ... You condemn others for supposedly inciting violence without showing any proof to back up the claim while finding UK thuggery, violence and criminality "funny" and Union Flag burning is a "photo opportunity" ... Keep on "not giving a toss" Barry

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Given the sisters on here are all mainly rabid Corbynites and to be fair we do have some anti-Semites n'all do the girls believe like many do that the sharp increase in anti-Semitism and the rise of attacks on Jews in the UK while Jeremy Corbyn was leader of a fairly open anti-Semitic party was partly or all down to him ??? ... I think I know the answer already but many others do blame him and if him and his party is to blame then surely they incited hatred and incited violence, something Jeremy acknowledged through his disgraceful response to the report and something Sure Queer Stammer acknowledges with his speech about not wanting the likes of Barry in the party anymore ???
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Birdbrain - 2021-01-14 7:02 AM

Given the sisters on here are all mainly rabid Corbynites and to be fair we do have some anti-Semites n'all do the girls believe like many do that the sharp increase in anti-Semitism and the rise of attacks on Jews in the UK while Jeremy Corbyn was leader of a fairly open anti-Semitic party was partly or all down to him ??? ... I think I know the answer already but many others do blame him and if him and his party is to blame then surely they incited hatred and incited violence, something Jeremy acknowledged through his disgraceful response to the report and something Sure Queer Stammer acknowledges with his speech about not wanting the likes of Barry in the party anymore ???


It was all just an illusion to smear Labour and Corbyn which i have to say I'm surprised you can even see given your (note) history. There are no attacks, there is no violence, it's just a needy group wanting attention.
Now on to a much more important subject.The Uk is one of the worlds biggest importers of Chinese Honey which is basically completely sugar syrup. Don't buy it.
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Birdbrain - 2021-01-14 7:02 AM

Given the sisters on here are all mainly rabid Corbynites and to be fair we do have some anti-Semites n'all do the girls believe like many do that the sharp increase in anti-Semitism and the rise of attacks on Jews in the UK while Jeremy Corbyn was leader of a fairly open anti-Semitic party was partly or all down to him ??? ... I think I know the answer already but many others do blame him and if him and his party is to blame then surely they incited hatred and incited violence, something Jeremy acknowledged through his disgraceful response to the report and something Sure Queer Stammer acknowledges with his speech about not wanting the likes of Barry in the party anymore ???


Here you go again trying to weaponise antisemitism.

Earlier in this thread you said this image was photoshopped, care to admit that you have been mistakenly shouting "fake news " ?

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1349363525509111808?s=19

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Birdbrain - 2021-01-14 7:02 AM

Queer Stammer


I have listened to Keir Starmer for hours and never heard him stammer. He wouldn't have done so well as a barrister if he did.
Wheras BoJo stammers all the time.
So how do you expect people to know who you are talking about?
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What a surprise ... The sisters see it differently ... Chuckle
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